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Iam Widdershins
Project Nemesis Moar Tears
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Posted - 2011.09.28 22:30:00 -
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This is a repost of an old-forum thread. When submitted to CCP support, I was told that it seems like a good idea, and they like it, but they want more forum support or something before they went through with it. Many supports later, nothing happened.
After the Incursion 1.6 patch introducing the new UI framework, I was very pleased to see that they changed the way Cloaking Devices were shown in the HUD. Activated cloaks had a full module timer around them, essentially a white circle highlighting them and making it much easier to see when they were active.
http://img856.imageshack.us/img856/9646/cloakcircle.jpg
When I first saw this, I was very pleased. Cloaks are an important thing to be able to see at a glance, and since they are basically the only active module without a timer you have to stare at it for a second or two to see if it is softly pulsing green or not. With the full module timer circle around it, you can see whether your cloak is on or not from across the room, or in an instant's glance -- a measurable improvement to usability with no drawbacks.
Thus, it was with consternation that I saw the patch notes for 1.6.1 include a fix for "the module highlighting for Covert Ops Cloaking Device II (and similar)". I'd mistakenly assumed that it was an intentional change by some enterprising dev that thought of the fix to something that had only annoyed me a couple seconds at a time, never long enough to actually think of suggesting the change.
At the behest of CCP Arcade from CCP Customer Support, I bring to you the proposition/suggestion/petition/demand that CCP bring this bugFeature back with the next patch. It comes across to me as one of those small polishes that really make a a good UI come together. With all the work CCP is planning to do in improving the UI in upcoming months, I'd be sorry to see something this easy fall by the wayside.
What do YOU think?
TL;DR CCP MADE A NICE CHANGE THEN REMOVED IT AGAIN, PLEASE BRING IT BACK KTHX
Comment, support, check out the sister thread. |

Pattern Clarc
Aperture Harmonics
88
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Posted - 2011.09.28 22:35:00 -
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I support the initiative. Unless it was broke, it should be re-implemented. Ex CSM member & Designer of the Tornado. Gallente - Pilot satisfaction |

Shalee Lianne
Knighthood of the Merciful Crown
18
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Posted - 2011.09.29 05:04:00 -
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+1 http://amarrian.blogspot.com/ -á~ Roleplay blog.http://sovereigntywars.wordpress.com/ ~ Faction War blog. |

Solinuas
Beyond Evil and Good
2
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Posted - 2011.09.29 06:12:00 -
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Support, i have given some |

killorbekilled TBE
Dare Bears Finis Terrae
1
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Posted - 2011.09.30 15:16:00 -
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i say bring it back |

Lucy Alfrir
The Lost Shadows Circle of the Shadows
0
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Posted - 2011.09.30 17:48:00 -
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I've nearly lost a ship because this Feature was removed
+1 |

Iam Widdershins
Project Nemesis Moar Tears
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Posted - 2011.09.30 17:51:00 -
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Lucy Alfrir wrote:I've nearly lost a ship because this Feature was removed
+1 And it was only there for three days or so! Quite a tale. I believe it, though. |

shadowace00007
Beyond The Gates Tri Sol Syndicate
5
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Posted - 2011.09.30 18:52:00 -
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+1
Born Amarrian Raised Minmatar. |

Veronica Kerrigan
Hand Of Midas F0RCEFUL ENTRY
1
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Posted - 2011.10.01 05:21:00 -
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+1 |

SanitySlayer Amarrian
Pioneer's of the Galantic Wars IMPERIAL LEGI0N
1
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Posted - 2011.10.01 06:39:00 -
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+1 |

Sobaan Tali
Caldari Quick Reaction Force
2
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Posted - 2011.10.01 12:05:00 -
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I don't use cloaks that much but I can see this so-called bug or feature or what ever it sould be called as quite useful. I agree, put it back where you found it, CCP.
Oh, and +1 |

Iam Widdershins
Project Nemesis Moar Tears
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Posted - 2011.10.03 07:01:00 -
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Publicity bump! |

Mirak Nijoba
Gamers Corner United Manufacturing and Technology Alliance
0
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Posted - 2011.10.03 09:21:00 -
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Great Idea,
It's simple and Effective...
If it's an Activation Module it should have a Green Pulse/Timer on it showing if it's on and running or if it's off. Thus people can like most things in eve, walk away if need be to use the restroom or do something else when waiting.
+1 OP |

Iam Widdershins
Project Nemesis Moar Tears
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Posted - 2011.10.03 09:41:00 -
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Mirak Nijoba wrote:Great Idea,
It's simple and Effective...
If it's an Activation Module it should have a Green Pulse/Timer on it showing if it's on and running or if it's off. Thus people can like most things in eve, walk away if need be to use the restroom or do something else when waiting.
+1 OP Not sure you understood what I posted, but thanks for the +1 |

Iam Widdershins
FODT
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Posted - 2011.10.05 06:35:00 -
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Publicity bump! |

Lord Wamphyri
Starside Lost
58
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Posted - 2011.10.05 08:54:00 -
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+1 from me, also free bump :) |

Anshio Tamark
Avitus Lugus
3
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Posted - 2011.10.05 21:53:00 -
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CCP should've left it alone as it were, when we had that white ring... +1 from me. |

Iam Widdershins
Ironclad Forge
31
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Posted - 2011.10.07 23:05:00 -
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Publicity bump; I lost count at 20 something supports. |

Iam Widdershins
Ironclad Forge
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Posted - 2011.10.10 13:14:00 -
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Bamp! |

Iam Widdershins
Project Nemesis Moar Tears
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Posted - 2011.10.16 12:09:00 -
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ohmygoodness, bump. |

Mag's
the united Negative Ten.
572
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Posted - 2011.10.16 12:13:00 -
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Yea it was neat while it lasted.
Funny how this 'it's a feature' was so quickly removed, when it actually was a good one. CCP Zulu.....Forcing players to dock at the captain's quarters is a form of what we actually wanted to get through, which is making Incarna a seamless part of the EVE Online experience. |

Wacktopia
Sicarius. Legion of The Damned.
12
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Posted - 2011.10.16 12:18:00 -
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/support |

Iam Widdershins
Ironclad Forge
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Posted - 2011.10.23 10:28:00 -
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Their tops are made out of rubber, their bottoms are made out of springs, they're bouncy bouncy bouncy bouncy fun fun fun fun bump |

Anshio Tamark
Avitus Lugus
13
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Posted - 2011.10.23 11:58:00 -
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Mag's wrote:Yea it was neat while it lasted.
Funny how this 'it's a feature' was so quickly removed, when it actually was a good one. And a liked one at that, whether intended or not. |

Iam Widdershins
Ironclad Forge
54
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Posted - 2011.10.23 12:29:00 -
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Anshio Tamark wrote:Mag's wrote:Yea it was neat while it lasted.
Funny how this 'it's a feature' was so quickly removed, when it actually was a good one. And a liked one at that, whether intended or not. Well in this case, CCP actually did 'oops' this bug, then didn't manage to 're-oops' it and declare it a feature as we would have liked. |

Herman Klaus
Touched By Klaus
5
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Posted - 2011.10.26 02:37:00 -
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++11 |

Sinooko
The Night Wardens Viro Mors Non Est
8
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Posted - 2011.10.26 03:18:00 -
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+1 |

Ribaldry
11
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Posted - 2011.10.27 02:37:00 -
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+1 |

Apollo Gabriel
Mercatoris Etherium Cartel
103
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Posted - 2011.10.27 02:39:00 -
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Iam Widdershins wrote:This is a repost of an old-forum thread. When submitted to CCP support, I was told that it seems like a good idea, and they like it, but they want more forum support or something before they went through with it. Many supports later, nothing happened. After the Incursion 1.6 patch introducing the new UI framework, I was very pleased to see that they changed the way Cloaking Devices were shown in the HUD. Activated cloaks had a full module timer around them, essentially a white circle highlighting them and making it much easier to see when they were active. http://img856.imageshack.us/img856/9646/cloakcircle.jpgWhen I first saw this, I was very pleased. Cloaks are an important thing to be able to see at a glance, and since they are basically the only active module without a timer you have to stare at it for a second or two to see if it is softly pulsing green or not. With the full module timer circle around it, you can see whether your cloak is on or not from across the room, or in an instant's glance -- a measurable improvement to usability with no drawbacks. Thus, it was with consternation that I saw the patch notes for 1.6.1 include a fix for "the module highlighting for Covert Ops Cloaking Device II (and similar)". I'd mistakenly assumed that it was an intentional change by some enterprising dev that thought of the fix to something that had only annoyed me a couple seconds at a time, never long enough to actually think of suggesting the change. At the behest of CCP Arcade from CCP Customer Support, I bring to you the proposition/suggestion/petition/demand that CCP bring this bugFeature back with the next patch. It comes across to me as one of those small polishes that really make a a good UI come together. With all the work CCP is planning to do in improving the UI in upcoming months, I'd be sorry to see something this easy fall by the wayside. What do YOU think?TL;DR CCP MADE A NICE CHANGE THEN REMOVED IT AGAIN, PLEASE BRING IT BACK KTHXComment, support, check out the sister thread.
I too thought it was intentional and loved it. New Player "boost" https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=243993#post243993 Mining + War Decks = yummy! https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=25608&find=unread |

Barbara Nichole
Cryogenic Consultancy Black Sun Alliance
31
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Posted - 2011.10.27 04:18:00 -
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seems like kind of a waste of effort to me. [IMG]http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a208/DawnFrostbringer/OldST.jpg[/IMG] |

Iam Widdershins
Project Nemesis Moar Tears
101
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Posted - 2011.11.03 15:43:00 -
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Bumpage~ |

Xenial Jesse Taalo
Tactical Nyan Cat Attack Force OMNIMODUS ALLIANCE
12
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Posted - 2011.11.04 11:08:00 -
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+1 |

Iam Widdershins
Project Nemesis Moar Tears
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Posted - 2011.11.08 12:46:00 -
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I have fond memories of riding bumper cars as a lad. |

Andreus Ixiris
Mixed Metaphor
229
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Posted - 2011.11.14 10:43:00 -
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Bump for truth. Andreus Anthony LeHane Ixiris CEO, Mixed Metaphor
Animated Corporate Logos |

Ingvar Angst
Nasty Pope Holding Corp Talocan United
540
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Posted - 2011.11.14 13:12:00 -
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This "bug" was one of the better new "little" features they've implemented into the game... then they killed it. It made me sad.
Bring back the ring! Six months in the hole... it changes a man. |

Neo Agricola
BLACK-MARK
91
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Posted - 2011.11.15 13:39:00 -
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++1 DISSONANCE is recruiting Members: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=70361#post70361 Black-Mark Alliance Recruitment: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=6710 |

Emiko Luan
Ekchuah's Shrine Comporium
5
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Posted - 2011.11.16 06:28:00 -
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+1 here too, I've forgotten my cloak a couple times, thankfully not fatally... +welcome to my world+ http://venomzer0.deviantart.com |

Insane Randomness
Among the Shadows Takahashi Alliance
10
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Posted - 2011.11.16 06:59:00 -
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the support: I give it. |

Pelador Rova
Blackstar Privateer Consortium
10
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Posted - 2011.11.16 07:08:00 -
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+?
Sorry my support is cloaked, once the UI is changed you might be able to monitor the value. |

Pelador Rova
Blackstar Privateer Consortium
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Posted - 2011.11.16 07:15:00 -
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Barbara Nichole wrote:seems like kind of a waste of effort to me.
how can it really be a waste of effort, if the work has already been done and can be taken from version control and thus applied rather quickly most likley?
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Iam Widdershins
Project Nemesis Moar Tears
241
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Posted - 2011.11.16 07:24:00 -
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Pelador Rova wrote:Barbara Nichole wrote:seems like kind of a waste of effort to me. how can it really be a waste of effort, if the work has already been done and can be taken from version control and thus applied rather quickly most likley? It's posts like this that make me angrily move my mouse about the screen looking for the Dislike button.
(Barbara's, not Pelador's.) |

Dr'MeTaL
New Eden Regimental Navy Rebel Alliance of New Eden
0
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Posted - 2011.11.16 08:41:00 -
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YES!
done this many times. get up to go to the bathroom or something, get to the door and cant remeber if i cloaked or not. turn around and squint at my computer trying to see if its flashing or not. lol
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Iam Widdershins
Project Nemesis Moar Tears
241
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Posted - 2011.11.16 08:55:00 -
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Dr'MeTaL wrote:YES!
done this many times. get up to go to the bathroom or something, get to the door and cant remeber if i cloaked or not. turn around and squint at my computer trying to see if its flashing or not. lol
I tried this with it on, and I am pleased to report that I could see it from 25 feet away with a short look. |

Khanh'rhh
Sudden Buggery
357
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Posted - 2011.11.16 17:35:00 -
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I support this coming back.
I also support some other notification, especially on a forced decloak. Something like:
!!!PROXIMITY ALERT - CLOAK FAILURE!!!
As a popup in the area where you usually get notifications on being jammed. - "Do not touch anything unnecessarily. Beware of pretty girls in dance halls and parks who may be spies, as well as bicycles, revolvers, uniforms, arms, dead horses, and men lying on roads -- they are not there accidentally." -Soviet infantry manual, issued in the 1930's |

Soldarius
United Highsec Front The 99 Percent
141
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Posted - 2012.02.07 02:04:00 -
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Supported. +1 "How do you kill that which has no life?" |

Serge Bastana
GWA Corp
101
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Posted - 2012.02.07 03:05:00 -
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Yeppers +! in other MMO's stupid people are annoying. In EVE they are a valuable resource /facebrick for those times when /facepalm just isn't enough
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Iam Widdershins
Project Nemesis Moar Tears
338
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Posted - 2012.02.07 05:18:00 -
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Khanh'rhh wrote:I also support some other notification, especially on a forced decloak. Something like:
!!!PROXIMITY ALERT - CLOAK FAILURE!!!
As a popup in the area where you usually get notifications on being jammed.
Well maybe, but you gotta remember you'd get that every jump in a recon/covops. |

Nikk Narrel
Infinite Improbability Inc Mordus Angels
45
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Posted - 2012.02.07 15:09:00 -
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Anything that helps identify the cloak being active, especially if you have a bad moment of lag at the wrong time, is a good thing.
+1 |
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