I lack sufficient information to tell but are the numbers off by ALOT? What's the "breakeven" point for the calculation? Is a freighter full of Mexallon a definite Gank target (worth ~4.5billion). The ramifications for price stability are interesting (to me at least ;)

Posted before. Stay under 2 bill and no wraps on your stuff and you will avoid most gank. It can still happen tho...

Technically, nothing can warp without being 100% aligned. It's just that GÇ£being alignedGÇ£ has pretty much nothing to do with which way the ship is pointing and everything to do with the direction and size of its velocity vector.

The quality of high sec pilots is rather telling given that 18 pages in and they still do not understand this very simple concept.

The fact people still ask for it in this very thraed prove people can't read. I personally posted it at lest 3 time now ans some people pointed out it was pretty much right. Too lazy to read a thread, too lazy to not auto-pilot across a 0.5 I guess...

Someone posted math that then multiple people indicated was wrong. I was just curious what the right math is. I lack a sufficient knowledge base to do it myself and its an awful lot of stuff that's poorly documented.

The fact people still ask for it in this very thraed prove people can't read. I personally posted it at lest 3 time now ans some people pointed out it was pretty much right. Too lazy to read a thread, too lazy to not auto-pilot across a 0.5 I guess...

I don't think anyone here has actually played WoW.

Yes, use rapier to insta warp freighters.

No, goons don't recruit adults.

No, goons aren't "good" at pvp.

Yes, goons have a few think tank corps that come up with clever ways to make isk.

No, nothing interesting happens in nullsec.

lol so bitter, sorry you got scammed

The no risk part too please.

there's plenty of risk in suicide ganking, you just chalk it up to an "accepted cost" because you want to frame the argument your way

sorry you lost all of your isk in a freighter

It's like CCP sat down at a meeting and asked themselves "Why is anyone still flying Caldari and what can we do to stop this?"

They should really nerf Caldari freighters along with their combat ships.

Someone posted math that then multiple people indicated was wrong. I was just curious what the right math is. I lack a sufficient knowledge base to do it myself and its an awful lot of stuff that's poorly documented.

guys I have the best joke ever

a viable caldari ship

The math was largely correct, the numbers he was using are out of date. It boils down to anything less than 5 billion will probably be ignored unless the Pirate is bored, already made enough that day to cover his loses, or personally doesn't like you/your name/your corp/your bio.

1) Stop loading freights with insane value cargoes.
2) Stop jumping into systems with recent spates of ship kills.
3) CCP fix bumping.

Of all the issues here the only one that really qualifies for a complaint is the use of ships to bump the target out of alignment, essentially becoming a warp disruptor without actually having to lock a target. No risk to the pilot, yet you can basically stop a freighter in its tracks all day.

Maybe CCP need to look at allowing the mass of a vessel to dictate how much it can be nudged off course by smaller ships (if at all).

Apart from that, be more aware of your surroundings, don't load your life into a freighter.

Hell use an ORCA :P I hear they make good transport ships these days.

Once again you think CCP could FIX something without nerfing something... let me tell you how it will go down bro.

CCP will disable bumping for all ships.
CCP will place a hard cap on ISK value in a cargo hold, RP it as some CONCORD sanction.
CCP will prevent autopilot from jumping into systems with any pvp activity, so you'll have to sit at your PC from now on.

there's plenty of risk in suicide ganking, you just chalk it up to an "accepted cost" because you want to frame the argument your way

The downside is completely limited. It is in fact a fixed cost and must be accepted or the process can't happen. One might argue that it turns the "don't fly what you can't afford to lose" rule on it's head as the loss is intended as a cost of business.

You can't lose more than you intend or "accept", unless you're a complete flipping idiot and fail to understand the concept of "suicide". It's all potential upside.

Risk mitigation at it's finest.

You forgot the loot gods and they are a fickle bunch.

You forgot the loot gods and they are a fickle bunch.

Sure they are, but that's all upside after fixed costs. It's completely possible to lose all your iskies suicide ganking, but you'd have to do it on purpose.

So those dudes that gank a freighter which yields absolutely nothing as far as drops are just losing their ISK on purpose?

Explain this new wave of NPC alt logic to me, please.