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DeBingJos
Weirdo Asylum
Shadow Rock Alliance
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Posted - 2012.09.18 13:37:00 -
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Ok, the cane got a nerf and it deserved it.
But why does the Drake get a buff? (less shields, more gank)
Drakes will be even more op than now...
/me is sad
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DeBingJos
Weirdo Asylum
Shadow Rock Alliance
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Posted - 2012.09.18 13:42:00 -
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-Damage decreased by 20% (rounded to closest digit)
Just noticed this! Holy crap CCP, 20% nerf to damage and 25% nerf to range?!
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DeBingJos
Weirdo Asylum
Shadow Rock Alliance
367
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Posted - 2012.09.18 14:16:00 -
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NiGhTTraX wrote:The current Drake with 7x T2 HML launchers and 2x T2 BCU, firing T1 Scourge Heavy Missiles outputs 321 DPS.
The Hurricane with 6x T2 425mm Autocannons and 2x T2 Gyrostabs outputs 477 DPS.
Remind you : that is 477 DPS for the cane at what optimal? 5km? And that 321 drake dps is at what range?
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DeBingJos
Avalon Project
Shadow Rock Alliance
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Posted - 2012.09.19 07:10:00 -
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The missile nerf is a bit overdone imo, but I can live with it.
The hurricane nerf was needed.
The thing that bothers me most is that I will have to refit a lot of my pre-fitted pvp-ships. I won't be able to undock in half my ships because most of the fits were already thight.
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DeBingJos
Avalon Project
Shadow Rock Alliance
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Posted - 2012.09.20 14:18:00 -
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HELLBOUNDMAN wrote:Terik Deatharbingr wrote:
First, you are incorrect, direction has NO bearing on missile mechanics. Guns, yes, Missiles no. Non what-so-ever. If you don't believe me....go test it.
Second, you mis-understood my statement. My statement is such that...as long as you keep speed, my dps against said ship will not fluctuate. If my first volley against said ship is 1100.....then unless they change speeds or a target painter is used, every subsequent volley is going to be the same 1100.
I use missiles all the time, I don't want the nerf, and I've probably spent more time in EFT than I have in game.
I have been flying missile boats since '08. I have flown with heavy, torp, cruise, and have used t2 on all but rapid light. I am well aware of their capabilities and have experienced it many times. Less so with heavy missiles but still occurs. I flew a torp golem. Using javelin missiles I could 1 shot a cruiser and a frig approaching me using 2 target painters. However, once they were in orbit it would take me at least 4 volleys to down a frig. The reasoning for this is If you fire at a target approaching you, the missile will explode in front of the target forcing it to fly into the explosion. Now, when you fire at an orbitting target or a target moving away from you, then the missile will explode behind it, thus it's flying out of the explosion. This has a direct impact on the damage you do to the target expecially with frigates and cruisers because their base speeds are equal to or faster than the explosion velocity of the missile fired at them. So, it is you that should go test it. I am 100% sure that you CANNOT hit an orbitting frig or cruiser for the same damage as an approaching frig/cruiser. Also, mwd and afterburners have play as well, and with these modules, hitting them while aproaching is still going to be more effective than hitting them while they're running or orbitting. TRUST ME... Go test it on some rats in the test server.
The reason you are hitting approaching frigs harders is because of the sig bloom from the mwd. Once they are in orbit their sig will go down and you will do less damage.
It does not matter in what direction they are traveling in relation to you.
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DeBingJos
Avalon Project
Shadow Rock Alliance
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Posted - 2012.09.24 07:54:00 -
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Drake and tengu needed a nerf.
Don't start complaining about other ships untill you have seen the new stats. Yes the nighthawk will be hit hard by this change, but it is also in the queue for rebalancing.
I'm confident CCP will adress these issues in the future. For now it means that you will have to live with it.
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DeBingJos
Avalon Project
Shadow Rock Alliance
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Posted - 2012.09.24 08:32:00 -
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Morrigan LeSante wrote:DeBingJos wrote:Drake and tengu needed a nerf.
Don't start complaining about other ships untill you have seen the new stats. Yes the nighthawk will be hit hard by this change, but it is also in the queue for rebalancing.
I'm confident CCP will adress these issues in the future. For now it means that you will have to live with it. The new stats on the caracal are worse than before combined with the HML change and they were hardly tearing the place up before ;)
The current proposed cruiser changes are not even live yet and a lot of you guys keep on bitching about ships that aren't even balanced in the winter expansion.
About the caracal: yes it is worse than before, but remember, the changes are not set in stone. This topic exists to give feedback to CCP, so let's try to keep it to the ships that are being balanced this winter.
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DeBingJos
Avalon Project
Shadow Rock Alliance
395
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Posted - 2012.09.25 06:40:00 -
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Veshta Yoshida wrote:
Tier 3s were in my opinion a bad idea to begin with so no comment.
I love you.
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DeBingJos
Avalon Project
Shadow Rock Alliance
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Posted - 2012.09.28 08:56:00 -
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Retardo Khaan wrote:Hannott Thanos wrote:Retardo Khaan wrote:
Is it fair that AC cane does 600dps while HAM drake does only around 450dps.. Why not nerf AC dmg by 20%. Also medium lasors should be nerfed as legion dominates NCO's too much.
And btw HAM drake can only fit 2 bcu because it will run out of cpu. Not to mention if you fit 1 TE its going to be only 1 bcu which lowers dps even more. While cane can easily fit 4 gyros and use barrage.
Like I said, EFT messes with people here. How far is the Cane optimal range? about 3 kilometers? What do you think happens at 20km? Dps is around 300. Guess what happens at 40 km. Dps is 0. Your argument is invalid. Uninstall EFT or learn to dps graph EFT warrior. Have you ever heard of falloff or barrage? Do you know that missiles doesnt have falloff? And do you know that cane can pop rifter with barrage from 40k before rifter alings to warp out... Also do you know what happens when HAM drake trying to shoot at 20k? Nothing will happen because my HAM drake has 18k range. So your argument is invalid. Pls unistall eve and stay in your EFT.
What he tried to say was that the drake will do its full dps at 18k range and that the dps of the cane will go down as the target is farther away.
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DeBingJos
Avalon Project
Shadow Rock Alliance
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Posted - 2012.10.01 19:01:00 -
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CCP Fozzie wrote:To be clear, after these changes settle a bit we very well may revisit missiles depending on how they turn out. The days of balance and forget are over.
I hope there will be a point were most of the stats will be fixed. Hell I'm not buying ships anymore because I don't know how you guys are going to change them...
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DeBingJos
Avalon Project
Shadow Rock Alliance
401
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Posted - 2012.10.01 19:53:00 -
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CCP Fozzie wrote:
Tracking/Range Mods and Ewar
Tracking mod and disruptor changes moved out of this release until the first set of changes settles a bit
Best change in the winter balancing imo.
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