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Rashmika Clavain
Shadows Of The Federation Drunk 'n' Disorderly
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Posted - 2012.09.17 13:28:00 -
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Gillia Winddancer wrote:Crrrazy Ivan wrote:The main reason I play an MMO is to immerse myself into the role playing aspect and become something in game that I am not in real life. Just because I chose the life of a pirate in game does not mean that I sail the high seas with Somali pirates off the coast of Africa. That would be rather amusing though :p
Do you get 3G off the coast of Africa? |
No More Heroes
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1393
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Posted - 2012.09.17 13:29:00 -
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John Ratcliffe wrote:Yawn.
I don't know what's more boring, another thread about how benevolent Goon Swarm are or another thread about VR.
You're right, let's have some more mining articles. How about some revolutionary isk/hr opportunites in grinding L4's?
Yaar! . |
Destiny Corrupted
Deadly Viper Kitten Mitten Sewing Company
909
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Posted - 2012.09.17 13:43:00 -
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I donate half of my paychecks to orphanages, but only so they have a greater sense of loss when I burn them down. (USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST) |
Oxylan
Fuss Roo Dah
19
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Posted - 2012.09.17 13:50:00 -
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Gillia Winddancer wrote:Generally people tend to take on a different persona over the net, but that said persona is always based to a small degree on your true self. It doesn't mean that you're an ******* in RL if you act as one in a game like EVE, but on the other hand your true self still gets a kick from it, right? It's not a matter of hard case yes or no's but rather the degree.
There is no such thing as a complete different personality, with the exception if you happen to suffer from DID.
In most cases (in other RPG or online games) games who offer short-mid game play length people realy play as other persona etc, in fact EvE is long therm hardcore online social game, people cant lie to other and lie your self , even they play as other persona with other goal, most of hardcore long therm players are same in game like in real life, if somone is bad in RL he will show own true face etc, but in fact even old player who is cool in RL may scam others and do horible things to players, well its only game, but i agree with you. If it bleed we can kill it. |
Mattie Silks
House of Mirrors
1
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Posted - 2012.09.17 13:56:00 -
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Jori McKie wrote:Poetic Stanziel wrote:I think this site sums up the heartfelt generosity of a group of people who are generally seen by a certain segment of EVE's population as misanthropic, degenerate, narcissistic and bordering on the psychopathic. Donations are certainly coming from people from outside Goonswarm, but certainly most of the donations are coming from the very people who served under and flew with Vile Rat. $23000 donated in under 24 hours. Charity and philanthropy are not hallmarks of psychopathic narcissists, especially when said philanthropy is anonymous and without obligation. Kudos to Goonswarm and all the other degenerates who are helping the family of Sean Smith/Vile Rat. The world of EVE Online and the world outside EVE Online could do with more of your ilk. Can't stress the donation link enough. this site
Said link has now been shared with some of his State Department co-workers as well, who I am sure will add to the contributions. |
Muad 'dib
The Imperial Fedaykin
504
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Posted - 2012.09.17 14:18:00 -
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not all true,
Met some real online jerks in RL that turned out to be fairly quiet types, angry on the inside in RL possibly, but not to other people. http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/4375/mynewsig2.jpg |
Nexus Day
Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic
44
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Posted - 2012.09.17 14:32:00 -
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Some people are born or grow up immoral, others lose it one razor thin slice at a time.
And blaming the victim of a scam or crime for the crime is like telling a woman "she shouldn't have worn that dress". People should not look to take advantage of others.
I applaud the charity of the Goonswarm. On the other hand I am sure they cost the community the same amount on an annual basis, one razor thin slice at a time. So while I appreciate the help to the widow of a Goonswarm Alliance member, she is an innocent, I still look at it as a net zero equation for the Swarm. |
Metal Icarus
Endless Destruction Against ALL Anomalies
283
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Posted - 2012.09.17 14:52:00 -
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Is OP really trying to make Goonswarm look better by linking something that has nothing to do with the game, to them? IRL stuff has no link to in game stuff, Goonswarm still deserve to be podded.
Just because they are human and started a drive for VR's family does not absolve them of all their sins.
Besides that, he was apart of their alliance too so please tell us how nice and generous they are when they still pod you even though you donate to VR's charity.
(in b4: "we make charity! derp give us your isk! we will double it! SEE OUR CHARITY??? WE HONEST!!!")
EDIT: I mean offence to anyone, just sayin that Goons gonna goon. |
Jake Warbird
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
1717
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Posted - 2012.09.17 15:00:00 -
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People donated money because they lost a mate... I don't think Goons give two ***** about what anyone thinks of them. |
Bienator II
madmen of the skies
877
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Posted - 2012.09.17 15:06:00 -
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so i am wondering. are most eve players professional actors?
I completly understand that behaving differently in virtual worlds as in RL is part of the fun but it ends at a certain point.
just saw a yt vid yesterday where someone canflipped noobs in a tutorial mission. For those things IMO is simply no excuse and its probably part of the players personality. Roleplay or not. a eve-style bounty system https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=359105 You fail you fail you fail you fail you fail you fail you fail to jump because you are cloaked |
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Jonah Gravenstein
1304
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Posted - 2012.09.17 15:29:00 -
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Bienator II wrote:so i am wondering. are most eve players professional actors?
I completly understand that behaving differently in virtual worlds as in RL is part of the fun but it ends at a certain point.
just saw a yt vid yesterday where someone canflipped noobs in a tutorial mission. For those things IMO is simply no excuse and its probably part of the players personality. Roleplay or not.
That is actually quite despicable, it's also classified as griefing noobs and an offence that will get the offender banned if it is reported.
CCP can't patch stupid. |
FloppieTheBanjoClown
The Skunkworks The Marmite Collective
2399
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Posted - 2012.09.17 15:36:00 -
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In other news, actors are just as good or bad as the characters they play on screen. The Skunkworks is recruiting. -áhttps://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1540711#post1540711 |
Lord Zim
1503
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Posted - 2012.09.17 15:38:00 -
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Metal Icarus wrote:does not absolve them of all their sins. Tell us more about our sins. |
Klymer
Hedion University Amarr Empire
39
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Posted - 2012.09.17 15:44:00 -
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I like PA's take on the issue
NSFW
..only some bad language, but I figure I should warm people just in case.
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SealteamXI
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
1
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Posted - 2012.09.17 15:47:00 -
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OP is correct dependant on definitions of "arse". |
Wacktopia
Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group
260
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Posted - 2012.09.17 15:55:00 -
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OP, what you're doing here is taking someone else's opinion and turning it into fact.
The most you could do here is ask it in the question form. The bottom line is that now I have one of those annoying signatures. |
Corwain
Tea And Sympathy Ltd. Liability Reckless Ambition
3
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Posted - 2012.09.17 16:40:00 -
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Rengerel en Distel wrote:The real question is whether being a rabid attention ***** on the forums means you're a rabid attention ***** in real life. I'll await the blog post with the answer.
Who is the bigger *****, the clown, or the boring shmucks he entertains? |
Jenn aSide
Smokin Aces.
223
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Posted - 2012.09.17 17:00:00 -
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To play devil's advocate, some people who are massive A-holes in game are indeed the exact same people in real life, and I know a null-sec leader FC or 70 that would fit that bill lol. IMO most (but not all) people tend towards behavior that makes them the most comfortable with how they see themsevles, even when "it's just a game". I'm no exception, I have zero interest in scamming or stealing or in real life and don't find those activities funin EVE, but I understand that this game would suck without people doing that stuff
Because people do nasty things in EVE doesn't mean they are nasty people, it just probably means "this is who you WOULD be in real life if there were no physical or social consequences to your actions". EVE is no different than the comments section of a news site where people talk all kinds of crap they would not say in real life. |
Paul Oliver
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
2859
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Posted - 2012.09.17 17:07:00 -
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I don't roleplay very well and I have no desire to inflict misery on others in real life or as a psychological outlet in a video game, so this is just me being me, for better or worse. "Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom must undergo the fatigues of supporting it." - Thomas Paine |
Poetic Stanziel
Fweddit I Whip My Slaves Back and Forth
1190
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Posted - 2012.09.17 17:11:00 -
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Sarah Schneider wrote:Posting in a blog traffic promotion thread. The entire post is in the head of the thread. Nobody has to click to the blog at all. A poor way to promote blog traffic. Caldari Militia |
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Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
4622
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Posted - 2012.09.17 17:17:00 -
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I'm a really nice person in game, but a total **** out of it.
Where does that leave your internet psychologist theorising now? Malcanis' Law: Any proposal justified on the basis that "it will benefit new players" is invariably to the greater advantage of older, richer players.
Things to do in EVE:-áhttp://swiftandbitter.com/eve/wtd/ |
Paul Oliver
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
2862
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Posted - 2012.09.17 17:19:00 -
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Malcanis wrote:I'm a really nice person in game, but a total **** out of it.
Where does that leave your internet psychologist theorising now? Perhaps you're nice in game because of a guilty conscience that believes one can somehow atone for being a real life dipstick through random acts of kindness in a virtual universe?
"Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom must undergo the fatigues of supporting it." - Thomas Paine |
Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
4622
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Posted - 2012.09.17 17:20:00 -
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Nope, I just do it to mess with the heads of idiots who think that simplistic statements can sum up complex realities. Malcanis' Law: Any proposal justified on the basis that "it will benefit new players" is invariably to the greater advantage of older, richer players.
Things to do in EVE:-áhttp://swiftandbitter.com/eve/wtd/ |
Paul Oliver
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
2862
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Posted - 2012.09.17 17:25:00 -
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Malcanis wrote:Nope, I just do it to mess with the heads of idiots who think that simplistic statements can sum up complex realities. Isn't that what the razor is for?
"Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom must undergo the fatigues of supporting it." - Thomas Paine |
Too-Boku
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
27
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Posted - 2012.09.17 17:26:00 -
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Eve Online and the emergent gameplay therein; is a product of our society. In the 60's decisions were made with far-reaching impacts that are coming to harvest today. Removing the bible from schools and the outlaw of mentioning of God anywhere in public.
Legal and easy abortions which were intended to be safe and rare. Are now used as a major form of birth control. Liberal democratic policies which promotes the idea of "you are your own God, there is no other, do what you wish."
I for one, am stunned at the self-righteous, moral high ground that soo many take in regards to this game, whereas our society is demanding that morals be tossed to the wind. What is good and what is evil? Who decides if there is no God? No higher authority than ourselves? |
Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
4622
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Posted - 2012.09.17 17:53:00 -
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Too-Boku wrote:Eve Online and the emergent gameplay therein; is a product of our society. In the 60's decisions were made with far-reaching impacts that are coming to harvest today. Removing the bible from schools and the outlaw of mentioning of God anywhere in public.
Oh you mean the massive and sustained drop in violent crime we've seen over the last couple of decades?
Well I suppose with the amount of gratuitous and bloody violence, ****, slavery, incest, theft, treachery and child-murder in the Bible, it's hardly surprising that removing such a rich source of bad ideas has had such a positive result. Malcanis' Law: Any proposal justified on the basis that "it will benefit new players" is invariably to the greater advantage of older, richer players.
Things to do in EVE:-áhttp://swiftandbitter.com/eve/wtd/ |
Natasha Taggart
1
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Posted - 2012.09.17 18:02:00 -
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Too-Boku wrote:Eve Online and the emergent gameplay therein; is a product of our society. In the 60's decisions were made with far-reaching impacts that are coming to harvest today. Removing the bible from schools and the outlaw of mentioning of God anywhere in public.
Legal and easy abortions which were intended to be safe and rare. Are now used as a major form of birth control. Liberal democratic policies which promotes the idea of "you are your own God, there is no other, do what you wish."
I for one, am stunned at the self-righteous, moral high ground that soo many take in regards to this game, whereas our society is demanding that morals be tossed to the wind. What is good and what is evil? Who decides if there is no God? No higher authority than ourselves?
You sound like my CEO, hes a stand up guy in/out of game and freaking difficult to deal with sometimes because of it sometimes. I almost wish some days he was a pirate or scammer!!! ROFL
I agree, whatever someone plays is normally an insight into personality, but you cant say that sort of thing without it basically being wrong... RP is a good example of this, Im a gal but not Gallente, and I play as "myself" since Idont like RP much... so whatever... we need everyone to make this work. Bring it on u freaky rats and scams! |
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ISD Suvetar
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
85
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Posted - 2012.09.17 18:17:00 -
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Thread cleaned a bit.
It's an interesting topic, but lets keep it on topic and not try and sidetrack into politics and so on.
Thanks and fly safe! ISD Suvetar Captain Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department |
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FloppieTheBanjoClown
The Skunkworks The Marmite Collective
2401
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Posted - 2012.09.17 18:52:00 -
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ISD Suvetar wrote: fly safe! ...and if I refuse?
The Skunkworks is recruiting. -áhttps://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1540711#post1540711 |
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
2420
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Posted - 2012.09.17 18:58:00 -
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So the theory some of you support is that if you are a jerk in game, it is a reflection of your true character.
I have characters in game that are very helpful to other players and do not vary from that behavior (this one is one of them), I have characters in game that are ruthless and cruel and do not vary from that behavior, I have characters in game that are completely selfish and only motivated (for good or ill) by greed. So which of these character types, that do not change their MO, are actually a refection of my "real" self? If you pick one, then what does that say about the others... other than to invalidate your theory?
I ran pen and paper RPG's for a decade or so. In doing so I portrayed everything from a celibate holy man to a bloodlust filled demon, to an innocent child. Which one of those acurately reflects my true personality... and once you have chosen one, how do you explain the others?
For several years I was involved in acting. During that time I portrayed the hero, the villian, and occasionally the villian that becomes a hero. What does that do to your little theory?
You fail to realize that often in games or professions that allow portraying something other than yourself a good person can find enjoyment pretending to be something they are not... as can a person that in your piously judgemental way you consider a bad person enjoy playing the humanitarian.
Life, morality, and human behavior are not... and never will be... as simplistic and easy to define as apparently you would like to believe.
To carve a successful niche for yourself in EVE you need to be able to out sell, out produce, out fight,-á out run, or out wit your competitors. If you can do none of the above, your only option is to complain on the forums that somehow you are at a disadvantage using the exact same tool set-áas the rest of the player base. |
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