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Erik Finnegan
Gallente
Polytechnique Gallenteenne
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Posted - 2011.07.02 01:32:00 -
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Edited by: Erik Finnegan on 02/07/2011 01:32:35
I think you can say over and over again that the fact the CSM is bound by an NDA does not mean that they are not representing player opinion right. The are the NGO towards CCP. CCP cannot talk to players, so they are obviously happy to invite the CSM. Flying the CSM to Iceland on short notice is really not for fun.
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Soden Rah
Gallente
EVE University
Ivy League
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Posted - 2011.07.02 01:32:00 -
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Edited by: Soden Rah on 02/07/2011 01:34:43
ABSOLUTELY NOT!!!
CQ upgrades for AUR is totally absolutely wrong!!!
It's selling immersion for real cash. its unacceptable!!!
I will not stay if that happens...
I HAVE cancelled, I gave them a reason why. I am not re subbing unless they get this right.
Please CSM members realise that for RP players 'vanity' items are important for immersion and if they are to be AUR items that breaks immersion which removes the point...
Please talk about this this is not NDA stuff...
EDIT:
NO NO NO
I won't spend real money on vanity items which means I lose immersion...
So I can't play!
Also any MT breaks the player market!!!
Are ANY CSM members Role Players??
can you please address this!!!
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AkJon Ferguson
JC Ferguson and Son Ltd
Ferguson Alliance
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Posted - 2011.07.02 01:33:00 -
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Breaking News: If eventually everybody else leaves and there is no more EVE, DJ Duckaduck will quit!
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Kerrisone
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Posted - 2011.07.02 01:33:00 -
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 Originally by: Soden Rah
I didn't catch who said it but...
You say the soft voice doesn't get heard...
Those of us who were giving test server feedback were yelling at ccp.
are you saying CCP is incapable of responding to those giving test server feedback?
I mean this is something I said to ccp shortly before release...
linky
"EDIT: oh and I am obliged to say....
Going into Hanger view on docking instead of CQ still not available...
When we get to patch day,
and you still haven't fixed this,
The mac client still doesn't work,
and half your customers get borked every time they dock,
the forums explode in a flame war,
and you have to roll-back before finally installing the option to load CQ...
DON'T say we didn't warn you..."
Unfortunately it wasn't enough people for CCP to care, as they are used to ignoring good constructive feedback and then when people yell they still ignore it. Perfect examples the CC and the 'new' forums people tested them and yelled about the shortcomings CCP didn't care.
Only when a mass uprising swells up do they look at it and think 'oh we better deal with this' not 'oh maybe what they are saying is valid' or 'we should consider their thoughts' just 'we need to deal with this' read 'spin'/damage control.
So unless there is a fundamental change in CCP after this, doubtful, we'll continue to see CCP's SOP; push out crap ignoring testing feedback/bugs/etc or just work on them after releasing an inferior product/feature. Some things will get fixed but the rest of the issues are 'working as intended'. That or many more people will have to test and rage on a continuing basis for CCP's poor QA/development process.
Originally by: Ghoest
Ill watch what you do not what you say.
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Adunh Slavy
Ammatar Trade Syndicate
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Posted - 2011.07.02 01:34:00 -
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Did the CSM get to talk to Dr E in relation to all of this? If so, will anything of interst to be forthcoming, such as their background thinking?
My faith in CCP will return SoonÖ
We'll watch what you do not what you say.
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HeIIfire11
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Posted - 2011.07.02 01:34:00 -
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Voting with your wallet is not the end of the world..you can always resub after the point was made. If a bunch of players do it..they will react.
This is the only way to vote.
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jackaloped
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Posted - 2011.07.02 01:35:00 -
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Could you please indicate what specific questions can't be answered due to nda that would be helpful. I guess my question couldn't.
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AkJon Ferguson
JC Ferguson and Son Ltd
Ferguson Alliance
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Posted - 2011.07.02 01:36:00 -
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We already have P2W, it's called PLEX. How 'bout we draw the line there?
Aurum is the problem.
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Soden Rah
Gallente
EVE University
Ivy League
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Posted - 2011.07.02 01:36:00 -
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No-one makes clothing.
how are we going to have clothing stores if clothes are not player made and cost more than real clothes?
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tika te
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Posted - 2011.07.02 01:37:00 -
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Edited by: tika te on 02/07/2011 01:37:15
question: why do i have to pay for a game feature (lets say paint job) with real money after paying the monthly sub. fee? isn't that doublebilling?
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Juan Sezole
The Colonial Forces
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Posted - 2011.07.02 01:38:00 -
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[01:37:17] Juan Sezole > [01:36:31] Juan Sezole > Question : Did CCP actually engage or was it "this is the situation deal with it"
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Neom Disaki
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Posted - 2011.07.02 01:38:00 -
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What about convenience or functionality (such as extra fitting slots), or other things that don't directly affect the market or combat, but that most people would feel should be included in their base subscription already?
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Yabba Addict
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Posted - 2011.07.02 01:39:00 -
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Would the CSM ever use resignation as a form of protest?
Subscription 2.0 û the future is TODAY!
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Soden Rah
Gallente
EVE University
Ivy League
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Posted - 2011.07.02 01:40:00 -
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yes but you guys are not against vanity MT's
are any of you role players????????
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AkJon Ferguson
JC Ferguson and Son Ltd
Ferguson Alliance
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Posted - 2011.07.02 01:40:00 -
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Why do you keep insisting it was an issue of 'misunderstanding' when the communication with CCP in the last 2 weeks has been clearer than it's been in the last 2.5 years (how long I've been playing)?
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Ashley Masaro
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Posted - 2011.07.02 01:41:00 -
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Did you talked about spaceships in space there too ? 
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Dirk Smacker
Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse
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Posted - 2011.07.02 01:41:00 -
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QUESTION: How about a PvE advantage for aurum that would do something like bump up a destroyed faction standing to a low negative number so the player can start building standing with them or access their hi sec space again?
Would that be acceptable to the panel?
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Tugrath Akers
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Posted - 2011.07.02 01:42:00 -
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What are the general thoughts on other 'out of nowhere' items, such as the recent Quafe Zero?
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Liva Daril
Caldari
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Posted - 2011.07.02 01:42:00 -
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Originally by: Soden Rah
No-one makes clothing.
how are we going to have clothing stores if clothes are not player made and cost more than real clothes?
The obvious answer would be to move clothes off the market and into player rent-able station "gaps".
Wee. \o/ 
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Doctor Garamond Trebuchet
Gallente
Center for Advanced Studies
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Posted - 2011.07.02 01:42:00 -
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Originally by: Soden Rah
yes but you guys are not against vanity MT's
are any of you role players????????
Good question, any of them RPers?
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"This is Monacleysmic Incarnage!" Ö - Nath Blazek
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AkJon Ferguson
JC Ferguson and Son Ltd
Ferguson Alliance
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Posted - 2011.07.02 01:43:00 -
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Does CSM is 'doing the best that we can do' mean the same as 'best that we can do with a hangover'?
Do you really think the goal is to 'keep EVE going on'?
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Starbuck Raider
Dead On Arrival Alliance
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Posted - 2011.07.02 01:44:00 -
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For the press conference: I think it's important, if they DO rule out direct MTs for non-vanity transactions, to get an absolute guarantee that non-vanity products will never be attached on somehow indirectly to MTs, i.e. it's critical to ensure their answer is not given with any potential future loopholes to begin to ease all of this understandable anger and distrust in the community.
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HeIIfire11
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Posted - 2011.07.02 01:44:00 -
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Someone said we want ccp to burn...
We don't want ccp to die..we just don't trust them anymore really. We have resolved these topics already and look what happend.
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Ralon Perin
Gallente
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Posted - 2011.07.02 01:44:00 -
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Did the CSM on the show tonight get the impression CCP is still into EVE Online for the "long term"?
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Juan Sezole
The Colonial Forces
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Posted - 2011.07.02 01:45:00 -
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[01:44:05] Juan Sezole > QUESTION : Are those who were wrongfully banned have their accounts reinstated???
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AkJon Ferguson
JC Ferguson and Son Ltd
Ferguson Alliance
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Posted - 2011.07.02 01:45:00 -
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There's this guy from 2005 on massively.
Straw man, meet everadio panel.
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Katya Constantine
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Posted - 2011.07.02 01:46:00 -
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Did they ever mention anything about CQ being optional ?
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Tak149
Caldari
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Posted - 2011.07.02 01:46:00 -
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What about these guys who called out CCP?
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Soden Rah
Gallente
EVE University
Ivy League
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Posted - 2011.07.02 01:47:00 -
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EVE is supposed to be a Massively Multiplayer online ROLE PLAYING Game...
Are any CSM members Role Players? and are any of you looking out for the concerns of Role Players?
Also can you please answer some of our/my questions?
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AkJon Ferguson
JC Ferguson and Son Ltd
Ferguson Alliance
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Posted - 2011.07.02 01:49:00 -
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Have you guys read the vanity fair article about people from iceland?
Is it true that walking down the street in Reyk is like a mosh pit?
Are there any other observations in the article you found illuminating?
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