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Malcanis
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Posted - 2012.09.19 11:55:00 -
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Peter Raptor wrote:Almost finnished training the Tengu, and suddenly I see CCP Fozzie announcing Heavy Missiles will be nerfed  https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=155029&find=unreadWill people switch to Heavy Assault Missiles for the Tengu and Drake (the Assaults will not be rebalanced in the winter Expansion), or is it something thats just not done? I'm fairly new to these ships, that's all.
If the TE/TC changes go through as advertised, then the Cruise CNR will become the go-to missile PvE ship again. TEs are easy to fit and they'll fit just fine in that 5th low slot. And the CNR can easily mount a Tracking Comp as well. Put a tracking script in there and T2 Cruise missiles become extremely effective.
I've already sold my mission Tengus (thanks for the ISK, chumps!) and I'll be skilling up my Tengu alt for Caldari BS 5 and T2 Cruise. He already has all the other skills he needs from flying the Tengu.
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Posted - 2012.09.21 17:21:00 -
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Liang Nuren wrote:Tassian Marrix wrote:So it seems i shouldn't have trained in missiles as my main weapon system. Wonder if I can get the skills refunded. I think it's funny how the missile camp is basically divided between people who can only see the HML nerf and the rest of us who are lusting over a potential 30% explo rad TC. I don't think you properly understand how much better missiles are going to be. We have been arguing for this for literally years, and sacrificing OP HML is just not a big deal. Missile are going to **** face until they nerf the **** out of them. They are going to be that overpowered. You just don't even know. MUAHAHAHAHAHA. -Liang
Dude.
Shut up!
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Posted - 2012.09.23 19:40:00 -
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Hagika wrote:Liang Nuren wrote:Tassian Marrix wrote:So it seems i shouldn't have trained in missiles as my main weapon system. Wonder if I can get the skills refunded. I think it's funny how the missile camp is basically divided between people who can only see the HML nerf and the rest of us who are lusting over a potential 30% explo rad TC. I don't think you properly understand how much better missiles are going to be. We have been arguing for this for literally years, and sacrificing OP HML is just not a big deal. Missile are going to **** face until they nerf the **** out of them. They are going to be that overpowered. You just don't even know. MUAHAHAHAHAHA. -Liang Ever fly a Cerb? Heavy missile dps is laughable and now 20% less....yeah.......
HMLs aren't the only missiles. If these changes go through then we are going to see some very interesting new doctrines.
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Posted - 2012.09.26 10:35:00 -
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Noemi Nagano wrote:
HMLs are the only missiles which are of use in Caldari combat ships above frig size right now, except Torps in a SB. Thats why nerfing them before buffing other stuff sucks. And they are only really competitive in just 2 ships!
But missiles are getting buffed at the same time. The ship penalties are being removed (Sig for Fury, Speed for Precision). All missiles will get a very considerable buff from the TE/TC change. ACs are only good because of tracking enhancers. When HAMs and Torps get velocity and explosion velocity bonuses from TEs & TCs, they'll be hugely improved.
Oh and Cruise might well become viable again. Dual-TC Ravens could be very interesting indeed. Lots of alpha (well, volley) and 63% better explosion velocity along with the removal of the ship penalties for T2 missiles... yeah that will change a lot of calculations.
You're making the classic EVE forum mistake of only looking at one aspect of a proposed change and ignoring all the others. Personally, I agree that a -20% DPS nerf for HMLs is too much. What I am saying is that missile weapons as a whole will be significantly improved. I hope that CCP dial back that -20% to no more than 10% or 12.5%, but even if they don't, then recovering HAMs, Torps and Cruise as viable PvP (and greatly improved PvE) weapons will be worth it.
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