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Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.09.18 13:50:00 -
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cool story, you don't actually have it right though please leave |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
4728
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Posted - 2012.09.18 14:30:00 -
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BillyBanter wrote:The problem here is it's way too easy, and too cheap, to get hugely profitable kills.
It's risk vs reward, the risk isn't much, it's known to and accepted by the ganker long before weapon is fired. A simple solution would be to increase freighter HP by 300%. 100k EHP isn't very much for what is supposed to be EVE's largest freight vessel.
the problem is that you're undocking freighters with 30b isk of loot inside please leave |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
4728
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Posted - 2012.09.18 14:44:00 -
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BillyBanter wrote:Do all Goons lie on the forums all of the time? Rarely is there such a kill, and when it is, it's usually from bpcs giving an incorrect amount in the kill mail. The majority of the freighters are carrying just a few billion at the most, and many have far less. Some have just plastic wrap.
do you know what plastic wrap is please leave |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
4730
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Posted - 2012.09.18 17:45:00 -
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Vincent Athena wrote:If CCP wants to nerf suicide gankers they could make these 2 rules:
1) If while under CONCORD aggression you kill a ship, you pay the insurance payout for that ship.
2) If your wallet is negative, you may not board any ship bigger than a shuttle. (Lore: Ship crews are paid from the interest earned from the total of all ISK in all wallets. If yours is negative, you are not contributing to the crew wage pool, so you are not allowed to use a crewed ship.)
Suicide ganking would still be possible. Profitable? Not as much. They would just have to be even more selective.
Tell me why they should introduce literally the only game mechanic that can force your wallet to go negative
you know something beyond "wel suaside gank is bad!!!" please leave |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
4730
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Posted - 2012.09.18 18:48:00 -
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step 1: buy a freighter step 2: insure it step 3: wrap something worthless step 4: autopilot to a hotspot please leave |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
4731
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Posted - 2012.09.18 19:08:00 -
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Frostys Virpio wrote:Andski wrote:step 1: buy a freighter step 2: insure it step 3: wrap something worthless step 4: autopilot to a hotspot The payout is higher than the market price + insurance cost?
the difference is a whole lot less than the 1b in taloses that derp into you please leave |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
4745
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Posted - 2012.09.19 01:17:00 -
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Heet Crusher wrote:First off don't believe a word a cfc or hbc ever says. They are scammers, liars, and all around all star idiots. They are what is wrong with EVE. Now I know how i would handle this. Go gank them. If they are in tier 3 bc you can instant pop them if you have the skills. If not hire some mercs to clear the system. And you can sit back and watch the fireworks if you prefer.
i see elo knight opened the doors to the unwashed masses of recruitment scam victims please leave |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
4779
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Posted - 2012.09.20 18:04:00 -
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Dan Carter Murray wrote:I don't think anyone here has actually played WoW.
Yes, use rapier to insta warp freighters.
No, goons don't recruit adults.
No, goons aren't "good" at pvp.
Yes, goons have a few think tank corps that come up with clever ways to make isk.
No, nothing interesting happens in nullsec.
lol so bitter, sorry you got scammed please leave |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
4779
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Posted - 2012.09.20 18:08:00 -
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Frostys Virpio wrote:baltec1 wrote:Gun Gal wrote:Amazing Justifying exploitable offenses, no risk vs reward, recyclable characters
Eve has come a long way, but its still going down the toilet due to you *******. Point out the exploit. The no risk part too please.
there's plenty of risk in suicide ganking, you just chalk it up to an "accepted cost" because you want to frame the argument your way
sorry you lost all of your isk in a freighter please leave |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
4780
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Posted - 2012.09.20 18:31:00 -
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guys I have the best joke ever
a viable caldari ship please leave |
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Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
4780
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Posted - 2012.09.20 19:57:00 -
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Malphilos wrote:Sure they are, but that's all upside after fixed costs. It's completely possible to lose all your iskies suicide ganking, but you'd have to do it on purpose.
So those dudes that gank a freighter which yields absolutely nothing as far as drops are just losing their ISK on purpose?
Explain this new wave of NPC alt logic to me, please. please leave |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
4780
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Posted - 2012.09.20 20:00:00 -
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When you're talking about the "risk" aspect you have to put it in perspective of the rewards involved, and when that reward is entirely based on a crap throw you can't really talk about it being "risk-free" please leave |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
4782
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Posted - 2012.09.20 20:24:00 -
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Malphilos wrote:Yes.
I didn't say it was risk elimination (this is for Tippia as well), it's mitigation. Control if you will.
It's analogous to going to Vegas knowing exactly how much you'll spend. You've decided to spend X, but if you hit the jackpot you'll spend less and may make money.
It's all upside. There's no occasion where you can lose more than you intend.
hey sup I have a discovery that will enlighten the **** out of you
there is literally no situation in eve where you can lose more than you intend
*exhales* wisdom please leave |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
4782
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Posted - 2012.09.20 20:39:00 -
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go run some more numbers in spreadsheets and keep adjusting it a bit to arrive at your preconceived conclusion that ganking is absolutely free of risk when the reward aspect is absolutely unpredictable please leave |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
4783
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Posted - 2012.09.20 20:54:00 -
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the root of the problem is that so many of you seem to think that freighters are the only way to move multibillion ISK loads of cargo
the fact is that the Orca can haul high-value loads very easily and there are ways of concealing your cargo when flying a freighter, i.e. double-wrapping, and the only gank gangs that will bother with gambling on a double-wrapped haul are the ones who can afford to lose ~1b in ships on a crapthrow like that please leave |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
4789
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Posted - 2012.09.21 00:26:00 -
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Frostys Virpio wrote:Could it be done with lets say a Naga instead of a Talos for someone trained in caldari racial ship or is the talos used because it's THAT much better?
The Talos has two more low slots and a hull bonus for hybrid damage to boot. please leave |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
4798
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Posted - 2012.09.21 20:11:00 -
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i love the notion that you'd pull concord straight to the gate to aggress the freighter before a DPS gank
it's like pubbies don't actually know anything about suicide ganking, shocking! please leave |
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