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NickyYo	Posted - 2011.07.14 16:40:00 - [1] Edited by: NickyYo on 14/07/2011 16:45:28 The 0.0 effect... Goons are hardly active and its summer! Lots of players from Razor and MM either quit the game or took a break from it after losing their space. Quite a few 0.0 pvp corps have died off over time due to the blob warfare by the russians. 0.0 is now supercapital online. The only reason big alliances want 0.0 space is to sell iskies, AKA the Russians. It won't be long till these guys own all of 0.0. Look at the chinese server to see this kind of thing in action. The empire ripple effect...* All these 0.0 players then come to empire and harras carebear corporations, they then quit the game. New players don't stick with the game due to being harrassed out of it. Server population stats Look at the graph at the bottom. http://eve-offline.net/?server=tranquility Thats a big dip in daily activity! Now the micro transactions? Is it possible eve is dieing?
Whiny McEmokid	Posted - 2011.07.14 16:43:00 - [2] glad you added that [Serious Thread] tag otherwise I may have suspected you of trolling.
Florestan Bronstein draketrain	Posted - 2011.07.14 16:43:00 - [3] Yes, EVE is self-destructing. In fact that's why us players try to kill it faster with negative publicity, unsubs and forum drama. Self-destructs don't generate killmails.
Sarah Scarlett Mackenzie	Posted - 2011.07.14 16:46:00 - [4] You know that the bottom graph is in reverse?
Long John Silver	Posted - 2011.07.14 16:46:00 - [5] Dunno about self-destructing... but it is certainly self-harming, and the doctors are focused on another patient.
Cipher Jones Minmatar	Posted - 2011.07.14 16:47:00 - [6] Posting in my 10,000th Eve is dying thread. I can haz prizez now? . Adapt and overcome or become a monkey on an evolution poster.
Othran Brutor Tribe	Posted - 2011.07.14 16:48:00 - [7] You are unlikely to get a serious discussion. However you can trace the start of the decline back over 18 months now. Oh and no I'm not referring to :18months: The server is generally unstable - it crashes four or 5 times a week. There are loads of bugs which impact the business of actually flying ships. Its summer but numbers are down on last summer. Unless CCP pull some major tricks out of the bag for the winter expansion then I think the decline will become self-perpetuating. Sad but Eve's been trundling along on three wheels for a while now...
Cipher Jones Minmatar	Posted - 2011.07.14 16:50:00 - [8] Originally by: Othran You are unlikely to get a serious discussion. However you can trace the start of the decline back over 18 months now. Oh and no I'm not referring to :18months: The server is generally unstable - it crashes four or 5 times a week. There are loads of bugs which impact the business of actually flying ships. Its summer but numbers are down on last summer. Unless CCP pull some major tricks out of the bag for the winter expansion then I think the decline will become self-perpetuating. Sad but Eve's been trundling along on three wheels for a while now... I call bull****. I can find EvE is dying threads from way longer than 18 months ago. . Adapt and overcome or become a monkey on an evolution poster.
Vyl Vit Minmatar Cambio Enterprises	Posted - 2011.07.14 16:50:00 - [9] Edited by: Vyl Vit on 14/07/2011 16:50:56 There's already a post dealing with this, entitled "0.0" http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1550825 The right to free speech does not automatically include with it the right to be taken seriously.
Not-Apsalar	Posted - 2011.07.14 16:53:00 - [10] It's summer time. Time to go to the beach, go for a bike ride, etc. Who wants to play EVE when it's so nice outside?

J Kunjeh Gallente	Posted - 2011.07.14 16:55:00 - [11] Originally by: Sarah Scarlett Mackenzie You know that the bottom graph is in reverse? Snicker Yeah, look again, 2011 is on the left hand side. ~Gnosis~
NickyYo	Posted - 2011.07.14 16:55:00 - [12] Edited by: NickyYo on 14/07/2011 16:56:06 Originally by: Vyl Vit Edited by: Vyl Vit on 14/07/2011 16:50:56 There's already a post dealing with this, entitled "0.0" http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1550825 Ive never seen that thread and you post proves our points. Quite a few people are noticing it.
Amarr Citizen 532532632	Posted - 2011.07.14 16:59:00 - [13] Someone should tell him that graph reads from right to left, not left to right.
NickyYo	Posted - 2011.07.14 17:00:00 - [14] Originally by: Amarr Citizen 532532632 Someone should tell him that graph reads from right to left, not left to right. Yes i know its read from right to left.
J Kunjeh Gallente	Posted - 2011.07.14 17:02:00 - [15] Edited by: J Kunjeh on 14/07/2011 17:02:44 Originally by: NickyYo Originally by: Amarr Citizen 532532632 Someone should tell him that graph reads from right to left, not left to right. Yes i know its read from right to left. So , why then are you concerned? Activity dips up and down like that all the time, especially in the summer...but long term it trends upward. ~Gnosis~
NickyYo	Posted - 2011.07.14 17:05:00 - [16] Originally by: J Kunjeh Originally by: NickyYo Originally by: Amarr Citizen 532532632 Someone should tell him that graph reads from right to left, not left to right. Yes i know its read from right to left. So , why then are you concerned? Im happy eve is dieing and hope it does.
Florestan Bronstein draketrain	Posted - 2011.07.14 17:06:00 - [17] Edited by: Florestan Bronstein on 14/07/2011 17:07:06 Originally by: J Kunjeh So , why then are you concerned? Activity dips up and down like that all the time, especially in the summer...but long term it trends upward. Because Incarna was supposed to be a pretty big deal (with some of the very few features being a revamped NPE, a new agent finder and a new UI for the corp finder/recruitment interface) at least on par with Apocrypha? And so far we see none of that...
J Kunjeh Gallente	Posted - 2011.07.14 17:06:00 - [18] Originally by: NickyYo Originally by: J Kunjeh Originally by: NickyYo Originally by: Amarr Citizen 532532632 Someone should tell him that graph reads from right to left, not left to right. Yes i know its read from right to left. So , why then are you concerned? Im happy eve is dieing and hope it does. Oh, I see then...move along people, nothing to see here... ~Gnosis~
Jonathan Ferguson JC Ferguson and Son Ltd Ferguson Alliance	Posted - 2011.07.14 17:06:00 - [19] EVE could be fine, just need to jettison 3 things from the cargo bay and we can cancel the self-destruct: Bots. Aurum. CCP. "I represent those who voted for me, not 'everyone'. Don't give me your entitled voter schtick ..." ~CSM Chair Mittens
Rownen Kasozi Minmatar MM Incorporate	Posted - 2011.07.14 17:10:00 - [20] Originally by: NickyYo Edited by: NickyYo on 14/07/2011 16:48:40 The 0.0 effect... Goons are hardly active and its summer! Lots of players from Razor and MM either quit the game or took a break from it after losing their space. Quite a few 0.0 pvp corps have died off over time due to the blob warfare by the russians. 0.0 is now supercapital online. The only reason big alliances want 0.0 space is to sell iskies, AKA the Russians. It won't be long till these guys own all of 0.0. Look at the chinese server to see this kind of thing in action. The empire ripple effect...* All these 0.0 players then come to empire and harras carebear corporations, they then quit the game. New players don't stick with the game due to being harrassed out of it. Server population stats EDIT: Look at the graphs. http://eve-offline.net/?server=tranquility Activity is dipping Now the micro transactions? Is it possible eve is dieing? Seem's like it, now as Eve Online players we need to hit the net and start recruiting new players. start some epic battles, youtube em and the whole 9! _____________________________________ MM Inc. "We Make It, It does NOT make Us!"

soldieroffortune 258 Gallente Tribal Liberation Force	Posted - 2011.07.14 17:12:00 - [21] Originally by: Not-Apsalar It's summer time. Time to go to the beach, go for a bike ride, etc. Who wants to play EVE when it's so nice outside? Yes, it's this game called 'Real Life'. You can do things like get laid, have a couple of beers, get a tan, go swimming. It's surprising how many people in EVE have not heard of this. . . . Definitely an EVE Killer.
Rownen Kasozi Minmatar MM Incorporate	Posted - 2011.07.14 17:14:00 - [22] Originally by: soldieroffortune 258 Originally by: Not-Apsalar It's summer time. Time to go to the beach, go for a bike ride, etc. Who wants to play EVE when it's so nice outside? Yes, it's this game called 'Real Life'. You can do things like get laid, have a couple of beers, get a tan, go swimming. It's surprising how many people in EVE have not heard of this. . . . Definitely an EVE Killer. Whats skills, and prerequisite skills would I need to get the skill "Get Laid"? and doesn't a "couple of beers" has a side-effect on my Toon in Real Life? _____________________________________ MM Inc. "We Make It, It does NOT make Us!"
Holy One Gallente	Posted - 2011.07.14 17:27:00 - [23] Everything you said has a ring of truth. However. I still find loads of fun fights in my Tristan. I still find lots of others doing frig and cruiser pvp in RvB and faction war is still cheap fun. The supers and blobs in 0.0 actually make life more entertaining for lone recons and frig/hac pilots - the average individual pilot skill has plunged since around 2008 imho. There's never been more terribad pvp'ers in shiny ships. EvE is very much on a downturn tho and I agree entirely fwiw about the isk farming and RMT being the only reason to hold sov. Hopefully CCP is going to do something about it. I honestly do think if they do not sit down and rebalance EvE from top to bottom, yeah, the clock is ticking toward inevitible decline. BBQ makes me hungry for more...
Cipher Jones Minmatar	Posted - 2011.07.14 17:31:00 - [24] Originally by: soldieroffortune 258 Originally by: Not-Apsalar It's summer time. Time to go to the beach, go for a bike ride, etc. Who wants to play EVE when it's so nice outside? Yes, it's this game called 'Real Life'. You can do things like get laid, have a couple of beers, get a tan, go swimming. It's surprising how many people in EVE have not heard of this. . . . Definitely an EVE Killer. I lost a WH to getting laid once but it was in the wintertime. Swimming in the wintertime sucks tho. Unless it involves getting laid. . Adapt and overcome or become a monkey on an evolution poster.
Flynn Fetladral Caldari BlackSite Prophecy	Posted - 2011.07.14 17:39:00 - [25] Originally by: NickyYo Edited by: NickyYo on 14/07/2011 16:48:40 The 0.0 effect... Quite a few 0.0 pvp corps have died off over time due to the blob warfare by the russians. What do you think NC did before the Russians came and out blobbed them Follow Flynn on Twitter*
Ranger 1 Amarr Paragon Fury Cascade Imminent	Posted - 2011.07.14 17:40:00 - [26] I'm so confused... all these years I thought you were supposed to provide evidence that supports your arguments, instead of the opposite. ===== The world will not end in 2012, however there will be a serious nerf to Planetary Interaction.
King Aires Kwame's Executive Protection Detail	Posted - 2011.07.14 17:50:00 - [27] Eve dying? no probably not yet. What I do see a lot of is the older, original players leaving, being replaced by younger, more instant gratification types. And that has a serious negative impact of the community.
Oh'Freddled Gruntbuggly	Posted - 2011.07.14 17:59:00 - [28] Originally by: NickyYo EDIT: Look at the graphs. Activity is dipping So is consumer spending in the major economies. Do you think there might be a connection?
Rownen Kasozi Minmatar MM Incorporate	Posted - 2011.07.14 18:05:00 - [29] Edited by: Rownen Kasozi on 14/07/2011 18:05:48 Originally by: Oh'Freddled Gruntbuggly Originally by: NickyYo EDIT: Look at the graphs. Activity is dipping So is consumer spending in the major economies. Do you think there might be a connection? definitely not, If you want to get technical, when America's economy was going through the depression people STILL found money to do entertaining things, I.E. Movies. Quote: Hollywood and the Great Depression In 1934, Will Hays, head of the Motion Picture Producers and Distributors Association, said that "No medium has contributed more greatly than the film to the maintenance of the national morale during a period featured by revolution, riot and political turmoil in other countries." During the Great Depression, Hollywood played a valuable psychological and ideological role, providing reassurance and hope to a demoralized nation. Even at the Depression's depths 60 to 80 million Americans attended the movies each week, and, in the face of doubt and despair, films helped sustain national morale. [Source:http://www.digitalhistory.uh.edu/historyonline/hollywood_great_depression.cfm] So no, there is NO connection. In actuality it would be more activity expected for games such as Eve. But as the Thread starter stated, Eve is in what appears to be self-destruct mode. And it's not because of the economy, it's because CCP went ahead with their agenda to milk more money out of it's players. player activity was healthy before the whole "greed is good" thing came to light. now, not so much so. so 1+1 = 2 all day long, the economy is not the reason for low activity it is CCP's money scheme that is the cause for eve's low activity. _____________________________________ MM Inc. "We Make It, It does NOT make Us!"
Oh'Freddled Gruntbuggly	Posted - 2011.07.14 18:29:00 - [30] Edited by: Oh''Freddled Gruntbuggly on 14/07/2011 18:31:15 Originally by: soldieroffortune 258 Originally by: Not-Apsalar It's summer time. Time to go to the beach, go for a bike ride, etc. Who wants to play EVE when it's so nice outside? Yes, it's this game called 'Real Life'. You can do things like get laid, have a couple of beers, get a tan, go swimming. It's surprising how many people in EVE have not heard of this. . . . That is not real-life. That is a vacation, which is what many of the absent players are currently on. Real-life will start up again a fortnight later when they have to report back to the jobs they hate for the rest of the year. That's 'real life', and they'll all soon be back on-line trying to escape it once again. BTW, what's summertime got to do with getting laid? Do human beings have mating seasons in your part of the world?



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