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Better Than You	Posted - 2011.07.04 08:46:00 - [1] HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!! EVE-Online is an absolute dream compared to that game. That said, I can understand crappy players leaving in hopes to find something they might be good at. Bye bye now, you all are already forgotten. - Friendship will always trump the desire to fight!
Peer Pressure	Posted - 2011.07.04 08:47:00 - [2] You should have a monocle. Until you have one, you're not better than anyone...
Bo Tosh	Posted - 2011.07.04 08:52:00 - [3] Didn't you lose a Dramiel to a Badger? No? Ah well at least he was funny.
San Severina Minmatar	Posted - 2011.07.04 08:58:00 - [4] I think people are leaving because EvE is bad, the fact that they try another game is because they left EvE, because EvE is bad, why shouldn't people play another game? Could it possibly be as bad as EvE? I seriously doubt it. EvE is BAD.

Chribba Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire	Posted - 2011.07.04 09:10:00 - [5] I think you mean Perpetuum-Online. Did you even try it? /c Secure 3rd party service \| in-game 'Holy Veldspar' Now /w voice

Gando dun Caldari	Posted - 2011.07.04 09:14:00 - [6] kthxbye.
Tanya Fox	Posted - 2011.07.04 09:31:00 - [7] Not played that other game yet, although I am considering trying it. Prefered the look of the mechs in mechwarrior though which was a game I enjoyed. Spent over an hour yesterday looking at their website as well as reading some of the posts on their forums, including those from people that left Eve or are now playing both with reduced amount of accounts here. One thing a lot seem to agree is that other game has potential, it's also clear in that other game the devs do actually value what their customers say. Which really does mean that game has potential, if that potential is ever realised is another matter, time will tell. As for CQ it's ok but it really is a non-event, even walk-in stations is really pretty dull. Other MMOs do that kind of thing far better than Eve can. As more things get added to this game it just turns it into more of a theme park, but that's not a bad thing for CCP because people like theme parks, just look at WoW that's the biggest MMO theme park of them all. So Eve or Perpetuum, Perpetuum to me has the largest potential at this point, mainly because of the way they listen to their customers and they don't seem to have that over-inflated view of themselves. So op you can laugh at them as much as you want, but it's Eve that has lost out to some degree. And if you op are better than anyone, rest assured it's only in your mind.
Better Than You	Posted - 2011.07.04 09:36:00 - [8] Edited by: Better Than You on 04/07/2011 09:36:34 Originally by: Chribba I think you mean Perpetuum-Online. Did you even try it? /c I did the 14 day free trial. Logged in, laughed at the horrible splash screen graphics, went to the character creator, laughed uncontrollably at the horrible graphics, left the station and was meet with garbage for a UI. Then proceeded to laugh out loud and closed the program and quickly installed it. Horrible game for horrible people. EVE-Online 4 life!![maroon] [maroon] - Friendship will always trump the desire to fight!
Blane Xero Amarr The Firestorm Cartel	Posted - 2011.07.04 09:36:00 - [9] Edited by: Blane Xero on 04/07/2011 09:37:08 umad Originally by: Better Than You Originally by: Chribba I think you mean Perpetuum-Online. Did you even try it? /c [maroon][b]I did the 14 day free trial. Logged in, laughed at the horrible splash screen graphics, went to the character creator, laughed uncontrollably at the horrible graphics, left the station and was meet with garbage for a UI. Then proceeded to laugh out loud and closed the program and quickly installed it. Horrible game for horrible people. EVE-Online 4 life!! So in short, you're one of those "Graphics is everything" morons. Right. You never really tried the game at all, don't kid yourself. _____________________________________ Haruhiist since December 2008
Atari Gene	Posted - 2011.07.04 09:39:00 - [10] Originally by: Blane Xero Edited by: Blane Xero on 04/07/2011 09:37:08 umad Originally by: Better Than You Originally by: Chribba I think you mean Perpetuum-Online. Did you even try it? /c [maroon][b]I did the 14 day free trial. Logged in, laughed at the horrible splash screen graphics, went to the character creator, laughed uncontrollably at the horrible graphics, left the station and was meet with garbage for a UI. Then proceeded to laugh out loud and closed the program and quickly installed it. Horrible game for horrible people. EVE-Online 4 life!! So in short, you're one of those "Graphics is everything" morons. Right. You never really tried the game at all, don't kid yourself. Yup pretty much sums up the guy. He like em space barbies
democrities Zebra Corp BricK sQuAD.	Posted - 2011.07.04 09:39:00 - [11] Originally by: Tanya Fox Not played that other game yet, although I am considering trying it. Prefered the look of the mechs in mechwarrior though which was a game I enjoyed. Spent over an hour yesterday looking at their website as well as reading some of the posts on their forums, including those from people that left Eve or are now playing both with reduced amount of accounts here. One thing a lot seem to agree is that other game has potential, it's also clear in that other game the devs do actually value what their customers say. Which really does mean that game has potential, if that potential is ever realised is another matter, time will tell. As for CQ it's ok but it really is a non-event, even walk-in stations is really pretty dull. Other MMOs do that kind of thing far better than Eve can. As more things get added to this game it just turns it into more of a theme park, but that's not a bad thing for CCP because people like theme parks, just look at WoW that's the biggest MMO theme park of them all. So Eve or Perpetuum, Perpetuum to me has the largest potential at this point, mainly because of the way they listen to their customers and they don't seem to have that over-inflated view of themselves. So op you can laugh at them as much as you want, but it's Eve that has lost out to some degree. And if you op are better than anyone, rest assured it's only in your mind. It's easy for a dev to listen to customers when you only have 500 of them.
Chong Woon	Posted - 2011.07.04 09:41:00 - [12] Originally by: democrities It's easy for a dev to listen to customers when you only have 500 of them. No not really
Suitonia Gallente Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED	Posted - 2011.07.04 09:44:00 - [13] You've got to hand it to perpetuum, they've succeeded in creating the impossible. A UI that is somehow worse than eves. ---
Tanya Fox	Posted - 2011.07.04 09:46:00 - [14] Originally by: Better Than You Edited by: Better Than You on 04/07/2011 09:36:34 Originally by: Chribba I think you mean Perpetuum-Online. Did you even try it? /c [maroon]I did the 14 day free trial. Logged in, laughed at the horrible splash screen graphics, went to the character creator, laughed uncontrollably at the horrible graphics, left the station and was meet with garbage for a UI. Then proceeded to laugh out loud and closed the program and quickly installed it. Horrible game for horrible people. EVE-Online 4 life!![maroon] The character creator in Perpetuum is not great graphically by any standards, but then nor was Eve's until resently. My favourite game of all time was Morrowind (with the game editor) and the graphics were crap in that. The world graphics in Perpetuum seem fairly good from all the screen shots I've seen, although I've read that there some rendering problems with some shadows on occassions. Horrible game for horrible people? You sound quite horrible yourself, enough said.
Tanya Fox	Posted - 2011.07.04 09:49:00 - [15] Originally by: democrities Originally by: Tanya Fox Not played that other game yet, although I am considering trying it. Prefered the look of the mechs in mechwarrior though which was a game I enjoyed. Spent over an hour yesterday looking at their website as well as reading some of the posts on their forums, including those from people that left Eve or are now playing both with reduced amount of accounts here. One thing a lot seem to agree is that other game has potential, it's also clear in that other game the devs do actually value what their customers say. Which really does mean that game has potential, if that potential is ever realised is another matter, time will tell. As for CQ it's ok but it really is a non-event, even walk-in stations is really pretty dull. Other MMOs do that kind of thing far better than Eve can. As more things get added to this game it just turns it into more of a theme park, but that's not a bad thing for CCP because people like theme parks, just look at WoW that's the biggest MMO theme park of them all. So Eve or Perpetuum, Perpetuum to me has the largest potential at this point, mainly because of the way they listen to their customers and they don't seem to have that over-inflated view of themselves. So op you can laugh at them as much as you want, but it's Eve that has lost out to some degree. And if you op are better than anyone, rest assured it's only in your mind. It's easy for a dev to listen to customers when you only have 500 of them. That's not actually true, the reason being people break off into groups so you're not actually dealing with individuals as such.
Chong Woon	Posted - 2011.07.04 09:49:00 - [16] Originally by: Suitonia You've got to hand it to perpetuum, they've succeeded in creating the impossible. A UI that is somehow worse than eves. You do realize it just take a bit more braincells to figure out you can move the UI around and set it up how you see fit... oh wait.. your one of those graphics *****s... okay nevermind
Taegan Kairos Caldari Xenon Salvage Inc.	Posted - 2011.07.04 09:51:00 - [17] Originally by: Chribba I think you mean Perpetuum-Online. Did you even try it? /c I did. It was... purple and laggy. Fiddled with the settings at length, everything up, everything down, all sorts of combinations in between - couldn't get past the whole starting ares coming up as sort of mossy purple grey landscape with hard to see mechs dotted around in it. Couldn't even find my own bot sometimes even with the advantage of expecting it to be centre-screen... Lag I could forgive if it a) was intermittent and b) was purely a factor of a sudden influx of players. But I tried at several points through the day, with alleged low server loads at times. No dice. Might be a nice game when they finish it but it plays like a pre-release at the moment. Yes, I have a half-decent computer that easily exceeds all the posted recommended requirements and is maintained sensibly. And in terms of expectations, no, I'm not a graphics or performance snob - spent the past weekend enjoying Neverwinter Nights.
Mintoko Gallente Taedium In Perpetuam	Posted - 2011.07.04 09:52:00 - [18] Originally by: Better Than You HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!! EVE-Online is an absolute dream compared to that game. That said, I can understand crappy players leaving in hopes to find something they might be good at. Bye bye now, you all are already forgotten. ] The fact that you decided to post this means they've not been forgotten.
Suitonia Gallente Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED	Posted - 2011.07.04 09:54:00 - [19] Originally by: Chong Woon Originally by: Suitonia You've got to hand it to perpetuum, they've succeeded in creating the impossible. A UI that is somehow worse than eves. You do realize it just take a bit more braincells to figure out you can move the UI around and set it up how you see fit... oh wait.. your one of those graphics *****s... okay nevermind For someone who claims to have more than a few braincells you seem to have a lot of problems actually reading, and seem to resort to personal attacks awfully quickly. I don't care about graphics at all, I was talking about the UI. A game can have a rubbish UI with great graphics (See EVE). ---
Chong Woon	Posted - 2011.07.04 10:02:00 - [20] Originally by: Suitonia For someone who claims to have more than a few braincells you seem to have a lot of problems actually reading, and seem to resort to personal attacks awfully quickly. I don't care about graphics at all, I was talking about the UI. A game can have a rubbish UI with great graphics (See EVE). Just keeping in the theme of a troll thread Normally am more polite
Gwenywell Shumuku	Posted - 2011.07.04 10:08:00 - [21] Perpetuum Online - a very nice "EvEish" Game, but like 2003. PROBLEM: they are already thinking about MT too, so, i didn't resub there.
Chong Woon	Posted - 2011.07.04 10:12:00 - [22] Originally by: Gwenywell Shumuku Perpetuum Online - a very nice "EvEish" Game, but like 2003. PROBLEM: they are already thinking about MT too, so, i didn't resub there. MT is everywhere there is no escape!! I do appreciate clear cut announcements though and not ambiguous jargon talk.
Ayame Yubari	Posted - 2011.07.04 10:17:00 - [23] I'm also on trial in that other game. My observations are as follows: the character creator is horrible, true. But it also shows one very positive aspect of the game: the focus is on more important things like gameplay. Something I think many EVE players would have preferred over CQ and barbie dress up these past weeks. All things considered, and excluding CQ, graphics are actually better in PO. And here's why: EVE is basically just empty space with flashy backgrounds. The only actual geometry that needs rendering is spaceships, stations, asteroids, planets and some other structures for decoration. There are ridiculously few polygons to render. From a 3D environment creation point of view, this is the easiest and most pain free scenarios imaginable. Create some pretty backgrounds, wrap them in a sphere around the player area and scale them up very much. Then add some flashy lighting so people will be in awe when they look into the sun and that's it. PO has actual landscapes with trees, lots of futuristic buildings, electricity effects and the mechs look nice too. So in my opinion, PO wins minus CQ/characters. The interface doesn't quite have the functionality of EVE's yet, but from a visual perspective I actually find it more pleasing. Mainly because lots of windows use a very readable and larger font than EVE. There are some windows that use the same small micro font, but at least not all of them. Thought I'd clarify because the OP apparently is a graphics *****, but got it all wrong.
Gwenywell Shumuku	Posted - 2011.07.04 10:19:00 - [24] Originally by: Chong Woon Originally by: Gwenywell Shumuku Perpetuum Online - a very nice "EvEish" Game, but like 2003. PROBLEM: they are already thinking about MT too, so, i didn't resub there. MT is everywhere there is no escape!! I do appreciate clear cut announcements though and not ambiguous jargon talk. Yea, but at this point PO is just a bad EVE-clone getting MT too, buhu. A mistake in my eyes, but hey, they have to know what they are doing. For an EVE-vet there is just no reason to change to PO anymore, as it will be the same, just with 2003 feeling and alot less players. They could have set themselves apart keeping MT out, but no....well, their loss.
Nuhm DeAra	Posted - 2011.07.04 10:28:00 - [25] Originally by: San Severina I think people are leaving because EvE is bad, the fact that they try another game is because they left EvE, because EvE is bad, why shouldn't people play another game? Could it possibly be as bad as EvE? I seriously doubt it. EvE is BAD. You. Out. Thanks, please allow the door to hit you.
Chong Woon	Posted - 2011.07.04 10:31:00 - [26] Originally by: Gwenywell Shumuku Yea, but at this point PO is just a bad EVE-clone getting MT too, buhu. A mistake in my eyes, but hey, they have to know what they are doing. For an EVE-vet there is just no reason to change to PO anymore, as it will be the same, just with 2003 feeling and alot less players. They could have set themselves apart keeping MT out, but no....well, their loss. On a more polite tone In this day and age Keeping MT out of the equation for a game is not possible. So for Bitter-vets quitting because of MT, Yep PO is not for you. As for the others quitting for other reasons besides MT it's worth a look see. (Do note P2W is different than MT )
Amberlamps	Posted - 2011.07.04 10:39:00 - [27] They both have similar UI.... They both have crap graphics, if you think Eve is something to be impressed with in terms of graphics than you are living in cloud cuckoo land. Our modern graphics cards can push out much more than Eve demands and could make our experience much more visually pleasing. However games aren't all about graphics... after all I still go back and play monkey island and that's a classic amirite?
Cebit FLA5HY RED The Defenders of Pen Island	Posted - 2011.07.04 10:50:00 - [28] Will keep my account running over there. Think it has potential. Nice to see all it's dev's efforts goes into improving gameplay,lag,balance and bugs. Much like EVE was around 03/04 i guess. One think i wish EVE could copy from there would be the line of sight fire. The depth added would be just mind boggling. Would be so nice to be able use the asteroid fields as cover and add another awesome dimension to the game. Know that it have been one of the things that irritated me a bit from start. The always hit thing and no way of avoiding incomming shots,but guess later just got used to it. And the UI is not much different to EVE's in a way tbh. After some time playing i even got them placed in a similar way i'm used to from here. WIll deffinately continue keep an eye on it. There is no law against having sub's in both games
Medidranda Livoga	Posted - 2011.07.04 10:56:00 - [29] So you play EVE and blatantly diss the only game on market that is even remotely of the same type of design? That makes you so stupid that ****** is nowhere adequate word to describe you but it will have to suffice. Oh, and poast with your main.
San Severina Minmatar	Posted - 2011.07.04 13:04:00 - [30] confirming OP is an idiot The really important stuff is not how slick the UI or graphics are, they can be improved.

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