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Better Than You
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Posted - 2011.07.04 08:46:00 -
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!! 
EVE-Online is an absolute dream compared to that game. That said, I can understand crappy players leaving in hopes to find something they might be good at.
Bye bye now, you all are already forgotten. 
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Peer Pressure
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Posted - 2011.07.04 08:47:00 -
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You should have a monocle. Until you have one, you're not better than anyone...
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Bo Tosh
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Posted - 2011.07.04 08:52:00 -
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Didn't you lose a Dramiel to a Badger?
No?
Ah well at least he was funny.
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San Severina
Minmatar
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Posted - 2011.07.04 08:58:00 -
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I think people are leaving because EvE is bad, the fact that they try another game is because they left EvE, because EvE is bad, why shouldn't people play another game?
Could it possibly be as bad as EvE? I seriously doubt it.
EvE is BAD.
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises
Otherworld Empire
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Posted - 2011.07.04 09:10:00 -
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I think you mean Perpetuum-Online. Did you even try it?
/c
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Gando dun
Caldari
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Posted - 2011.07.04 09:14:00 -
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kthxbye.
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Tanya Fox
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Posted - 2011.07.04 09:31:00 -
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Not played that other game yet, although I am considering trying it. Prefered the look of the mechs in mechwarrior though which was a game I enjoyed.
Spent over an hour yesterday looking at their website as well as reading some of the posts on their forums, including those from people that left Eve or are now playing both with reduced amount of accounts here.
One thing a lot seem to agree is that other game has potential, it's also clear in that other game the devs do actually value what their customers say. Which really does mean that game has potential, if that potential is ever realised is another matter, time will tell.
As for CQ it's ok but it really is a non-event, even walk-in stations is really pretty dull. Other MMOs do that kind of thing far better than Eve can.
As more things get added to this game it just turns it into more of a theme park, but that's not a bad thing for CCP because people like theme parks, just look at WoW that's the biggest MMO theme park of them all.
So Eve or Perpetuum, Perpetuum to me has the largest potential at this point, mainly because of the way they listen to their customers and they don't seem to have that over-inflated view of themselves.
So op you can laugh at them as much as you want, but it's Eve that has lost out to some degree.
And if you op are better than anyone, rest assured it's only in your mind.
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Better Than You
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Posted - 2011.07.04 09:36:00 -
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Edited by: Better Than You on 04/07/2011 09:36:34
 Originally by: Chribba
I think you mean Perpetuum-Online. Did you even try it?
/c
I did the 14 day free trial. Logged in, laughed at the horrible splash screen graphics, went to the character creator, laughed uncontrollably at the horrible graphics, left the station and was meet with garbage for a UI. Then proceeded to laugh out loud and closed the program and quickly installed it.
Horrible game for horrible people. EVE-Online 4 life!![maroon]
[maroon]
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Blane Xero
Amarr
The Firestorm Cartel
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Posted - 2011.07.04 09:36:00 -
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Edited by: Blane Xero on 04/07/2011 09:37:08
umad
Originally by: Better Than You
Originally by: Chribba
I think you mean Perpetuum-Online. Did you even try it?
/c
[maroon][b]I did the 14 day free trial. Logged in, laughed at the horrible splash screen graphics, went to the character creator, laughed uncontrollably at the horrible graphics, left the station and was meet with garbage for a UI. Then proceeded to laugh out loud and closed the program and quickly installed it.
Horrible game for horrible people. EVE-Online 4 life!!
So in short, you're one of those "Graphics is everything" morons. Right.
You never really tried the game at all, don't kid yourself.
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Haruhiist since December 2008
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Atari Gene
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Posted - 2011.07.04 09:39:00 -
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Originally by: Blane Xero
Edited by: Blane Xero on 04/07/2011 09:37:08
umad
Originally by: Better Than You
Originally by: Chribba
I think you mean Perpetuum-Online. Did you even try it?
/c
[maroon][b]I did the 14 day free trial. Logged in, laughed at the horrible splash screen graphics, went to the character creator, laughed uncontrollably at the horrible graphics, left the station and was meet with garbage for a UI. Then proceeded to laugh out loud and closed the program and quickly installed it.
Horrible game for horrible people. EVE-Online 4 life!!
So in short, you're one of those "Graphics is everything" morons. Right.
You never really tried the game at all, don't kid yourself.
Yup pretty much sums up the guy. He like em space barbies
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democrities
Zebra Corp
BricK sQuAD.
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Posted - 2011.07.04 09:39:00 -
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Originally by: Tanya Fox
Not played that other game yet, although I am considering trying it. Prefered the look of the mechs in mechwarrior though which was a game I enjoyed.
Spent over an hour yesterday looking at their website as well as reading some of the posts on their forums, including those from people that left Eve or are now playing both with reduced amount of accounts here.
One thing a lot seem to agree is that other game has potential, it's also clear in that other game the devs do actually value what their customers say. Which really does mean that game has potential, if that potential is ever realised is another matter, time will tell.
As for CQ it's ok but it really is a non-event, even walk-in stations is really pretty dull. Other MMOs do that kind of thing far better than Eve can.
As more things get added to this game it just turns it into more of a theme park, but that's not a bad thing for CCP because people like theme parks, just look at WoW that's the biggest MMO theme park of them all.
So Eve or Perpetuum, Perpetuum to me has the largest potential at this point, mainly because of the way they listen to their customers and they don't seem to have that over-inflated view of themselves.
So op you can laugh at them as much as you want, but it's Eve that has lost out to some degree.
And if you op are better than anyone, rest assured it's only in your mind.
It's easy for a dev to listen to customers when you only have 500 of them.
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Chong Woon
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Posted - 2011.07.04 09:41:00 -
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Originally by: democrities
It's easy for a dev to listen to customers when you only have 500 of them.
No not really 
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Suitonia
Gallente
Genos Occidere
HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2011.07.04 09:44:00 -
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You've got to hand it to perpetuum, they've succeeded in creating the impossible. A UI that is somehow worse than eves.
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Tanya Fox
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Posted - 2011.07.04 09:46:00 -
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Originally by: Better Than You
Edited by: Better Than You on 04/07/2011 09:36:34
Originally by: Chribba
I think you mean Perpetuum-Online. Did you even try it?
/c
[maroon]I did the 14 day free trial. Logged in, laughed at the horrible splash screen graphics, went to the character creator, laughed uncontrollably at the horrible graphics, left the station and was meet with garbage for a UI. Then proceeded to laugh out loud and closed the program and quickly installed it.
Horrible game for horrible people. EVE-Online 4 life!![maroon]
The character creator in Perpetuum is not great graphically by any standards, but then nor was Eve's until resently. My favourite game of all time was Morrowind (with the game editor) and the graphics were crap in that.
The world graphics in Perpetuum seem fairly good from all the screen shots I've seen, although I've read that there some rendering problems with some shadows on occassions.
Horrible game for horrible people? You sound quite horrible yourself, enough said.
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Tanya Fox
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Posted - 2011.07.04 09:49:00 -
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Originally by: democrities
Originally by: Tanya Fox
Not played that other game yet, although I am considering trying it. Prefered the look of the mechs in mechwarrior though which was a game I enjoyed.
Spent over an hour yesterday looking at their website as well as reading some of the posts on their forums, including those from people that left Eve or are now playing both with reduced amount of accounts here.
One thing a lot seem to agree is that other game has potential, it's also clear in that other game the devs do actually value what their customers say. Which really does mean that game has potential, if that potential is ever realised is another matter, time will tell.
As for CQ it's ok but it really is a non-event, even walk-in stations is really pretty dull. Other MMOs do that kind of thing far better than Eve can.
As more things get added to this game it just turns it into more of a theme park, but that's not a bad thing for CCP because people like theme parks, just look at WoW that's the biggest MMO theme park of them all.
So Eve or Perpetuum, Perpetuum to me has the largest potential at this point, mainly because of the way they listen to their customers and they don't seem to have that over-inflated view of themselves.
So op you can laugh at them as much as you want, but it's Eve that has lost out to some degree.
And if you op are better than anyone, rest assured it's only in your mind.
It's easy for a dev to listen to customers when you only have 500 of them.
That's not actually true, the reason being people break off into groups so you're not actually dealing with individuals as such.
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Chong Woon
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Posted - 2011.07.04 09:49:00 -
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Originally by: Suitonia
You've got to hand it to perpetuum, they've succeeded in creating the impossible. A UI that is somehow worse than eves.
You do realize it just take a bit more braincells to figure out you can move the UI around and set it up how you see fit... oh wait.. your one of those graphics *****s... okay nevermind
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Taegan Kairos
Caldari
Xenon Salvage Inc.
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Posted - 2011.07.04 09:51:00 -
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Originally by: Chribba
I think you mean Perpetuum-Online. Did you even try it?
/c
I did. It was... purple and laggy.
Fiddled with the settings at length, everything up, everything down, all sorts of combinations in between - couldn't get past the whole starting ares coming up as sort of mossy purple grey landscape with hard to see mechs dotted around in it. Couldn't even find my own bot sometimes even with the advantage of expecting it to be centre-screen...
Lag I could forgive if it a) was intermittent and b) was purely a factor of a sudden influx of players. But I tried at several points through the day, with alleged low server loads at times. No dice.
Might be a nice game when they finish it but it plays like a pre-release at the moment. Yes, I have a half-decent computer that easily exceeds all the posted recommended requirements and is maintained sensibly. And in terms of expectations, no, I'm not a graphics or performance snob - spent the past weekend enjoying Neverwinter Nights.
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Mintoko
Gallente
Taedium In Perpetuam
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Posted - 2011.07.04 09:52:00 -
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Originally by: Better Than You
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!
EVE-Online is an absolute dream compared to that game. That said, I can understand crappy players leaving in hopes to find something they might be good at.
Bye bye now, you all are already forgotten. ]
The fact that you decided to post this means they've not been forgotten.
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Suitonia
Gallente
Genos Occidere
HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2011.07.04 09:54:00 -
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Originally by: Chong Woon
Originally by: Suitonia
You've got to hand it to perpetuum, they've succeeded in creating the impossible. A UI that is somehow worse than eves.
You do realize it just take a bit more braincells to figure out you can move the UI around and set it up how you see fit... oh wait.. your one of those graphics *****s... okay nevermind
For someone who claims to have more than a few braincells you seem to have a lot of problems actually reading, and seem to resort to personal attacks awfully quickly. I don't care about graphics at all, I was talking about the UI. A game can have a rubbish UI with great graphics (See EVE).
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Chong Woon
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Posted - 2011.07.04 10:02:00 -
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Originally by: Suitonia
For someone who claims to have more than a few braincells you seem to have a lot of problems actually reading, and seem to resort to personal attacks awfully quickly. I don't care about graphics at all, I was talking about the UI. A game can have a rubbish UI with great graphics (See EVE).
Just keeping in the theme of a troll thread Normally am more polite 
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Gwenywell Shumuku
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Posted - 2011.07.04 10:08:00 -
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Perpetuum Online - a very nice "EvEish" Game, but like 2003.
PROBLEM: they are already thinking about MT too, so, i didn't resub there. 
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Chong Woon
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Posted - 2011.07.04 10:12:00 -
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Originally by: Gwenywell Shumuku
Perpetuum Online - a very nice "EvEish" Game, but like 2003.
PROBLEM: they are already thinking about MT too, so, i didn't resub there.
MT is everywhere there is no escape!!  I do appreciate clear cut announcements though and not ambiguous jargon talk.
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Ayame Yubari
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Posted - 2011.07.04 10:17:00 -
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I'm also on trial in that other game. My observations are as follows:
the character creator is horrible, true. But it also shows one very positive aspect of the game: the focus is on more important things like gameplay. Something I think many EVE players would have preferred over CQ and barbie dress up these past weeks.
All things considered, and excluding CQ, graphics are actually better in PO. And here's why:
EVE is basically just empty space with flashy backgrounds. The only actual geometry that needs rendering is spaceships, stations, asteroids, planets and some other structures for decoration. There are ridiculously few polygons to render. From a 3D environment creation point of view, this is the easiest and most pain free scenarios imaginable. Create some pretty backgrounds, wrap them in a sphere around the player area and scale them up very much. Then add some flashy lighting so people will be in awe when they look into the sun and that's it.
PO has actual landscapes with trees, lots of futuristic buildings, electricity effects and the mechs look nice too. So in my opinion, PO wins minus CQ/characters.
The interface doesn't quite have the functionality of EVE's yet, but from a visual perspective I actually find it more pleasing. Mainly because lots of windows use a very readable and larger font than EVE. There are some windows that use the same small micro font, but at least not all of them.
Thought I'd clarify because the OP apparently is a graphics *****, but got it all wrong.
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Gwenywell Shumuku
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Posted - 2011.07.04 10:19:00 -
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Originally by: Chong Woon
Originally by: Gwenywell Shumuku
Perpetuum Online - a very nice "EvEish" Game, but like 2003.
PROBLEM: they are already thinking about MT too, so, i didn't resub there.
MT is everywhere there is no escape!! I do appreciate clear cut announcements though and not ambiguous jargon talk.
Yea, but at this point PO is just a bad EVE-clone getting MT too, buhu. A mistake in my eyes, but hey, they have to know what they are doing.
For an EVE-vet there is just no reason to change to PO anymore, as it will be the same, just with 2003 feeling and alot less players.
They could have set themselves apart keeping MT out, but no....well, their loss.
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Nuhm DeAra
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Posted - 2011.07.04 10:28:00 -
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Originally by: San Severina
I think people are leaving because EvE is bad, the fact that they try another game is because they left EvE, because EvE is bad, why shouldn't people play another game?
Could it possibly be as bad as EvE? I seriously doubt it.
EvE is BAD.
You. Out.
Thanks, please allow the door to hit you.
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Chong Woon
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Posted - 2011.07.04 10:31:00 -
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Originally by: Gwenywell Shumuku
Yea, but at this point PO is just a bad EVE-clone getting MT too, buhu. A mistake in my eyes, but hey, they have to know what they are doing.
For an EVE-vet there is just no reason to change to PO anymore, as it will be the same, just with 2003 feeling and alot less players.
They could have set themselves apart keeping MT out, but no....well, their loss.
On a more polite tone In this day and age Keeping MT out of the equation for a game is not possible. So for Bitter-vets quitting because of MT, Yep PO is not for you. As for the others quitting for other reasons besides MT it's worth a look see. (Do note P2W is different than MT )
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Amberlamps
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Posted - 2011.07.04 10:39:00 -
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They both have similar UI....
They both have crap graphics, if you think Eve is something to be impressed with in terms of graphics than you are living in cloud cuckoo land. Our modern graphics cards can push out much more than Eve demands and could make our experience much more visually pleasing. However games aren't all about graphics... after all I still go back and play monkey island and that's a classic amirite?
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Cebit
FLA5HY RED
The Defenders of Pen Island
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Posted - 2011.07.04 10:50:00 -
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Will keep my account running over there. Think it has potential. Nice to see all it's dev's efforts goes into improving gameplay,lag,balance and bugs. Much like EVE was around 03/04 i guess.
One think i wish EVE could copy from there would be the line of sight fire. The depth added would be just mind boggling. Would be so nice to be able use the asteroid fields as cover and add another awesome dimension to the game. Know that it have been one of the things that irritated me a bit from start. The always hit thing and no way of avoiding incomming shots,but guess later just got used to it.
And the UI is not much different to EVE's in a way tbh. After some time playing i even got them placed in a similar way i'm used to from here. WIll deffinately continue keep an eye on it. There is no law against having sub's in both games 
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Medidranda Livoga
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Posted - 2011.07.04 10:56:00 -
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So you play EVE and blatantly diss the only game on market that is even remotely of the same type of design? That makes you so stupid that ****** is nowhere adequate word to describe you but it will have to suffice. Oh, and poast with your main. 
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San Severina
Minmatar
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Posted - 2011.07.04 13:04:00 -
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confirming OP is an idiot
The really important stuff is not how slick the UI or graphics are, they can be improved.
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Enna Shendara
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Posted - 2011.07.04 13:23:00 -
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Perpetuum online has terrible graphics, a horrible UI and seems to glitch out a lot.
Reminds me of eve when I first started playing, really.
I'd also just like to say that Perpetuum basically ripped Eve off verbatim and inserted the word robot wherever they found the word spaceship, and yet they still managed to come up with a more interesting mining system.
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Electra GaafCramo
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Posted - 2011.07.04 13:35:00 -
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Edited by: Electra GaafCramo on 04/07/2011 13:35:46
/me aggrees strongly with OP.
Perpetuum is trying to become EVE, and they are failing hard on a few initial important steps. Each GM's has chars all over the place. GM's are the spies of this game. They are in lots of opposing corps. Worst thing is. They got these accounts for free.
Forget about PO, despite having a second revival, it's doomed to fail, with DEVs being so tight knit to old beta players, and seemingly not caring the least (except for the wallet) of new players.
m2s, a very famous corp in Perpetuum, is absolutely crawling with GM's. GM's having spies in all the corporations they fought. No wonder they kicked everyones ass time after time.
It is not a game, it is a show.
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Indusy
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Posted - 2011.07.04 13:38:00 -
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Originally by: San Severina
confirming OP is an idiot
The really important stuff is not how slick the UI or graphics are, they can be improved.
You don't need to write anything, save yourself some time. Just post your name in every topic and we could insert some random bash to EVE in the blank space.
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Bklyn 1
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Posted - 2011.07.04 13:48:00 -
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I like Perp. I understand that others may not for various reasons. Really, with any game you should try it, especially when it offers a free trial, and decide for yourself. Forum opinions can only get you so far.
Also, op does seem to be an idiot. Obviously anyone who does not share your opinion is a crappy player? Logic, you fail at it sir.
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Lhanisa Khinan
Amarr
Morning Glory Media
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Posted - 2011.07.04 13:59:00 -
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Originally by: Enna Shendara
Perpetuum online has terrible graphics, a horrible UI and seems to glitch out a lot.
Reminds me of eve when I first started playing, really.
I'd also just like to say that Perpetuum basically ripped Eve off verbatim and inserted the word robot wherever they found the word spaceship, and yet they still managed to come up with a more interesting mining system.
As a half-miner EVE player who recently tried Perpetuum and attempted to recreate his character there...
No, I would not personally say Perp has a more interesting mining system. It's still just shooting lasers at rocks - they just inserted a few fiddly extra steps that bog the entire process down in needless clicking. If they wanted to add sensor requirements to find underground minerals, that's fine, but they should have just made that an extra fitting requirement instead of a tedious minigame in and of itself.
However, I do think the game has potential, if/when the devs start recognizing that they are a mech game and simply putting slight twists on the stuff they're copying off of EVE is hamstringing their game. The UI needs work, mechanics need work, and it's far from polished enough to hold my interest at the moment, but who knows? Maybe in the future I'll give it another try and find it vastly improved. Or maybe it'll flop. Guess we'll see.
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Patient 2428190
DEGRREE'Fo'FREE Internet Business School
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Posted - 2011.07.04 14:16:00 -
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I've had an account for a few months there, but I find it even harder to find the will to log in.
Plus its struggling a bit, so its only moments away from MT splurging in everywhere.
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Waylan Yutani
Gallente
Order of the Seraphim
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Posted - 2011.07.04 14:19:00 -
[37]
Originally by: Better Than You
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!
EVE-Online is an absolute dream compared to that game. That said, I can understand crappy players leaving in hopes to find something they might be good at.
Bye bye now, you all are already forgotten.
Yes, its most wicked. Allready got myself a Chribba, Sir molle and an Monkeysphere toon there. The names are going for 5 million nic
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Mr Kidd
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Posted - 2011.07.04 14:26:00 -
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Originally by: Better Than You
[b]HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!
Yeah, you know what's really funny? Trying to talk trash to people that, according to you, have left. How dumb can you be? BTW, get a monocle or STFU.
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Mya ElleTerego
Amarr
The Hull Miners Union
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Posted - 2011.07.04 14:33:00 -
[39]
Originally by: Electra GaafCramo
Edited by: Electra GaafCramo on 04/07/2011 13:35:46
/me aggrees strongly with OP.
Perpetuum is trying to become EVE, and they are failing hard on a few initial important steps. Each GM's has chars all over the place. GM's are the spies of this game. They are in lots of opposing corps. Worst thing is. They got these accounts for free.
Forget about PO, despite having a second revival, it's doomed to fail, with DEVs being so tight knit to old beta players, and seemingly not caring the least (except for the wallet) of new players.
m2s, a very famous corp in Perpetuum, is absolutely crawling with GM's. GM's having spies in all the corporations they fought. No wonder they kicked everyones ass time after time.
It is not a game, it is a show.
Going to have to actually call you out on this one, I was in M2S for about a week, the corp is more or less dead, they have like 1-2 dudes online entire US TZ and a few more in EU TZ, every charactor in that corp and all their alts that had been in for about a month or so before their ceo got caught duping, had their entire assets removed from the game. I mean completely cleaned out as if they remade their characters. People were banned, Devs laid the smack down hard, and more or less name and shamed them for it. Its not like what happened with say, t20 incident.. More like what happened with the evoke ferro dupe.
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Electra GaafCramo
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Posted - 2011.07.04 14:38:00 -
[40]
Originally by: Mya ElleTerego
Originally by: Electra GaafCramo
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Going to have to actually call you out on this one, I was in M2S for about a week, the corp is more or less dead, they have like 1-2 dudes online entire US TZ and a few more in EU TZ, every charactor in that corp and all their alts that had been in for about a month or so before their ceo got caught duping, had their entire assets removed from the game. I mean completely cleaned out as if they remade their characters. People were banned, Devs laid the smack down hard, and more or less name and shamed them for it. Its not like what happened with say, t20 incident.. More like what happened with the evoke ferro dupe.
Yeah, I heard that story about the fall of m2s. Glad to see it happen, though it was not their first time cheating, the other times were just thought as they used ingame mechanics.
Nevertheless, what I wrote about Perpetuum, in a prior post, is still true to the bone.
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Pubsey
54th Massachusetts Volunteer Infantry
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Posted - 2011.07.04 15:02:00 -
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I'm enjoying Perpetuum. Sure the UI is clunky and the graphics are meh but Eve never exactly blew me away in those areas either. The combat in really fun, dodging in and out of cover keeps even ratting tolerable, I could never standing ratting in Eve but it's interesting enough in Perp. Lots of the PVE is pitched for groups too so cash grinding isn't such a boring solo activity. Also, while they obviously borrow a hell of a lot from Eve they've added their own ideas too like teleport/docking mechanics, anti blob mechanics and of course line of sight keeps things dynamic and interesting.
It's nice to explore a fresh new sandbox and feel like a lost little newbie again.
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San Severina
Minmatar
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Posted - 2011.07.04 21:54:00 -
[42]
Originally by: Indusy
Originally by: San Severina
confirming OP is an idiot
The really important stuff is not how slick the UI or graphics are, they can be improved.
You don't need to write anything, save yourself some time. Just post your name in every topic and we could insert some random bash to EVE in the blank space.
Don't worry 8 days left & I'm gone.
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Hungry Eyes
Ministry of War
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Posted - 2011.07.04 21:59:00 -
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Edited by: Hungry Eyes on 04/07/2011 21:59:54
people coming back to their one true love, EVE, will become a distant memory once TOR and GW2 come out. you will see subs bleed en masse unless the CCP trolls re-establish the game's niche after years of not giving a damn.
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Maeve Nightside
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Posted - 2011.07.04 22:21:00 -
[44]
Originally by: Gwenywell Shumuku
Perpetuum Online - a very nice "EvEish" Game, but like 2003.
PROBLEM: they are already thinking about MT too, so, i didn't resub there.
One difference is the the Devs have said what CCP will not; No Non-Vanity Item. Period. Not any of this corp doublespeak BS of "well, we sort of might not have any plans for them until we sort of lie to you and put it in anyway".
Also, Perp is pretty cool. The PvP is way different, the industry is intriguing; That said, it has quite a ways to go on refinement of features. I wasn't around in 2003, but I like the fact it is a work in progress.
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Ehdward
Caldari
Nex Exercitus
Raiden.
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Posted - 2011.07.04 22:25:00 -
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I was turned off by the inability to do anything useful during the trial, as well as noob area NPCs taking four bajillion years to kill.
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Morgan Polaris
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Posted - 2011.07.04 23:19:00 -
[46]
Originally by: Enna Shendara
Perpetuum online has terrible graphics, a horrible UI and seems to glitch out a lot.
Reminds me of eve when I first started playing, really.
I'd also just like to say that Perpetuum basically ripped Eve off verbatim and inserted the word robot wherever they found the word spaceship, and yet they still managed to come up with a more interesting mining system.
Manufacturing is more interesting too (building prototype's or reverse engineer found items, then building calibration templates off of that to set up a manufacturing line), and PVP with obstacles and anti-blob mechanics is pretty refreshing.
UI is actually pretty good, it's very customizable and generally just clean and clear.
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ElOhEl
The 21st Exploratory Division
The Corcu Loigde Alliance
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Posted - 2011.07.04 23:43:00 -
[47]
Just wait, if you want to play that crap, you can play dust instead. just another boring first person shooter, mech warrior, whatever....
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RiskyFrisky
Interrobang Inc.
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Posted - 2011.07.04 23:48:00 -
[48]
Ohh look another coward behund an alt.
Your words are now meaningless. Enjoy making yourself look a fool.
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M3ph1sto
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Posted - 2011.07.05 00:05:00 -
[49]
Originally by: Gwenywell Shumuku
Perpetuum Online - a very nice "EvEish" Game, but like 2003.
PROBLEM: they are already thinking about MT too, so, i didn't resub there.
Unlike EVE, they are discussing it out in the open with VANITY items only! Read post #30
Proof
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Athena Tarsis
Minmatar
Sarz'na Khumatari
Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2011.07.05 01:04:00 -
[50]
Originally by: Hungry Eyes
Edited by: Hungry Eyes on 04/07/2011 21:59:54
people coming back to their one true love, EVE, will become a distant memory once TOR and GW2 come out. you will see subs bleed en masse unless the CCP trolls re-establish the game's niche after years of not giving a damn.
TOR is going to be popular for about 6 months, tops.
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Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
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Posted - 2011.07.05 01:09:00 -
[51]
People should have an open mind. Try new things. Enjoy the variety that the online gaming world has to offer.
But I have to ask myself. Why go join another game and then come here to tell everyone you did it?
I can think of no legitimate reason for this. I can think of plenty of reasons for it if the people doing it were 6 years old. But 6 year old shouldn't be playing EVE in the first place.
Please enlighten me as to why you feel the need to do this?
Mr Epeen
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Isky Iskerson
rIsky Ventures LLC
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Posted - 2011.07.05 06:05:00 -
[52]
I could care less about MT. Make it P2W and game dies. Otherwise it's just morons trying to outspend each other. I live on the West Coast of US, I'm used to that.
What ****es me off is that CCP has been pulling enough money to fund 2 other games, while EVE is left with so many fundamental flaws- like worst ui ever, too many clicks to do simple things that should be hot-keyed anyway (I'm talking to you cargo containers with your left clicking and right clicking and your make-out parties. Also talking to you targeting!), not to mention the fact I now have crows-feet and need glasses because I played for a year on a 24" HD monitor and had a passing whimsy of actually reading the stuff in front of me. And after YEARS and $1000s from me CCP still can't be bothered to either address the security issues and allow 3rd party addons or, god forbid, polish the existing layout or add some customization-ibility...
AND insult to injury, the games the ARE developing are a FPS on a console I don't have, and (what seems to me) and utterly stupid, pointless Vampire jerk-fest which could have been considered an interesting idea 4-5 years ago but is now so cliche as to be pathetic.
BTW yes I unsubed, and no, I intend to put all my stuff into Jet Cans and blow them up. I wouldn't care if your real lives depended on it I wouldn't share .01 Isk with any of you. It's for the best.
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Damien Klesk
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Posted - 2011.07.05 06:49:00 -
[53]
Originally by: Electra GaafCramo
not caring the least (except for the wallet) of new players.
Bull****, within 5 minutes of creating my trial I had a Dev convo me to see if I was getting on ok and to see if I had any questions.
2 of my buddies had the same experience.
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Ocih
Amarr
Space Mermaids
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Posted - 2011.07.05 07:10:00 -
[54]
I don't compare Perpetuum to EVE. I don't see the similarity. They both have RT skill systems. Beyond that, they are two completely different games. Even in that, Perpetuum has 525,600 EP a year. It's written in stone. 1 a minute, no debates.
They actually have a more complex Industrial game. You can't buy BPOs you need to reveal protype technology through PvE kills and then reverse engineer and redevelop that technology.
PvP is consent and flagged system. You can't at any point force me to PvP with you.
I've been there a week and a bit and I refuse to slag EVE. 8 years of longevity makes EVE a respected MMO. These guys are a nooblet, small group of developers who put a game together. It is no threat to EVE and is a benefit to this game. I'm not here *****ing and complaining how EVE fails and sucks. I go there, play thier game, enjoy it. Crash every hr from a memory leak and shrug it off. Its a good game, one I can play and pay for in addition to EVE. It won't replace EVE, not for me, not for the Genre and not for most who play EVE.
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Reloadin
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Posted - 2011.07.05 07:23:00 -
[55]
Originally by: San Severina
Don't worry 8 days left & I'm gone.
And there was much rejoicing.
Could you take AkJon with you?
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Grimpak
Gallente
The Whitehound Corporation
Frontline Assembly Point
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Posted - 2011.07.05 07:27:00 -
[56]
Originally by: Better Than You
Edited by: Better Than You on 04/07/2011 09:36:34
Originally by: Chribba
I think you mean Perpetuum-Online. Did you even try it?
/c
[maroon]I did the 14 day free trial. Logged in, laughed at the horrible splash screen graphics, went to the character creator, laughed uncontrollably at the horrible graphics, left the station and was meet with garbage for a UI. Then proceeded to laugh out loud and closed the program and quickly installed it.
Horrible game for horrible people. EVE-Online 4 life!![maroon]
good thing you weren't here back when eve started then!
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Carrion Regardless
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Posted - 2011.07.05 08:39:00 -
[57]
You know what the really sad thing is? CCP could have have developed something like this along side EVE instead of DUST. Imagine an extension of PI and having to create a crew of "Planeteers" to go get T2 / POS materials.
I was also contacted by a GM within ten minutes of starting the game, offering advice and asking if I had any issues. It was a nice touch and made me feel welcome. The "Ex-eve" channel currently runs at no lower (when I've logged on at least) than 100 players, and I have seen the server get up to around the 850 mark of players online. That is an increase of almost 50% since 21st June (I wonder what happend then?).
There was lag at first, probably from the shock of so many signing up so quickly, but a patch to fix it was implemented very quickly AND everyone got some free days subscription for their inconvience.
As one of the P-O devs said:
"Obviously many of you have been burnt by false promises which results in general distrust towards game companies. I'm not here to ask your trust, how could I, this is just a devblog, not a contract. I'm merely asking you to judge us by our past, present and future actions. We are very much aware what happens when you play with the trust of your customers."
Improved CCP communications would help themselves in fulfilling this, but then again so would investing some development effort in fixing and making good on promises already made to improve gameplay and fix existing issues.
Fly Safe !!!
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Lyrrashae
Minmatar
Crushed Ambitions
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Posted - 2011.07.05 13:00:00 -
[58]
Originally by: democrities
It's easy for a dev to listen to customers when you only have 500 of them.
This.
Says it all, right there. But, by the same token, someone really needs to remind CCP that they can indeed do a great deal wrong, and that their **** does, indeed, smell just as bad as everyone else's.
Apropos nothing else whatsoever, I was all rarin' ta go, fired up to try Perp-O, but, then, objectivity returned, and everything--And I do mean everything--I saw of that game just left me underwhelmed*. Profoundly so.
Sorry, funsters, but I need a little depth in my pixel-universe, even if it is informed by as many sci-fi tropes as EVE is (In all fairness, though, it's pretty damned hard to get away from that in this day and age.).
*Hey, Perp-O devs, could you be a little less subtle about thief'ing another game's whole damned UI in future--I think a few blind and/or dead people might have missed that. In the words of Sol Burke, "Champion!"
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Lyrrashae
Minmatar
Crushed Ambitions
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Posted - 2011.07.05 13:05:00 -
[59]
Originally by: Suitonia
[...] they've succeeded in creating the impossible. A UI that is somehow worse than eves.
Well, they say that imitation is the sincerest form of flattery--And I'd be feeling quite flattered indeed if I were a CCP UI-dev and just got a look at that game.
<cynicism>
Even more so if it's true what I've been hearing, and that Perp-O was started by a bunch of disgruntled ex-Goons...I must say, that is an absolutely delightful irony, especially in hindsight of the last 2 weeks, if true.
</cynicism>
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Kevric
Lament of the Phoenix
The Covenant.
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Posted - 2011.07.05 13:29:00 -
[60]
Hey guys . . . did you know it's possible to like both Eve and P-O?
It's true!!
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Karen Naabal
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Posted - 2011.07.05 13:30:00 -
[61]
ITT:
******s.
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Gillaboo
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Posted - 2011.07.05 13:37:00 -
[62]
Originally by: ElOhEl
Just wait, if you want to play that crap, you can play dust instead. just another boring first person shooter, mech warrior, whatever....
Except that I have no desire to own, much less purchase, a PS3 and fill SONY's pockets ... nevermind feed CCP's dreams of it's own MT-fuelled empire.
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James Vayne
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Posted - 2011.07.05 13:38:00 -
[63]
Originally by: Better Than You
Edited by: Better Than You on 04/07/2011 09:36:34
Originally by: Chribba
I think you mean Perpetuum-Online. Did you even try it?
/c
[maroon]I did the 14 day free trial. Logged in, laughed at the horrible splash screen graphics, went to the character creator, laughed uncontrollably at the horrible graphics, left the station and was meet with garbage for a UI. Then proceeded to laugh out loud and closed the program and quickly installed it.
Horrible game for horrible people. EVE-Online 4 life!![maroon]
Hilmar, is that you?
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MurKoN Kador Mahyisti
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Posted - 2011.07.05 13:41:00 -
[64]
YES i aggree too OP is a complete and utter IDIOT!
Didn't this idiot start a similar thread about the monocle and was wearing one??
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Equus Toomp
Caldari
A Humble Abode
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Posted - 2011.07.05 13:41:00 -
[65]
Whats all the fuss about MT? I mean, isn't it optional? Or do I HAVE to buy a monocle to fly my ship in future.
Apart from an extra click to open my cargo bays I don't think CQ or the Barbie Center has changed my game play at all.
Eve is great.
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FatSheriff
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Posted - 2011.07.05 13:43:00 -
[66]
i tried perpetuum online this morning.
wasnt leaving eve just thought i would =) it burned my eyes.
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MurKoN Kador Mahyisti
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Posted - 2011.07.05 13:43:00 -
[67]
Originally by: James Vayne
Originally by: Better Than You
Edited by: Better Than You on 04/07/2011 09:36:34
Originally by: Chribba
I think you mean Perpetuum-Online. Did you even try it?
/c
[maroon]I did the 14 day free trial. Logged in, laughed at the horrible splash screen graphics, went to the character creator, laughed uncontrollably at the horrible graphics, left the station and was meet with garbage for a UI. Then proceeded to laugh out loud and closed the program and quickly installed it.
Horrible game for horrible people. EVE-Online 4 life!![maroon]
Hilmar, is that you?
LOL, U R probs right
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Maddi5on
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Posted - 2011.07.05 13:47:00 -
[68]
Originally by: Atari Gene
Originally by: Blane Xero
Edited by: Blane Xero on 04/07/2011 09:37:08
umad
Originally by: Better Than You
Originally by: Chribba
I think you mean Perpetuum-Online. Did you even try it?
/c
[maroon][b]I did the 14 day free trial. Logged in, laughed at the horrible splash screen graphics, went to the character creator, laughed uncontrollably at the horrible graphics, left the station and was meet with garbage for a UI. Then proceeded to laugh out loud and closed the program and quickly installed it.
Horrible game for horrible people. EVE-Online 4 life!!
So in short, you're one of those "Graphics is everything" morons. Right.
You never really tried the game at all, don't kid yourself.
Yup pretty much sums up the guy. He like em space barbies
Nothing wrong with space barbies
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Mspaine
Amarr
Eternal Guardians
Bloodbound.
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Posted - 2011.07.05 13:49:00 -
[69]
Originally by: San Severina
confirming OP is an idiot
The really important stuff is not how slick the UI or graphics are, they can be improved.
Yeah, the pathing issues in "that" game are completely non-existant. So's all the blocked path due to "elevation".
Also its totaly within anyones reach to make T3 items or greater as the market totaly isnt dead and the items required to build it are totaly being sold and not kept for personal use by the people whom can actualy obtain them
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myalt
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Posted - 2011.07.05 13:57:00 -
[70]
When this new game opens to the public, Microsoft will send in their lawyers to remind the company that they own the whole concept of 'mechs' 'mechwarriors' and customizable robots, and MS will take over the game or shut it down.
:D
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Lady Go Diveher
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Posted - 2011.07.05 14:05:00 -
[71]
Some brief issues with Perpetuum:
- Graphics are terrible and laggy
- Industry is an utter chore. You essentially need multiple accounts to even cover the basics; one to grind PVE and the other to actually do the industry. At which point, you're making enough to keep the PVE character in mods and ammo .. see the problem?
- PVE is poor. All the 'rats' have too much EHP which just makes it excessively boring. It's also a waste of ammo (which is gold dust, btw)
- It's basically Eve online for everyone who was told to "GO BACK TO WOW!!" as that is what you'll find here. You can't engage in non-consensual PVP of any kind. You can't even shoot someone unless they give you permisssion
Yeh .. I could rant on. There are some pretty fundamental problems with the game that far outway any comments on the graphics.
Aside from all that, the mere fact it is a complete rip off of eve makes me unable to give the devs any respect at all.
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Mspaine
Amarr
Eternal Guardians
Bloodbound.
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Posted - 2011.07.05 14:11:00 -
[72]
Originally by: myalt
When this new game opens to the public, Microsoft will send in their lawyers to remind the company that they own the whole concept of 'mechs' 'mechwarriors' and customizable robots, and MS will take over the game or shut it down.
:D
Actualy, Microsoft sold the rights back to its origional owners, whom are now known as "Smith and Tinker" and "Piranah Games"
They've allready got a new game in the works - "Mechwarrior Reloaded"
Which - this will come as an utter surprise!! Is currently in limbo due to a copyright claim by the Robotech owners as they used a Warhammer im their feature video!
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