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Wedding Peach	Posted - 2011.07.18 23:32:00 - [31] Originally by: DemetRYS Edited by: DemetRYS on 18/07/2011 23:17:06 Originally by: Wedding Peach Imagine the logistical ability for nullsec wormholes to have a jump drive capable industrial You mean a Rorqual? Edit: I like your modular ship idea though, even if some of the subsystems are redundant or far-fetched. I think it would be neat to have one convertable ship that could ice mine for me, then refit to move that ice covertly. Saving me the need to plant exhumers and transports in several locations or dedicate two characters to the job of fueling my w-space POS. Ofc, I could just stop being anal and buy my ice, but where's the fun in that? The problem I see with the Rorq is that its an expensive capital ship that's one of the two types of ships that could serve that purpose. The other being Black Ops which are specialized for combat roles. Rorqs also lack the ability to enter highsec which does hurt the logistical idea behind the concept. -------------------------------------------------- I am the Love Angel, Wedding Peach, and I am very displeased by your lack of love!
Headerman Minmatar Quovis Shadow of xXDEATHXx	Posted - 2011.07.19 00:12:00 - [32] Caldari-Minmatar and Amarr - Gallente pirate ships. And a Tech 2 Tier 2 BC, specifically for deep space exploration
Robert Caldera	Posted - 2011.07.19 10:09:00 - [33] Originally by: Tchelor Originally by: Robert Caldera Originally by: Tchelor Sin is inferior to Dom, Navy Dom, or Rattler when not used for black ops purposes Why on earth would one use a Sin for something else than BO purposes?? Its not a general purpose ship, it has a very narrow role, it fits fine into. Well, you wouldn't... which is kinda what I said... yeah, a knife is only good for stabbing people and cutting things... whats your point? Are knives underpowered?
mxzf Minmatar Shovel Bros	Posted - 2011.07.19 12:19:00 - [34] Originally by: Wedding Peach T3 Ore Industrial Industry Subsystem Ore Extraction Processor (Bonus to Strip Miners) Ice-Harvesting Interface (Bonus to Ice Miners) Cloud Vacuum Armament (Bonus to Gas Miners) Deep Space Exploration Toolbench (Bonus to Salvagers and Tractor Beams) Electronics Subsystem Extreme CPU Processor (Bonus to CPU) Locus Analyzer Launcher (Bonus to probes) Covert Ops Configuration (Allows Covert Ops Cloak) Mining Master Subcommand (Bonus to Industrial Command Mods) Propulsion Subsystems Microengine System (Bonus to cargo room) Stable Drive Setting (Bonus to warp core strength) Lighten Load Room (Bonus to agility and velocity) Microjump Drive (Jump drive capable) Storage Subsystems Bulk Hauling Room (Bonus to Cargo room) Deep Space Defense (Bonus to Defenses) Drone Bay Setup (Bonus to Drone damage, HP and mining) Maintenance Bay (Allows 20,000 of ship storage) A potential idea, perhaps? Imagine the logistical ability for nullsec wormholes to have a jump drive capable industrial This would be so insanely epic.
Gypsio III Dirty Filthy Perverts	Posted - 2011.07.19 12:23:00 - [35] Originally by: Jude Lloyd I think creating a whole new role would be great and using T2 Drake/Cane/Myrm/Harb slot for it would be even better. Simply, a ship that has a decent tank, average DPS, but once every few minutes or so can send out a pulse of some kind that would decloak cloakys. Maybe the pulse takes out the entire capacitor, or just has a long recharge. The pulser mod could have a 30km range or something wonderful like that. Maybe it would chance based like jams are, to keep things mixed up. I don't think we need to boost gatecamping further.
Jacob Stov	Posted - 2011.07.19 13:29:00 - [36] First and foremost I want a mobile home. Ship hangar around 1 mil m¦, cargobay of around 100k m¦. Around 300k EHP. Able to use gates, no highslots, only med and lowslots. Alternitavely, just let carriers use gates, disable all active modules and lock the dronebay in highsec. Mordus ships. Fast blasterships based on Caldari hulls. Minimal dronebay, but marauder layout + missile launchers, lowered mass compared to basic hull and higher base speed.
mxzf Minmatar Shovel Bros	Posted - 2011.07.19 13:58:00 - [37] Originally by: Jacob Stov First and foremost I want a mobile home. Ship hangar around 1 mil m¦, cargobay of around 100k m¦. Around 300k EHP. Able to use gates, no highslots, only med and lowslots. Alternitavely, just let carriers use gates, disable all active modules and lock the dronebay in highsec. Mordus ships. Fast blasterships based on Caldari hulls. Minimal dronebay, but marauder layout + missile launchers, lowered mass compared to basic hull and higher base speed. It's called an Orca. I would really love a mini-Orca though, without the mining bonuses, but with a 20-50k cargohold and enough space for something like a BC, 2 cruisers, and a couple frigs, but costing closer to 50-100M, not 400M. It'd also like it to take less time to get an alt into, but that's less of an issue.
Jacob Stov	Posted - 2011.07.19 17:30:00 - [38] Originally by: mxzf It's called an Orca. I would really love a mini-Orca though, without the mining bonuses, but with a 20-50k cargohold and enough space for something like a BC, 2 cruisers, and a couple frigs, but costing closer to 50-100M, not 400M. It'd also like it to take less time to get an alt into, but that's less of an issue. No it is not. I want to transport rigged combat ships up to battleship size. Orca doesn't fit the bill.
DemetRYS Deep Core Mining Inc.	Posted - 2011.07.19 17:58:00 - [39] Originally by: Jacob Stov I want to transport rigged combat ships up to battleship size. Carrier.
Jude Lloyd Heretic Army B A N E	Posted - 2011.07.19 19:50:00 - [40] This thread was going great... Then ppl started talking about new haulers and mining ships. There are enough of those... Let's here some more PVP ships and roles!

DemetRYS Deep Core Mining Inc.	Posted - 2011.07.19 19:54:00 - [41] Originally by: Jude Lloyd Let's here some more PVP ships and roles! T2 battleship with smart-bomb bonus. Your move.
Hypnagogia Ichinumi	Posted - 2011.07.19 20:07:00 - [42] Originally by: DemetRYS Originally by: Jude Lloyd Let's here some more PVP ships and roles! T2 battleship with smart-bomb bonus. Your move. T3 frigate with smartbomb bonus. Because lol.
Urdu ja	Posted - 2011.07.19 20:17:00 - [43] Tech 1 and Tech 2 Khanid Battleship...Common CCP give the RPers a Khanid Battleship
Digital Messiah Gallente Oregami Ultd	Posted - 2011.07.19 20:41:00 - [44] Originally by: mxzf Originally by: Wedding Peach T3 Ore Industrial Industry Subsystem Ore Extraction Processor (Bonus to Strip Miners) Ice-Harvesting Interface (Bonus to Ice Miners) Cloud Vacuum Armament (Bonus to Gas Miners) Deep Space Exploration Toolbench (Bonus to Salvagers and Tractor Beams) Electronics Subsystem Extreme CPU Processor (Bonus to CPU) Locus Analyzer Launcher (Bonus to probes) Covert Ops Configuration (Allows Covert Ops Cloak) Mining Master Subcommand (Bonus to Industrial Command Mods) Propulsion Subsystems Microengine System (Bonus to cargo room) Stable Drive Setting (Bonus to warp core strength) Lighten Load Room (Bonus to agility and velocity) Microjump Drive (Jump drive capable) Storage Subsystems Bulk Hauling Room (Bonus to Cargo room) Deep Space Defense (Bonus to Defenses) Drone Bay Setup (Bonus to Drone damage, HP and mining) Maintenance Bay (Allows 20,000 of ship storage) A potential idea, perhaps? Imagine the logistical ability for nullsec wormholes to have a jump drive capable industrial This would be so insanely epic. Quote: "Frankly, my dear, I don't give a damn"
Wedding Peach	Posted - 2011.07.19 21:06:00 - [45] Originally by: Jude Lloyd This thread was going great... Then ppl started talking about new haulers and mining ships. There are enough of those... Let's here some more PVP ships and roles! EVE is clearly all about the PVP ships and not the logistical ability to make them and bring them to people. -------------------------------------------------- I am the Love Angel, Wedding Peach, and I am very displeased by your lack of love!
Kirarch	Posted - 2011.07.19 21:53:00 - [46] More faction ships. I have this lovely idea of a black and white expansion with a new white, Sisters of Eve exploration ship, and a lovely black Khanid battleship. New T2 Battleship class, using the Tier 3 hulls. Anti-cruiser/blob role. Built to fit cuiser sized weaponry, but with significant rate of fire bonus.
Wedding Peach	Posted - 2011.07.19 22:17:00 - [47] Originally by: Kirarch More faction ships. I have this lovely idea of a black and white expansion with a new white, Sisters of Eve exploration ship, and a lovely black Khanid battleship. New T2 Battleship class, using the Tier 3 hulls. Anti-cruiser/blob role. Built to fit cuiser sized weaponry, but with significant rate of fire bonus. You know you want to see a Black Khanid Abaddon with Battleship Skill: 5% rate of fire for Torpedo Launchers and 5% Armor Resistance per level Assault Battleship Skill: 5% recharge rate of capacitor and 5% increase of torpedo damage -------------------------------------------------- I am the Love Angel, Wedding Peach, and I am very displeased by your lack of love!
Couriercontractalt	Posted - 2011.07.19 22:21:00 - [48] Edited by: Couriercontractalt on 19/07/2011 22:26:08 New roles: Dedicated exploration ship. New ships: Anything battleship related. Battleship 5 was my best skill ever trained. Maybe another t3 class of ships preferably BS. Edit: after posting this I read some more and decided that im okay with anything but t3 frigates. I wouldn't mind seeing t3 transport ships/mining but i have no idea what you'd do with them.
Twitchfish	Posted - 2011.07.19 22:58:00 - [49] I like the idea's posted on anti drone ships and also mobile repair/refit ships. One expansion right there. Balancing each other out and adding a lot more dynamic.
Julia Venatrix	Posted - 2011.07.20 09:29:00 - [50] Orca without the mining bonuses and skill requirements. With no added bonuses, I'd still like it as a transport. Enemies of Man ships - yes, they are redundant given to Caldari missile/hybrid & shield ships, but that's not the point. They look cool. Need there be any other reason to fly them? A T2 industrial variant optimized for hisec AFK autopilot. Obviously suicide ganking will remain a threat - that's a good thing - but we want to take the not-fun out of doing transportation. Smartie destroyer idea is cool. Amarr BS hull with TD & drone bonuses, the Arbi's big brother. Khanid torp & armor resist BS. Caldari & Minnie BS hulls with cruiser-sized weapons bonuses. Gallente exploration-bonused BS. Probably with a decent-sized but unbonused drone bay. --- Some days you are the pigeon, and some the statue.

James Lyrus Lyrus Associates The Star Fraction	Posted - 2011.07.20 11:41:00 - [51] Destroyers. A tier 2. Or a rework of the tier 1. Or both. I'd like to see the existing ones having their signature radius tweaked downwards a fair bit - to near frigate size (given they're already slower). I'd also like to see: specifically gallente drone oriented destroyer. Caldari missile/rocket oriented destroyer. Not sure what the minmatar/amarr counterparts might be though, aside from a clearer divide between long and short range guns.
James Lyrus Lyrus Associates The Star Fraction	Posted - 2011.07.20 11:57:00 - [52] Originally by: mxzf Originally by: Jacob Stov First and foremost I want a mobile home. Ship hangar around 1 mil m¦, cargobay of around 100k m¦. Around 300k EHP. Able to use gates, no highslots, only med and lowslots. Alternitavely, just let carriers use gates, disable all active modules and lock the dronebay in highsec. Mordus ships. Fast blasterships based on Caldari hulls. Minimal dronebay, but marauder layout + missile launchers, lowered mass compared to basic hull and higher base speed. It's called an Orca. I would really love a mini-Orca though, without the mining bonuses, but with a 20-50k cargohold and enough space for something like a BC, 2 cruisers, and a couple frigs, but costing closer to 50-100M, not 400M. It'd also like it to take less time to get an alt into, but that's less of an issue. Indeed. Orca doesn't do the trick. Would love to see a freighter conversion though, that did that. I'd take a tech 2 freighter (Kaalakiota colours Charon please!) that had converted it's cargo so it was basically a defenseless carrier. Because whilst carriers are all well and good, something that allows me to 'move house' around highsec would be perfect. I'd even live without the jumpdrive. (Although, being able to jump would also be pretty cool)
Headerman Minmatar Quovis Shadow of xXDEATHXx	Posted - 2011.07.20 13:05:00 - [53] Personally i would like to see a variant of the Tier 1 BSs that could fit an AoE module that lowers everyones sig radius within a certain area (including the self). Only on or off within the field, so another field could not lower it further. Would be handy for L5's, and staging groups for PVP
James Lyrus Lyrus Associates The Star Fraction	Posted - 2011.07.20 15:24:00 - [54] Originally by: Headerman Personally i would like to see a variant of the Tier 1 BSs that could fit an AoE module that lowers everyones sig radius within a certain area (including the self). Only on or off within the field, so another field could not lower it further. Would be handy for L5's, and staging groups for PVP I seem to recall that this - and the other discussions about smartbombs - are probably doomed, just thanks to the mathematically expensive nature of AOE effects. I mean, if you think, then when you fire e.g. a smartbomb, ships on grid need to all be checked if they're 'in range' or not. For PvP ships... I can't actually think of many obvious gaps, aside from 'gimmick' ships, or ones that aren't well filled, because the hulls aren't up to spec. Tech 2 tier 3 battleships maybe? I mean, a Khanid Abaddon would be kind of neat.
CMD Ishikawa	Posted - 2011.07.20 16:30:00 - [55] Originally by: mxzf Originally by: Wedding Peach T3 Ore Industrial Industry Subsystem Ore Extraction Processor (Bonus to Strip Miners) Ice-Harvesting Interface (Bonus to Ice Miners) Cloud Vacuum Armament (Bonus to Gas Miners) Deep Space Exploration Toolbench (Bonus to Salvagers and Tractor Beams) Electronics Subsystem Extreme CPU Processor (Bonus to CPU) Locus Analyzer Launcher (Bonus to probes) Covert Ops Configuration (Allows Covert Ops Cloak) Mining Master Subcommand (Bonus to Industrial Command Mods) Propulsion Subsystems Microengine System (Bonus to cargo room) Stable Drive Setting (Bonus to warp core strength) Lighten Load Room (Bonus to agility and velocity) Microjump Drive (Jump drive capable) Storage Subsystems Bulk Hauling Room (Bonus to Cargo room) Deep Space Defense (Bonus to Defenses) Drone Bay Setup (Bonus to Drone damage, HP and mining) Maintenance Bay (Allows 20,000 of ship storage) A potential idea, perhaps? Imagine the logistical ability for nullsec wormholes to have a jump drive capable industrial This would be so insanely epic. I absolutely agree with you... We need something like this!!!
joshua boston	Posted - 2011.07.20 16:43:00 - [56] If CCP made new ships all of you would have something new to ***** and moan about.
Twitchfish	Posted - 2011.07.20 17:39:00 - [57] Originally by: joshua boston If CCP made new ships all of you would have something new to ***** and moan about.
Bicc Bum Abh Empire Intrepid Crossing	Posted - 2011.07.20 17:50:00 - [58] Before new ships are added, I think there needs to be some more balancing of what we already have. For instance, the incentives for flying Minmatar / Amarr ships in PvP currently outweigh choosing Gallente. - twitter.com/BiccBum -
DemetRYS Deep Core Mining Inc.	Posted - 2011.07.20 17:55:00 - [59] Originally by: joshua boston If CCP made new ships all of you would have something new to ***** and moan about. You sound mad.
Sanwa Dufore	Posted - 2011.07.20 19:14:00 - [60] I would love to see more T3 Ships. Indy and PVP. Just more T3's subsystems are amazing and they give you something new to train for if you want to stay sub cap.



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