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Simetraz
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Posted - 2011.09.29 01:17:00 -
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Alright a little reality check.
First off killing an alliance mate can ony be authorized by the ruling councel of the alliance or the ceo/director of the person being targeted..
Nothing weird there pretty normal practice actually.
Someone breaks the rules you report them to leadership and hope they tell you to pod them.
As far as the bit that states if you report any member of GSF for botting you will be kicked.
Well all things considered, that in of itself is actually within their rights.
(CCP does not enforce corp or alliances rules in regaurds to recruiting or removal of members)
As for the rest, well that is up to CCP.
All things considered if the OP was really concerned they should have sent the message to CCP under a petition and let them figure it out.
Instead they posted it on the forums.
To that I say TROLL........
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Simetraz
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Posted - 2011.09.29 05:04:00 -
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The Apostle wrote:
Either they are responsible for bot reporting/management and must pay the penalty (as an alliance) if caught or they are not and must allow the individual do their thing without fear of retribution due to corp policy if they do.
Alliances are not responsible for the actions of an individual.
You can't ban a 100 or 6000 person alliance because a Corporation in that alliance has a botter.
You can ban the botter.
Yes GSF leadership is once again showing there poor character, no surprise there.
But nobody can force you to do anything in this game.
IF your alliance has a no report policy you have 3 choices.
1. Leave the alliance (and report it to CCP)
2. Don't look for botters so you aren't put in that position. (you would surprised how many people turn a blind eye)
3. Do what the alliance leaders say.
If you want GSF banned as a whole it is not going to happen and they are not the only alliance with botters.
End of story.
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Simetraz
State War Academy
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Posted - 2011.09.29 05:42:00 -
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The Apostle wrote:Quote:Alliances are not responsible for the actions of an individual. Correct. Except Goons HAVE assumed responsibility by saying "Thou shalt only report to thy leadership". Since when did Goons (or anyone) start accepting responsibility for actions against EULA violations? They are VERY quick to say it's CCP's problem ("we're not cops for CCP") but disallow CCP intervention as a policy.
Wrong
A person or persons in the Goon leadership have stated, not the alliance.
And once again it comes down to I am telling you go jump off that bridge.
My response is, that is nice you first.
Now if player (A) reported player (B) for botting to director (C)
Can any of the above be banned.
NO
IT is all talk, and nothing more.
CCP makes the determination if a person is a Botter not the players.
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Simetraz
State War Academy
Caldari State
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Posted - 2011.09.29 05:50:00 -
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TheBadMan wrote:Im soon to be kicked for shootin blues so ill share some sekrets:
Only dumb goons bot in goonswarm fed. We teamed up with DRF ages ago and run big bot teams in the dronelands. You dont get invited to the drone botting crew until you are somewhat trusted so the problems here are more to do with the newbloods.
Top tier goons do not bot because our ccp insiders have hooked up some great 'perks'. If you submit invention jobs in dek with a certain item as a part of the job you get a guaranteed bpc return x10. There is also a key combination you can press when in the refine screen which gives 600% returns. Only the illuminati get access to these though for obvious reasons. Mittens retired so early because his sweet RMT empire which has been funded by these perks. I heard he is on his way to owning a nice property in the Sechelles.
Really botting is nothing compared to whats really going on!!
ANd the best part about this whole thing is Goon's was the loudest screamers about BOB and there evil ways.
And now you could say Goon's screamed cause BOB was in the way of the Goonies own projects.
DOn't forget to report all this to internal affairs.
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Simetraz
State War Academy
Caldari State
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Posted - 2011.09.29 06:10:00 -
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Apollo-Moor wrote:
I know you can't be this blind or ignorant or just plain stupid. The point being made here is that the botter would not be reported. Saying "Come tell us and we'll handle it.." is bullshit. It will just be swept under the rug and nothing done about it except for a few Goon boardroom lulz..
They also give a sense in so many words that if you report them its like "snitching" to CCP. This is false, you aren't going to tell some Reds about how you're coming to take their space and how you plan on doing it. You are reporting someone who is abusing/cheating in the game. Its outside the spectrum of breaking your loyalty to the Alliance. It's getting heaters.out of a game that does not allow/accept this type of "cheating".. CCP gives you an inch you scabs take a mile and null with it..
You need to reread my posts, you are obviously misinterpreting.
Oh and I will except your apology for the above accusations, you crossed the line there.
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Simetraz
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Posted - 2011.09.29 23:00:00 -
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The Apostle wrote: .......
You need to let this go.
This topic would have gone alot farther and been alot more productive if you would have not pointed fingers.
Even your title is set up to inflame, you could have said 0.0 Alliance "legalising" Botting!!
Nobody is argueing that what was done was questionable.
But that is CCP's call on what to do about it and if it is bannable.
You need to report it and move on.
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