The problem here is it's way too easy, and too cheap, to get hugely profitable kills.

It's risk vs reward, the risk isn't much, it's known to and accepted by the ganker long before weapon is fired. A simple solution would be to increase freighter HP by 300%. 100k EHP isn't very much for what is supposed to be EVE's largest freight vessel.

They could also change how bumping things. A ship locking down a massive freighter is somewhat of a joke and is very abusable, as such they effectively act as warp scramblers on a freighter in empire space, to keep in pinned down, without the retaliation from concord.

How is that not abuse of a game system?

So what are they doing exactly? Suicide ganking with multiple alts until you're dead?

How about not being greedy and putting all your eggs in one basket?

This isn't abuse. This is punishment for stupidity. It also encourages people to consider alternative options, and if they don't have the capacity for that, they're going to be out of pocket.

Simple.

They could also change how bumping things. A ship locking down a massive freighter is somewhat of a joke and is very abusable, as such they effectively act as warp scramblers on a freighter in empire space, to keep in pinned down, without the retaliation from concord.

How is that not abuse of a game system?

Since you are oh so new, I am going to tell you how smart people use the map tools.

Click Map, go to filters selecet ships destroyed in last 24 hours, also look at pod kills in last 24 hours. If you see a system that has a lot of ships getting popped, smart people do not go there with a 1 billion + ISK Ship, unless they have backup, or are willing to take the RISK and lose their ship.


Also, you seem to have forgotten a very important rule of EVE Online, when you undock a ship anywhere at anytime, you have lost that ship until it is docked.

However, if you feel there is a group abusing the game and it's tools, you can report them and let CCP handle it, as it should be.

The problem here is it's way too easy, and too cheap, to get hugely profitable kills.

It's risk vs reward, the risk isn't much, it's known to and accepted by the ganker long before weapon is fired. A simple solution would be to increase freighter HP by 300%. 100k EHP isn't very much for what is supposed to be EVE's largest freight vessel.

the problem is that you're undocking freighters with 30b isk of loot inside

If you bothered to check their freighter kills, you'd see that they don't care how much loot is being carried. They've targetted freighters with barely one billion of loot in the hold. They've also targetted freighters carrying nothing more than plastic wrap.

Perhaps everyone should start doing this, it's a really easy way to earn isk and get epic kills. Plenty of people with multiple accounts and the time to burn.

I studied how this goon corp is ganking so many freighters in Uedema and surrounding systems. They wait for a target, once a freighter is in the system they will bump it to stop it from going anywhere. They will shoot it with an alt character to get the freighter into pvp, this stops the pilot from logging out. Due to how effective this is, there is no escape for the freighter pilot. Once you've jumped into that system in a freighter, you've given them a 100% guaranteed kill on you. Once the sec status of the alt character is too low, they replace it with a new one.

I also watched their characters log in one by one and then suddenly all of them logged off on my contacts at precisely the same moment, looks like his computer crashed :D

Checked their character history, about half of them joined the corp on the same day and the other half were all new characters, created on the same day, earlier this year.

They also use log in traps, to trick people into thinking they're offline, the bumpers wait for a target and when one is found and held in place, the ganking characters are logged in to destroy it.

Perhaps everyone should start doing this, it's a really easy way to earn isk and get epic kills. Plenty of people with multiple accounts and the time to burn.

For a list of their ganking characters just look up Furious Father on a killboard and see his freighter kills and who was part of it.

Lol, I do 'bother' scrub, and a freighter kill is a freighter kill, irrespective of cargo.

Do all Goons lie on the forums all of the time? Rarely is there such a kill, and when it is, it's usually from bpcs giving an incorrect amount in the kill mail. The majority of the freighters are carrying just a few billion at the most, and many have far less. Some have just plastic wrap.

I wasn't talking to you, dummy.

do you know what plastic wrap is

Jesus Christ, You pubbies ***** about any thing that requires you to actually play the game. I outlined clearly in the last thread about this topic five strategies to avoid pirates. It's easy if you take a few moments to understand the mechanics of high sec and the razor thin margin of time, dps/alpha, and risk pirates are working on.

My experience as a high sec pirate, industrialist, and small gang PVPer leads me to believe that the EHP of freighters is perfectly in line with the risk-reward ratio necessary to foster a strong economy. Freighter ganking doesn't just benefit the pirates with an income source. It stimulates production to meet their new purchasing power, while increasing profits due to increased scarcity.

The problem with decreased risk is a vibrant economy requires large amounts of ISK moving freely among a large number of people. The sterile future your changes would lead to is a future of stagnant meaningless wealth automated in production and transfer; sitting idly in wallets and hangars unspent, under valued, and ultimately dead.

Do all Goons lie on the forums all of the time? Rarely is there such a kill, and when it is, it's usually from bpcs giving an incorrect amount in the kill mail. The majority of the freighters are carrying just a few billion at the most, and many have far less. Some have just plastic wrap.

simple solution would be if you feel you are going to be hit bring freinds. It is a freighter not a fighter. There are game mechanics to prevent this, it is called bring a fleet, or risk your ship, it's that whole risk vs reward thing.

Jesus Christ, You pubbies ***** about any thing that requires you to actually play the game. I outlined clearly in the last thread about this topic five strategies to avoid pirates. It's easy if you take a few moments to understand the mechanics of high sec and the razor thin margin of time, dps/alpha, and risk pirates are working on.

My experience as a high sec pirate, industrialist, and small gang PVPer leads me to believe that the EHP of freighters is perfectly in line with the risk-reward ratio necessary to foster a strong economy. Freighter ganking doesn't just benefit the pirates with an income source. It stimulates production to meet their new purchasing power, while increasing profits due to increased scarcity.

The problem with decreased risk is a vibrant economy requires large amounts of ISK moving freely among a large number of people. The sterile future your changes would lead to is a future of stagnant meaningless wealth automated in production and transfer; sitting idly in wallets and hangars unspent, under valued, and ultimately dead.

My suggestion is better TBH.

post on your main.