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CCP Fallout
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Posted - 2011.07.15 20:42:00 -
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We wanted to update you on the EVE museum piece, the Visualizer: we're just about ready to go for the early part of next week and wanted to provide links so you can start pre-loading your favorite stuff. As these memories/propaganda posters/epic videos are posted they go into a moderation queue, and we'll pop them over into the live Visualizer site for launch early in the week. The site itself is eveisreal.net, a temporary space to just make this project happen. We will move it over into EVE domains at some point in the future.
All that said, this is a pretty unique thing that we hope you'll contribute too. We have the Aurum rewards for the whole community and the image and video contests as incentives, but we'd really hope the project itself is just cool enough on its own merits to unlock some gems of EVE player creations.
The links below will allow you to enter your favorite images or videos a bit ahead of the crowd:
Image upload
http://beta.eveisreal.net/fragments/image-contest/upload
video upload
http://beta.eveisreal.net/fragments/video-contest/upload
FAQ
Q. Moderated? Sounds dumb.
A. We will of course have control over uploaded images and videos, thatÆs kinda normal. Here are two examples that can absolutely be in the Visualizer:
http://gucomics.com/comic/?cdate=20110707
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2iu4iekX3WE
They are hilarious and weÆll take the jabs when they come and are good natured and ôEVEishö. We will moderate out personal attacks of DEVs, other players, just plain foulness, spamminess etc.
Q. Does my work have to original?
A. If you want to win a prize from the contest yes, itÆs in the terms. If youÆre adding something you found and itÆs not your own work, you canÆt win, itÆs that simple.
Q. What about websites, etc?
A. You could always Tweet a favorite site, with a short description weÆll be publishing specific tags weÆre gathering next week.
Q. How long is this going to last?
A. Two answers there; until we unlock all the Aurum prizes for the community and then hopefully just about forever in a live non-contest state.
Fallout
Associate Community Manager
CCP Hf, EVE Online
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CCP Manifest
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Posted - 2011.07.15 20:59:00 -
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This dev blog can give a smidge more info for those who might have missed it.
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CCP Manifest
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Trafficist
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Posted - 2011.07.15 21:04:00 -
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Edited by: Trafficist on 15/07/2011 21:04:31
First
Fake edit: cool
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dgastuffz
Caldari
Hell's Revenge
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Posted - 2011.07.15 21:05:00 -
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Edited by: dgastuffz on 15/07/2011 21:07:30
fix game first before we Advertising
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Marchland
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Posted - 2011.07.15 21:07:00 -
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And now EVE needs a museum because its going to be extinct by the end of 2012. It was a good run guys, now you're doing too little, too late. Roll back Incarna, let the space-games continue.
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Vincent Athena
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Posted - 2011.07.15 21:10:00 -
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Where do we enter stories, text only? Or is that not to be part of this effort?
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Dex Caliber
Caldari
Brotherhood of Heart and Steel
Iron Heart Brotherhood
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Posted - 2011.07.15 21:16:00 -
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really?...ccp aint got nothin' else better to do?? LIKE FIXING INCARNA!! or something better than a static door to stare at?? come on guys, who needs this crap. somebodies definitely got too much time on their hands, and time's a tickn' if ya get my drift.
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ChaseTheLasers
Oberon Incorporated
Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2011.07.15 21:17:00 -
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Bit of a longshot, but at Evefest this year I got up on stage and told a bit of story about how I got into eve with a few mates, and how a house full of Eve players almost resulted in us being arrested for various stunts and pranks. The last one went a bit too far and we almost all got locked up for the night.
Does anyone at CCP have a high-def, or normal def video of me doing this? I know most if not all of the 'fest was recorded. I have a standard hand held camera recording from mates there, but it's not of fantastic quality.
Cheers gents :)
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Khamal Jolstien
Caldari
Sick Tight
BricK sQuAD.
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Posted - 2011.07.15 21:19:00 -
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Sure, I'll post something. Just get in contact with me about compensation for providing advertising. I hope you're competitive for these advertising opportunities, as good advertising isn't cheap.
 Originally by: McKinlay
When you get on the batphone and the only people left in the phone book are Aeternus and BLAST it might be time to hang up.
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vlad77713
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Posted - 2011.07.15 21:21:00 -
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Originally by: Vincent Athena
Where do we enter stories, text only? Or is that not to be part of this effort?
I also would like to do this, I have a few good ones. At least I think I do.
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J Kunjeh
Gallente
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Posted - 2011.07.15 21:23:00 -
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Can't wait to see what gets submitted. I'll have to think of something good to send in myself. Great idea CCP.
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Ubiquitous Newt
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Posted - 2011.07.15 21:24:00 -
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Originally by: Khamal Jolstien
Sure, I'll post something. Just get in contact with me about compensation for providing advertising. I hope you're competitive for these advertising opportunities, as good advertising isn't cheap.
I'm with Khamal on this. Surprise! ...when your "game" caters to a social sub-set of sociopathic accountants, - and you make no effort whatsoever to either police them or get on their "good" side...this is what you get.
Summary: No, I am not interested in being your free advertising outlet. Also, "monocle."
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Guido Failhawk
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Posted - 2011.07.15 21:39:00 -
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Edited by: Guido Failhawk on 15/07/2011 21:39:54
Edited by: Guido Failhawk on 15/07/2011 21:39:30
Most of my "real life eve" involves drunken shenanigans. Stuff like being so drunk I forget to board a ship before joining a roaming gang and taking my pod 20-30 jumps before anyone notices...
edit: This includes me
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Valei Khurelem
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Posted - 2011.07.15 21:47:00 -
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Xander Hunt
Minmatar
Dead Rats Tell No Tales
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Posted - 2011.07.15 21:52:00 -
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Edited by: Xander Hunt on 15/07/2011 21:53:33
I'm really hard pressed for words about how CCP has really let me down. Getting the end users to advertise for potential end users... For free?... for Aurum??...
EVE used to be my "get away from the depression" game. Now its becoming depressing just thinking of how f'n lame this game is getting entirely because of the marketing and sales group. They have an entire advertising division, why ask about it from players?
Who ever gave them the leash to control things... well... I'd get banned for what I'm thinking, but then again, why go and *fill in whatever you'd like here* someone because of a game?
This used to be about markets, blowing stuff up, re-building, flying, communications, entertainment.... ... now? Money grab.
EDIT: Oh... By the way... The EVE community already shares their content on a small site called YouTube for the most part.
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Mag's
the united
Negative Ten.
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Posted - 2011.07.15 21:56:00 -
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Keep pushing that Aurum guys, there's nothing like forced immersion to keep the masses happy.
Originally by: CCP Zulu
Forcing players to dock at the captain's quarters is a form of what we actually wanted to get through, which is making Incarna a seamless part of the EVE Online experience. |
Lemming Lass
Minmatar
Lemmings Online
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Posted - 2011.07.15 22:27:00 -
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Great...I'll put together a story and photoshopped pic of a guy who had his monocle ripped out by some pilot who needed to sell it on the black market so he could buy a fleet of battleships.
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Emmy Mnemonic
Amarr
Lone Gunmen
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Posted - 2011.07.15 22:28:00 -
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Edited by: Emmy Mnemonic on 15/07/2011 22:34:41
On vacation atm, have no laptop with me. But i DO have my trusty iPhone! But youre "pre-release" web site does not work with iPhone (choosing a file doesn't work). Any way i dont have the stuff on my iPhone! I have the material in the form of URL links to our corps forums (public parts) and links to YouTube and Chribbas eve-files etc. Any chance you will accept linkys instead? Any chance your museum will work with modern tools like iPhones, androids and the like? If you cherish social medias, pls enable smartphone access 
Edit:
Noticed the video upload accepts youtube url's. But not the pic upload?
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Kris Kochanski
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Posted - 2011.07.15 22:51:00 -
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I have never seen so much unwarranted whining. Almost makes me embarrassed to be part of the Eve community when I read how ranting and childish some of these hydrocephalic, mouth-breathing, *******s are.
If you ask people for entertaining stories from their time playing Eve, they ***** you're leaning on them for advertising. If you give them the privilege to help the War on Lag via mass-testing on Singularity, they ***** they're unpaid beta-testers. Pathetic.
Is it really that hard to understand what CCP is doing? You all do realize they are FAR more transparent than most other developers out there, right? I'd like to continue to believe that Eve is a thinking man's (and woman's) game, but sometimes the forums don't bear that out. It's extremely surprising coming from a game with such a steep learning curve where you stand or fall on your own merit.
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Lex Starwalker
Amarr
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Posted - 2011.07.15 22:54:00 -
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CCP, please don't be like other companies who rely upon crowd-sourcing for their advertisement, outreach, and market research. Do you all work for free at CCP, or do you get a paycheck? That's what I thought.
As an author, I'm a little leery of GIVING my work away without compensation. What's in it for me?
I haven't bothered to read the fine print on this, but if I did, I'm sure I'd find the clause that states that all material submitted becomes the property of CCP and can be used at their discretion for promotional purposes or whatever with no compensation to the submitter. Does that sound about right?
I already produce plenty of advertising for EVE and CCP on my blog, TYVM.
With the current climate among your customers right now, this wasn't the best time to make this move.
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Unclean Sanchez
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Posted - 2011.07.15 23:15:00 -
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Not getting the hate for this... One of EVE's hallmarks is the effect a single player can have on the game. We saw it with the destruction of BoB and we've seen it before and since. Hell what other game lets you erect permanent structures? WoW?
So there's micro-transactions for fancy clothes, if you don't like it wear the default stuff like me. I might be tempted to get into the Noble Exchange if it had "Need For Speed"/"Gran Tourismo/every car game ever" style ship painting options. Just as long as "the red ones" DON'T actually go faster. Boom, faster than you can say "Corporate color scheme" we'd have this system take RIGHT off...
Side note... I really support that they used a 3rd currency for the micro-transactions so that this doesn't inflate/deflate ISK or PLEX values. It's like Disney Dollars. I don't care about them, I don't use them, and therefore they don't effect me.
All that said, I can't WAIT to see what the goons come up with...
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Unlce Ruckus
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Posted - 2011.07.15 23:24:00 -
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Do you folks at CCP listen to what the community says at all?
There are hundreds of posts all over this site made by people who love the game, have loved the game for years and want to continue to do so. But we all love the game not because you can buy menal eye-patches or slightly different trousers but because it was a good game to play of an evening. So sort yourselves out and fix the damn code before asking us to dance like performing monkeys for your marketeering.
Frankly noone wants AUR. Nobody cares about your commando boots or your dress uniform top. You know why? The same reason Incarna has been such a @#*%-storm. It doesn't do anything.
So what if you can wander around your own private space? With your little avatar and do all the little things like access your ship fit with a different button, or look at your ship slowly rotating.. We've had those functions for years, only back then we called it "right-clicking".
Way I see it you folks at CCP are in serious danger of losing the very thiing its taken you almost a decade to build; a dedicated fan base. You need us a hell of a lot more than we need you. If EVE gets too sucky for us there are literaly HUNDEREDS of RPGS out there we can kill time on instead. Where would CCP be without us?
So stop messing around with these gimicks and flash-in-the-pan fixes for a problem that requires genuine work to sort out. Heres what you do; fire your entire marketing divison (or at least most of them), and use their salaries to pay for expanding the programming team ten fold (programmers will work for Pop-tarts and Cola, it has been proven). Set this new team on to fixing the bugs and generally annoying features, of which there are many (which by the way messes with immersion waaaay more than not having a sodding museum), and use the rest of the money to expand the servers and FIX THE LAG!
Stop wasting our money, or we'll stop giving it to you.
PS: Aaaand, I'll tell you how to market EVE. Make it a really damn good game. Then it'll market itself.
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Shova Kais
Caldari
Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse
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Posted - 2011.07.15 23:27:00 -
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Originally by: Lex Starwalker
CCP, please don't be like other companies who rely upon crowd-sourcing for their advertisement, outreach, and market research. Do you all work for free at CCP, or do you get a paycheck? That's what I thought.
As an author, I'm a little leery of GIVING my work away without compensation. What's in it for me?
I haven't bothered to read the fine print on this, but if I did, I'm sure I'd find the clause that states that all material submitted becomes the property of CCP and can be used at their discretion for promotional purposes or whatever with no compensation to the submitter. Does that sound about right?
I already produce plenty of advertising for EVE and CCP on my blog, TYVM.
With the current climate among your customers right now, this wasn't the best time to make this move.
What move? It's a contest. It's optional. No one is forcing you to participate. Get over it.
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Reiy Fania
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Posted - 2011.07.15 23:37:00 -
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best part about eve right here is that 70% of the player base is a bunch of whinny bishes. You could go to India and see thousands of people starving in the streets and find less whining then in a npc corp channel or eve forum.
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Emmy Mnemonic
Amarr
Lone Gunmen
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Posted - 2011.07.15 23:38:00 -
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Originally by: Kris Kochanski
I have never seen so much unwarranted whining.
Agree! Its a bore to read the forums nowadays, all the whining from people is worse than anything CCP could do! It just makes me sad - really guys stop it! We have had enough of it!
Also, CCP: keep up your good work, dont listen to ALL the whiners they are not representing ALL your customers!
Also2: I used the upload video-URL website to upload links to pics and text. I hope it was not in vain?!
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Unlce Ruckus
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Posted - 2011.07.15 23:42:00 -
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Originally by: Reiy Fania
best part about eve right here is that 70% of the player base is a bunch of whinny bishes. You could go to India and see thousands of people starving in the streets and find less whining then in a npc corp channel or eve forum.
How is that relavent? We're not talking about world poverty. We're talking about a game that is meant to be community lead being ****d by advertising and flashy add on's.
And before someone goes there: I'm not whining. I'm trying to be constructive in my criticism. I love this game. I want to keep playing this game. I want to see this game made better. I want to be a part of that process. Simple as that.
S'what they mean when they say "community lead". We got no place for your apathy here.
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Unclean Sanchez
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Posted - 2011.07.15 23:47:00 -
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Originally by: Unlce Ruckus
We're talking about a game that is meant to be community lead being ****d by advertising and flashy add on's.
And before someone goes there: I'm not whining. I'm trying to be constructive in my criticism. I love this game. I want to keep playing this game. I want to see this game made better. I want to be a part of that process. Simple as that.
So then what's your problem with this contest again? It's about as close to being "part of the process" as you can get without coding something...
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Sir Aura
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Posted - 2011.07.15 23:48:00 -
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cant you just look up Battle reports for this sort of thing?
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Sgt Maru
Shadowed Command
Fatal Ascension
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Posted - 2011.07.15 23:54:00 -
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"Ya gotta help me! I'm trapped behind the door!"
"Which door?"
"THE door!!"
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Unlce Ruckus
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Posted - 2011.07.16 00:00:00 -
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Edited by: Unlce Ruckus on 16/07/2011 00:02:14
Originally by: Unclean Sanchez
So then what's your problem with this contest again? It's about as close to being "part of the process" as you can get without coding something...
My problem is that its our subscription money being spent on things that aren't needed, wanted, warranted or indeed worth paying for.
As for being part of the process, if CCP want to pay me to code then I'll code. If CCP want my imput I'd be happy to work to make the game better.
That however does not stretch to giving them free advertising and then being expected to orgasm with glee when they say they'll give me access to a pair of slightly different trousers.
To see exactly how worthless AUR is jsut look at how much it is to buy those trousers on the open market. That's because you need to sacrifice several plex's just for a poxy eyepatch (that used to be in the character creation as standard).
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Phantom Slave
Universal Pest Exterminators
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Posted - 2011.07.16 00:01:00 -
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Most of you seem to forget that we've been advertising for Ccp for years. Every person i know in real life that plays eve heard about it from word of mouth. All ccp is doing now is getting us to collectivelydo such a thing. I don't know about you guys but I have some great memories from different times in this game and I don't care how much eve has changed. I will have those memories all my life, and the least I can do to thank Ccp is to at least share a story or 2 and maybe get somebody to join the game and make their own memories.
I love this game and I hope all of you bitter vets can put your current feelings behind you and think back to your favorite times. That first time undocking, your first ship loss, the first time you scammed somebody, first awesome ship. Whatever it is, you have great memories and getting other people to make new memories with you is the whole damn point of this game.
And for those of you too bitter to want new people to have great memories, then maybe you can get new players to join so they too can become bitter.
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Tyme Xandr
Gallente
Veteran Defense Initiative
Imperium Directive
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Posted - 2011.07.16 00:03:00 -
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To all the people complaining about Incarna, get a life. Its still a friggin space game. When has CCP ever released something that was 100% before? Incarna is no exception. Enjoy the sci fi game people and get a grip on yourselves.
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Korven Brakta
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Posted - 2011.07.16 00:06:00 -
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Quit being so upbeat, can't you?
Some of us are trying to have a good old moan about this! 
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Tyme Xandr
Gallente
Veteran Defense Initiative
Imperium Directive
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Posted - 2011.07.16 00:35:00 -
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Originally by: Korven Brakta
Quit being so upbeat, can't you?
Some of us are trying to have a good old moan about this!
My main issue is these people who jump to conclusions and are emoraging about nonsense stuff is only fueling the fires of idiocy. Anyone whos ever played an MMO before should be happy as **** CCP expand the realm of EVE Online for no additional fees beyond your subscription. EVE is their vision and they already listen to the cry babies enough. Cry babies are the reasons many of the things that got nerfed we all miss so much from the past are now gone/tweaked beyond repair.
As for releasing new content, its not like CCP has ever continued with a new mode of gameplay as it was anyway (FW, PI, etc). Everyone is 'so proud' of EVE Online being full of 'adults who are too mature for wow' but all they ever do is cry like an 8 year old girl.
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Bon Hedus
Amarr
Voice of the Blood Raiders
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Posted - 2011.07.16 00:44:00 -
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My EVE REAL CONTENT... Eve was good then CCP lied and brought in MT and a Door. I don't know how else to explain it.
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Unclean Sanchez
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Posted - 2011.07.16 00:52:00 -
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Edited by: Unclean Sanchez on 16/07/2011 00:54:12
To be honest If I even bothered to make something for this contest (and I don't plan to) and I won (I wouldn't) I'd just put my prize on the market and spend the ISK on something that I -DID- want... (Sansha control tower... I'm looking at you)
Seriously, do you guys get this upset at things like the alliance tournament or the ships they give out as prizes? Or how about the birthday presents they give out? Do you REALLY want to tell me things like the apotheosis shuttle are unfair?
It's a pair of SPACE PANTS. If I'm ratting and someone sneaks up on me because I was in winamp instead of watching local... I don't give a crap WHAT color his space pants were. I just want to know what his fitting was and where I can get my revenge.
As for the free advertizing, I talk about this game all the time. Hell I point my friends at the Zero Punctuation review of EVE to anyone interested. I see ZERO problem with this contest, and applaud the fact that they are willing to REWARD the people who are already doing this by making previous stuff eligible.
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AveryFaneActual
Northern Coalition.
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Posted - 2011.07.16 01:20:00 -
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Monocles are real
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Shepard Book
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Posted - 2011.07.16 01:24:00 -
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Great Promo! I am looking forward to see what is submited.
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Solosky
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Posted - 2011.07.16 01:26:00 -
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Sadly, I missed most important part of this: how much Aurum will I get for participation? I cannot find it in the text - and cannot belive someone expect people will work for "greed is good" CCP for free.
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AveryFaneActual
Northern Coalition.
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Posted - 2011.07.16 01:27:00 -
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Originally by: Bon Hedus
My EVE REAL CONTENT... Eve was good then CCP lied and brought in MT and a Door. I don't know how else to explain it.
A monocle will show you what lays beyond that door
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J Kunjeh
Gallente
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Posted - 2011.07.16 01:33:00 -
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Originally by: Kris Kochanski
I have never seen so much unwarranted whining. Almost makes me embarrassed to be part of the Eve community when I read how ranting and childish some of these hydrocephalic, mouth-breathing, *******s are.
If you ask people for entertaining stories from their time playing Eve, they ***** you're leaning on them for advertising. If you give them the privilege to help the War on Lag via mass-testing on Singularity, they ***** they're unpaid beta-testers. Pathetic.
Is it really that hard to understand what CCP is doing? You all do realize they are FAR more transparent than most other developers out there, right? I'd like to continue to believe that Eve is a thinking man's (and woman's) game, but sometimes the forums don't bear that out. It's extremely surprising coming from a game with such a steep learning curve where you stand or fall on your own merit.
This....a milllllion times, this... The whine factor had gone nuclear and it's a sad state of affairs. Hopefully the whiners will just go away soon.
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J Kunjeh
Gallente
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Posted - 2011.07.16 01:36:00 -
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Originally by: Unlce Ruckus
Frankly noone wants AUR. Nobody cares about your commando boots or your dress uniform top. You know why? The same reason Incarna has been such a @#*%-storm. It doesn't do anything.
Yeah! I'm kinda miffed myself that these gorram sun-goggles don't edit out tripe such as the above. Oh yeah...and if I had an iskie for every time a poster tried to speak for everyone...
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Jack Tronic
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Posted - 2011.07.16 01:50:00 -
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Edited by: Jack Tronic on 16/07/2011 01:56:32
Edited by: Jack Tronic on 16/07/2011 01:52:36
Edited by: Jack Tronic on 16/07/2011 01:52:00
Sadly one can't submit classics to the propaganda museum such as the old goonswarm videos which are still 100% better than anything CCP has yet to put out. For example Little Bees: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vfv1QtZDirY or I Robbed a Goon: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WIGk0hRPmk0
Or ones from goons 2.0 such as TEST: Newbies Welcome, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=96b7Jk5xCTQ
These videos are some of the best there is, especially the TEST one, a billion times better than anything imho(more creativity than most boring OMG PVP videos I've seen being just boring fraps). It encourages new players more than anything.
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Unclean Sanchez
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Posted - 2011.07.16 02:09:00 -
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Originally by: Jack Tronic
These videos are some of the best there is, especially the TEST one, a billion times better than anything imho(more creativity than most boring OMG PVP videos I've seen being just boring fraps). It encourages new players more than anything.
Absolutely agreed
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Caspardian
Federal Defence Union
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Posted - 2011.07.16 02:55:00 -
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Edited by: Caspardian on 16/07/2011 02:56:05
In my opinion, both the whiners and the, um, "anti-whiners" are in the wrong.
The whiners have valid points, and to be quite honest, I agree with them; Incarna is basically useless and just forces me to take an extra minute or two to dock and undock, where it used to take less than a minute. In fact, that Incarna "feature" has caused me to start playing a LOT less (seriously, just sitting for a full minute gets really really boring). It's barely an hour a week now, compared to what was often an hour or two a day before the expansion. However, I think it's probably best to just say what you think is wrong with it and then unsubscribe, rather than post a long rant over it (though that point may wind up being moot since I'm posting this). Also, the NeX makes me groan.
Still, the others need to respect the fact that the whiners usually have valid points. Also, they're cluttering the forums just as much as the whiners (again, that point may be moot since I'm posting this).
To be quite honest, this is probably the last I look at the forums for a while anyhow. I'll just unsubscribe until something changes and I can be logged in and moving within 30 seconds like I used to.
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Tyme Xandr
Gallente
Veteran Defense Initiative
Imperium Directive
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Posted - 2011.07.16 03:06:00 -
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Originally by: Caspardian
Edited by: Caspardian on 16/07/2011 02:56:05
In my opinion, both the whiners and the, um, "anti-whiners" are in the wrong.
The whiners have valid points, and to be quite honest, I agree with them; Incarna is basically useless and just forces me to take an extra minute or two to dock and undock, where it used to take less than a minute. In fact, that Incarna "feature" has caused me to start playing a LOT less (seriously, just sitting for a full minute gets really really boring). It's barely an hour a week now, compared to what was often an hour or two a day before the expansion. However, I think it's probably best to just say what you think is wrong with it and then unsubscribe, rather than post a long rant over it (though that point may wind up being moot since I'm posting this). Also, the NeX makes me groan.
Still, the others need to respect the fact that the whiners usually have valid points. Also, they're cluttering the forums just as much as the whiners (again, that point may be moot since I'm posting this).
To be quite honest, this is probably the last I look at the forums for a while anyhow. I'll just unsubscribe until something changes and I can be logged in and moving within 30 seconds like I used to.
Sounds like another whiner, since u can uncheck the stations interior and play EVE again without waiting for CQ to load. as far as im concerned ... station spinners dont have much to complain about since theyre not even playing the game themselves.
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Quadima
Gallente
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Posted - 2011.07.16 04:07:00 -
[47]
Everyone just upload screenshots of THE door. Or videos that show the same thing.
Maybe they get a clue...
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o0IlililI0o
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Posted - 2011.07.16 07:10:00 -
[48]
Nah, give us more of everything instead - more clothes on NOX - but NO ships or ship-modules (that will break the game)
And at the same time you can fix the lag, fix the station view and remove the silly incursion (what a waste of time that was)
Oh and give us some new T1 and T2 ships instead (can never get to many ships in a game)
This game is a big part of my life, pls dont ruin it.
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J Kunjeh
Gallente
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Posted - 2011.07.16 07:15:00 -
[49]
Originally by: Caspardian
Edited by: Caspardian on 16/07/2011 02:56:05
Still, the others need to respect the fact that the whiners usually have valid points. Also, they're cluttering the forums just as much as the whiners (again, that point may be moot since I'm posting this).
It's not that having a valid point and expressing it here is unwanted, it's the whining and kvetching and outright nastiness that needs to go.
~Gnosis~ |
Nyphur
Pillowsoft
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Posted - 2011.07.16 08:40:00 -
[50]
If this is all about showcasing EVE's living history, why can we not submit all the epic news stories that have occured over the years? Or fanfest coverage, for that matter. Or interviews, or popular opinion pieces, or guides. It's a shame this has to be only images and video. The tweets you're going to collect don't sound like they'll help much with this either as I'm not about to spam up twitter with three years worth of links to my best content, nor do I think you'd appreciate that.
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Elarath
Gallente
Mobile Defloration Service
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Posted - 2011.07.16 08:49:00 -
[51]
Just let my T3 cruiser fly in the right direction and i'll be fine - yes... whine whine... BUT i almost agree with the most posts, eve was (and is..) a part of my life and i hope to keep on playing as long as it's breathing and kinda living world just as it was ever before.
Fix the new HUGH (like the big beasts in starship troopers) bugs and keep on doing your work like ever before, with good ideas, open ears for the community and by heart.
I think if all these important game-fixes are done, most of the community will go back on playing and well... care or don't care about a DOOR and some nice and smoothy pants... AND of course will have much more intention and commitment on your (or should i say our..?) ''advertising'' project - to come back to the roots of the topic...
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Abrazzar
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Posted - 2011.07.16 09:13:00 -
[52]
Now if EVE had any real content, I'd share it, right now the reality of EVE looks like a minmatar toddler's toybox, including duct tape.
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FC Tyler Durden
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Posted - 2011.07.16 09:34:00 -
[53]
Originally by: CCP Fallout
A. If you want to win a prize from the contest yes, itÆs in the terms.
I'm probably stupid and/or sleep deprived, but I couldn't find the terms anywhere. Could you provide a link or give me a hint where I should look for them?
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Joan de Arc
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Posted - 2011.07.16 10:24:00 -
[54]
alright, first of all, fallout, i think ur alright. please ban all these people who have not been nice to you.
second, what about all of us untalanted people? i, for one, dont know how to make a full blown war experience, since no1 want to get destroyed by me to replicate the war situation.
i dont know how to make a picture of my experience, dont even know if thats enough since it was a 2 hour experience.
how could we ever make an eve is real thing?
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Mashie Saldana
Minmatar
Veto Corp
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Posted - 2011.07.16 10:41:00 -
[55]
Did someone hide the Terms and Conditions the door?
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Toovhon
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Posted - 2011.07.16 12:29:00 -
[56]
The Door is real.
And until you stop giving me a giant finger every time I shun your stupid inefficient, waste of time, feature poor (even compared to the old docking bay!!) CQ, you can go [censored] [censored] insofar as getting any free advertising from me.
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The Door! |
Deterro
Caldari
Noir.
Noir. Mercenary Group
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Posted - 2011.07.16 13:52:00 -
[57]
CCP, I understand this is new, but can you at least INCLUDE the terms & conditions we all just agree to anyway?
http://beta.eveisreal.net/#!/about/rules
^This doesn't work! (lol). Fix it, now please. Thank you!
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Noir. Mercenary | Caldari Supporter | Businessman | BTL Fleetman | Sansha's Nightmare |
Sraik Doubter
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Posted - 2011.07.16 13:59:00 -
[58]
Here's my content:
You have cancelled your EVE Online subscription.
Your account will be suspended at the end of the current subscription period, expiring on 06 September 2011.
Your characters will be stored safely and be ready for you to enjoy again should you decide to return.
If you feel that this cancellation has been made in error, you can quickly and easily reopen your account by clicking below.
How about instead of having a "museum piece" project you revisit and fix some of your game features.
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SvendHansen
Universal Risk Strategies
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Posted - 2011.07.16 14:03:00 -
[59]
Originally by: Kris Kochanski
I have never seen so much unwarranted whining. Almost makes me embarrassed to be part of the Eve community when I read how ranting and childish some of these hydrocephalic, mouth-breathing, *******s are.
If you ask people for entertaining stories from their time playing Eve, they ***** you're leaning on them for advertising. If you give them the privilege to help the War on Lag via mass-testing on Singularity, they ***** they're unpaid beta-testers. Pathetic.
Is it really that hard to understand what CCP is doing? You all do realize they are FAR more transparent than most other developers out there, right? I'd like to continue to believe that Eve is a thinking man's (and woman's) game, but sometimes the forums don't bear that out. It's extremely surprising coming from a game with such a steep learning curve where you stand or fall on your own merit.
Thanks you. People talk about the game like itÆs your wife doing you wrong. If you got a problem with a door, DonÆt look at it. Hell for that matter they added an option to turn off the station environment. And if you donÆt like the monocle, donÆt buy it. Ok problem solved. As anything else if you stand still, you will be left behind. Look at some of the old YouTube video and tell me if you want to go back to those graphics? The game be long gone by now. The competition it taught out there. No new players would start playing the game if the game was like it was a few years ago. IÆm sure the game costs CCP considerable more to maintain now than it did back then. Eve needs all the marketing they can get. And for the rest of us, JUST PLAY THE GAME. Most of the old features are still there. CCP created a one of a kind game. I say we just play the Game and give CCP trust that they will keep making eve one of a kind
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Imiarr Timshae
Caldari
Funny Men In Funny Hats
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Posted - 2011.07.16 14:30:00 -
[60]
Posting in a "Even CCP knows they made Eve so **** that they no longer know how to advertise it" thread.
I can see the board meeting now...
"What do we say about it to get people to play? There's nothing good anymore."
"Well, the players still play it. Why not ask them to make stuff about why they play it?"
"Great plan... should we give them aurum or something?"
"You're fired."
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Originally by: GM Horse
Remember kids, both meth and macro use are Really Quite Bad Things.
Originally by: CCP Shadow
Tragic smelting accidents.
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Keen Fallsword
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Posted - 2011.07.16 14:55:00 -
[61]
Sorry but i must ask. You want me to provide you marketing content ? For free ? Coz you say that all game related materials are your property ? Nice joke :) ! I want 90$ ! for any upload that you use. Stick have two sides. CCP :) Paypal transfer is my fave. Let me know what you think ! I dont want Aurum I want REAL CASH ! Same as you. Sorry :)
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TrimethylChromiumdioxide
Caldari
Infinatech
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Posted - 2011.07.16 15:21:00 -
[62]
No.
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Ami Bombette
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Posted - 2011.07.16 15:35:00 -
[63]
Can I submit a screen shot of my unsubscription of my alt? Gettin' ****ed about AUR is pretty real.
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Rer Eirikr
Gallente
Clearly Compensating
Concordiat Alliance
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Posted - 2011.07.16 16:21:00 -
[64]
I have a great story but now there's no where to put it. 
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London
Imminent Ruin
Dirt Nap Squad.
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Posted - 2011.07.16 16:32:00 -
[65]
Originally by: Dex Caliber
really?...ccp aint got nothin' else better to do?? LIKE FIXING INCARNA!! or something better than a static door to stare at?? come on guys, who needs this crap. somebodies definitely got too much time on their hands, and time's a tickn' if ya get my drift.
Because the people that run the community stuff fix bugs and make content, right??
Yes, CCP is a single entity that can focus on one thing, and ONLY ONE THING at a time...
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Create a Starship contest entry: Naga Frigate |
Relleno Concarne
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Posted - 2011.07.16 16:33:00 -
[66]
Edited by: Relleno Concarne on 16/07/2011 16:35:18
I would like to post a video of me doing weird things to corpses IRL, because CCP won't let me do those things in Eve. But my dungeon buddy told me I could get arrested for those vids.
Is that true? If so, could I come to Iceland to do the videos? Are your corpses really cold? Cuz that might hurt.
P.S. Please fix the indicator that incorrectly shows me as being jammed even when there are no NPCs around. kthx |
Naomi Wildfire
Amarr
Spricer
Raiden.
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Posted - 2011.07.16 16:58:00 -
[67]
I really hope that you need content in the videos, that would exclude mintchip from it
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flank steak
Caldari
Super Batungwaa Ninja Warriors
0ccupational Hazzard
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Posted - 2011.07.16 17:01:00 -
[68]
The fact that people are complaining about this just proves how the forums are riddled with people who are just searching for something the ***** about.
this is an opportunity to SHARE WHAT YOU LOVE ABOUT EVE, and if you never loved anything about EVE then why the hell do you sit on the forums and complain you miserable pieces of ****
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Gracillus
Afterhours Surgery Social Club
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Posted - 2011.07.16 17:46:00 -
[69]
Originally by: flank steak
The fact that people are complaining about this just proves how the forums are riddled with people who are just searching for something the ***** about.
this is an opportunity to SHARE WHAT YOU LOVE ABOUT EVE, and if you never loved anything about EVE then why the hell do you sit on the forums and complain you miserable pieces of ****
^^ This
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Hakaru Ishiwara
Minmatar
Republic Military School
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Posted - 2011.07.16 18:04:00 -
[70]
Now, if only I could get some sort of animation of frozen corpses scissoring furiously in-space. For me, that is the EVE end-game and the primary reason why I would say to my friends, family and associates that "I was there."
I must state that I do not like CCP Marketing leeching off of my personal moment of enlightenment.
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Xandralkus
Caldari
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Posted - 2011.07.16 19:45:00 -
[71]
Making an "I was there" promotional video of an interceptor rush obviously works better than making one based around getting bubbled and popped.
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Danny Centauri
Minmatar
Sebiestor Tribe
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Posted - 2011.07.16 20:11:00 -
[72]
Just wanted to pop down to whine about people whining. CCP isn't doing as bad a job as we make out even though their PR is quite frankly terrible.
Right now CCP is developing 2 other products alongside EVE with around 400 members of staff, and they are still hiring. To say that the CCP staff running projects like this shouldn't do so is ridiculous you always have to market your product, EVE online adverts appear all over the place this is just another part of their strategy. I love all the fix the game before marketing bull**** its hardly like your marketeers could fix EVE by becoming code monkeys over night.
Never mind a fruitless battle against the trolls, just remember that what we see of WIS now is the test bed and will prevent problems in the future. EVE is a space game and they still have people working on that however by adding things in like WIS you open up to a bigger user base meaning more money for CCP and faster development.
On a final note I take back all of the positive comments I said if CCP doesn't get off their ass and sort out the problem where they lack art people so we can have finished features. The majority of incarnas problems come down to not having art work done fast enough. No missile turret designs, a half full NEX store (of overpriced items) and only one race station environment. Learn to outsource guys seriously if you have 300% of the usual artwork requirements for 6 months wake up and move to a more dynamic staffing method of either short term contracts or outsourcing to other companies.
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Paks Blade
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Posted - 2011.07.16 21:03:00 -
[73]
You should hold a contest. It would encourage more people to upload submissions.
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Tony 2fingers
Gallente
The Scope
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Posted - 2011.07.16 21:27:00 -
[74]
Real? ill give a real moment.
Log into to EVE on 11 July, server crashes, CCP states " Hamster died or whatever", server back up a hour later.
log in 5 days later, log in server crashes, like the same for a week, CCP states" new hamster died" or whatever.
Eve is real, really crash worthy.
This is real, i was there i tell you
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Chelb
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Posted - 2011.07.16 21:33:00 -
[75]
Incarna, the Windows Vista of CCP  . Again a crash!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Asta Ddu
Minmatar
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Posted - 2011.07.16 21:37:00 -
[76]
EVE is real - servers down again!
EVE is real - servers down again!!! more crashes than days this week!
Suggest that you fire the marketing team and use the money on QA!
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Jigster
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Posted - 2011.07.16 22:16:00 -
[77]
How about **** off and fix your game you ****s?
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Alain Musouka
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Posted - 2011.07.16 22:29:00 -
[78]
I WAS THERE when the server crashed... again. I was also there when it did the same thing the next day.. and the next.. and the next
Yea, totally Epic -.-
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Maggeridon Thoraz
Amarr
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Posted - 2011.07.16 22:35:00 -
[79]
it is real, I experienced 2 server crashes today and I was there already yesterday..
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Croniac
Merlin Reach
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Posted - 2011.07.16 22:42:00 -
[80]
Eve is real... Broken.
I was there the day I was expected to explain to some new guys how to set up their overview for PVP, and get them squared away on comms, but in a fit of believable and immersive game play the universe kinda just winked out of existence.
I Was There!
Good enough? Send me my cookie.
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Cooper Anderson Stewart
Caldari
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Posted - 2011.07.16 22:58:00 -
[81]
I was there, logged in to the best csm fireside chat and getting answers and we had to stop because the csm, white tree, mittani etc couldnt get questions anymore as the server died.
Was a great csm chat for as negative as id been seems all the magic happens in the winter expansion.
Eve is real. It takes great patience and is laced with dissappointment. Just too real sometimes for an entertainment product.
"CCP misjudged what type of customer is loyal to EVE, not an impulse shopper who want to stare in the mirror for hours, they hunt humans. Hours cloaked? Definately."
Dr. Garamond Trebuchet |
Sto Lo
Gallente
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Posted - 2011.07.16 22:58:00 -
[82]
This old programmer hands out cookies, and chuckles "CCP you have my sympathy".
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Reana Shadows
Caldari
Damocles Society
Quebec United Legions
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Posted - 2011.07.16 23:45:00 -
[83]
Edited by: Reana Shadows on 16/07/2011 23:52:18
Well EVE is guetting old from beta in 2003 and we are in 2011 and some have been rolling (or stroling lol) their caracter since the release so there is a living history behind this fantastic MMO. It's a good idea and an alternative way to advertise EVE rich universe.
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Mr Mvoice
Gallente
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Posted - 2011.07.17 00:47:00 -
[84]
So I was thinking "what a great idea" and "how can I submitt my stuff".
And then it came to me.. for me to do my "I was there.. ", I would acctually need game that worked and did not crash all the time. So I thougth to myself, I can fix this...
So here's my idea, can I submit my "How I could not be there" based around how much C***p Incarna and CQ is, and the frequent down times since Incarna introduction ??
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OHU812
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Posted - 2011.07.17 02:53:00 -
[85]
I was here.... just to say hello.
as for free advertising, I don't much think so.
I'll keep my fun times over the many years playing EVE to myself. I'm a hermit that way and enjoyed being able to generate hate mail from the skills I worked on for several years now.
Apparently from what little I got from the CSM fireside meeting, EVE will be changing quite a bit in the coming months. One thing changing as they said WOULD NOT in times past is the implementation of NON-VANITY convenience items.
You ask WTF is convenience items? I don't know but the wording for me is ominous. Oh well.....
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Valarian Blacksun
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Posted - 2011.07.17 02:54:00 -
[86]
I can translate this to
"we need to focus on something positive becouse we ****ed up mega and our ceo is busy sniffing paint remover instead of jamming the "nobel" store back into his anus, please do this and buy more aurum, and dont ask any questions"
I can submit a picture of "the door"?
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Uuali
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Posted - 2011.07.17 06:20:00 -
[87]
I'm sorry the wording on the site. The idea. I'm not getting it at all.
It sounds like I'm supposed to show how EVE saved my life or something.
"Fused"?
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Misunderstood Genius
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Posted - 2011.07.17 07:10:00 -
[88]
While I agree that CCP should pay us AUR 24.000 for every upload to support their advertisement I hope that all these boring EVE/CCP whiners and haters finally terminate their accounts if they believe that the worst game out there is broken.
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Misunderstood Genius
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Posted - 2011.07.17 07:12:00 -
[89]
Originally by: Reana Shadows
Edited by: Reana Shadows on 17/07/2011 00:07:56
Well EVE is guetting old from beta in 2003 and we are in 2011 and some have been rolling (or stroling lol) their caracter since the release so there is a living history behind this fantastic MMO. It's a good idea and an alternative way to advertise EVE rich universe.
As of alot of complaining and generalised whining peeps should be obliged to log their main character to post such idiocies in the forum 
THIS!
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Pod Amarr
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Posted - 2011.07.17 07:42:00 -
[90]
Originally by: Emmy Mnemonic
Originally by: Kris Kochanski
I have never seen so much unwarranted whining.
Agree! Its a bore to read the forums nowadays, all the whining from people is worse than anything CCP could do! It just makes me sad - really guys stop it! We have had enough of it!
Also, CCP: keep up your good work, dont listen to ALL the whiners they are not representing ALL your customers!
Also2: I used the upload video-URL website to upload links to pics and text. I hope it was not in vain?!
Both you please take your mouths out of CCP's ass.
Being transparent is one thing. Saying you are transparent and lying your ass off is another thing. While I personally getting tired of the same post all over the forums it does not change the facts.
-Pod |
Midori Amiiko
Gallente
NerdHerd
Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2011.07.17 08:24:00 -
[91]
It seems that a lot of posters are complaining that the monocle doesn't DO anything...let's see about that. The item description says this:
A common implant found throughout New Eden, the Looking Glass ocular implant offers vision enhancement or replacement beyond the capabilities of low-profile prosthetics. Filters, lenses, NeoCom interface, and blackbox video recorders are all standard issue with this implant.
What if you could record video of your exploits in stations? What if those filters let you see if a player had any concealed weapons, if there's shooting in stations? What if the NeoCom interface provided some new functionality or ease-of-use? A lot of what-ifs, sure. But I haven't been on the other side of that door yet. My main beef with the monocle is that the description says it's a "common" implant. Isn't common stuff supposed to be inexpensive?
Personally, I'd like to be able to buy some breast implants. They wouldn't do anything, but you'd all be staring at my E-boobs. And a pair of pants that really showed off my already bangin Jin-Mei ass wouldn't do anything, except make me look even better than I already do.
Who knows what will be going on in stations in a year or two. If we're shooting at each other, maybe an armored jacket would help me withstand the constant assaults of the haters out there. It might even withstand the violence of my pod exploding so my frozen corspe wouldn't be naked. I could float in style!
It seems a questionable thing to complain that NeX items don't do anything. We don't want them to do anything, right? 
"I wish to have no connection with any ship that does not sail fast; for I intend to go in harm's way."
John Paul Jones 1778 |
Misunderstood Genius
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Posted - 2011.07.17 10:22:00 -
[92]
Originally by: Pod Amarr
Originally by: Emmy Mnemonic
Originally by: Kris Kochanski
I have never seen so much unwarranted whining.
Agree! Its a bore to read the forums nowadays, all the whining from people is worse than anything CCP could do! It just makes me sad - really guys stop it! We have had enough of it!
Also, CCP: keep up your good work, dont listen to ALL the whiners they are not representing ALL your customers!
Also2: I used the upload video-URL website to upload links to pics and text. I hope it was not in vain?!
Both you please take your mouths out of CCP's ass.
Being transparent is one thing. Saying you are transparent and lying your ass off is another thing. While I personally getting tired of the same post all over the forums it does not change the facts.
Probably true. Dunno. But why don't people hating CCP and broken EVE all the time not just terminate their accounts, leave and stop posting their useless tears and hate on the forums everytime. These idots will never be satisfied. So my recommendation is: play another game like awesome Perpetuum or do your own lag-free unbroken space-game if it's that simple to do. I am tired of all these smart-a**es without a RL.
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Nomad Vherokic
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Posted - 2011.07.17 11:03:00 -
[93]
Been beta-testing this game since 2003, that's pretty real. Any news when it's going to get a release? |
xxxTRUSTxxx
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Posted - 2011.07.17 11:26:00 -
[94]
took a first glance at this and thought hmm, interesting, then i saw "We have the Aurum rewards for the whole community"
ahha now i see, no thanks, Aurum & Nex are not for me.
not being a hater, all those who want to play dress up can go right ahead and have fun with their dolly.
some of the community want barbie & ken in space, some of the community don't, some of the community don't care but will never want anything to do with playing dolls.
it's a shame that CCP can't or won't see it this way, so they setup a reward system for this fine idea but decide to reward only those that want to play dress up.
this is why people get all worked up and why lots don't play a part in it.
i think that's a shame.
MESSAGE !
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Misunderstood Genius
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Posted - 2011.07.17 14:01:00 -
[95]
Edited by: Misunderstood Genius on 17/07/2011 14:01:04
Originally by: Nomad Vherokic
Been beta-testing this game since 2003, that's pretty real. Any news when it's going to get a release?
It took 11 years to find out that EVE is the wrong game for you? Have you ever been there?
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TrimethylChromiumdioxide
Caldari
Infinatech
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Posted - 2011.07.17 15:44:00 -
[96]
Originally by: Misunderstood Genius
Originally by: Pod Amarr
Originally by: Emmy Mnemonic
Originally by: Kris Kochanski
I have never seen so much unwarranted whining.
Agree! Its a bore to read the forums nowadays, all the whining from people is worse than anything CCP could do! It just makes me sad - really guys stop it! We have had enough of it!
Also, CCP: keep up your good work, dont listen to ALL the whiners they are not representing ALL your customers!
Also2: I used the upload video-URL website to upload links to pics and text. I hope it was not in vain?!
Both you please take your mouths out of CCP's ass.
Being transparent is one thing. Saying you are transparent and lying your ass off is another thing. While I personally getting tired of the same post all over the forums it does not change the facts.
Probably true. Dunno. But why don't people hating CCP and broken EVE all the time not just terminate their accounts, leave and stop posting their useless tears and hate on the forums everytime. These idots will never be satisfied. So my recommendation is: play another game like awesome Perpetuum or do your own lag-free unbroken space-game if it's that simple to do. I am tired of all these smart-a**es without a RL.
Personally I don't see why people bother to whine about other people whining. But if you're like me, your main has expired, and the only pvp you get now is wot and EVE forum pvp. At least until the alts expire.
If you love your barbies in space so much go play it and get off the forums. It's useless to tell people to stop when they still have access to go on posting (even if they can't play), and if they feel strongly about what they're arguing about.
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Bon Hedus
Amarr
Voice of the Blood Raiders
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Posted - 2011.07.17 18:14:00 -
[97]
But why don't people hating CCP and broken EVE all the time not just terminate their accounts, leave and stop posting their useless tears and hate on the forums everytime. These idots will never be satisfied. So my recommendation is: play another game like awesome Perpetuum or do your own lag-free unbroken space-game if it's that simple to do. I am tired of all these smart-a**es without a RL.
It isn't about the hate, it is about the love. Anytime a game can pull you into it to where you enjoy logging in and playing for hours, build friendships from around the world and have a community second to none, it is love. The issue is where CCP has taken that and broke it. We were given a sandbox to play in, promises made in regards to that sandbox and then had it broken. Those of us whining and complaining isn't about the hate, it is for the love of something lost.
The complaints are for a hope of change, for CCP to see the light and reverse course. As it stands, there is still hope. However, I have voted with my subscription and until it runs out, I will still post with the hope that EVE can be returned to the promise of what it was/could be.
Bon
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Heavy Lag Spike II belonging to EvE Cluster Node #0815 hits your Connection, wrecking your latency to 998ms |
Misunderstood Genius
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Posted - 2011.07.17 18:42:00 -
[98]
Edited by: Misunderstood Genius on 17/07/2011 18:43:28
Originally by: Bon Hedus
But why don't people hating CCP and broken EVE all the time not just terminate their accounts, leave and stop posting their useless tears and hate on the forums everytime. These idots will never be satisfied. So my recommendation is: play another game like awesome Perpetuum or do your own lag-free unbroken space-game if it's that simple to do. I am tired of all these smart-a**es without a RL.
It isn't about the hate, it is about the love. Anytime a game can pull you into it to where you enjoy logging in and playing for hours, build friendships from around the world and have a community second to none, it is love. The issue is where CCP has taken that and broke it. We were given a sandbox to play in, promises made in regards to that sandbox and then had it broken. Those of us whining and complaining isn't about the hate, it is for the love of something lost.
The complaints are for a hope of change, for CCP to see the light and reverse course. As it stands, there is still hope. However, I have voted with my subscription and until it runs out, I will still post with the hope that EVE can be returned to the promise of what it was/could be.
Bon
I log in with my main daily since 2005. The first year I was carebearing then I went slowly into PvP. When I compare EVE in 2005/2006 with EVE actual I see nothing broken. I see still an awesome and unique MMORPG what has evolved and is looking better than ever expected. I have no idea what you guys expect when you log in but me and my bigger group of corp/alliance mates have fun all the time. There's nothing what really fu*ks up our gameplay except my RL. A server crash? Lag? Sorry, but that's something you have to live with. Probably someone should really explain me what has killed the sandbox? CQ, MT? TBH, there's a lot of stuff in EVE I don't like, I am not interested in. So I just ignore, turn station env off, will not go shopping in the NeX-store and a still of a door? Sorry, it's not worth the time to complain about something what is definitely an interim-solution. Ship spinning gone? Not a drama, because the action is in space. Lag? Will never be fixed because it's technically mission impossible the more ppl join. If I quit EVE some day because I am bored I will not post my tears on the forums. I just keep on moving...
Probably I need a list of what you think is broken and ruins all the fun.
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lordakumatatar
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Posted - 2011.07.17 18:59:00 -
[99]
I been playing eveoffline for 5 nearly 6years and the game has gone form excellent to really s$@t. Over the weekend i have not yet been able to log in as every time i try the servers crashed, the database had major issues emergency reboots, games hit max capacity at 48.000 players. yeah eves great join us all in sitting and looking at login screen.
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Misunderstood Genius
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Posted - 2011.07.17 19:15:00 -
[100]
Originally by: lordakumatatar
I been playing eveoffline for 5 nearly 6years and the game has gone form excellent to really s$@t. Over the weekend i have not yet been able to log in as every time i try the servers crashed, the database had major issues emergency reboots, games hit max capacity at 48.000 players. yeah eves great join us all in sitting and looking at login screen.
This seems to be more an issue with your internet connection and probably hardware. The number of server crashes and emergency reboots over the last 6 years are a joke. I am not experiencing looking at login screens all the time.
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Johanna Macbeth
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Posted - 2011.07.17 19:18:00 -
[101]
If there's anything that'll get me to leave Eve, it wont be the company practices, I assure you that of that...
You care about the game, that's why you've become so upset about all this. I've seen friends rage quit over this incarna crap... Y'know what? Nobody is perfect, we all make mistakes. Get over yourself and play something else if it really bothers you, that much.
But as much as you gripe about CCP dropping the ball with Incarna, you completely fail to comprehend the impact your behavior has been having on the morale in the game with all of your 'poo pooing' and the negative impact you're having on the games image.
Suffice to say I am terribly unimpressed with folks when it comes down to protesting -in- a game... get on with your lives and let those who don't care or still enjoy the game to continue their experience without your negative attitude.
As far as "rewarding only those who want 'Barbie and Ken' in space"... the items bought with Aurum can still be sold on market... so... yeah... everyone can still profit from it.
I think this museum is a cool idea, it'd be neat to see some of the fan works out there. The chronicles are cool, the trailers on youtube get my heart pumping and I've seen some hella funny and impressive fan-made works. Having a localized service like this, with a rewards program so players can get something back for their efforts, is a damn cool idea.
Fly savvy. o/
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Misunderstood Genius
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Posted - 2011.07.17 19:28:00 -
[102]
The EVE forums are like a big student party. The party room is not special, the beer just will cause a headache next morning, the music is not really awesome and you have always these electrical engineering nerds wasting their whole evening with disputing about their hardware skills and they find out that the party is boring, the music sucks, the beer sucks, the girls suck - because the girls ignore them - while other guys just enjoy the party, they get drunk, the music is going to be better the more you get drunk and finally some of them have great sex with these graphic design sl*ts... and a bad hang-over next day.
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Brujo Loco
Amarr
Brujeria Teologica
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Posted - 2011.07.18 03:48:00 -
[103]
Hahaha, the NERVE of you guys to actually want this out of the community.
The nerve.
So after milking us for money, you now want free advertising??? Moderated and probably hidden under a bunch of clauses that make said material practically if not outright yours to exploit at will.
The dupes giving you away their material are one thing, but actually thinking this would be a good moment to showcase and somehow reverse engineer the wave of hatred out there by showing you have a wonderful unified community that sing Kumbaya as they pew pew is kinda ... insulting?
Good luck with your museum, I might contribute when eve closes, to remember the good old days, not now.
PD: Why don't you add this? THE DOOR IS REAL <--- that video is an actual worthy addition to your museum.
---Eve is not dying, its being murdered ----
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Brujo Loco
Amarr
Brujeria Teologica
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Posted - 2011.07.18 04:06:00 -
[104]
Originally by: Misunderstood Genius
Edited by: Misunderstood Genius on 17/07/2011 20:30:25
Edited by: Misunderstood Genius on 17/07/2011 19:31:26
EVE is like a big student party. The party room is worst than last year, the beer just will cause a headache next morning, the music is not really awesome and you have always these electrical engineering nerds wasting their whole evening with disputing about their hardware skills and they complain about that the party is boring, the music sucks, the beer sucks, the girls suck - because the girls ignore them - while other guys just enjoy the party, they get drunk, the music is going to be better the more you get drunk and finally some of them have great sex with these graphic design sl*ts... but a bad hang-over next day. I agree. But they found a way to have fun.
No wonder you are Misunderstood. You live under a Fallacy of your own device. If you check your word placement and correlational syntax you are a victim of Logical Fallacy. So if You propose nerds are nerdy and you are cool, therefore nerds will never have fun as you have fun, meaning eve is still good? And you hold the key to truth, thus everything is all right in la la land and the nerdy whiners should go to PO to avoid messing your game? tsk, tsk.
Problem lies in your reasoning as you assume an analogy can encompass universal reality when in reality <har har> it only encompass your own deluded notion of self.
There are so many layers in the argument exposed by one side of the members of the community that a generalization analogy is not only incomplete, it's basically a classical metaphorical lie. You have failed to take in consideration that in what you perceive to be a Big Student Party several people only see a Gaming Chess Club, others a Sewer to hide on, others don't see anything else but themselves and even others pretend to be pretenders pretending to be there, and I can keep extrapolating ad nauseam as there are people in the servers.
Your Room is empty except for yourself sir, and the party is just in your head.
Please, lets retake the absurdity and sardonic mass appeal for free advertising without fee's to be paid CCP is trying to impose on "well meant" community members.
Cleverly disguised as a token of goodwill to show they care. it's interesting to me still, seeing how CCP is behaving their PR department or anything community related is apparently an isolated fortress of mindsets to a casual observer.
---Eve is not dying, its being murdered ----
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catinboots
Minmatar
Vintage heavy industries
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Posted - 2011.07.18 05:05:00 -
[105]
I would love to participate but i got one question
What do people use to make ingame video s and how difficult/ easy is it
And my message to all whinners and doomsayers F.O. If you don't like it begone and don't let the door it you on the way out
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Minmatar are like jedi knights, we use ductape as our force, it has a darkside and a sticky side
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Drop Dead Sexy
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Posted - 2011.07.18 07:24:00 -
[106]
I can share my content of some game experience:
im walking in my cabin: completely useless! and im mad because this addition brought me LAG, in a fleet 10vs10 modules are not working, approach and keep distance commands DO NOT work, getting info about im being jammed after killin some guristas randomly all the time (session change helps here)
game is unstable, server can crash anytime!!
getting data from server is like pain in the ass: opening skillz, corp hangar, ship bay takes way more time then it used to be...
the fps side of the game is ok until u need data from server... i'm getting frustrated here ccp... but i'am patient like most of us are, because there is no other game like this in the market.
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Damion Rayne
Gallente
Dark-Rising
Executive Outcomes
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Posted - 2011.07.18 11:32:00 -
[107]
Those of you *****ing do understand that CCP has a "DEDICATED" marketing team? Kinda like oh I don't know, EVERY COMPANY EVER. Jesus man, would you go back to your local MacDonalds if they gave you ****e food? No I don't think you would, then stop paying for something you hate and stop *****ing about something you hate and have no control over. They are going to advertise while working on the game, they are a business...understand and accept this.
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Smagd
Encina Technologies
Namtz' aar K'in
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Posted - 2011.07.18 11:42:00 -
[108]
Edited by: Smagd on 18/07/2011 11:43:02
Our POS tower killed a sieging Fleet Tempest because the Database was in the process of going down and their rep chain broke.
OFFLINE VICTORY!
Sorry I couldn't get a screenshot.
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Tinak Genry
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Posted - 2011.07.18 11:48:00 -
[109]
Devs, if you can please respond.
Will original fiction, ie in character pieces of writing used to describe in universe ideas or topics, be able to be submitted?
I'm not talking about alliance fiction or corporation based fiction, rather some of the background and ideas that are a part of EVE already.
Thanks ahead of time
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Cashcow Golden Goose
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Posted - 2011.07.18 14:05:00 -
[110]
I was sitting on my sofa in the captains quarters, tried to clone, got told I couldn't until I had left my ship. So I got into my pod, without moving of course, and suddenly I could clone jump.
Then I bought a fully fitted and crewed battleship for the same price as a pair of boots.
It's true, I'm telling you, I was there.
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Reilly Duvolle
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Posted - 2011.07.18 21:25:00 -
[111]
This is a really brilliant idea, and if you had any sense of timing whatsoever, it could have been pretty good. The timing of this campaign is however so bad, that I must conclude that you are not in touch with your community in any way, shape or form. You couldn't have ****ed this up any worse if you had done it on purpose.
:facepalm:
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Maverick2011
Caldari
Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2011.07.18 22:22:00 -
[112]
The Doooooooooooooorrrrrr
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Aramis Rosicrux
Gallente
Ordo Rosa Crux Templaris
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Posted - 2011.07.19 02:45:00 -
[113]
I like this contest and I would like it better if the recording tools were incorporated into the game efficiently. It seems to me that you could record vectors instead of frames and re-visualise at high resolution to produce finished movies.
When players do real PvP we turn off all the effects that magnify lag so the resulting recordings are using low res texture maps and lowest filterings.
Recording the vectors would allow the events to be dynamically re-created down to every bullet and missle hit.
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Electra GaafCramo
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Posted - 2011.07.19 03:10:00 -
[114]
Originally by: Misunderstood Genius
So my recommendation is: play another game like awesome Perpetuum or do your own lag-free unbroken space-game if it's that simple to do. I am tired of all these smart-a**es without a RL.
Let me tell you about "awesome" Perpetuum, quoting myself from elsewhere on these forums. The nonstop praising of Perpetuum needs to be countered with a few facts.
"PO has devs and GMs holding hands. GM's are leading the major corps, and have been since day one. These GM's are officially enemies, but behind the lines, they are quite friendly to each others.
Politics in PO is nothing short of a big conspiracy, made for you to think it's real, though it's just these GM's making a fool out of everyone else.
I have never seen an inbred game like this, it's a hurdle the devs don't have the balls to remove. The game was bascically born with spies all across the place, and this has never been fixed.
Those who are playing PO and can't see this, needs to wake up."
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Mitchello
B O R G
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Posted - 2011.07.19 10:22:00 -
[115]
This was awesome, even if a bit sad.
Come to EVE in China, EXPERT HOUSING, New Eden's Blue Lagoon.
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Thegasp Cupcakes
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Posted - 2011.07.20 05:16:00 -
[116]
I see a lot of hate about how you should be working on Incarna, but...thats most likely different people working on the game and the new site. Completely different code and i am sure you are working on the game. Every MMO has massive glitches, just the way it is.
As for the site, can't wait, love this idea, great historical archive, most games just drop players into the story line some place, at least this way players can see what brought the game to what it is.
Thank you CCP
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Leona Elum
Save Jita
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Posted - 2011.07.20 07:48:00 -
[117]
Hm.. Anyone else noticed that the site is up already? 
http://www.eveisreal.net/
Pretty cool too, I'll be spending a few hours there for sure.
Internet Speed Test - How fast are you?
IGB: www.savejita.evezone.org |
Smagd
Encina Technologies
Namtz' aar K'in
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Posted - 2011.07.20 08:24:00 -
[118]
I dunno whether it works in the "Let's explain it in 30 seconds" format, but INNOMINATE NIGHTMARE and his 0.0 Experience is still an amazing read.
He managed to get 0.0 alliances competing for his visit so he could display their capital fleets to him
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Toovhon
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Posted - 2011.07.20 11:17:00 -
[119]
Originally by: Leona Elum
Hm.. Anyone else noticed that the site is up already?
http://www.eveisreal.net/
Pretty cool too, I'll be spending a few hours there for sure.
Pity it's all propaganda sumbmitted by CCP arsekissers that shows none of the awfulness of Incarna. Talk about bad timing for a promotion :-D
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T'amber Anomandari Demaleon
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Posted - 2011.07.20 19:38:00 -
[120]
Question for Fallout...
Out of the 300+ images I submitted only about 1% have shown up, does that mean that I fail, my uploading fails, or beta code fails?
Chur.
Microtransactions?
Click here and vote Yes, No or Cosmetic only
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Mitchello
B O R G
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Posted - 2011.07.20 20:13:00 -
[121]
Another question for Fallout.
Maybe I have missed it, but is there a non flash version of the site? I'm not so much referring to an easier and more accessible way to go over images and videos, but it's just a little wierd. With an initiative like this you would expect a more open medium. It's the kind of thing you want people to share, and these days the majority of sharing goes through devices and mobility markets. Flash is well, shall we say a rather well established bottleneck in that regard =/
Come to EVE in China, EXPERT HOUSING, New Eden's Blue Lagoon.
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J Kunjeh
Gallente
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Posted - 2011.07.21 02:09:00 -
[122]
The site is live and I'm really digging. What a great way to spread the stories of New Eden. Looking forward to more being posted over the next few months.
One technical note: the player box that pops up on the video's with the text description doesn't always minimize when you move your mouse off the box. I would say about half the time it sticks the entire time making it difficult to view the video. Using Chrome.
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E man Industries
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Posted - 2011.07.21 02:51:00 -
[123]
Edited by: E man Industries on 21/07/2011 03:45:39
Okay really?
Make it so the information does not pop up over the image...see a youtube video and if i want to see it bigger I can't because your POS interface is in the damn way.
You even managed to make looking at pictures hard....how did you do that?
At what point was lets cover the picture when the person mouse over it...that'll be good...actually thought about.
Site is more frustrating and less useful the using a google image search for eve or searching youtube.
Terrible!
Edit: It just when view via the main interface..if i go to the video pages I can actually look at stuff.
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Hello WoW players. Look at your toon, now back to me. Sadly it isn't me, but if it wasn't simplistic pre scripted linear mono dimensional game you could look like me. I'm in a Paladin |
Jim Luc
Caldari
Rule of Five
Split Infinity.
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Posted - 2011.07.21 04:05:00 -
[124]
It's cool. My only issue is with the content - I wish I could make the videos larger, or go directly to the youtube link or the full-sized image, or make the videos full-screen.
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Obsidian Hawk
RONA Corporation
RONA Directorate
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Posted - 2011.07.21 04:12:00 -
[125]
UGG i have a lot of cinematic screenshots i have to sort through. I'll post something there.
oh yeah CCP Advertising Team =/= Dev team =/= dust programmers =/= world of darkness teams.
So quit your whining and let the ad team do it's job.
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Relaxedtrader
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Posted - 2011.07.21 04:41:00 -
[126]
So I went to the eveisreal website today.
Thoughts:
The website is totally unusable. Don't know why the hell anyone ever thought that that website would be accessible, it takes so long to load a page you need to be doing something else as well. The point I am trying to make is when I think of the websites I visit looking for information and amusement, I like clean, precise and amusing.
The flash interface takes so long between loads that I get bored before I've looked at 2 or 3. There's no excuse for such a pathetic user experience in this age of instants. Think more like failblog.org, the ability to dwell on a piece of content for as long or as short as you like and not a 15 second wait between each piece of material.
I hate to see such an idea with good potential for helping people who might enjoy eve find it, have such a pathetic implementation.
Advice: Rework the entire website so that content is organized but accessible. Think in terms of the way google dominates the search engine market by being innovative and intuitive. Just make it clean and convenient, and the content will speak for itself.
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Shieko Chan
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Posted - 2011.07.21 08:56:00 -
[127]
Originally by: Toovhon
Originally by: Leona Elum
Hm.. Anyone else noticed that the site is up already?
http://www.eveisreal.net/
Pretty cool too, I'll be spending a few hours there for sure.
Pity it's all propaganda sumbmitted by CCP arsekissers that shows none of the awfulness of Incarna. Talk about bad timing for a promotion :-D
/sigh.. yeah, cuz what I really want to watch are a bunch of "why ccp blows" videos instead.... (sic)
Choose your battles; you really don't have to be a butthead over ever little thing ccp does. At any rate you'd make more friends with a more positive attitude.
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Toovhon
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Posted - 2011.07.21 11:02:00 -
[128]
Originally by: Shieko Chan
Originally by: Toovhon
Originally by: Leona Elum
Hm.. Anyone else noticed that the site is up already?
http://www.eveisreal.net/
Pretty cool too, I'll be spending a few hours there for sure.
Pity it's all propaganda sumbmitted by CCP arsekissers that shows none of the awfulness of Incarna. Talk about bad timing for a promotion :-D
/sigh.. yeah, cuz what I really want to watch are a bunch of "why ccp blows" videos instead.... (sic)
Choose your battles; you really don't have to be a butthead over ever little thing ccp does. At any rate you'd make more friends with a more positive attitude.
Actually the protests and hilarious Door posts, CQ screwing up posts, etc have been the most fun I've had in Incarna. I've also heard many others remark on the same thing in-game.
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Ranka Mei
Caldari
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Posted - 2011.07.21 11:31:00 -
[129]
Stop whining, you putzes! And start sharing your 'EVE is Real' content already!
I came here, expecting cool vids and stuff; instead, I find more whine!
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J Kunjeh
Gallente
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Posted - 2011.07.21 15:01:00 -
[130]
Originally by: Relaxedtrader
So I went to the eveisreal website today.
Thoughts:
The website is totally unusable. Don't know why the hell anyone ever thought that that website would be accessible, it takes so long to load a page you need to be doing something else as well. The point I am trying to make is when I think of the websites I visit looking for information and amusement, I like clean, precise and amusing.
The flash interface takes so long between loads that I get bored before I've looked at 2 or 3. There's no excuse for such a pathetic user experience in this age of instants. Think more like failblog.org, the ability to dwell on a piece of content for as long or as short as you like and not a 15 second wait between each piece of material.
You might want to check that you're using a modern browser like Chrome and that it's up to date? Or maybe get better internet service? It loads almost instantly for me and is no problem at all to navigate (though it's not perfect, it could use some tweaks).
~Gnosis~ |
jason hill
Caldari
Clan Shadow Wolf
Fatal Ascension
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Posted - 2011.07.21 19:17:00 -
[131]
Originally by: Smagd
I dunno whether it works in the "Let's explain it in 30 seconds" format, but INNOMINATE NIGHTMARE and his 0.0 Experience is still an amazing read.
He managed to get 0.0 alliances competing for his visit so he could display their capital fleets to him
crikey this one brings back some memories ! that was a bloody fun read back in the day
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Zela Kahn
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Posted - 2011.07.22 14:22:00 -
[132]
Have to thank you all at CCP and the ppl who came up with such a concept. I think it just made my eve experience all the more real.
:)
I can now say say "I was there."
thank you for posting some of the photos I edited myself for my corp and for the EVE universe
I took all the screenshots used myself and as I mentioned I edited them as well just for fun.
I hope you guys keep doing things such as the EvE is real website.
hopefully you will see some of my work and like it
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Monotribe
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Posted - 2011.07.27 08:56:00 -
[133]
allow adobe flash IGB now
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Materia Hunter
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Posted - 2011.08.22 22:22:00 -
[134]
I am guessing uploads have finished now? I've been away for a bit.
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Eojek
Amarr
Starlight Molly
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Posted - 2011.08.25 02:09:00 -
[135]
Edited by: Eojek on 25/08/2011 02:10:29
Edited by: Eojek on 25/08/2011 02:10:03
Aw man! Here I was going to upload this thing.
Facebook!
http://www.facebook.com/bookmarks/groups#!/falchiongpx
Still can't figure out how to post something from facebook here.
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Hakaru Ishiwara
Minmatar
Republic Military School
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Posted - 2011.08.25 04:44:00 -
[136]
Originally by: CCP Fallout
Earlier today, milestone two in the EVE is Real museum was reached. Sadly, we discovered that there was a lot of click fraud and gaming of the sharing feature. As a result, weÆve reset the second level milestone to a level that indicates sharing that was done by actual humans. This translates to about 4,000 or so actual shares, which is too few in number to have unlocked level two.
Oh, the irony. A CCP-sponsored initiative involving actively fraudulent behavior by participants.
You get what you preach, despite EVE being 'just a game.' Heavily encourage dishonesty and thievery in the moral vacuum of EVE and it is unrealistic to expect that people will take the moral high-ground with your OOG initiatives.
Plus AUR is a currency. Greed rules all else, especially when it comes to EVE players. 
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