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BillyBanter
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.09.18 13:23:00 -
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I studied how this goon corp is ganking so many freighters in Uedema and surrounding systems. They wait for a target, once a freighter is in the system they will bump it to stop it from going anywhere. They will shoot it with an alt character to get the freighter into pvp, this stops the pilot from logging out. Due to how effective this is, there is no escape for the freighter pilot. Once you've jumped into that system in a freighter, you've given them a 100% guaranteed kill on you. Once the sec status of the alt character is too low, they replace it with a new one.
I also watched their characters log in one by one and then suddenly all of them logged off on my contacts at precisely the same moment, looks like his computer crashed :D
Checked their character history, about half of them joined the corp on the same day and the other half were all new characters, created on the same day, earlier this year.
They also use log in traps, to trick people into thinking they're offline, the bumpers wait for a target and when one is found and held in place, the ganking characters are logged in to destroy it.
Perhaps everyone should start doing this, it's a really easy way to earn isk and get epic kills. Plenty of people with multiple accounts and the time to burn.
For a list of their ganking characters just look up Furious Father on a killboard and see his freighter kills and who was part of it. |
William Walker
House Aratus Fatal Ascension
79
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Posted - 2012.09.18 13:24:00 -
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Also in Niarja. All is going according to plan. |
Sentient Blade
Walk It Off LEGIO ASTARTES ARCANUM
480
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Posted - 2012.09.18 13:25:00 -
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BillyBanter wrote: Once the sec status of the alt character is too low, they replace it with a new one.
Which is a bannable offence if they're recycling them. |
The Djentleman Paulson
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
58
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Posted - 2012.09.18 13:25:00 -
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ELEITE PVP |
Azami Nevinyrall
Frog Steamers
426
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Posted - 2012.09.18 13:28:00 -
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Discussion on goons usually = locked by goon ISD...
IB4 ISD... Do you know what a sh*t-barometer is? It measures the sh*t-pressure in the air, did you hear that? The sounds of the whispering winds of sh*t... |
Robert De'Arneth
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Posted - 2012.09.18 13:30:00 -
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You sure learned a lot for the one day you been playing EVE!! Or, you are posting on a one day alt, that is my guess. Now my question is, why are you coward and have a yellow streak 5 miles long down your back? If you are going to post about a corp, grow a pair and post on your main. |
Riot Girl
Perkone Caldari State
109
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Posted - 2012.09.18 13:35:00 -
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Sentient Blade wrote:BillyBanter wrote: Once the sec status of the alt character is too low, they replace it with a new one. Which is a bannable offence if they're recycling them.
What? Deleting a character is bannable? |
Athena Themis
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.09.18 13:38:00 -
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Sentient Blade wrote:BillyBanter wrote: Once the sec status of the alt character is too low, they replace it with a new one. Which is a bannable offence if they're recycling them.
LOL....no. |
WTFAMILOOKINGAT
Horizon Research Group
0
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Posted - 2012.09.18 13:42:00 -
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Athena Themis wrote:Sentient Blade wrote:BillyBanter wrote: Once the sec status of the alt character is too low, they replace it with a new one. Which is a bannable offence if they're recycling them. LOL....no.
Sure it is, been considered an exploit since forever. Are you stupid or just new here? |
Destination SkillQueue
Are We There Yet
2675
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Posted - 2012.09.18 13:46:00 -
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Riot Girl wrote:Sentient Blade wrote:BillyBanter wrote: Once the sec status of the alt character is too low, they replace it with a new one. Which is a bannable offence if they're recycling them. What? Deleting a character is bannable?
It's bannable if your purpose is to get around the security status mechanic. Basicly instead of grinding your sec status back up after a gank spree, you recycle the character and make a new one, which you use for ganks and recycle when your sec status gets too low. Repeat ad nauseam. |
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Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
4726
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Posted - 2012.09.18 13:50:00 -
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cool story, you don't actually have it right though please leave |
BillyBanter
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.09.18 13:52:00 -
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The problem here is it's way too easy, and too cheap, to get hugely profitable kills.
It's risk vs reward, the risk isn't much, it's known to and accepted by the ganker long before weapon is fired. A simple solution would be to increase freighter HP by 300%. 100k EHP isn't very much for what is supposed to be EVE's largest freight vessel. |
highonpop
Eve Liberation Force Fatal Ascension
306
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Posted - 2012.09.18 13:54:00 -
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Azami Nevinyrall wrote:Discussion on goons usually = locked by goon ISD...
IB4 ISD...
someone used too much tin-foil shampoo...
http://www.soundboard.com/sb/Very%20best%20of%20Makalu%20Zarya
R.I.P Vile Rat http://evemaps.dotlan.net/live/Outpost/Rename/2012-09-12 |
Tiberious Thessalonia
True Slave Foundations Shaktipat Revelators
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Posted - 2012.09.18 13:54:00 -
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Wait wait wait.
Are you telling me...
...that sometimes people in this game gank for profit and fun? |
Robert De'Arneth
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Posted - 2012.09.18 13:56:00 -
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BillyBanter wrote:The problem here is it's way too easy, and too cheap, to get hugely profitable kills.
It's risk vs reward, the risk isn't much, it's known to and accepted by the ganker long before weapon is fired. A simple solution would be to increase freighter HP by 300%. 100k EHP isn't very much for what is supposed to be EVE's largest freight vessel.
No the simple solution would be if you feel you are going to be hit bring freinds. It is a freighter not a fighter. There are game mechanics to prevent this, it is called bring a fleet, or risk your ship, it's that whole risk vs reward thing. |
Riot Girl
Perkone Caldari State
109
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Posted - 2012.09.18 13:56:00 -
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BillyBanter wrote:A simple solution would be to increase freighter HP by 300%. An even simpler solution would be to pay a few friends to escort you. |
Din Chao
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.09.18 13:58:00 -
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BillyBanter wrote:The problem here is it's way too easy, and too cheap, to get hugely profitable kills.
It's risk vs reward, the risk isn't much, it's known to and accepted by the ganker long before weapon is fired. A simple solution would be to increase freighter HP by 300%. 100k EHP isn't very much for what is supposed to be EVE's largest freight vessel. A simpler solution would be to pay attention to your surroundings, communicate with other haulers, and avoid hot spots where gankers are active. |
BillyBanter
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2012.09.18 13:59:00 -
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Robert De'Arneth wrote:BillyBanter wrote:The problem here is it's way too easy, and too cheap, to get hugely profitable kills.
It's risk vs reward, the risk isn't much, it's known to and accepted by the ganker long before weapon is fired. A simple solution would be to increase freighter HP by 300%. 100k EHP isn't very much for what is supposed to be EVE's largest freight vessel. No the simple solution would be if you feel you are going to be hit bring freinds. It is a freighter not a fighter. There are game mechanics to prevent this, it is called bring a fleet, or risk your ship, it's that whole risk vs reward thing.
Sure, because it's oh so practical for every freighter in empire to be guarded by a fleet of ships. Don't talk rubbish, son. |
BillyBanter
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.09.18 14:00:00 -
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Din Chao wrote:BillyBanter wrote:The problem here is it's way too easy, and too cheap, to get hugely profitable kills.
It's risk vs reward, the risk isn't much, it's known to and accepted by the ganker long before weapon is fired. A simple solution would be to increase freighter HP by 300%. 100k EHP isn't very much for what is supposed to be EVE's largest freight vessel. A simpler solution would be to pay attention to your surroundings, communicate with other haulers, and avoid hot spots where gankers are active.
The gankers camp a path that cannot be avoided, less you don't make the journey at all. They use login traps and alt scouts to know when you're coming. There really is no option except to not do the freighter trip because if they target you, there is no escape. |
Aruken Marr
BSC LEGION Tactical Narcotics Team
333
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Posted - 2012.09.18 14:02:00 -
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BillyBanter wrote:The problem here is it's way too easy, and too cheap, to get hugely profitable kills.
It's risk vs reward, the risk isn't much, it's known to and accepted by the ganker long before weapon is fired. A simple solution would be to increase freighter HP by 300%. 100k EHP isn't very much for what is supposed to be EVE's largest freight vessel.
You appear to be confusing the value of the ship with the value of it's cargo. I can fly around in a velator with 20bils worth of T2 bpo's in my hold. Should we then buff velator ehp because risk vs reward is skewed? |
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flakeys
Arkham Innovations Paper Tiger Coalition
362
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Posted - 2012.09.18 14:03:00 -
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BillyBanter wrote:The problem here is it's way too easy, and too cheap, to get hugely profitable kills.
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The freighter kils i had seen after a goonie linked them had none to sht drops and if i would add all 8 i was shown the griefers would be 'working' with a loss.
Offcourse i did not see all of them so might be profitable , the total loss for the victims was high though , verry high.
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Din Chao
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
102
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Posted - 2012.09.18 14:04:00 -
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BillyBanter wrote:Din Chao wrote:BillyBanter wrote:The problem here is it's way too easy, and too cheap, to get hugely profitable kills.
It's risk vs reward, the risk isn't much, it's known to and accepted by the ganker long before weapon is fired. A simple solution would be to increase freighter HP by 300%. 100k EHP isn't very much for what is supposed to be EVE's largest freight vessel. A simpler solution would be to pay attention to your surroundings, communicate with other haulers, and avoid hot spots where gankers are active. The gankers camp a path that cannot be avoided, less you don't make the journey at all. They use login traps and alt scouts to know when you're coming. There really is no option except to not do the freighter trip because if they target you, there is no escape. So, it's too hard... |
Riot Girl
Perkone Caldari State
109
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Posted - 2012.09.18 14:05:00 -
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BillyBanter wrote:Sure, because it's oh so practical for every freighter in empire to be guarded by a fleet of ships. If you lose a ship because it's impractical to ensure it's protected, you deserve that loss. |
Robert De'Arneth
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Posted - 2012.09.18 14:05:00 -
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BillyBanter wrote:Robert De'Arneth wrote:BillyBanter wrote:The problem here is it's way too easy, and too cheap, to get hugely profitable kills.
It's risk vs reward, the risk isn't much, it's known to and accepted by the ganker long before weapon is fired. A simple solution would be to increase freighter HP by 300%. 100k EHP isn't very much for what is supposed to be EVE's largest freight vessel. No the simple solution would be if you feel you are going to be hit bring freinds. It is a freighter not a fighter. There are game mechanics to prevent this, it is called bring a fleet, or risk your ship, it's that whole risk vs reward thing. Sure, because it's oh so practical for every freighter in empire to be guarded by a fleet of ships.
I am not the one asking to be handed free reign in a game with Risk, you are. Also you are a posting on a 1 day alt, you have no cred accpet as coward and a whiner. Post on your main show us your kill mail from yesterday. Then get back to work and replace what you lost because you were stupid.
Smart people learn from their mistakes, whiners ask for buffs and nerfs. I think it is safe to say we know what you are. |
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
908
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Posted - 2012.09.18 14:10:00 -
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Riot Girl wrote:Sentient Blade wrote:BillyBanter wrote: Once the sec status of the alt character is too low, they replace it with a new one. Which is a bannable offence if they're recycling them. What? Deleting a character is bannable?
They did NOT say that. Learn how to argue properly.
They said RECYCLING is bannable.
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Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
908
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Posted - 2012.09.18 14:10:00 -
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Athena Themis wrote:Sentient Blade wrote:BillyBanter wrote: Once the sec status of the alt character is too low, they replace it with a new one. Which is a bannable offence if they're recycling them. LOL....no.
LOL...wrong. |
Doddy
Excidium. Executive Outcomes
195
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Posted - 2012.09.18 14:11:00 -
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BillyBanter wrote:The problem here is it's way too easy, and too cheap, to get hugely profitable kills.
It's risk vs reward, the risk isn't much, it's known to and accepted by the ganker long before weapon is fired. A simple solution would be to increase freighter HP by 300%. 100k EHP isn't very much for what is supposed to be EVE's largest freight vessel.
Its only profitable because idiots cram valuables into one freighter and make it worth killing. Plus its more like 200k ehp than 100k.
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BillyBanter
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2012.09.18 14:14:00 -
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They could also change how bumping things. A small ship locking down a massive freighter is somewhat of a joke and is very abusable, as such they effectively acting as warp scrambles on a freighter in empire space, to keep in pinned down, without the retaliation from concord.
How is that not abuse of a game system? |
Riot Girl
Perkone Caldari State
109
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Posted - 2012.09.18 14:14:00 -
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Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:Learn how to argue properly. I wasn't arguing. Perhaps this is an example of that hipster irony I've been hearing about? |
Riot Girl
Perkone Caldari State
109
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Posted - 2012.09.18 14:17:00 -
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BillyBanter wrote:They could also change how bumping things. A ship locking down a massive freighter is somewhat of a joke and is very abusable, as such they effectively act as warp scramblers on a freighter in empire space, to keep in pinned down, without the retaliation from concord.
How is that not abuse of a game system?
So what are they doing exactly? Suicide ganking with multiple alts until you're dead? |
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