A pawn is part of a plan too, no?

What? Deleting a character is bannable?

I studied how this goon corp is ganking so many freighters in Uedema and surrounding systems. They wait for a target, once a freighter is in the system they will bump it to stop it from going anywhere. They will shoot it with an alt character to get the freighter into pvp, this stops the pilot from logging out. Due to how effective this is, there is no escape for the freighter pilot. Once you've jumped into that system in a freighter, you've given them a 100% guaranteed kill on you. Once the sec status of the alt character is too low, they replace it with a new one.

I also watched their characters log in one by one and then suddenly all of them logged off on my contacts at precisely the same moment, looks like his computer crashed :D

Checked their character history, about half of them joined the corp on the same day and the other half were all new characters, created on the same day, earlier this year.

They also use log in traps, to trick people into thinking they're offline, the bumpers wait for a target and when one is found and held in place, the ganking characters are logged in to destroy it.

Perhaps everyone should start doing this, it's a really easy way to earn isk and get epic kills. Plenty of people with multiple accounts and the time to burn.

For a list of their ganking characters just look up Furious Father on a killboard and see his freighter kills and who was part of it.

Erm.. I have never been killed in my charon, I don't understand why individual pilots cannot follow some simple rules that kept me alive carrying expensive cargo:

• Never autopilot (yes it's boring, but I'd rather be bored than dead) warping gate to gate at your computer very much decreases your chances of being ganked. (personally I used to autopilot with an empty cargo, due to the fact it's not extremely profitable to destroy an empty freighter but some individuals don't even do that)


• If you suspect you have been scanned, dock or change route to avoid any 0.5 and 0.6 systems


• There are intelligence channels for certain areas of high security, especially in uedama and niarja, join them

I'm sure many others in this thread will have additions to this list including scouts, but I find just those three rules keeps most pilots alive for months at a time. I have never lost a freighter.

None of those goon pirates on eve-kill use alpha strikes. How do I know for sure? I'm on some of them, and I produced many of the ships. In High Sec. Using freighters to move the materials. That weren't ganked. Cause I'm not dumb.

Not that I care in the slightest about the OP, but I'd just like to point out that you are also blue to nearly every freighter ganking alliance in EvE, genius.

have to remember the majority of goons are silly nerdy 13 year old

its quite easy to out wit them

get an alt in an ibis with a civilian gattling gun and spawn concord on the gates before you jump your freighters through

as this is considered an exploit i would never never do this

you watch the goonies whine and cry now

Agreed. The map tool is great to plan routes free of risks...I honestly think that with a bit of planing one could even find a calm route through 0.0 and autopilot an Orca for several jumps.

Erm.. I have never been killed in my charon, I don't understand why individual pilots cannot follow some simple rules that kept me alive carrying expensive cargo:

• Never autopilot (yes it's boring, but I'd rather be bored than dead) warping gate to gate at your computer very much decreases your chances of being ganked. (personally I used to autopilot with an empty cargo, due to the fact it's not extremely profitable to destroy an empty freighter but some individuals don't even do that)


• If you suspect you have been scanned, dock or change route to avoid any 0.5 and 0.6 systems


• There are intelligence channels for certain areas of high security, especially in uedama and niarja, join them

I'm sure many others in this thread will have additions to this list including scouts, but I find just those three rules keeps most pilots alive for months at a time. I have never lost a freighter.

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1. Make multiple trips. Unless you can afford to sneeze off the 1.5B ISK cost of a freighter (plus whatever cargo you lost), the extra time between destinations is well worth it.
2. Make the trip in several legs. Travel a few jumps, dock up, reconnoiter, make a few more jumps, dock up, etc. Alternatively, use a scout.
3. If you're carrying minerals or ore in your freighter, don't wrap it. Wrapping it only makes gankers think you're carrying much more valuable cargo.
4. If you must carry valuable cargo that takes up a lot of space, use an Orca to transport them. Yes, you'll still have to make multiple trips, but an Orca is a lot more likely to survive the trip than a freighter.
5. If you *must* use a freighter for high-value goods on long-haul journeys, always take an escort. An EWAR/logi vessel is probably more use than a combat escort to fight gankers, because all the escort has to do is keep you alive until CONCORD arrives.

The solution to this is pretty simple. We need cloaky freighters. But dont make them suck and be like jfs which only have 1/3 the cargo of a normal freighter. Let them have at least 2/3 or so.

The solution to this is pretty simple. We need cloaky freighters. But dont make them suck and be like jfs which only have 1/3 the cargo of a normal freighter. Let them have at least 2/3 or so.

Screw it, let us have cloaky dictors.

However, I am prepared to offer protection for any freighters that require it for a small fee. You will put your freighter alts (mains for some of you....) into my corp. We will run freighters as groups with armed escorts. I have already setup 20 new accounts to multibox with and I have some friends ready to move their toons in as well.

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It's funny that most of the intelligent comments I have read on here are from the goons themselves.

Maybe we should just ban pvp in all of high sec, so that we could fix the issue for one group of players and mess everyone else's game up. I mean we did it with mining ships why not.

Seriously though, haulers need to learn better strategies instead of calling for some new patch.


However, I am prepared to offer protection for any freighters that require it for a small fee. You will put your freighter alts (mains for some of you....) into my corp. We will run freighters as groups with armed escorts. I have already setup 20 new accounts to multibox with and I have some friends ready to move their toons in as well.

1. Pay a one-time application fee of only 250m. Please send to corp or my ceo and mark "freighter service" so I do not accidentally double your isk on my character.

2. Monthly fee will be 100m.

3. We will coordinate runs as small groups of freighters with an armed escrort. If gankers show up, we will web your ship to allow a quick warp to a corp safespot, rep your freighter as needed with our guardians, and finish off the gankers with the main escort fleet. We will then continue on. We will have multiple safes in each system so you can quickly warp no matter how you get bumped.


***BONUS If your ship is lost in fleets....

1. We will buy you a new identical ship at no cost to you.

2. We wil reimburse you for any lost collateral up to 3 billion per haul. We must limit this amount to guard against fraud.

3. NO limit on reimbursements. You pay us to take on the risk for you. You will earn slightly less a month, but you won't have to worry anymore about losing a 1.5+b ship and its contents/collateral.


Wait, there's more!

If you cannot afford or otherwise do not wish to partake in monthly option, you may rent our services for 25m a day. You will still have to join our corp for that day and fly in our fleets, but you can use us off and on.


***SPECIAL BONUS

You may prepay in advance and save fees!

Options:

1. Bronze: Send 450m isk, which covers your application fee and 3 months of coverage. This saves you 100m isk over 3 months. (better deal)

2. Silver: Send 700m isk, which covers your application fee and 6 months of coverage. This saves you 150m isk over 6 months. (even better deal)

3. Gold: Send 1b isk, which covers your application fee and 12 months of coverage. This saves you 450m isk over 12 months. (most popular package)

4. Platinum: Send 2b isk, which covers your application fee and LIFETIME use of our services, which may save you billions, not to mention you stop losing any more isk ever again to gankers! (BEST deal)


Feel free to reach out to me with any questions you may have. I think I have covered all the bases here.

Please note that I am already getting lots of questions since I floated this idea elsewhere recently.

To ensure you reserve a spot before corp is filled, act now to secure your spot!


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If for ANY reason you are unsatisfied with our service, you may demand a no-questions asked 100% full refund within 30 days. I am absolutely convinced you will love our service so much

It's funny that most of the intelligent comments I have read on here are from the goons themselves.

Maybe we should just ban pvp in all of high sec, so that we could fix the issue for one group of players and mess everyone else's game up. I mean we did it with mining ships why not.

Seriously though, haulers need to learn better strategies instead of calling for some new patch.


However, I am prepared to offer protection for any freighters that require it for a small fee. You will put your freighter alts (mains for some of you....) into my corp. We will run freighters as groups with armed escorts. I have already setup 20 new accounts to multibox with and I have some friends ready to move their toons in as well.

1. Pay a one-time application fee of only 250m. Please send to corp or my ceo and mark "freighter service" so I do not accidentally double your isk on my character.

2. Monthly fee will be 100m.

3. We will coordinate runs as small groups of freighters with an armed escrort. If gankers show up, we will web your ship to allow a quick warp to a corp safespot, rep your freighter as needed with our guardians, and finish off the gankers with the main escort fleet. We will then continue on. We will have multiple safes in each system so you can quickly warp no matter how you get bumped.


***BONUS If your ship is lost in fleets....

1. We will buy you a new identical ship at no cost to you.

2. We wil reimburse you for any lost collateral up to 3 billion per haul. We must limit this amount to guard against fraud.

3. NO limit on reimbursements. You pay us to take on the risk for you. You will earn slightly less a month, but you won't have to worry anymore about losing a 1.5+b ship and its contents/collateral.


Wait, there's more!

If you cannot afford or otherwise do not wish to partake in monthly option, you may rent our services for 25m a day. You will still have to join our corp for that day and fly in our fleets, but you can use us off and on.


***SPECIAL BONUS

You may prepay in advance and save fees!

Options:

1. Bronze: Send 450m isk, which covers your application fee and 3 months of coverage. This saves you 100m isk over 3 months. (better deal)

2. Silver: Send 700m isk, which covers your application fee and 6 months of coverage. This saves you 150m isk over 6 months. (even better deal)

3. Gold: Send 1b isk, which covers your application fee and 12 months of coverage. This saves you 450m isk over 12 months. (most popular package)

4. Platinum: Send 2b isk, which covers your application fee and LIFETIME use of our services, which may save you billions, not to mention you stop losing any more isk ever again to gankers! (BEST deal)


Feel free to reach out to me with any questions you may have. I think I have covered all the bases here.

Please note that I am already getting lots of questions since I floated this idea elsewhere recently.

To ensure you reserve a spot before corp is filled, act now to secure your spot!


IRONCLAD GUARANTEE:

If for ANY reason you are unsatisfied with our service, you may demand a no-questions asked 100% full refund within 30 days. I am absolutely convinced you will love our service so much

First off I like the Idea :-D
I see a glorious future for cloaky AFK freighters...Oh wait...you would have to be there to press cloak everytime you align, but yeah it is highly improbable that someone decloaks you during that very short time.

Very short time: 40 seconds.