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Tutskii
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Posted - 2011.07.03 01:03:00 -
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Edited by: Tutskii on 03/07/2011 01:11:27 Dear MD:
It's a new day, CCP's statement regarding the end of the world is out and I find myself not dissatisfied with it. Today, I bring you a 5plendid and exciting product for your consideration!
This 5plendid new bond has a number of differences from the traditional 1 month MD bond. It has set dates/periods for withdrawals, and rolls over every month (Except for interest which is also paid on a set date, at the end of the withdrawal period!). Other than that, it works much like a regular bond, and you may specify whether you wish to invest long term, or a single month, or any number of months when you make a reservation. If you need your isk? No big deal, as any murblybux bond, your isk will be in your wallet in (at most) 24 hours, however by requesting your isk outside of the withdrawal period you forfeit the interest for the period.
This format has a number of advantages both for me, and investors:
Set dates mean you always know when your interest is coming and gets rid of the need to manually track it down. It also means that unlike last school term, my bond is unlikely to land on important dates, midterms, etcetera, a big plus for me! Plus, realistically I have launched a bond per month since I started doing bonds. Liquidity is a problem that comes and goes, but there is no question about the value of credit at a reasonable interest for my expansion and needs.
Long term bond with regular withdrawals and interest payments means that if you need your money, it's there, if you don't, you don't have to worry about hunting for a new investment each month. It also means that I get to skip the overhead of starting a new bond thread (or extending bonds!) every month!
The TLDR:
-30 billion isk uncollateralized bond @4% interest -Interest and withdrawals processed on the second weekend of every month. -If bond is called by me, get 1 or 2% extra bonus interest! -Guaranteed 6% interest on the last month the bond runs! -New "Request a performance audit" system! -EVE profit and other updates on the first weekend of each month!
Other important conditions:
-It will probably be the case that during the school term (after September) I will have less free time, and thus, less need of ISK. In this case, bonds may be called, first by me by stating by how much I wish to cut down the size of the bond (which opens a window for anyone to step up and offer to cash out, if you cash out in this way, you get 2% bonus interest!). If sufficient investors dont volunteer to cash out their bonds, I may call back bonds in the order of "smaller first", in this case, the called bonds get 1% bonus interest in the period. This is equal to half a month of interest, and one quarter of a month of interest just for cashing your bond out! with this 5plendid framework you get to have your cake, and eat it too!
-If you cash out outside the withdrawal window, you forfeit the interest for the period. This is to encourage fund stability for myself. You may however sell your bond to other interested people and they will receive the interest as scheduled! This encourages a secondary market for murblybux. Only stipulation is that both parties inform me of any transactions in this thread. Remember to register your transactions! interest and withdrawals go to the registered bond holder!
-New bond issuance: It may be that I wish to increase the borrowed amount at some point in time. If I do, I will request a NAV check from VV first. New bonds are issued first come, first served, with the exception that murblybux platinum members (previous investors) get first dibs. This is my way of saying thanks for their trust!
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Tutskii
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Posted - 2011.07.03 01:03:00 -
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Edited by: Tutskii on 03/07/2011 01:16:23 -Innovative audit system: I will, as I traditionally have, publish Eve Profit screenshots every so often as well as a report of how I'm doing for your interest and amusement at the end of every month. You may, at your isk and convenience, request a performance audit from a trusted auditor who will receive my keys and cooperation. Limitations: My alts wont be public (except in the case of a scam), and what I trade, or where, or how will not be public, either!
FAQ:
Exactly how profitable are you and how do you intend to use the money?
Great question, my main intent is to expand my trading both in volume, and area as well as to expand into arbitrage and speculation. I have dabbled in both in the last month with great results.
Here is the June profit for Tutskii for June according to Eve Profit:
You'll notice its down a bit from the previous month! However, this is due to a pilot project I put in place of delegating sales to different characters as well as leveraging differences in prices across locations. This is the June profit of Tutskii, and a (undisclosed) trading alt:
It should be readily apparent that the new way of doing things is significantly more profitable than the old one, and (perhaps more importantly for me!) it takes less of my time. I intend to expand this alt arrangement to different locales, as well as invest in market speculation in which I was quite successful last month, as well. For this I a considering acquiring a number of things that should make my life easier, but in short, I will be using your money to station trade, and arbitrage trade, and I have a good track record with both.
What are the risks?
Generally speaking, the risks are that I die, or scam. I have a good record of doing neither, and should I die I have crafted a clearly written letter stating the instructions to repay my investors for my girlfriend, as well as the location of a number of files she should forward to the press about matters possibly related to my untimely demise, but completely unrelated to EVE. As for scamming? I don't believe in defrausing people, certainly not for monopoly money. Some people say that what you do here is completely unrelated to real life, but I think that if you can't even be trusted with monopoly money, then what can you be trusted with? Furthermore, I enjoy the community and my place in it, and the forum in general. I would be giving all of that up in order to scam, as well as access to credit, and the amount I'd scam is less than what I am verifiably capable of making in two months. That would be my case for saying that its unlikely to put it mildly!
As for the possibility of losing money? That's there but im experienced enough to keep my stock and risks to a controlled amount. I don't think its realistic to think I'd lose enough money to be unable to make my interest commitments or pay my investors back. As for burnout, I enjoy what I do and finding ways to do it more efficiently, should I get sick of it however, I can call the bond in which would guarantee investors a 6% return on the last month.
Collateral?
No collateral is offered, or will be offered. I have dabbled in production but I don't really have a BPO collection, and most my goods are stock for trading.
Who are your alts?
My alts will be kept confidential for the purposes of my peace of mind. I post with my main and have acquired some notoriety including people cargo scanning me and stating they do so because they have seen me in the forums. Although I try to make it unprofitable to Gank my logistics character/s I find no advantage in disclosing them. One caveat, Vaerah Varokha has my current API key for my accounts, and he is authorized to release my data in case of a scam for investor protection. This includes alts.
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Tutskii
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Posted - 2011.07.03 01:04:00 -
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Reserved
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Tutskii
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Posted - 2011.07.03 01:04:00 -
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reserved
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Tutskii
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Posted - 2011.07.03 01:05:00 -
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reserved
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Tutskii
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Posted - 2011.07.03 01:05:00 -
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Reserved
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Tutskii
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Posted - 2011.07.03 01:06:00 -
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Reserved.
Please don't post until im done.
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Tutskii
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Posted - 2011.07.03 01:07:00 -
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last one I promise
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Misty McGinnity
Mystify Trading Company
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Posted - 2011.07.03 01:11:00 -
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Edited by: Misty McGinnity on 03/07/2011 01:15:03 Reserved
Oops wrong character.
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Elise DarkStar
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Posted - 2011.07.03 01:49:00 -
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30b is a great cashout goal. Hopefully you haven't overreached though. Good luck with your scam.
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Liberty Eternal
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Posted - 2011.07.03 02:22:00 -
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Nice bond! - best of luck with your trading Tutskii 
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Tekota
legion industries ltd AAA Citizens
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Posted - 2011.07.03 03:08:00 -
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'Tis the duty of MD to ask such things so please don't take this as necessarily indicative of my thoughts at this stage but rather part of the traditional Ring Of Fire through which all must pass. Several times. Blindfolded etc.
Going from 2 bill to 30 bill in five months would seem.... on the rapid side, coupled with a tripling of bond size since your last offering... this could appear to be ambitious or suspicious dependent upon one's viewpoint. Any re-assurances you can offer or reasonings as to the large jump? How can you be sure that your operations can scale up to this extent whilst paying 1.2 bill per month interest?
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Tutskii
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Posted - 2011.07.03 03:21:00 -
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Edited by: Tutskii on 03/07/2011 03:24:12
Originally by: Tekota 'Tis the duty of MD to ask such things so please don't take this as necessarily indicative of my thoughts at this stage but rather part of the traditional Ring Of Fire through which all must pass. Several times. Blindfolded etc.
Going from 2 bill to 30 bill in five months would seem.... on the rapid side, coupled with a tripling of bond size since your last offering... this could appear to be ambitious or suspicious dependent upon one's viewpoint. Any re-assurances you can offer or reasonings as to the large jump? How can you be sure that your operations can scale up to this extent whilst paying 1.2 bill per month interest?
No worries!
Well, with two characters I am making an eve profit screenshot verifiable minimum of 17 billion, up from 9 billion in May with just Tutskii. The hope is that adding characters in different locations would bring similar (perhaps smaller) jumps. Originally I simply station traded in Jita and until June that is about all I did. Now, I am expanding to export products from there to other places.
This both requires less work, and makes more ISK. It does move a bit slower though, which means I have to acquire a lot of inventory first, which I then have to move.
At the moment, my non Tutskii character in charge of sales is sitting on 12 billion worth of sell orders, for instance. The idea is to expand that to different locales which will probably require about 10 bil worth of inventory each, plus a new character that can transport and sell for each locale, and the proper ships to do so.
The other reasoning is that I intend this to be a long term framework to use for perhaps as long as I play EVE as my source of funds and credit as opposed to monthly bonds. Since I am unlikely to have more time in the school term than I do now (summer and my summer job is giving me a lot of free time), and it is traditionally hard to increase the size of bonds, I am shooting at the maximum amount I think I may need.
Those would be the reasonings as well as those in the FAQ!
I don't think I should have a problem making enough to cover interest and profit going by my track record, but if things don't work out and expanding to other locales doesn't work, I can resell whatever I buy for the operation at minimum cost.
Oh, one more thing! When I had just started trading in locales other than Jita, I would use couriers and move Tutskii to update orders and set them up. This was time consuming and annoying, and my habit of moving stuff on Tutskii ended up with a suicide gank costing me some 600 million. Now I use self sufficient hauler/trader characters I can part wherever and who can modify and set up orders and have the proper standing.
Let me know if you have any further questions!
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Tekota
legion industries ltd AAA Citizens
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Posted - 2011.07.03 03:45:00 -
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That is actually a really good answer.
To quote the late great Columbo - just one more thing: Can I take it to assume that part of the initial capital will be therefore spent on char purchases and freighters?
To quote the late great Columbo again - just one more thing: Is Misty McGinnity one of your alts? Sorry not been paying attention to forums a while so I'm not sure if it's open knowledge - just that post above and then I notice Misty has been running bonds recently too. Again - kinda expecting this to be open knowledge or something as I really haven't paid any attention to forums for last few months.
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Tutskii
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Posted - 2011.07.03 03:53:00 -
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Originally by: Tekota That is actually a really good answer.
To quote the late great Columbo - just one more thing: Can I take it to assume that part of the initial capital will be therefore spent on char purchases and freighters?
To quote the late great Columbo again - just one more thing: Is Misty McGinnity one of your alts? Sorry not been paying attention to forums a while so I'm not sure if it's open knowledge - just that post above and then I notice Misty has been running bonds recently too. Again - kinda expecting this to be open knowledge or something as I really haven't paid any attention to forums for last few months.
Ideally yes, however, I prefer Orca's than freighters due to faster warp speed and ungankable for profit. You can also use a MWD to get in warp rather fast which means that I can update orders on one char while moving stock around with another. Most characters with Orca seem to have freighter trained as well, so that can be used if need be but personally I don't like flying freighters.
For the second question:
Misty was a troll alt that roamed the forums some time ago. Its original owner biomassed her and now mans a different troll called Jerry Peppridge (sp?). Someone else recreated Misty who has no relationship to the original one.
The "whoops wrong char" thing is a Meme, he does it in.. a lot of threads. I personally have no relationship with the old Misty or the new one, but I did fight the old Misty to the death in a condor when he hung out in SCC-Lounge before his biomass. It's my only PVP kill ever :D
Thanks!
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Tekota
legion industries ltd AAA Citizens
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Posted - 2011.07.03 04:08:00 -
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Yep, sorry about the Misty thing, started reading post history and first thoughts were "erm, feck if those two are connected I'm not going near this with a barge pole", then realised writing style completely different and saw (for the first time, or perhaps I just fell for it the first time, or the whole thing passed me by somehow) the meme to which you refer.
Rest sounds good, can empathise loathing freighter flying.
Now just need to figure out if I can do anything more useful than 4% with a bill or two. I'm going to have to have a little think - guessing you'd like to kick this thing off by next weekend?
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Brock Nelson
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Posted - 2011.07.03 04:12:00 -
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Originally by: Tutskii The "whoops wrong char" thing is a Meme, he does it in.. a lot of threads. I personally have no relationship with the old Misty or the new one
We're going to need an audit to verify your claim that Misty isn't your alt 
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Tutskii
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Posted - 2011.07.03 04:19:00 -
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Originally by: Tekota Yep, sorry about the Misty thing, started reading post history and first thoughts were "erm, feck if those two are connected I'm not going near this with a barge pole", then realised writing style completely different and saw (for the first time, or perhaps I just fell for it the first time, or the whole thing passed me by somehow) the meme to which you refer.
Rest sounds good, can empathise loathing freighter flying.
Now just need to figure out if I can do anything more useful than 4% with a bill or two. I'm going to have to have a little think - guessing you'd like to kick this thing off by next weekend?
No problem it is not really your responsibility to be up to date on random forum trivia!
Ideally, yes. Traditionally my bonds fill rather fast but I realize this is both a new framework and an ambitious investment goal.
Either way, thank you for considering murblybux, and should this 5plendid new bond fit your investment needs, make sure to post a reservation in the proper amount.
My bonds are first come first served (as I don't see a benefit in dealing with infinite people) but there is a minimum amount of investment of 100 million to keep things sane
-Tutskii
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Patrokolus
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Posted - 2011.07.03 05:27:00 -
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What are the minimum/maximum invest amounts? I did a quick read through and didn't see this information.
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Tutskii
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Posted - 2011.07.03 06:18:00 -
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Originally by: Patrokolus What are the minimum/maximum invest amounts? I did a quick read through and didn't see this information.
The minimum amount you may invest is 100 million ISK, Investment amounts must be in multiples of 100 million ISK, as well. This is to make things easy on everyone involved really.
There is no maximum invest amount. The bond is allocated on a first come, first served basis, and a single investor may cover the entirety of it if he so desires!
Thank you!
-Tutskii
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Patrokolus
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Posted - 2011.07.03 06:33:00 -
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You can put me down for 200m, will be in for atleast 2 months, we'll see how the bond goes :). Let me know when all investors are set up and it's time to send ISK.
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Tutskii
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Posted - 2011.07.03 06:37:00 -
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Originally by: Patrokolus You can put me down for 200m, will be in for atleast 2 months, we'll see how the bond goes :). Let me know when all investors are set up and it's time to send ISK.
Noted, thanks! An Evemail will be sent at that time.
-Tutskii
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Loraine Gess
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Posted - 2011.07.03 08:26:00 -
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Quote: a (undisclosed) trading alt:
red flags RED FLAGS ------------------------------- When I mitigate risks in business, they call me financially sound. When I mitigate risk in PVP, they call me a coward.
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Lederstrumpf
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Posted - 2011.07.03 08:47:00 -
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Tutskii, Misty McGinnity and Liberty Eternal posting right next to each other... good luck with that! :)
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Loraine Gess
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Posted - 2011.07.03 10:32:00 -
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Originally by: Lederstrumpf Tutskii, Misty McGinnity and Liberty Eternal posting right next to each other... good luck with that! :)
And then you realized they were all just different facets of cosmoray's mind. ------------------------------- When I mitigate risks in business, they call me financially sound. When I mitigate risk in PVP, they call me a coward.
I'm still rich, and they're still dead. |

Misty McGinnity
Mystify Trading Company
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Posted - 2011.07.03 10:41:00 -
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Originally by: Loraine Gess
Originally by: Lederstrumpf Tutskii, Misty McGinnity and Liberty Eternal posting right next to each other... good luck with that! :)
And then you realized they were all just different facets of cosmoray's mind.
Cosmoray? Paaahleeese, We're not that stupid.
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Hoshi
The Einherjar Corporation
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Posted - 2011.07.03 11:03:00 -
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Put me down for 1b long term. ---------------------------------------- "Memories are meant to fade. They're designed that way for a reason." |

Tutskii
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Posted - 2011.07.03 14:39:00 -
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Originally by: Hoshi Put me down for 1b long term.
Noted, thanks!
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Tjomek Dumber
Paramount Commerce
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Posted - 2011.07.03 17:35:00 -
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Can you put me down for 300 mill (long term)?
Tj, out.
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Tutskii
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Posted - 2011.07.03 18:03:00 -
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Originally by: Tjomek Dumber Can you put me down for 300 mill (long term)?
Tj, out.
Noted, thanks!
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Candy Oshea
Amarr Techfree Investment Group
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Posted - 2011.07.03 22:46:00 -
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Best of luck with your bond Tutskii. its quite large :o
Free Bump ___ iCandy Bonds
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TomHorn
Caldari Horn and Brothers
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Posted - 2011.07.03 23:46:00 -
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How much are you worth now tutskii you been trading quite a while now and very succesfully it seems.
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Tutskii
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Posted - 2011.07.04 01:27:00 -
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Originally by: Candy Oshea Best of luck with your bond Tutskii. its quite large :o
Free Bump
Thank you!
Originally by: TomHorn Edited by: TomHorn on 04/07/2011 00:08:12 How much are you worth now tutskii you been trading quite a while now and very succesfully it seems.
Found it i missed that somehow
your NAV is 48,579B Wallets 3,251B Assets 15.935B Sell orders 13,559B Escrow 15.834
Your at the stage now tutskii where you dont really need to come here for bonds you got your own isk. From the previous ones And with margin trading 5 isk can go along way.
But if you feel you do need more isk id advise using your 15.93bill in assests against 14bill bond otherwise i think you might struggle to fill this.
Those 15.93 in assets are trade goods I had available at that point in time. Some are contract items and the rest is trade stock that it doesn't make sense to put in the market all at once as it would start a race to the bottom as people try to unload items (I usually sell items in small, nonthreatening stacks for the psychological effects huge ones seem to have). The amount of assets I have ebbs and flows as they are sold. I don't have BPO's and I don't offer, or intend to offer collateral at this time, or any other time!
The main problem with Margin trading is that although it lets me do more with the isk in my wallet it doesn't affect the speed at which goods sell. You'll notice that my wallet at that point in time had only 3.25 billion. Right now it has about 7 billion but that amount will go down as buy orders fill. I have found the amount of liquid isk I have available limiting, hence bonds!
Thank you for your interest and questions!
-Tutskii
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Tutskii
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Posted - 2011.07.04 02:15:00 -
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Got a couple questions about this:
I forgot to mention in my FAQ this time that I can be reached in the signatures, scc-lounge, and Legit Trading channels in game, where I hang most days I'm on if you would like a direct chat. I have no problem with private conversations but I am not necessarily at my computer at a given time, so don't take it personally if I don't accept right away!
Whether you invest or not, I find those channels worth the time of any trader, so check them out next time you are on!
And of course, I always reply to evemails.
-Tutskii
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TomHorn
Caldari Horn and Brothers
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Posted - 2011.07.04 02:17:00 -
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Edited by: TomHorn on 04/07/2011 02:23:51 Edited by: TomHorn on 04/07/2011 02:18:10 On previous bond Tutskii when you were asking for isk you stated that you made the month before 17billion isk very nice.
Now youve obviously got more isk now than then , so now youve got the time again you should be able to make that kind of isk again a month ? without the need of anyone elses isk ?
Plus 30bill isk at 4% interest a month is 12bill isk interest a month.
Arent you just better off now using your own isk.
lol just ignore what ive written there about interest its absolute garbage.
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Tutskii
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Posted - 2011.07.04 02:28:00 -
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Originally by: TomHorn Edited by: TomHorn on 04/07/2011 02:18:10 On previous bond Tutskii when you were asking for isk you stated that you made the month before 17billion isk very nice.
Now youve obviously got more isk now than then , so now youve got the time again you should be able to make that kind of isk again a month ? without the need of anyone elses isk ?
Plus 30bill isk at 4% interest a month is 12bill isk interest a month.
Arent you just better off now using your own isk.
I'm hoping to! If you look at the Eve profit screenshots I have posted with each bond, I seem to be consistent in my ability to make isk. The point of the bond would be to make more than that, but even going further, to set an infrastructure for making more than that. For their part in assisting me with that, I pay interest to investors!
I think its a typo but 30 bil isk at 4% interest is 1.2 bil isk. It means that any amount over that which I made on that money a month would be profit. I have no problem with paying such an amount (and I believe there should be little question as to my ability to make my interest payments) in order to make even more.
Yes, if I use only my own isk, I would not have to give anything to anyone, but had I used solely my isk to grow up to this point, I would be nowhere near where I am, profitability, or NAV wise. Would I be ahead what I have paid in interest then? I don't think so because the money I have borrowed has gotten me to where I am! So I don't see interest as a burden, but rather a productive investment in my own growth.
A win-win scenario, which may be uncommon in Eve, but from my experience, certainly possible. I may be naive, but I am grateful to the people that have invested in me, and believed in me so far!
Either way, those are my thoughts on the matter!
-Tutskii
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Kat Orok Syiid
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Posted - 2011.07.04 04:16:00 -
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Sorry this is my first time doing something like this, but I'm a bit confused, how do I go through the procedure of giving you the money? And how do I get updated?
Should I just put down how much I wanna invest and then send the money to you?
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Tutskii
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Posted - 2011.07.04 05:13:00 -
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Originally by: Kat Orok Syiid Edited by: Kat Orok Syiid on 04/07/2011 05:02:39 Sorry this is my first time doing something like this, but I'm a bit confused, how do I go through the procedure of giving you the money? And how do I get updated?
Should I just put down how much I wanna invest and then send the money to you?
EDIT:
Never mind, I get it
Put me down for 500mil long term (does that mean I'll still get interest every month?)
It does, interest payments will be done in the second weekend of every month. This keeps them out of the way of my midterms, essays, and whatnot! Although I have been asked about compound interest, it is something I don't wish to offer since it would mean that my debt would continue to grow, possibly beyond my needs.
Thus, regardless of the term you wish to invest for, interest will be paid monthly!
The way it works is that isk is then pledged in the amount you wish to invest, this reserves that amount of isk in the bond for yourself. When it is full or otherwise primed to start the name of the thread will change to reflect it, a post will be made, and evemails will be sent, as well as one in the murblybux news mailing list (in game!).
Send your isk only at that time. This keeps things fair and uncomplicated by ensuring that i start counting everyone's interest from the same date.
I saw your edit, but I figure its better to post that information should anyone else wonder!
Your reservation has been noted, thank you!
-Tutskii
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Death ToU
Black Rebel Rifter Club
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Posted - 2011.07.04 09:57:00 -
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Put me down for 1Billion.
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Tutskii
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Posted - 2011.07.04 14:32:00 -
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Originally by: Death ToU Put me down for 1Billion.
Noted, Thanks!
-Tutskii
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Arancar Australis
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Posted - 2011.07.04 16:42:00 -
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Please reserve 500 Mill for me.
Thanks 
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Tutskii
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Posted - 2011.07.04 17:11:00 -
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Originally by: Arancar Australis Please reserve 500 Mill for me.
Thanks 
Noted, thanks!
-Tutskii
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Candy Oshea
Amarr Techfree Investment Group
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Posted - 2011.07.05 03:39:00 -
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4% is a great rate for this time of year, a realistic rate for such a high Bond amount.
Not sure why players are not filling this one, its probably because Tutskii uses numbers instead of letters?? '5plendid'  ___ iCandy Bonds
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Tutskii
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Posted - 2011.07.05 04:04:00 -
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Originally by: Candy Oshea 4% is a great rate for this time of year, a realistic rate for such a high Bond amount.
Not sure why players are not filling this one, its probably because Tutskii uses numbers instead of letters?? '5plendid' 
Thanks!
I'm not worried, I have received plenty of evemail inquiries about this or that. Careful consideration should be put, especially since its more of a long term type thing, but it could also be that with the protests and all that had been going on, plus the different framework, its simply a bad time.
As for the numbers? I think it gives me a bit more personality and differentiation and it's fun to come up with the words for each bond. a 5plendid name for a 5plendid new bond!
Thank you!
-Tutskii
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Hacklespur Harrowhound
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Posted - 2011.07.05 08:42:00 -
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Please put me down for 1Bil, long term.
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Tjomek Dumber
Paramount Commerce
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Posted - 2011.07.05 14:52:00 -
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Tutskii, is it possible for me to update to 500 mill (up from 300) thank you.
Tj, out.
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Ambrani
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Posted - 2011.07.05 14:57:00 -
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I'd like to reserve 2bn
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Tutskii
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Posted - 2011.07.05 15:36:00 -
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Edited by: Tutskii on 05/07/2011 15:36:47
Originally by: Hacklespur Harrowhound Edited by: Hacklespur Harrowhound on 05/07/2011 09:03:01 Retracted.
Titans4U/5plendid
5 is bigger than 4. Think I'll just lurk this one. No collateral kinda seals the deal.
Don't read too much into my naming convention, my every bond since the first has had a number as part of its name. If you wonder about the number 4, you can also consider the 1 month extension of my previous 10 billion bond, murblybux N3XT! as murblybux 4!
But my names, like most american names, are arbitrary (If witty!). There is a relevant quote about this in Pulp Fiction (Re: American Names)
Either way, thank you for your post and interest!
Originally by: Tjomek Dumber Tutskii, is it possible for me to update to 500 mill (up from 300) thank you.
Tj, out.
It certainly is!, noted.
Originally by: Ambrani Edited by: Ambrani on 05/07/2011 15:12:55 I'd like to reserve 2bn
Noted as well, thank you!
Reservations updated.
-Tutskii
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Tutskii
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Posted - 2011.07.06 05:10:00 -
[49]
After discussions with a number of potential investors I have determined that at this point in time, the interest I am offering is too small for this kind of venture.
It is in my best interest to get the smallest interest that I can, but at the same time, it is also my interest to offer my investors a good, or even great deal.
With those considerations in mind I'm pleased to announce that the interest will be revised for all current, and future investors from 4% every 30 days, to a more 5plendid 5% every 30 days!
Thank you for considering murblybux!
-Tutskii
Oh and by the way, the murblybux 5plendid! bond is open for reservations! |

Florestan Bronstein
draketrain
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Posted - 2011.07.06 07:40:00 -
[50]
Originally by: Tekota Yep, sorry about the Misty thing, started reading post history and first thoughts were "erm, feck if those two are connected I'm not going near this with a barge pole", then realised writing style completely different and saw (for the first time, or perhaps I just fell for it the first time, or the whole thing passed me by somehow) the meme to which you refer.
Note that this Misty is a different character (even race is different) than the original Misty (same name) that was biomassed.
Not sure if eve-search reflects this.
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Kat Orok Syiid
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Posted - 2011.07.06 08:45:00 -
[51]
Woah 5%?
Up me to 700mil (from 500)
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Misty McGinnity
Mystify Trading Company
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Posted - 2011.07.06 08:53:00 -
[52]
Originally by: Florestan Bronstein
Originally by: Tekota Yep, sorry about the Misty thing, started reading post history and first thoughts were "erm, feck if those two are connected I'm not going near this with a barge pole", then realised writing style completely different and saw (for the first time, or perhaps I just fell for it the first time, or the whole thing passed me by somehow) the meme to which you refer.
Note that this Misty is a different character (even race is different) than the original Misty (same name) that was biomassed.
Not sure if eve-search reflects this.
You can find out some details on my reincarnation here :
http://eve-search.com/thread/1496326/page/1#17
I've heard that Jerry Pepridge is pretty butthurt about it.
Oh and its actually him that doesn't have an Iphone.
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Ellarya Sand
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Posted - 2011.07.06 14:24:00 -
[53]
Reserve 500m for me long term please
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Tutskii
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Posted - 2011.07.06 16:33:00 -
[54]
Originally by: Kat Orok Syiid Woah 5%?
Up me to 700mil (from 500)
Originally by: Ellarya Sand Reserve 500m for me long term please
Reservations updated, thank you for considering murblybux!
Oh and by the way, the murblybux 5plendid! bond is open for reservations! |

Ambrani
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Posted - 2011.07.07 03:03:00 -
[55]
I'd like to see this launch in the foreseeable future 
Free Bump
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wodahs hunt
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Posted - 2011.07.07 05:40:00 -
[56]
Reserve me 500m
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Tutskii
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Posted - 2011.07.07 16:53:00 -
[57]
Originally by: wodahs hunt Reserve me 500m
Noted, thanks!
Oh and by the way, the murblybux 5plendid! bond is open for reservations! |

Dethmourne Silvermane
Gallente Saiph Industries SRS.
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Posted - 2011.07.07 17:45:00 -
[58]
I'd like to reserve 500m
My third-party service My loan service My Character Purchase Program |

Misaki Orahime
Caldari Science and Trade Institute
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Posted - 2011.07.07 19:25:00 -
[59]
I would like to reserve 1b.
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Roguehalo
Caldari Roguehalo Ship Brokers
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Posted - 2011.07.07 20:28:00 -
[60]
I'll reserve 10b. let me know when and to whom i send the isk please
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Zagam
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Posted - 2011.07.07 20:49:00 -
[61]
I would like to reserve 500m (my first EVE investment!). ---------.oOo.---------- Chaos, Madness, and Destruction. My work here is done. |

Celandra Umi
Caldari Security Through Obscurity
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Posted - 2011.07.07 21:10:00 -
[62]
If there's still availability, put me down for 2b. Let me know when and where to send the money.
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Tutskii
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Posted - 2011.07.08 08:35:00 -
[63]
Thank you all for your reservations, updated investor list as well as bond. Should be launching this weekend!
As of now, there is 9.1 billion free.
Thank you for choosing murblybux, and I hope your experience will be a pleasant and profitable one!
-Tutskii |

Gnlarck
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Posted - 2011.07.08 11:10:00 -
[64]
Can you put me down for 250 mil (long term)? I'll be watching the thread for when to send isk. |

Strrog
Caldari Zero Excavations
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Posted - 2011.07.08 12:39:00 -
[65]
Edited by: Strrog on 08/07/2011 12:45:55 Edited by: Strrog on 08/07/2011 12:39:53 Count me in for 1.3 bill (lol last scraps)long term.
When to send isk?
PS I think I was late for other bond with ya finally got to you :P. |

Tutskii
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Posted - 2011.07.08 18:51:00 -
[66]
Edited by: Tutskii on 08/07/2011 18:52:01
Originally by: Strrog Edited by: Strrog on 08/07/2011 12:45:55 Edited by: Strrog on 08/07/2011 12:39:53 Count me in for 1.3 bill (lol last scraps)long term.
When to send isk?
PS I think I was late for other bond with ya finally got to you :P.
Noted, yeah you were a little bit so, my friend!, but you are in time for this one!
Originally by: Gnlarck Can you put me down for 250 mil (long term)? I'll be watching the thread for when to send isk.
I'm sorry, investments must be in multiples of 100 million isk to keep things sane. I can put you down for 200 million if you like, however!
I'll send an evemail to all the investors as well as post in the murbyblux news mailing list when the bond is ready to start, should be be sometime this weekend.
Thank you to everyone so far!
-Tutskii |

Gnlarck
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Posted - 2011.07.08 19:14:00 -
[67]
Put me down for 300 million long term then! Thanks  |

Mallak Azaria
Three 6 MaFiA
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Posted - 2011.07.09 01:34:00 -
[68]
I'll jump in for 500mil long term. |

Khanid Voltar
Night's Dawn Investment Fund
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Posted - 2011.07.09 14:40:00 -
[69]
I'd like to reserve the final 7B
KV |

Dethmourne Silvermane
Gallente Saiph Industries SRS.
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Posted - 2011.07.09 14:58:00 -
[70]
Darnit KV, I was going to invest more once I knew I'd have the money..
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Khanid Voltar
Night's Dawn Investment Fund
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Posted - 2011.07.09 15:42:00 -
[71]
can drop it down to 5B if u like Deth? |

Uskas
Minmatar Divine Assembly of Forgotten Travelers Apoapsis Multiversal Consortium
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Posted - 2011.07.09 16:50:00 -
[72]
Am interested in investing 500m long term if any space left (not sure if fully reserved for last couple of posters)? |

Dethmourne Silvermane
Gallente Saiph Industries SRS.
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Posted - 2011.07.09 18:12:00 -
[73]
Nah Khanid, you got first dibs on that 7b, since you posted. I'll just use the spare cash I'm about to have to pay off some of my own debt (would rather dump it into 5% investments that I consider reliable, since I'm only paying 3-4%, but...) |

Tutskii
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Posted - 2011.07.10 01:10:00 -
[74]
Edited by: Tutskii on 10/07/2011 01:11:30 All reservations noted, Evemail will go out stating to send isk, as well as a post to the murblybux news mailing list.
But really, you may start sending isk now.
Interest will begin starting the 11th, Eve time.
Thank you for investing in murblybux!
(Edit: to make keeping track easier, please send me an Evemail stating when you've sent isk. A lot of investors this time). |

Tjomek Dumber
Paramount Commerce
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Posted - 2011.07.10 05:04:00 -
[75]
I was unsure if this was required or not, but meh. :p
Isk sent.
Tj, out. |

Arancar Australis
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Posted - 2011.07.10 06:50:00 -
[76]
Isk sent  |

Roguehalo
Caldari Roguehalo Ship Brokers
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Posted - 2011.07.10 07:10:00 -
[77]
isk sent |

Kat Orok Syiid
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Posted - 2011.07.10 08:53:00 -
[78]
Isk sent.. Like a couple of hours ago.
Guess I'll do it since everyone else is.. |

Ellarya Sand
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Posted - 2011.07.10 09:25:00 -
[79]
Isk sent  |

Strrog
Caldari Zero Excavations
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Posted - 2011.07.10 13:25:00 -
[80]
1.3 bill sent.
thank you |
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Misaki Orahime
Caldari Science and Trade Institute
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Posted - 2011.07.10 13:29:00 -
[81]
1b sent. |

Gnlarck
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Posted - 2011.07.10 13:46:00 -
[82]
ISK sent! =)
GN |

Patrokolus
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Posted - 2011.07.10 14:51:00 -
[83]
Sent! |

Zagam
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Posted - 2011.07.10 16:21:00 -
[84]
ISK sent! |

Ambrani
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Posted - 2011.07.10 17:27:00 -
[85]
Isk sent |

Patrokolus
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Posted - 2011.07.24 16:13:00 -
[86]
Update perhaps? I may have missed some on the mailing list since I just joined, but noticed this thread still says send isk...
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Tutskii
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Posted - 2011.07.24 17:08:00 -
[87]
Originally by: Patrokolus Update perhaps? I may have missed some on the mailing list since I just joined, but noticed this thread still says send isk...
My bad, fixed!
Update: The bond is underway, haven't really had any sort of problems or noteworthy occurrences other than a well deserved summer vacation!
The weather is fine, if rainy!
When we are older you'll understand its enough when I say so, and maybe some things are that simple. |

Tjomek Dumber
Paramount Commerce
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Posted - 2011.08.12 05:22:00 -
[88]
Everything still going 5plendid? :p It has been awkwardly quiet.
Tj, out.
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Jerry Pepridge
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Posted - 2011.08.12 05:34:00 -
[89]
Edited by: Jerry Pepridge on 12/08/2011 05:34:30
Originally by: Tjomek Dumber Everything still going 5plendid? :p It has been awkwardly quiet.
Tj, out.
How do i put this nicely.
you have been scammed out of your isk.
good day.
edit: wrong toon _________________________________________________
Misty McGinnity Doesn't have an iPhone. |

Tjomek Dumber
Paramount Commerce
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Posted - 2011.08.12 06:49:00 -
[90]
i do really enjoy your enthousiasm JP :) u r all over the place.
now get out, go find some lego to harras.
Tj, out.
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Zagam
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Posted - 2011.08.12 13:02:00 -
[91]
Originally by: Jerry Pepridge Edited by: Jerry Pepridge on 12/08/2011 05:34:30
Originally by: Tjomek Dumber Everything still going 5plendid? :p It has been awkwardly quiet.
Tj, out.
How do i put this nicely.
you have been scammed out of your isk.
good day.
edit: wrong toon
I would like to pledge 20b... wait...
Honestly tho, I'm interested to see an update on how the trading is going. :) ---------.oOo.---------- Chaos, Madness, and Destruction. My work here is done. |

Lauren Hellfury
Full Pocket Aggro
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Posted - 2011.08.12 13:19:00 -
[92]
Just hang in there champ! Interest is due this weekend (so over the next 2 days). You'll find out soon enough.
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Tjomek Dumber
Paramount Commerce
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Posted - 2011.08.12 13:32:00 -
[93]
profit and update report was due last week as stated here
Originally by: Tutskii -EVE profit and other updates on the first weekend of each month!
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Lauren Hellfury
Full Pocket Aggro
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Posted - 2011.08.12 15:00:00 -
[94]
Edited by: Lauren Hellfury on 12/08/2011 15:00:32
Originally by: Tutskii Edited by: Tutskii on 24/07/2011 17:08:14 The TLDR:
-30 billion isk uncollateralized bond @5% interest (edit: Interest has been increased from 4%) -Interest and withdrawals processed on the second weekend of every month. -If bond is called by me, get 1 or 2% extra bonus interest! -Guaranteed 6% interest on the last month the bond runs! -New "Request a performance audit" system! -EVE profit and other updates on the first weekend of each month! -murblybux news mailing list in game!
Second weekend according to the OP. (I bolded the important bit) But don't worry, I'm sure there is nothing that could possibly go wrong. Or are you really more concerned with the update report than your isk?
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Zagam
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Posted - 2011.08.12 15:08:00 -
[95]
Originally by: Lauren Hellfury Edited by: Lauren Hellfury on 12/08/2011 15:00:32
Originally by: Tutskii Edited by: Tutskii on 24/07/2011 17:08:14 The TLDR:
-30 billion isk uncollateralized bond @5% interest (edit: Interest has been increased from 4%) -Interest and withdrawals processed on the second weekend of every month. -If bond is called by me, get 1 or 2% extra bonus interest! -Guaranteed 6% interest on the last month the bond runs! -New "Request a performance audit" system! -EVE profit and other updates on the first weekend of each month! -murblybux news mailing list in game!
Second weekend according to the OP. (I bolded the important bit) But don't worry, I'm sure there is nothing that could possibly go wrong. Or are you really more concerned with the update report than your isk?
Honestly, I'm not concerned as much as I am curious. My market profits have taken a hit lately due to several overly aggressive traders (and a couple with absolutely no clue on how to trade properly), so I was curious how Tutskii is doing. ---------.oOo.---------- Chaos, Madness, and Destruction. My work here is done. |

OllieNorth
Gallente R-K Industries
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Posted - 2011.08.12 15:15:00 -
[96]
Tutskii has been awfully quiet lately. Another burnout/scam? Methinks yes!
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Tjomek Dumber
Paramount Commerce
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Posted - 2011.08.12 16:30:00 -
[97]
Originally by: Lauren Hellfury Edited by: Lauren Hellfury on 12/08/2011 15:00:32
Originally by: Tutskii Edited by: Tutskii on 24/07/2011 17:08:14 The TLDR:
-30 billion isk uncollateralized bond @5% interest (edit: Interest has been increased from 4%) -Interest and withdrawals processed on the second weekend of every month. -If bond is called by me, get 1 or 2% extra bonus interest! -Guaranteed 6% interest on the last month the bond runs! -New "Request a performance audit" system! -EVE profit and other updates on the first weekend of each month! -murblybux news mailing list in game!
Second weekend according to the OP. (I bolded the important bit) But don't worry, I'm sure there is nothing that could possibly go wrong. Or are you really more concerned with the update report than your isk?
i am not really concerned tbh, I was just interested in how he was doing. Curious to see if he is having better luck than me at trading this past mobth.
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Tjomek Dumber
Paramount Commerce
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Posted - 2011.08.15 18:45:00 -
[98]
I guess ill have to confront the fact that JP was right.
Tj, out.
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Zagam
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Posted - 2011.08.15 19:12:00 -
[99]
Originally by: Tjomek Dumber I guess ill have to confront the fact that JP was right.
Tj, out.
Yep, all the investors got burned, it looks like.
So does that mean now that I've been burned by an MD investment, I can consider myself an MD bittervet? ---------.oOo.---------- Chaos, Madness, and Destruction. My work here is done. |

RAW23
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Posted - 2011.08.15 19:31:00 -
[100]
Edited by: RAW23 on 15/08/2011 19:37:59 Steady on chaps. A couple of weeks ago he said he was going on holiday so he is probably just not back yet.
Edit - http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1553160&page=1#25 Although on second glance this could refer to uni holidays. In any case, it is probably worth bearing in mind.
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flakeys
The Great cornholio's Paper Tiger Coalition
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Posted - 2011.08.15 20:16:00 -
[101]
Originally by: RAW23 Edited by: RAW23 on 15/08/2011 19:37:59 Steady on chaps. A couple of weeks ago he said he was going on holiday so he is probably just not back yet.
Edit - http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1553160&page=1#25 Although on second glance this could refer to uni holidays. In any case, it is probably worth bearing in mind.
Had the same thing in mind tbh.Allthough anythings possible with burnouts blabla i am having a bit of a hard time seeing this as a scam just yet with the previous 5 payments being done.
Time will tell.
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Zagam
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Posted - 2011.08.15 21:05:00 -
[102]
Originally by: RAW23 Edited by: RAW23 on 15/08/2011 19:37:59 Steady on chaps. A couple of weeks ago he said he was going on holiday so he is probably just not back yet.
Edit - http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1553160&page=1#25 Although on second glance this could refer to uni holidays. In any case, it is probably worth bearing in mind.
Step 1: Remove foot from mouth. Step 2: Relax. Step 3: ??? Step 4: Resume random posting of nonsense. ---------.oOo.---------- Chaos, Madness, and Destruction. My work here is done. |

Jerry Pepridge
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Posted - 2011.08.16 01:51:00 -
[103]
Originally by: Tutskii
Reservations:
Patrokolus 0.2 billion Hoshi 1.0 billion Tjomek Dumber 0.5 billion Kat Orok Syiid 0.7 billion Death ToU 1.0 billion Arancar Australis 0.5 billion Ambrani 2.0 billion Ellarya Sand 0.5 billion wodahs hunt 0.5 billion Dethmourne Silvermane 0.5 billion Misaki Orahime 1.0 billion Roguehalo 10.0 billion Zagam 0.5 billion Celandra Umi 2.0 billion Strrog 1.3 billion Gnlarck 0.3 billion Mallak Azaria 0.5 billion Khanid Voltar 7.0 billion
Total: 30.0 billion
kind of funny that the most buttsore (Zagam) only has 500m in this.
would literally fall out of my chair if knanid "invest in errything" voltar gets pwned again _________________________________________________
Misty McGinnity Doesn't have an iPhone. |

Angsty Teenager
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Posted - 2011.08.16 03:51:00 -
[104]
I would literally fall out of my chair if Jerry "Duty" Pepridge
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Zagam
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Posted - 2011.08.16 12:52:00 -
[105]
Originally by: Jerry Pepridge
Originally by: Tutskii
Reservations:
Patrokolus 0.2 billion Hoshi 1.0 billion Tjomek Dumber 0.5 billion Kat Orok Syiid 0.7 billion Death ToU 1.0 billion Arancar Australis 0.5 billion Ambrani 2.0 billion Ellarya Sand 0.5 billion wodahs hunt 0.5 billion Dethmourne Silvermane 0.5 billion Misaki Orahime 1.0 billion Roguehalo 10.0 billion Zagam 0.5 billion Celandra Umi 2.0 billion Strrog 1.3 billion Gnlarck 0.3 billion Mallak Azaria 0.5 billion Khanid Voltar 7.0 billion
Total: 30.0 billion
kind of funny that the most buttsore (Zagam) only has 500m in this.
would literally fall out of my chair if knanid "invest in errything" voltar gets pwned again
I wouldn't consider myself buttsore, but rather concerned as to what my oney is doing as an investor. I'm also a VERY bad poster in the mornings before I've had caffeine. ---------.oOo.---------- Chaos, Madness, and Destruction. My work here is done. |

Gnlarck
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Posted - 2011.08.18 16:45:00 -
[106]
So...
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Caliph Muhammed
Caldari Caldari Naval Criminal Investigative Service
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Posted - 2011.08.19 00:26:00 -
[107]
Lets bump this back up top. Good reading.
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Jerry Pepridge
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Posted - 2011.08.19 00:35:00 -
[108]
Originally by: Gnlarck So...
You got scammed.
read the link in my signature, this one falls under "is he in an NPC corp" _________________________________________________
7 Easy steps |

Jerry Pepridge
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Posted - 2011.08.22 04:03:00 -
[109]
bumping for all the nerds who just got fleeced _________________________________________________
7 Easy steps |

Caliph Muhammed
Caldari Caldari Naval Criminal Investigative Service
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Posted - 2011.08.22 04:41:00 -
[110]
Edited by: Caliph Muhammed on 22/08/2011 04:41:23 Roguehalo took the 10 billion ISK sodomization of his assets.
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Singeabooty Raj
Marcabian 5th Invasion Fleet HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2011.08.22 07:18:00 -
[111]
Caliph you next dude. o/
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Candy Oshea
Amarr Techfree Investment Group
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Posted - 2011.08.26 05:12:00 -
[112]
is this a scam? or a burnout?
Tutskii.....  ___ iCandy Bonds
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Companion Qube
Minmatar Electron Conservation Inc SRS.
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Posted - 2011.08.26 06:35:00 -
[113]
Originally by: Candy Oshea is this a scam? or a burnout?
Tutskii..... 
I'm pretty sure it's burnout, he cancelled accounts in the wake of incarnagate and then it seems he lost interest in logging in. I'll ask what's up if I see him online, we used to talk often.
...they see me trollin', they hatin' ♥
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Caliph Muhammed
Caldari Caldari Naval Criminal Investigative Service
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Posted - 2011.08.29 16:00:00 -
[114]
Edited by: Caliph Muhammed on 29/08/2011 16:04:20
Notice Lauren Hellfury and Raw23 defending Tutskii? Here's a clue, if you burnout and quit the game holding other peoples assets, you are stealing!
Since those two seem sure it's just a mix up why don't they put their money where their mouth is and pay back the investors. Im sure you're confident Tutdogg will give you the money back when he comes back to EVE.
Or are you guys part of the scam?
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IceFyre S18
Zulu Labs Zulu People
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Posted - 2011.08.29 17:56:00 -
[115]
Calm down bro, they are not defending. Who knows what happened here. I hope it's not intended as scam, since people have taken a very huge and serious risk to invest in such low % without collateral.
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Claire Voyant
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Posted - 2011.08.29 19:21:00 -
[116]
Calm down everybody. His last post was over a month ago and he said he had just returned from a well deserved summer vacation, so I'm sure he's just taking another well deserved summer vacation. For those who say he has just burned-out, I ask you how a trader like Tutskii who can make billions trading PLEX in a falling market could possibly be burned out? The guy can pull isk out of his posterior! I'm sure he will be back with a perfectly reasonable explanation, like how CCP has been sending him coded messages in the ads on his login page that no one else but him can see.
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RAW23
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Posted - 2011.08.30 11:38:00 -
[117]
Edited by: RAW23 on 30/08/2011 11:42:14
Originally by: Caliph Muhammed Edited by: Caliph Muhammed on 29/08/2011 16:22:00
Notice Lauren Hellfury and Raw23 defending Tutskii? Here's a clue, if you burnout and quit the game holding other peoples assets, you are stealing!
Since those two seem sure it's just a mix up why don't they put their money where their mouth is and pay back the investors. Im sure they're confident Tutdogg will give them the money back when he comes back to EVE.
Or are you guys part of the scam?
Your responsible committment to the accurate flow of information remains commendable. I mean, it's not like you are happy to lie and deliberately misrepresent facts if you think it will help deter people from criticising your offerings, is it? Because that would make you a deceitful and untrustworthy individual of the sort I am sure you would warn people away from investing in.
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Caliph Muhammed
Caldari Caldari Naval Criminal Investigative Service
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Posted - 2011.08.30 16:33:00 -
[118]
Originally by: RAW23 Edited by: RAW23 on 30/08/2011 11:42:14
Originally by: Caliph Muhammed Edited by: Caliph Muhammed on 29/08/2011 16:22:00
Notice Lauren Hellfury and Raw23 defending Tutskii? Here's a clue, if you burnout and quit the game holding other peoples assets, you are stealing!
Since those two seem sure it's just a mix up why don't they put their money where their mouth is and pay back the investors. Im sure they're confident Tutdogg will give them the money back when he comes back to EVE.
Or are you guys part of the scam?
Your responsible committment to the accurate flow of information remains commendable. I mean, it's not like you are happy to lie and deliberately misrepresent facts if you think it will help deter people from criticising your offerings, is it? Because that would make you a deceitful and untrustworthy individual of the sort I am sure you would warn people away from investing in.
Stop lying, you're in on the scam and getting a kick-back while you play white knight on the forums.
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RAW23
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Posted - 2011.08.30 16:45:00 -
[119]
Originally by: Caliph Muhammed
Originally by: RAW23 Edited by: RAW23 on 30/08/2011 11:42:14
Originally by: Caliph Muhammed Edited by: Caliph Muhammed on 29/08/2011 16:22:00
Notice Lauren Hellfury and Raw23 defending Tutskii? Here's a clue, if you burnout and quit the game holding other peoples assets, you are stealing!
Since those two seem sure it's just a mix up why don't they put their money where their mouth is and pay back the investors. Im sure they're confident Tutdogg will give them the money back when he comes back to EVE.
Or are you guys part of the scam?
Your responsible committment to the accurate flow of information remains commendable. I mean, it's not like you are happy to lie and deliberately misrepresent facts if you think it will help deter people from criticising your offerings, is it? Because that would make you a deceitful and untrustworthy individual of the sort I am sure you would warn people away from investing in.
Stop lying, you're in on the scam and getting a kick-back while you play white knight on the forums.
I'm sure you have evidence for this claim (as I do for your threat to claim people are scammers if they criticise your offerings). Best share it.
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Caliph Muhammed
Caldari Caldari Naval Criminal Investigative Service
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Posted - 2011.08.30 16:51:00 -
[120]
The fact you troll every offering you can giving your weak ass insight but when a friend of yours runs off with 30 billion you're in the thread defending him. Proof enough for me.
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Lauren Hellfury
Full Pocket Aggro
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Posted - 2011.08.30 17:08:00 -
[121]
Another fine example of critical thinking..... Or something.
Feel free to quote the parts you think either one of us is defending Tutskii since his disappearance, I think you'll find it somewhat difficult. As for trolling every offering? You obviously failed to read the 20b offer from Todas whatchamacallum. Calling people out, now that's another matter.
Anyway, haven't you got some posts to report to the mod-squad? chop-chop
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RAW23
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Posted - 2011.08.30 17:12:00 -
[122]
Edited by: RAW23 on 30/08/2011 17:13:00
Originally by: Caliph Muhammed
As for the rules I can simply post [someone who criticised my offer is] a scammer and if you want proof contact me personally. Then I can point people to the [real life personal information] information I choose to provide. So there ya go. No rules are broken and i'm still going to make my point.
http://eve-search.com/thread/1523236/page/4#94
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Caliph Muhammed
Caldari Caldari Naval Criminal Investigative Service
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Posted - 2011.08.30 17:19:00 -
[123]
Edited by: Caliph Muhammed on 30/08/2011 17:22:00
Originally by: RAW23 Edited by: RAW23 on 30/08/2011 17:13:00
Originally by: Caliph Muhammed
As for the rules I can simply post [someone who criticised my offer is] a scammer and if you want proof contact me personally. Then I can point people to the [real life personal information] information I choose to provide. So there ya go. No rules are broken and i'm still going to make my point.
http://eve-search.com/thread/1523236/page/4#94
Look at the scammers scramble for damage control. What do I have to do with Tutskii stealing 30 billion ISK and you and lauren trying to convince people he'll be back later with their ISK?
On a side note Raw, not that you ever will have the effect, but should my fund end I assure you my future time in EVE will be war decing your 1 man corps and suicide ganking you when you run to the NPC corp. And no one you hire or bring into the matter will prevent it. Keep poking that finger in my eye and ill break it off and shove it up your ass.
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Lauren Hellfury
Full Pocket Aggro
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Posted - 2011.08.30 17:22:00 -
[124]
Edited by: Lauren Hellfury on 30/08/2011 17:21:59
Originally by: Caliph Muhammed
[...] and lauren trying to convince people he'll be back later with their ISK?
I think you'll find that is a blatant lie. Unless of course you'd like to back it up with a quote and a linky?
ps. still struggling to find RL stuff to post about me are you?
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Caliph Muhammed
Caldari Caldari Naval Criminal Investigative Service
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Posted - 2011.08.30 17:36:00 -
[125]
Originally by: Lauren Hellfury Edited by: Lauren Hellfury on 30/08/2011 17:21:59
Originally by: Caliph Muhammed
[...] and lauren trying to convince people he'll be back later with their ISK?
I think you'll find that is a blatant lie. Unless of course you'd like to back it up with a quote and a linky?
ps. still struggling to find RL stuff to post about me are you?
No, because to me you're irrelevant. Tell Roguehalo I said "whats up!".
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RAW23
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Posted - 2011.08.30 17:45:00 -
[126]
Edited by: RAW23 on 30/08/2011 17:45:30
Originally by: Caliph Muhammed
On a side note Raw, not that you ever will have the effect, but should my fund end I assure you my future time in EVE will be war decing your 1 man corps and suicide ganking you when you run to the NPC corp. And no one you hire or bring into the matter will prevent it.
Trolling removed. Zymurgist
Terrifying  
Given that I've flown about 40 jumps in the last 6 months this approach will give you plenty of time to calm down a bit and do a little meditation.
Also, the threat to break my fingers and shove them up an orifice was most poetic.
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Caliph Muhammed
Caldari Caldari Naval Criminal Investigative Service
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Posted - 2011.08.30 17:49:00 -
[127]
Edited by: Caliph Muhammed on 30/08/2011 17:53:07
Originally by: RAW23 Edited by: RAW23 on 30/08/2011 17:45:30
Originally by: Caliph Muhammed
On a side note Raw, not that you ever will have the effect, but should my fund end I assure you my future time in EVE will be war decing your 1 man corps and suicide ganking you when you run to the NPC corp. And no one you hire or bring into the matter will prevent it.
Trolling removed. Zymurgist
Terrifying  
Given that I've flown about 40 jumps in the last 6 months this approach will give you plenty of time to calm down a bit and do a little meditation.
Also, the threat to break my fingers and shove them up an orifice was most poetic.
Im patient. My dec will be ever present and permanent. You can not play, play under someone elses thumb or trade during a war. Take your pick. And considering im on more than most I assure you're not going to enjoy having your high sec freedom hindered. So talk yourself right into your new EVE playstyle. I promise you i'll make your misery in EVE my characters sole purpose.
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Elise DarkStar
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Posted - 2011.08.30 18:03:00 -
[128]
Edited by: Elise DarkStar on 30/08/2011 18:06:09 lololololol
Someone is mad about spaceships.
That's the great part about having a Jita-jockey as your forum-warrior character.
Edit: I have a couple of spare alliances you can join, individually or as a corp, if you want to make it 50m a week instead of 2m (if I remember my dec mechanics right...).
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RAW23
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Posted - 2011.08.30 20:15:00 -
[129]
Originally by: Caliph Muhammed Edited by: Caliph Muhammed on 30/08/2011 17:53:07
Originally by: RAW23 Edited by: RAW23 on 30/08/2011 17:45:30
Originally by: Caliph Muhammed
On a side note Raw, not that you ever will have the effect, but should my fund end I assure you my future time in EVE will be war decing your 1 man corps and suicide ganking you when you run to the NPC corp. And no one you hire or bring into the matter will prevent it.
Trolling removed. Zymurgist
Terrifying  
Given that I've flown about 40 jumps in the last 6 months this approach will give you plenty of time to calm down a bit and do a little meditation.
Also, the threat to break my fingers and shove them up an orifice was most poetic.
Im patient. My dec will be ever present and permanent. You can not play, play under someone elses thumb or trade during a war. Take your pick. And considering im on more than most I assure you're not going to enjoy having your high sec freedom hindered. So talk yourself right into your new EVE playstyle. I promise you i'll make your misery in EVE my characters sole purpose.
I must admit, it's a long time since an MD post has made me laugh so much. I actually had to wipe away a tear of mirth. I have 18 characters and, if memory serves, I don't think any of them are in the same corps at the moment. How much will it cost you to keep permnent wardecs going on all of them (I'll move any in NPC corps to player corps once you get a few decs going to give you a more target rich environment). Tell you what, if you get five decs going I'll give you the details of another character if you haven't found it already and for each additional dec that you let run for a month I'll let you have the details for another. I also look forward to your attacks on my POSes. I'm sure you'll be able to muster a battleship fleet large enough to take them down. They only have about 120 ewar batteries anchored on each. And one of them actually has a handful of labs too, so big payday there!
              
*deep breath
              
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Caliph Muhammed
Caldari Caldari Naval Criminal Investigative Service
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Posted - 2011.08.30 20:58:00 -
[130]
Edited by: Caliph Muhammed on 30/08/2011 21:00:59 Im not interested in your characters or your chat. Watch your back on Raw because if I catch you slipping, you're getting smoked. Tomorrow, next year, 5 years. Doesn't matter.
If I have the pleasure of making you avoid playing on Raw23 to me it's a win and satisfying. I require nothing more for motivation.
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RAW23
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Posted - 2011.08.30 21:00:00 -
[131]
Originally by: Caliph Muhammed Im not interested in your characters or your chat. Watch your back on Raw because if I catch you slipping, you're getting smoked. Tomorrow, next year, 5 years. Doesn't matter.
So you are going to attack me without attacking my characters? That sounds rather like you intend to come after me in the real world.
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Caliph Muhammed
Caldari Caldari Naval Criminal Investigative Service
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Posted - 2011.08.30 21:02:00 -
[132]
Originally by: RAW23
Originally by: Caliph Muhammed Im not interested in your characters or your chat. Watch your back on Raw because if I catch you slipping, you're getting smoked. Tomorrow, next year, 5 years. Doesn't matter.
So you are going to attack me without attacking my characters? That sounds rather like you intend to come after me in the real world.
Nope, just going to hunt Raw23 down now and forever more in the game and im going to kill you whenever the opportunity presents itself.
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Tom Hagen
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Posted - 2011.08.30 21:07:00 -
[133]
Originally by: Caliph Muhammed Im not interested in your characters or your chat. Watch your back on Raw because if I catch you slipping, you're getting smoked. Tomorrow, next year, 5 years. Doesn't matter.
Eeh. Dude - chill. Please.
I am jumping into this discussiosn even though I know I should stay out of it and that you are just trolling big time - in the vain hopes of getting your attention.
Stop. Trolling.
It's becoming rather tiresome to read your aggressive posting in just about every thread, lacking most levels of finess and refinement (Heck, even Mr Pepridge seems rather nuanced compared to some of the recent rantings I have seen..)
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Caliph Muhammed
Caldari Caldari Naval Criminal Investigative Service
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Posted - 2011.08.30 21:28:00 -
[134]
There are no trolls from me. What I said I meant.
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Serene Python
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Posted - 2011.08.30 21:33:00 -
[135]
Originally by: Caliph Muhammed There are no trolls from me. What I said I meant.
Go pop some prozak(anti-depressent) and some seroquel(anti-psychotic) you clearly aren't taking them as your doctor prescribed. The three times a day means take them at three seperate intervals... Example: Take one at breakfast(mmmm whatever bad food you make) one at lunch(mmmm mud pies) and one at dinner (mmmmmmmmm Serene Pythons big meaty ****).
By not following those directions you have clearly snapped a nerve and now are lubing yourself up for Wilma the Anal Loving Rhinoceros.
With love, Serene Python
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RAW23
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Posted - 2011.08.30 22:10:00 -
[136]
Originally by: Caliph Muhammed
Originally by: RAW23
Originally by: Caliph Muhammed Im not interested in your characters or your chat. Watch your back on Raw because if I catch you slipping, you're getting smoked. Tomorrow, next year, 5 years. Doesn't matter.
So you are going to attack me without attacking my characters? That sounds rather like you intend to come after me in the real world.
Nope, just going to hunt Raw23 down now and forever more in the game and im going to kill you whenever the opportunity presents itself.
I'm sitting 50km off Jita 4-4 in an unfitted Slasher named 'Stressball'. Come and work off some angst.
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OllieNorth
Gallente R-K Industries
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Posted - 2011.08.30 23:07:00 -
[137]
Raw, when did you become my favorite poaster?! I heart this thread.
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Caliph Muhammed
Caldari Caldari Naval Criminal Investigative Service
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Posted - 2011.08.30 23:15:00 -
[138]
Originally by: RAW23 Edited by: RAW23 on 30/08/2011 22:44:19
Originally by: Caliph Muhammed
Originally by: RAW23
Originally by: Caliph Muhammed Im not interested in your characters or your chat. Watch your back on Raw because if I catch you slipping, you're getting smoked. Tomorrow, next year, 5 years. Doesn't matter.
So you are going to attack me without attacking my characters? That sounds rather like you intend to come after me in the real world.
Nope, just going to hunt Raw23 down now and forever more in the game and im going to kill you whenever the opportunity presents itself.
I'm sitting 50km off Jita 4-4 in an unfitted Slasher named 'Stressball'. Come and work off some angst.
Edit - C'mon! I'm sitting in the same system as you for about 20mins now. My wife is going to get annoyed if I spend much more time online so come get a kill.
Raw23 I want this to be a challenge. So seeing as how you aren't yet fully aware of the caliber of intellect you're dealing with, i'm going to help you out. Consider this an act of sportsmanship and fairplay to one I feel disadvantaged.
Number 1. I will never attack you when you ask me to. Sun Tzu would be most displeased. Sitting in a frigate taunting me hoping im not keen to neutral logistics or the other nuances of EVE is a faux pas on your part. Even if your proposition was completely honest, I do not allow my adversaries to dictate the terms.
I told you before i'm a very patient person. I have all the time in world. Let us hope the circumstances surrounding your current bravery are always present.
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OllieNorth
Gallente R-K Industries
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Posted - 2011.08.30 23:25:00 -
[139]
Originally by: Caliph Muhammed Raw23 I want this to be a challenge. So seeing as how you aren't yet fully aware of the caliber of intellect you're dealing with, i'm going to help you out.
He actually wrote this! And I am pretty sure he's serious!! 
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E Trade
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Posted - 2011.08.30 23:30:00 -
[140]
I hate that this could be a scam. Tut was always on top of things when he was around and perhaps he did burn out. Raw you're funny, and caliph you're amazing.
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Elise DarkStar
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Posted - 2011.08.30 23:33:00 -
[141]
Holy ****.
We've crossed the Sun Tzu line...there's no going back now.
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trance atlas
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Posted - 2011.08.31 00:01:00 -
[142]
I can not believe raw is trollin and I missed it
Also sun tzu say rule 1 don't talk aboot sun tzu
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Elise DarkStar
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Posted - 2011.08.31 00:03:00 -
[143]
Originally by: trance atlas Also sun tzu say rule 1 don't talk aboot sun tzu
Thanks...I just spat a mouthful of water on the floor to save my computer.
Next time a little warning, ok?
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trance atlas
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Posted - 2011.08.31 00:13:00 -
[144]
Originally by: Elise DarkStar
Originally by: trance atlas Also sun tzu say rule 1 don't talk aboot sun tzu
Thanks...I just spat a mouthful of water on the floor to save my computer.
Next time a little warning, ok?
Md troll team assemble
Right we have urgent business and need a vote of 78% to allow raw23 into the ranks of acceptable troll status( green star on overview) on md
You have my ax raw23. SIR RAW23
P.s this will be a open ballot
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Brock Nelson
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Posted - 2011.08.31 02:51:00 -
[145]
Scam
Just sayin
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trance atlas
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Posted - 2011.08.31 02:55:00 -
[146]
Originally by: Brock Nelson Scam
Just sayin
:prophet:
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Kethas Protagonist
Protagonist Ventures
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Posted - 2011.08.31 03:46:00 -
[147]
Originally by: trance atlas Also sun tzu say rule 1 don't talk aboot sun tzu
... Sun Tzu was Canadian?
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Phelan Votronski
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Posted - 2011.08.31 05:59:00 -
[148]
Originally by: Tutskii One caveat, Vaerah Varokha has my current API key for my accounts, and he is authorized to release my data in case of a scam for investor protection. This includes alts.
Destiny is calling VV - you're morally obliged to resubscribe and exact justice!
It's funny. A cow learns not to touch an electric fence in one or two iterations. Some humans though will make the same mistakes over and over again expecting different results. Allegedly that was Einstein's definition of insanity. According to that metric KV definitely breaks the nut case threshold and should be hospitalized. Just saying!
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RAW23
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Posted - 2011.08.31 06:53:00 -
[149]
Originally by: Caliph Muhammed
Raw23 I want this to be a challenge. So seeing as how you aren't yet fully aware of the caliber of intellect you're dealing with, i'm going to help you out. Consider this an act of sportsmanship and fairplay to one I feel disadvantaged.
mmm ... just woken up. I left RAW afk on that gate unarmed and undefended in a frigate for an hour last night but didn't get to check his status before closing my laptop and going to bed (my wife is verrry anti-eve). Was a bit disappoint to find him still sitting there this morning. Anyway, I'm back in position and will go afk fo a few hours again. As to wanting it to be a challenge, it's not going to happen. Let me tell you a bit about RAW.
-RAW is a forum alt -RAW has 667k skillpoints -RAW has 85% of his skillpoints in trade skills from the days when he had a secondary use as a regional trader -RAW spent more time in space last night than he has done in his whole eve career
Quote:
Number 1. I will never attack you when you ask me to. Sun Tzu would be most displeased. Sitting in a frigate taunting me hoping im not keen to neutral logistics or the other nuances of EVE is a faux pas on your part. Even if your proposition was completely honest, I do not allow my adversaries to dictate the terms.
The only time you will get to attack RAW is when I want you to. It will never be a challenge because I DO NOT MIND IF HE IS KILLED ANY NUMBER OF TIMES. In fact, I want you to kill him. I want you to work off some of that anger. Consider it a meditative practice, the repetition of a pointless task so as to quiet the mind and get in touch with some parts of the self that are typically drowned out by all the raging, hate and threats. It'll be good for you.
Oh, and Sun Tzu -            
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RAW23
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Posted - 2011.08.31 09:09:00 -
[150]
Edited by: RAW23 on 31/08/2011 09:14:10 Well, someone took the opportunity to pod me (I only had to sit on gate for 2 hours). Come on Caliph, after all your big talk you won't even engage an unarmed frig and yet you will somehow prevent me from playing the game?
I have reshipped to a noob ship (civilian armed this time) and am returning to position. New ship is named 'Anger Management'. Come get some therapy.
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Tom Hagen
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Posted - 2011.08.31 09:35:00 -
[151]
Edited by: Tom Hagen on 31/08/2011 09:36:00 Since Caliph has a superior intellect to everyone else on the forum, I suppose he won't need this, but I still provide it for anyone else who is concerned abour RAW setting up a perma-neutral logi to boost his rookie ship 
With en EHP of 1258 the "slightly" pimped rookie ship below it shouldn't be too hard to alpha with say a tech I fit Thrasher 
[Reaper, Pimped] Damage Control II Estamel's Modified Invulnerability Field Light Shield Maintenance Bot II x1
...or could it be that Caliph is not up for a fight  
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Strrog
Caldari Zero Excavations
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Posted - 2011.08.31 11:01:00 -
[152]
Alrighty does Tutski work some weird hours or went on a 2 week shift or something?
or we got scammed I see
./goes back to sleep
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RAW23
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Posted - 2011.08.31 11:05:00 -
[153]
Originally by: Strrog Alrighty does Tutski work some weird hours or went on a 2 week shift or something?
or we got scammed I see
./goes back to sleep
Two weeks late so looks like a scam/default at the moment.
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Strrog
Caldari Zero Excavations
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Posted - 2011.08.31 11:08:00 -
[154]
Originally by: RAW23
Originally by: Strrog Alrighty does Tutski work some weird hours or went on a 2 week shift or something?
or we got scammed I see
./goes back to sleep
Two weeks late so looks like a scam/default at the moment.
Ehh if it is not a scam, I do not mind hearing bad market news anything can happen... but complete silence... :)
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Claire Voyant
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Posted - 2011.08.31 13:17:00 -
[155]
Scam or tragedy? VV was given API keys to divulge alts in case of scam. Tutskii's girlfriend was given instructions to distribute isk in case of his death or incapacity. Who do you think we will hear from first? VV or Tutskii's imaginary girlfriend?
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Cyniac
Gallente Twilight Star Rangers
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Posted - 2011.08.31 13:42:00 -
[156]
Originally by: Caliph Muhammed
Silence. I kill you!
I dunno... he just seems to come across this way to me.
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Vaerah Vahrokha
Minmatar Vahrokh Consulting
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Posted - 2011.09.01 06:53:00 -
[157]
Edited by: Vaerah Vahrokha on 01/09/2011 06:53:20
Originally by: Claire Voyant Scam or tragedy? VV was given API keys to divulge alts in case of scam. Tutskii's girlfriend was given instructions to distribute isk in case of his death or incapacity. Who do you think we will hear from first? VV or Tutskii's imaginary girlfriend?
Oh, CV delivering a cheap shot, how original!
Could you please link where I stated I even read this thread and took the "API check" task?
There's plenty of "Chribba secured" deals spammed in Jita local you know? This is the same.
Auditing | Research | 3rd Party | Collateral Holding | EvE RL Charity |

IceFyre S18
Zulu Labs Zulu People
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Posted - 2011.09.01 07:27:00 -
[158]
Tutskii says so on first page, but no confirmation from VV, as so far my eyes can see.
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Atima
Minmatar House of Marbles
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Posted - 2011.09.01 08:11:00 -
[159]
Edited by: Atima on 01/09/2011 08:11:59
Originally by: Claire Voyant Scam or tragedy? VV was given API keys to divulge alts in case of scam. Tutskii's girlfriend was given instructions to distribute isk in case of his death or incapacity. Who do you think we will hear from first? VV or Tutskii's imaginary girlfriend?
Confirming that Tutskii's girlfriend is not imaginary, I heard in the background of tutskii on voice before.
Edit : and you believe VV didn't bother to read this thread when it was posted?
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IceFyre S18
Zulu Labs Zulu People
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Posted - 2011.09.01 08:28:00 -
[160]
Of course, but official VV confirmation posting here is required to confirm that statement, all other way is just rabble. imo.
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IceFyre S18
Zulu Labs Zulu People
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Posted - 2011.09.01 08:47:00 -
[161]
Speaking of, just read whole first page couple of times, and again in my opinion: There is not a single thing, even not a smallest one, that secure your investment and give you a minimal power to try to salvage what's left from your isk, in any case. Alot of text, no hard ground to stand on. I don't troll, this is just how I read and understand it. But I think you don't need my opinion but Tutskii to show and fix this.
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Claire Voyant
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Posted - 2011.09.01 11:48:00 -
[162]
Originally by: Vaerah Vahrokha Edited by: Vaerah Vahrokha on 01/09/2011 06:53:20
Originally by: Claire Voyant Scam or tragedy? VV was given API keys to divulge alts in case of scam. Tutskii's girlfriend was given instructions to distribute isk in case of his death or incapacity. Who do you think we will hear from first? VV or Tutskii's imaginary girlfriend?
Oh, CV delivering a cheap shot, how original!
Who exactly am I delivering a "cheap shot" to, Tutskii or you? I think you might be a little thin-skinned.
Originally by: Vaerah Vahrokha Could you please link where I stated I even read this thread and took the "API check" task?
Don't evade the issue. Tutskii said the following: "One caveat, Vaerah Varokha has my current API key for my accounts, and he is authorized to release my data in case of a scam for investor protection. This includes alts." All you need to do is confirm whether you have the information or not and whether you plan on releasing it.
Originally by: Vaerah Vahrokha There's plenty of "Chribba secured" deals spammed in Jita local you know? This is the same.
In what way is this the same? Are you confirming that this is a scam?
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Cyniac
Gallente Twilight Star Rangers
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Posted - 2011.09.01 14:31:00 -
[163]
Originally by: Claire Voyant
Originally by: Vaerah Vahrokha Could you please link where I stated I even read this thread and took the "API check" task?
Don't evade the issue. Tutskii said the following: "One caveat, Vaerah Varokha has my current API key for my accounts, and he is authorized to release my data in case of a scam for investor protection. This includes alts." All you need to do is confirm whether you have the information or not and whether you plan on releasing it.
I think that this makes things fairly clear - yes Tutskii said VV had her API but VV has never stated that nor confirmed it, as is customary (and expected) when you are taking on this kind of responsibility. A very simple statement from VV simply letting the community know whether or not he has/ever has had the API would go a long way to clear things up though.
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trance atlas
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Posted - 2011.09.01 22:38:00 -
[164]
Originally by: Cyniac
Originally by: Claire Voyant
Originally by: Vaerah Vahrokha Could you please link where I stated I even read this thread and took the "API check" task?
Don't evade the issue. Tutskii said the following: "One caveat, Vaerah Varokha has my current API key for my accounts, and he is authorized to release my data in case of a scam for investor protection. This includes alts." All you need to do is confirm whether you have the information or not and whether you plan on releasing it.
I think that this makes things fairly clear - yes Tutskii said VV had her API but VV has never stated that nor confirmed it, as is customary (and expected) when you are taking on this kind of responsibility. A very simple statement from VV simply letting the community know whether or not he has/ever has had the API would go a long way to clear things up though.
3000 character post incoming full of graphs that cyphers into
"no"
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Candy Oshea
Amarr Techfree Investment Group
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Posted - 2011.09.01 22:46:00 -
[165]
Its funny that the players that weren't scammed or "in on it" are the ones speaking the loudest in this thread.
Have any of the investors voiced their concerns?,is it possible the guy may not have "posted" but may have Paid the interest? due to a forum ban of some kind?
And why is VV obligated to post here his alts? it wont change anything will it? ___ iCandy Bonds
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Johann King
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Posted - 2011.09.02 00:41:00 -
[166]
BROCK NELSON = RESIDES IN WESTERN CANADA TUTSKII = RESIDES IN WESTERN CANADA
COINCIDENCE ?
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Tjomek Dumber
Ore Production and Refining Coropration
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Posted - 2011.09.02 03:14:00 -
[167]
Originally by: Candy Oshea Its funny that the players that weren't scammed or "in on it" are the ones speaking the loudest in this thread.
Have any of the investors voiced their concerns?,is it possible the guy may not have "posted" but may have Paid the interest? due to a forum ban of some kind?
And why is VV obligated to post here his alts? it wont change anything will it?
I have voiced my concearns about 3 pages back, and no, no interests were paid in any shape or form.
Tj, out.
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Brock Nelson
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Posted - 2011.09.02 03:35:00 -
[168]
Originally by: Johann King BROCK NELSON = RESIDES IN WESTERN CANADA TUTSKII = RESIDES IN WESTERN CANADA
COINCIDENCE ?
So...don't invest into Canadians?
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Zeta Zhul
Caldari Preemptive Paranoia
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Posted - 2011.09.02 03:37:00 -
[169]
Originally by: Brock Nelson
Originally by: Johann King BROCK NELSON = RESIDES IN WESTERN CANADA TUTSKII = RESIDES IN WESTERN CANADA
COINCIDENCE ?
So...don't invest into Canadians?
I Blame Canada!
Sooooo. This has been ongoing for months now and nobody ever confirmed with VV?
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Candy Oshea
Amarr Techfree Investment Group
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Posted - 2011.09.02 03:52:00 -
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Originally by: Tjomek Dumber I have voiced my concearns about 3 pages back, and no, no interests were paid in any shape or form.
Tj, out.
Oh.. sorry for your Delayed payments/loss. ___ iCandy Bonds
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Hurr Durr Hurrr
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Posted - 2011.09.02 05:44:00 -
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I didn't get anything, I'm just to ashamed to post on my main, I keep a close eye on this thread hoping Tutskii will return..
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Atima
Minmatar House of Marbles
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Posted - 2011.09.02 09:28:00 -
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Originally by: Brock Nelson
Originally by: Johann King BROCK NELSON = RESIDES IN WESTERN CANADA TUTSKII = RESIDES IN WESTERN CANADA
COINCIDENCE ?
So...don't invest into Canadians?
This guy's late to the picnic
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Claire Voyant
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Posted - 2011.09.02 09:35:00 -
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Breaker77 performed an audit of Tutskii for his first two bonds back in March and Tutskii said Breaker still had the full API at the time of his third bond in April. Perhaps someone should ask Breaker if the API key he has still works and if he is willing to check to see if the isk is still there.
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Breaker77
Gallente Reclamation Industries
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Posted - 2011.09.03 19:29:00 -
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Edited by: Breaker77 on 03/09/2011 19:31:50
Originally by: Claire Voyant Breaker77 performed an audit of Tutskii for his first two bonds back in March and Tutskii said Breaker still had the full API at the time of his third bond in April. Perhaps someone should ask Breaker if the API key he has still works and if he is willing to check to see if the isk is still there.
When I go to pull his API through EWA I receive Error 203 Authentication Error.
I'm actually surprised I still had his API key.
edit: I can also confirm that 1 one alt on his account is still there, but the 2nd alt has been deleted as it can not be found doing a character search ingame.
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