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Lord Frost
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Posted - 2005.02.24 19:42:00 -
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Ok... just curious on how rich the people in Eve have become. If you are personally a billionaire... please sign and post here.
You need to have 1,000,000,000 or more isk... this does NOT include assests... isk ONLY. 
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Lallante
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Posted - 2005.02.24 19:43:00 -
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Unless you need large amounts of isk for turnover on a regular basis, you would be an idiot to have 1bn lying around. Buy some BPOs and let the copies earn you money.
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ShinRa
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The Enslaver
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Posted - 2005.02.24 19:57:00 -
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/emote has a couple o' bil lying around.
BPC's don't make enough ISK to warrant the effort, imo.
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Heritor
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Posted - 2005.02.24 20:03:00 -
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 Originally by: Lallante
Unless you need large amounts of isk for turnover on a regular basis, you would be an idiot to have 1bn lying around. Buy some BPOs and let the copies earn you money.
What !!!!!!!!!!!!!
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SLIM
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Posted - 2005.02.24 20:04:00 -
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Edited by: SLIM on 24/02/2005 20:06:16
Originally by: Lallante
Unless you need large amounts of isk for turnover on a regular basis, you would be an idiot to have 1bn lying around. Buy some BPOs and let the copies earn you money.
Or you could be an escrow junky waiting for a good deal to turn up (and they do turn up, fairly frequently in fact). I like how you assume anyone who has different market strategies is an idiot though 
Btw, /emote is not a billionaire, he is very poor. Yes poor, that's it. Don't bother shooting my ship, there's nothing valuable there.
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Dionysus Davinci
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Posted - 2005.02.24 20:07:00 -
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Originally by: Lord Frost
You need to have 1,000,000,000 or more isk... this does NOT include assests... isk ONLY.
I guess this doesn't count space isk then, becuase isk IS an asset.
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nether void
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Posted - 2005.02.24 20:16:00 -
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Originally by: Lallante
Unless you need large amounts of isk for turnover on a regular basis, you would be an idiot to have 1bn lying around. Buy some BPOs and let the copies earn you money.
I think the point of having a LOT of money lying around instead of invested is that at some point you have WAY too much, and there's no reason to have more.
UO gold springs to mind.
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marioman
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Posted - 2005.02.24 20:18:00 -
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i might have had a bil by now if it wont for all these damn goodies that keep springin up making me spend my money, now i'm about to hit 150m AGAIN for the 4th time in 2 weeks lol
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Scorpyn
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Posted - 2005.02.24 20:43:00 -
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Originally by: marioman
i might have had a bil by now if it wont for all these damn goodies that keep springin up making me spend my money, now i'm about to hit 150m AGAIN for the 4th time in 2 weeks lol
so... lemme get this straight... 150M is LITTLE money to you? 
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darth solo
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Posted - 2005.02.24 20:46:00 -
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even i have that sort of isk.... and im a lazy @ss...
as for making it work for u?, who cares bout that.. i have no interest in doing anything with it other than fitting my BS...
d solo.
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Demian Sky
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Posted - 2005.02.24 21:00:00 -
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I have over a billion isk, but I don't keep them on my main. Imagine, buying a 750 mil shuttle or 10,000 rounds of ammo at 50,000 isk each.
And I think Lallante is right. It's not a good idea to just have it laying around--- reinvest it! I have a megathron and Apoc blueprint original and I leave them in the lab at all times making copies.
When I get 100 total, I put them on escrow for 100 mil and let some other person sell them off for profit of their own. That way, I never have to bother with it. 100 mil each month for doing pretty much nothing, not bad.
And then you can always invest in minerals. I have around 2.5 billion in low grade minerals--- if it's one thing I've learned since release, it's that low grades like pyrite and tritanium always have, and always will go up in value. In 4 or so months, sell them off for an extra third of what you payed for them. Free isk.
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marioman
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Posted - 2005.02.24 21:00:00 -
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Originally by: Scorpyn
Originally by: marioman
i might have had a bil by now if it wont for all these damn goodies that keep springin up making me spend my money, now i'm about to hit 150m AGAIN for the 4th time in 2 weeks lol
so... lemme get this straight... 150M is LITTLE money to you?
in terms of good BS modules...no not really tbh lol
i spent 150m on a single BCS lol :\
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Demarcus
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Posted - 2005.02.24 21:01:00 -
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Originally by: Lallante
Unless you need large amounts of isk for turnover on a regular basis, you would be an idiot to have 1bn lying around. Buy some BPOs and let the copies earn you money.
Then you would end up with a lot of ISK again. So that would be pointless.
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Demarcus
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Posted - 2005.02.24 21:06:00 -
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Originally by: Dionysus Davinci
Originally by: Lord Frost
You need to have 1,000,000,000 or more isk... this does NOT include assests... isk ONLY.
I guess this doesn't count space isk then, becuase isk IS an asset.
No ISK is capitol only physical objects are assets. My home, car, and computer are assets. The money used to buy them is capitol. Thats why when you buy stock it is refered to as a capitol investment and not an asset because what you are paying for does not physical exist. People really need to take an economics class or two.
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X'Alor
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Posted - 2005.02.24 21:07:00 -
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so instead of keeping your isk lying around you buy a bunch of low grade mins and hold onto it for four monthes then sell
so your still holding onto yur isk for monthes on end in mineral form.
none the difference IMO.
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Attrezzo Pox
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Posted - 2005.02.24 21:18:00 -
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In eve isk gets you just about whatever you want.... SO,
lets take some advice from the richest man in the world and see what he does with all that "extra money"
Every last billion of Bill Gates' dollars aren't sitting in a personal checking account... they're in the stock market, or in a small business, or in a new product. It's all invested making interest. That way he can have more money.
One thing in money holds ALWAYS holds true. The more you have to invest the more it works for you. Take the guy with the bps as an example. He has an alt waiting for them to turn out 100 bpcs and then he sells them all. He never has to hunt. Never has to mine. Never has to do anything he doesn't wanna do accept wait. It's the golden point in eve everyone should strive to be at.
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Dionysus Davinci
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Posted - 2005.02.24 21:26:00 -
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Edited by: Dionysus Davinci on 24/02/2005 21:36:48
Originally by: Demarcus
Originally by: Dionysus Davinci
Originally by: Lord Frost
You need to have 1,000,000,000 or more isk... this does NOT include assests... isk ONLY.
I guess this doesn't count space isk then, becuase isk IS an asset.
No ISK is capitol only physical objects are assets. My home, car, and computer are assets. The money used to buy them is capitol. Thats why when you buy stock it is refered to as a capitol investment and not an asset because what you are paying for does not physical exist. People really need to take an economics class or two.
No isk is asset, what you are refering to is Fixed Assets. Fixed assets is something that is around more then a year and costs more then a few dollars. Did you know Accounts Receivable is an Asset as well. Really, some people should take an accounting course or two and learn what GAP means.
Oh, and stock is an equity and Capital is total value of all assets after minusing libilities. Other words, Net Worth.
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LoxyRider
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Posted - 2005.02.24 21:27:00 -
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Do i get a membership card?
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Mongo Peck
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Posted - 2005.02.24 21:42:00 -
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Urm starting a little low I think ...... Eve is kinda flooded with isk ...
Maybe start a 10's of Billions Club and I'd be intrested 
Mongo speaks !!
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Ordo Abchao
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Posted - 2005.02.24 21:43:00 -
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Originally by: SLIM
Edited by: SLIM on 24/02/2005 20:06:16
Originally by: Lallante
Unless you need large amounts of isk for turnover on a regular basis, you would be an idiot to have 1bn lying around. Buy some BPOs and let the copies earn you money.
Or you could be an escrow junky waiting for a good deal to turn up (and they do turn up, fairly frequently in fact). I like how you assume anyone who has different market strategies is an idiot though
Btw, /emote is not a billionaire, he is very poor. Yes poor, that's it. Don't bother shooting my ship, there's nothing valuable there.
FYI, what you mentioned is what lallante means(to the best of my knowledge), if you are a reseller, and you are waiting to find that gisti type x xl shield booster for 1-2 billion and sell it for a profit (for example) or if you just but lots of items and resell them. Either case you need large sums of isk to make the initial purchase.
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Black 1
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Posted - 2005.02.24 21:57:00 -
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Originally by: marioman
i might have had a bil by now if it wont for all these damn goodies that keep springin up making me spend my money, now i'm about to hit 150m AGAIN for the 4th time in 2 weeks lol
w00t about to hit the 17mil again for the 6th time this week.... /me is Very poor all the time... please donate to his fund as he has an addiction to Assault frigs and tea!! 
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JarmenKell
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Posted - 2005.02.24 22:06:00 -
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i dont wanna know whos got 1 bill.
whos got more than 10 billions.
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Candella Brown
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Posted - 2005.02.24 22:19:00 -
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I recently got hold of a few bill, bought a ****load of toys for my fighter char and 2 bs bpo¦s, i know there is prolly some better way to make isk for for u then bs bpo¦s... but since i have very littel time to play each day/week this suits me quite well coz they make me isk while i¦m at work or sleeping.  i¦m a solo player btw, and no, i dident buy on e-bay 
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Lorth
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Posted - 2005.02.24 22:48:00 -
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I opperate under the principal that if I have more then 200mill I need to buy something.
Having isk just sitting in your account really doesn't do much for you. Having it makeing more for you does. Find something thats easy to maintian and make some isk and you'll be happy. Doesn't have to be a lot of isk, 'investments' that make a lot of isk typically require a lot of work. Rather buy some BPO's and copy them for instance, or have low end minerals waiting to be sold etc...
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Vannaroth
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Posted - 2005.02.24 22:53:00 -
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In Britain you need 1,000,000,000,000 to be a billionaire 
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Aliksr
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Posted - 2005.02.24 22:56:00 -
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my good buddy diyonisis is right. but it's GAAP, not GAP
cash is just an asset class, defined as having perfect liquidity. the more you need liquidity, the more cash you have to hold.
if you don't know what that means, then just buy a raven bpo and research it for a month and resell. or buy faction loot or low-end mins, which are generally guaranteed to rise at the rate of inflation. with the way inflation is going, holding cash is a recepie for losing money. we're not just talking abotu missed opportunity.
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Plim
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Posted - 2005.02.24 23:15:00 -
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Edited by: Plim on 24/02/2005 23:19:20
Originally by: Vannaroth
In Britain you need 1,000,000,000,000 to be a billionaire
Nah thats a trillion man 
EDIT:
billion n one thousand million formerly, one million million.
Used to be 1,000,000,000,000
OMG I just qouted a dictionary on the forums
/emote dies
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Kydor
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Posted - 2005.02.24 23:22:00 -
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*SIGNED* Join me up
If there are any troubles or questions please let us know. We will do our best to resolve any issues and promise not to place a curse on you or send trolls to eat your children!
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Nafri
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Posted - 2005.02.24 23:29:00 -
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Originally by: Plim
Edited by: Plim on 24/02/2005 23:19:20
Originally by: Vannaroth
In Britain you need 1,000,000,000,000 to be a billionaire
Nah thats a trillion man
EDIT:
billion n one thousand million formerly, one million million.
Used to be 1,000,000,000,000
OMG I just qouted a dictionary on the forums
/emote dies
The history and the billion, and why people from USA and Britain have mostly no clue
In mathematical right order:
million = 1.000.000
milliard = 1.000.000.000
billion = 1.000.000.000.000
trillion = 1.000.000.000.000.000
Why do thy say billion when thy should say milliard?
Cause some moron from overseas got it wrong, and most part of britains followed this example of pure stupidity. Its founded in economic, aka "the short ladder"
Who are the morons?
Only the Brits and the USA. Most civilisations count the billion as 10^12
Can we get rid of it?
yes, tendeces shows that even morons comes to the conlussion, abonding a term is stupid, and makes you look like a moron. so we may see the comback of the rightfull owner of the 10^9, the good old milliard
*please activate your humor for this post*
Wanna fly with me?
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Plim
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Posted - 2005.02.24 23:33:00 -
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w00t im correct by definition so I w1n 
/emote activates his OMG why the hell am I arguing about semantics module tech II
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Nafri
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Posted - 2005.02.24 23:40:00 -
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I did some research on this a long time ago
Wanna fly with me?
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Cartiff
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Posted - 2005.02.25 00:02:00 -
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Edited by: Cartiff on 25/02/2005 00:03:03
I'm pretty sure this is the best place to beg for money
So, can i have some, my wife is driving me mad with factory bills and office rents, she loves the designer clothes and my bank manager is loving this... to be honest i think he might be having a thing with my wife, but shes got so much plastic in her now (from the frequent nips/tucks) that i don't want her anyway.
Theres no love there.
My kids are great, pure diamonds, apart from the huge X-Instinct addictions, when their on a trip their pure angels, but when their gear gets low, its daddy who has to folk out.
My only small saving grace is the simple pleasures i get from the nice tea room lady in the local gallente station.
We enjoy the simple things in life, taking walks around the station, admiring the views, visiting the local exotic retailers and buying somethings for the small flat i have rented on the side for us.
Please, please help me, I can't take it anymore, all i need is a few mil to ease the burdon.
Cartiff, CEO
Euphoria Released
NBSI 4TW
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Dionysus Davinci
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Posted - 2005.02.25 00:17:00 -
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Edited by: Dionysus Davinci on 25/02/2005 00:17:53
Originally by: Aliksr
my good buddy diyonisis is right. but it's GAAP, not GAP
So shot me, I forgot the extra A for accepted :p
Also, I don't keep more then 100 million isk on hand, which is to buy new equipment, clone (worst case), and insurance payment on a new BS. The rest I tie into investments. Of which, I have have invested into a certain Corp ;)
Sure, I only have 100 million on had, but if I sold every single thing I owned. I would be worth 800 million easily.
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StiZum Hilidii
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Posted - 2005.02.25 00:37:00 -
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2 bill in cash again atm
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Omniwar
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Posted - 2005.02.25 00:56:00 -
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Originally by: LoxyRider
Do i get a membership card?
do I 
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Rivek
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Posted - 2005.02.25 00:59:00 -
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naf, afaik no one in america thinks 1,000,000,000 is something other than 1 bil... unless they didnt pass 4th grade.
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Redon
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Posted - 2005.02.25 01:04:00 -
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i want in, 3.4bil again >:)
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Jebidus Skari
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Posted - 2005.02.25 04:47:00 -
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Originally by: darth solo
even i have that sort of isk.... and im a lazy @ss...
as for making it work for u?, who cares bout that.. i have no interest in doing anything with it other than fitting my BS...
d solo.
I was about to type something similar 
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Kaylona Tso
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Posted - 2005.02.25 05:18:00 -
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Edited by: Kaylona Tso on 25/02/2005 05:19:10
Modern Banking was invented by the templars/freemasons who also founded the N.W.O. to control the population. So why not have billions of isk just sitting there waiting for the N.E.O. to take over and make it worthless.
N.E.O. == m0o ( just you wait and see )
tomB and m0o 4tw
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w0rmy
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Posted - 2005.02.25 05:47:00 -
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Originally by: Rivek
naf, afaik no one in america thinks 1,000,000,000 is something other than 1 bil... unless they didnt pass 4th grade.
But then again, theyre the same people who see the metric system as a hindrance
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David Corbett
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Posted - 2005.02.25 06:12:00 -
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Edited by: David Corbett on 25/02/2005 06:12:51
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Mattduk
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Posted - 2005.02.25 08:30:00 -
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Edited by: Mattduk on 25/02/2005 08:34:47
Originally by: Demarcus
Originally by: Dionysus Davinci
Originally by: Lord Frost
You need to have 1,000,000,000 or more isk... this does NOT include assests... isk ONLY.
I guess this doesn't count space isk then, becuase isk IS an asset.
No ISK is capitol only physical objects are assets. My home, car, and computer are assets. The money used to buy them is capitol. Thats why when you buy stock it is refered to as a capitol investment and not an asset because what you are paying for does not physical exist. People really need to take an economics class or two.
errr... What's the first line on a Balance sheet oh professor?
Bingo! CASH!
Cash is indeed an asset, a "current asset" in it's most liquid form.
Admittedly, this level of cash lying around not working for you could be seen as a waste, however withut further information, it is impossible to ascertain whether this asset is kept on hand to meet short term liabilities. We don't know the mechancis of cash flow in this instance.
Economics might not immediately educate you of this fact. I recommend an accounting class first.
Money used to purchase assets is not a capital item. Nope. It is an asset, which is then transformed into another asset during a transaction. Furthermore, stock is not a capital item if you are the investor. It is still an asset, and because it is not a physical object it is simply labelled as an "intangible asset". Stock is only a capital item when the company issues it to investors. It is a matter of perspective. Walmart issues stock as a capital item to fund it's activities, an investor purchases the stock as ain investment.
Walmart sees the stock as a capital item
Investor sees the stock as an intangible asset.
Hope that helps clear up any misinformation.
Regards
Mattduk
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Iratus Caelestis
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Posted - 2005.02.25 09:30:00 -
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tbh for any character over 6 months old a billion isn't particuarly difficult to get. It's just most people tend not to keep the money once they have it.
The sheer number of people in eve with access to that kind of earning potential is part of the problem with inflation imho.
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Sybylle
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Posted - 2005.02.25 09:38:00 -
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Used to have 2 billions 2 months ago...But I spent it, almost ^^
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Posted - 2005.02.25 10:15:00 -
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I always seem to hover around the 150 to 200 mil mark as I keep spending a some here and a bit there. Have to keep myself completely in ammo, modules, ships, etc as I am solo.
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ollobrains
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Posted - 2005.02.25 10:53:00 -
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mind boggles and i thought that 7m was a lot lol - spent in on my cruiser etc now down to 500,000 ISK
So the point is 1B ISK hey - buy some big ships fit em up with guns etc - dont pay any insurance and go shoot as many players up in 0.3-0.0 space as you can before you get destroyed - rats and PVP - go the pirate route - or go hunting pirates - but dont use any corp support - see how long you can last out there alone lol ?
Challange if anyone does do the above keep a storyline - put it up as a post or even submit as a chronicle of the reclusive trigger happy billionare going round shooting as many eve pilots as they can for sport ?
Fox hunting anyone
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Nafri
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Posted - 2005.02.25 13:27:00 -
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Originally by: Rivek
naf, afaik no one in america thinks 1,000,000,000 is something other than 1 bil... unless they didnt pass 4th grade.
but 1.000.000.000 is one milliard and not one billion
thats the point rivek
and when we start, we should type 1,000,000,000 , looks much better in my eyes
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Jazzatola
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Posted - 2005.02.25 13:35:00 -
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I'm sitting on 6.7 billion at the moment after striking it rich in the agent lottery and selling my BP. I'm still not sure what to do with it all. It's a bit embarrassing to be honest but even so....
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hired goon
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Posted - 2005.02.25 14:05:00 -
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Bunch of rich slags. I have 4 million quid in my walled right now. I had 6 but ASS podded me and I needed a new clone.
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Jernau Gurgeh
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Posted - 2005.02.25 14:06:00 -
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Edited by: Jernau Gurgeh on 25/02/2005 14:34:10
Edited by: Jernau Gurgeh on 25/02/2005 14:06:44
The naming scheme for large numbers is an exponential system derived from how many thousands of thousands you have.
1,000,000 = one thousand thousand = one million (mi is derived from the latin or greek or something for one)
1,000,000,000 = one thousand x one thousand squared = billion (bi = 2)
1,000,000,000,000 = one thousand x one thousand cubed = one trillion (tri = 3)
1,000,000,000,000,000 = quadrillion (quad = 4)
1,000,000,000,000,000,000 = quintillion (quin = 5)
You get the idea.
Milliard is an old, imperial number, with about as nmuch relevance to the modern world as a groat.
Under the old system, would a thousand billion have been called a billiard?
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Baconjoe
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Posted - 2005.02.25 14:11:00 -
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anyways im in the club
We are cursed men
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Andrue
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Posted - 2005.02.25 14:25:00 -
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Maybe a better club is The Big Spender's Club.
You can only enter if you're prepared to give the club 100mil or otherwise fritter away that sum of money. I automatically qualify because I recently lent a corp mate 450mil after thinking about it for all of twenty seconds
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[Brackley, UK]
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Bili
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Posted - 2005.02.25 14:44:00 -
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Originally by: Jernau Gurgeh
Edited by: Jernau Gurgeh on 25/02/2005 14:34:10
Edited by: Jernau Gurgeh on 25/02/2005 14:06:44
The naming scheme for large numbers is an exponential system derived from how many thousands of thousands you have.
1,000,000 = one thousand thousand = one million (mi is derived from the latin or greek or something for one)
1,000,000,000 = one thousand x one thousand squared = billion (bi = 2)
1,000,000,000,000 = one thousand x one thousand cubed = one trillion (tri = 3)
1,000,000,000,000,000 = quadrillion (quad = 4)
1,000,000,000,000,000,000 = quintillion (quin = 5)
You get the idea.
Milliard is an old, imperial number, with about as nmuch relevance to the modern world as a groat.
Under the old system, would a thousand billion have been called a billiard?
1.000 = thousand
1.000.000 = million (10^(6*1))
1.000.000.000 = milliard
1.000.000.000.000 = billion (10^(6*2))
1.000.000.000.000.000 = billiard
1.000.000.000.000.000.000 = trillion (10^(6*3))
....
then some silly american who couldn't count past 6 came around and messed up.
add up the fact that it sounds better to be a billionair then a milliardair and suddenly all america thought that silly system was the correct one.
but then again it doesn't realy matter what system they use, as long as they don't try to force their system on the rest of the world.
even worse when they try to explain their messed up system with fraud logic like you are trying to, jernau gurgeh
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Beldaws
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Posted - 2005.02.25 15:06:00 -
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I make about a billion a week (with little or no effort) and I agree with Lallante that having that money just sitting in a wallet is a waste. I know people with several billion in their wallet and they've had that amount for quite a while. It just sits there waiting for them to loose a ship or need equipment.
I invest my money to make me even more money. I've finally gotten to a point in the game where I don't have to mine, hunt, or do anything simply because I need the money.
Originally by: Lallante
Unless you need large amounts of isk for turnover on a regular basis, you would be an idiot to have 1bn lying around. Buy some BPOs and let the copies earn you money.
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Jazzatola
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Posted - 2005.02.25 15:22:00 -
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Originally by: Beldaws
I make about a billion a week (with little or no effort)
Broadly speaking, how do you do this? Trading? BPCs?
My aim is to get to a similar point where the money does the work for me but I'm still in the crazy spending stage right now.
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Jernau Gurgeh
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Posted - 2005.02.25 15:42:00 -
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Edited by: Jernau Gurgeh on 25/02/2005 15:57:22
Edited by: Jernau Gurgeh on 25/02/2005 15:47:57
Edited by: Jernau Gurgeh on 25/02/2005 15:45:26
Originally by: Bili
Originally by: Jernau Gurgeh
Edited by: Jernau Gurgeh on 25/02/2005 14:34:10
Edited by: Jernau Gurgeh on 25/02/2005 14:06:44
The naming scheme for large numbers is an exponential system derived from how many thousands of thousands you have.
1,000,000 = one thousand thousand = one million (mi is derived from the latin or greek or something for one)
1,000,000,000 = one thousand x one thousand squared = billion (bi = 2)
1,000,000,000,000 = one thousand x one thousand cubed = one trillion (tri = 3)
1,000,000,000,000,000 = quadrillion (quad = 4)
1,000,000,000,000,000,000 = quintillion (quin = 5)
You get the idea.
Milliard is an old, imperial number, with about as nmuch relevance to the modern world as a groat.
Under the old system, would a thousand billion have been called a billiard?
1.000 = thousand
1.000.000 = million (10^(6*1))
1.000.000.000 = milliard
1.000.000.000.000 = billion (10^(6*2))
1.000.000.000.000.000 = billiard
1.000.000.000.000.000.000 = trillion (10^(6*3))
....
then some silly american who couldn't count past 6 came around and messed up.
add up the fact that it sounds better to be a billionair then a milliardair and suddenly all america thought that silly system was the correct one.
but then again it doesn't realy matter what system they use, as long as they don't try to force their system on the rest of the world.
even worse when they try to explain their messed up system with fraud logic like you are trying to, jernau gurgeh
There's a good explanation of the modern system here.
And it was the French who invented the modern system, not the Americans.
Also, the modern system is the one currently in international usage by mathematicians, scientists and economists (you will notice that the above link is to a UK academic site).
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Carter Burke
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Posted - 2005.02.25 15:54:00 -
[57]
When I'm too lazy to turn the stuff over in the market, I will occasionally end up with a b in cash.
CB
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DB Preacher
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Posted - 2005.02.25 16:08:00 -
[58]
Edited by: DB Preacher on 25/02/2005 16:08:42
I currently have 7 million in my account (and some small change and maybe 1 or 2 assets).
That's million, not billion.
I think I need to start taking up merc contracts again :s
and you boys wonder why my ships are always fitted with junk ^^
dbp
Current RKK Ranking: (CAL4) Soldier
Drop by and say hi in Reikoku Forums.
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Xtreem
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Posted - 2005.02.25 16:21:00 -
[59]
my wallet fluctuates between 150mil - 4 billion depending on how much ship collecting im doing :)
currently half a bil
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Riddari
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Posted - 2005.02.25 16:24:00 -
[60]
Jeez, I'm hopeless with ISK.
I hover between 30-200 million regularly, my peak was 380m and boy was I fast to trim that down.
Of course my reluctance to sell named loot and my idiotic insurance schemes (4 battleships insured at once.. come on! get a clue! jeez I suck) don't help a lot.
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Mongo Peck
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Posted - 2005.02.25 17:16:00 -
[61]
Can anyone spare some change for a lonely single player corporation taking on the diabolical Force of Evil Tyrants
Mongo speaks !!
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Attrezzo Pox
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Posted - 2005.02.25 17:26:00 -
[62]
Originally by: Cartiff
Edited by: Cartiff on 25/02/2005 00:03:03
I'm pretty sure this is the best place to beg for money
So, can i have some, my wife is driving me mad with factory bills and office rents, she loves the designer clothes and my bank manager is loving this... to be honest i think he might be having a thing with my wife, but shes got so much plastic in her now (from the frequent nips/tucks) that i don't want her anyway.
Theres no love there.
My kids are great, pure diamonds, apart from the huge X-Instinct addictions, when their on a trip their pure angels, but when their gear gets low, its daddy who has to folk out.
My only small saving grace is the simple pleasures i get from the nice tea room lady in the local gallente station.
We enjoy the simple things in life, taking walks around the station, admiring the views, visiting the local exotic retailers and buying somethings for the small flat i have rented on the side for us.
Please, please help me, I can't take it anymore, all i need is a few mil to ease the burdon.
I'll give you 1,000 isk m8. Just do me a favor and use it to convo your dirty wife and tell her it's over and she can have the kids and their addictions, then convo that sweet gal bird and use the other 800 to get a cheap ring for her. |
Attrezzo Pox
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Posted - 2005.02.25 17:57:00 -
[63]
Edited by: Attrezzo Pox on 25/02/2005 18:14:11
Edited by: Attrezzo Pox on 25/02/2005 18:13:14
F#@$ ALL GUYS!!@# !@$ !
IT WAS THE FRENCH
The English names for large numbers are coined from the Latin names for small numbers n by adding the ending -illion suggested by the name "million." Thus billion and trillion are coined from the Latin prefixes bi- (n = 2) and tri- (n = 3), respectively. In the American system for naming large numbers, the name coined from the Latin number n applies to the number 103n+3. In a system traditional in many European countries, the same name applies to the number 106n.
In particular, a billion is 10^9 = 1 000 000 000 in the American system and 10^12 = 1 000 000 000 000 in the European system. For 10^9, Europeans say "thousand million" or "milliard."
Although we describe the two systems today as American or European, both systems are actually of French origin. The French physician and mathematician Nicolas Chuquet (1445-1488) apparently coined the words byllion and tryllion and used them to represent 10^12 and 10^18, respectively, thus establishing what we now think of as the "European" system. However, it was also French mathematicians of the 1600's who used billion and trillion for 10^9 and 10^12, respectively. This usage became common in France and in America, while the original Chuquet nomenclature remained in use in Britain and Germany. The French decided in 1948 to revert to the Chuquet ("European") system, leaving the U.S. as the chief standard bearer for what then became clearly an American system.
In recent years, American usage has eroded the European system, particularly in Britain and to a lesser extent in other countries. This is primarily due to American finance, because Americans insist that $1,000,000,000 be called a billion dollars. In 1974, the government of Prime Minister Harold Wilson announced that henceforth "billion" would mean 10^9 and not 10^12 in official British reports and statistics. The Times of London style guide now defines "billion" as "one thousand million, not a million million."
Those frenchies will PAY!@#!$@ YAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR |
Heritor
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Posted - 2005.02.25 18:04:00 -
[64]
Edited by: Heritor on 25/02/2005 18:05:06
Originally by: Attrezzo Pox
Originally by: Bili
Originally by: Jernau Gurgeh
Edited by: Jernau Gurgeh on 25/02/2005 14:34:10
Edited by: Jernau Gurgeh on 25/02/2005 14:06:44
The naming scheme for large numbers is an exponential system derived from how many thousands of thousands you have.
1,000,000 = one thousand thousand = one million (mi is derived from the latin or greek or something for one)
Now take deep breaths and count to 10 and all will seem better 
1,000,000,000 = one thousand x one thousand squared = billion (bi = 2)
1,000,000,000,000 = one thousand x one thousand cubed = one trillion (tri = 3)
1,000,000,000,000,000 = quadrillion (quad = 4)
1,000,000,000,000,000,000 = quintillion (quin = 5)
You get the idea.
Milliard is an old, imperial number, with about as nmuch relevance to the modern world as a groat.
Under the old system, would a thousand billion have been called a billiard?
1.000 = thousand
1.000.000 = million (10^(6*1))
1.000.000.000 = milliard
1.000.000.000.000 = billion (10^(6*2))
1.000.000.000.000.000 = billiard
1.000.000.000.000.000.000 = trillion (10^(6*3))
....
then some silly american who couldn't count past 6 came around and messed up.
add up the fact that it sounds better to be a billionair then a milliardair and suddenly all america thought that silly system was the correct one.
but then again it doesn't realy matter what system they use, as long as they don't try to force their system on the rest of the world.
even worse when they try to explain their messed up system with fraud logic like you are trying to, jernau gurgeh
Just cause you brits have rights to "founding" american language doens't mean you can also claim the meanings of clear and obvious latin routes. The original post by Jernau Gurgeh is correct and why when us americans and brits started greatly differing in dialects a natural porgression to aliviate confusion called for our favorite lingua franca. These roots are founded in a "dead" language, latin. So no it wasn't some stupid american who changed all of that it was a group of scientists and mathmaticians trying to create standards that would pervase through all dialects of english and even help out foreigners who barely speak any. The newer form of this is the metric system, which was created by brits. Anyhow now we have latin names for animals, plants, measurements, numbers... Why you ask? Because Latin is a common language in western culture and has been since the end of the Roman Empire. Historians like it because of that and the Roman Catholic church still uses it. Scientists wanted to be able to publish findings without having to CONSTANTLY explain measurements or terminology. So the modern forms of scientific classification, the metric system, and numbers are all rooted in latin with the idea that even if a reader is only marginally decent at reading any western language, some, if not all of the roots will come through and the idea can still be understood. Next time you want to blame something on the "imperialistic americans" check your own history. bi referring to two is a latin thing which is what YOUR language evolved from. Just because us americans are bigger and more powerful doens't mean we're the bane of existance and the root of all evil dispite what the BBC may say.
Now take a deep breath and count to 10....better now
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Attrezzo Pox
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Posted - 2005.02.25 18:25:00 -
[65]
yeah sorry about that splurge, just with all this terrorism sludge I'm getting tired of being pointed at as the cause of ultimate evil and trechery. I mean even though this wasn't in a big way, but still when the news reports that those stupid americans did it again over and over and they're OBVIOUSLY biased... It just gets old. This post will get modded, but I remember listening to the BBC one morning when they reported the americans bombed a mosque... A reporter onsight went on about how this was "just like americans" "brute force all the way" "I can't believe they'd attack a religious center" "brutal war tactics" "stupid stradegy" on and on and on anti american this american idiocy that. Then later, I heard the true story from NPR. Some "insurgents" who had automatic weapons took shelter in the mosque and were fireing at our guys. We held them down for awhile and apparently were about to go in and clear it out the old fashioned way when they started firing RPGs at HUM-Vs and blew one up with people in it. That was when they called in a smartbomb. The mosque was damaged but repairable. Anyhow it kinda ****ed me off. This reporter was so caught up in the fact that we blew up an old building, that he forgot to add in that "little" detail about these men trying to preserve themselves. Now regardless of wether the war is right or not or all the diplomatic debate that spawns from that whole arguement. Reporting like that is wrong, and sometimes it seems the whole world has that opinion.... Anyhow this post is now way too long and I'm going to lunch. |
flummox
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Posted - 2005.02.25 19:08:00 -
[66]
in america, well actually in the entire world, those that can or need to count that high, a "billion" is 12 zeros. not 9...
but you already knew that, right?
there is a fine, but dissasterous line between a fart and a shart. i suggest you make sure which side you want to be on... |
Chavok
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Posted - 2005.02.25 19:37:00 -
[67]
Originally by: Lord Frost
Ok... just curious on how rich the people in Eve have become. If you are personally a billionaire... please sign and post here.
You need to have 1,000,000,000 or more isk... this does NOT include assests... isk ONLY.
typical kiddy things to say,
"mine is bigger then yours.."
"i got the newest toy, you don't..."
"boys club, no girls allowed..."
"i b ub3r 3733t, u sux0rs.."
and now
"i got a billion isk, (i b so 3733t), do you?..."
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Attrezzo Pox
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Posted - 2005.02.25 20:26:00 -
[68]
Originally by: flummox
in america, well actually in the entire world, those that can or need to count that high, a "billion" is 12 zeros. not 9...
but you already knew that, right?
Just got out of the time capsule huh? Nope read my post a few posts up then read the one on the page before that (page 3). It's all there bud one billion now is 10^9 or 1,000,000,000. |
Vannaroth
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Posted - 2005.02.25 21:35:00 -
[69]
*sigh*
1,000,000,000 = milliard.
1,000,000,000,000 = billion
Sorry guys, it's a fact.
Numbers don't just expire and change to suit some idiot who can't count right.
I love the way Americans use the English language, warp it in countless ways, then tell the English that they're doing it wrong.
Flame shield engaged.
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Captain Woodward
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Posted - 2005.02.25 22:09:00 -
[70]
Now how did you get that stinking rich in the first place,I mean before your money started making money 
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flummox
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Posted - 2005.02.25 22:20:00 -
[71]
Edited by: flummox on 25/02/2005 22:28:14
Originally by: Vannaroth
*sigh*
1,000,000,000 = milliard.
1,000,000,000,000 = billion
Sorry guys, it's a fact.
Numbers don't just expire and change to suit some idiot who can't count right.
I love the way Americans use the English language, warp it in countless ways, then tell the English that they're doing it wrong.
Flame shield engaged.
all things are relative my friend. in England, you're way is right. in America, 10^9 = billion. so, wherever you are, you'll have to.... big EVE phrase here... adapt.
now, what do we do in international places like this forum? maybe we should just adopt the math...
there is a fine, but dissasterous line between a fart and a shart. i suggest you make sure which side you want to be on... |
Chavok
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Posted - 2005.02.25 22:26:00 -
[72]
(zeros)(U.S. & scientific community)(Other countries)
3 thousand thousand
6 million million
9 billion 1000 million (1 milliard)
12 trillion billion
15 quadrillion 1000 billion
18 quintillion trillion
21 sextillion 1000 trillion
24 septillion quadrillion
27 octillion 1000 quadrillion
30 nonillion quintillion
33 decillion 1000 quintillion
36 undecillion sextillion
39 duodecillion 1000 sextillion
42 tredecillion septillion
45 quattuordecillion 1000 septillion
I see a pattern, where the americans and scientific community use a name, versus just adding 1000 infront of the previous naming designation...as far as who is right, well the majority rules, and the scientific community uses the same convention as the U.S...
Looks like the USA and scientific community is correct
Now go whine to your leaders if your education system is still teaching the incorrect form...
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Kyle Caldrel
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Posted - 2005.02.25 22:37:00 -
[73]
so, one would be a milliardaire?
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w0rmy
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Posted - 2005.02.25 22:41:00 -
[74]
Edited by: w0rmy on 25/02/2005 22:41:38
Originally by: Vannaroth
milliard
Isnt that a type of duck?
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Dust Puppy
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Posted - 2005.02.25 23:33:00 -
[75]
10^3 => kiloISK
10^6 => megaISK
10^9 => gigaISK
10^12 => teraISK
10^15 => petaISK
10^18 => givesomemoneytomeyousmegheadISK
and so on.
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SamtheDog
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Posted - 2005.02.26 00:46:00 -
[76]
Signed 3X over.
PvP'ing is so much less stressful when your wallet is fat..
Sam
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Nafri
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Posted - 2005.02.26 00:56:00 -
[77]
Originally by: Chavok
(zeros)(U.S. & scientific community)(Other countries)
3 thousand thousand
6 million million
9 billion 1000 million (1 milliard)
12 trillion billion
15 quadrillion 1000 billion
18 quintillion trillion
21 sextillion 1000 trillion
24 septillion quadrillion
27 octillion 1000 quadrillion
30 nonillion quintillion
33 decillion 1000 quintillion
36 undecillion sextillion
39 duodecillion 1000 sextillion
42 tredecillion septillion
45 quattuordecillion 1000 septillion
I see a pattern, where the americans and scientific community use a name, versus just adding 1000 infront of the previous naming designation...as far as who is right, well the majority rules, and the scientific community uses the same convention as the U.S...
Looks like the USA and scientific community is correct
Now go whine to your leaders if your education system is still teaching the incorrect form...
nope
5.5 millard people in the world use the milliard and when you would check german links it says the billard for the millions sucks
and sorry, for science u use Giga
i.e. Gigabyte
same as Mega
1 Megapascal is about 1 atmosphere
when your capable of foraign languages:
Quote:
m amerikanischen Englisch hei¯t Milliarde billion. Das im britischen Englisch verwendete milliard wurde von dem amerikanischen billion weitgehend verdrõngt. Dennoch gibt es jetzt auch im englischen Sprachraum wieder Tendenzen, sich dem internationalen Sprachgebrauch anzuschlie¯en und den im 20. Jahrhundert vom Finanzjournalismus favorisierten Gebrauch der sog. "kurzen Leiter" zu verwerfen.
Wanna fly with me?
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Nafri
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Posted - 2005.02.26 00:58:00 -
[78]
Originally by: Dust Puppy
10^3 => kiloISK
10^6 => megaISK
10^9 => gigaISK
10^12 => teraISK
10^15 => petaISK
10^18 => givesomemoneytomeyousmegheadISK
and so on.
yeah, I study biology, I have physic, chemical, pyhisical-chemic Exams, and never ever anyone would say billion to anything, in science u use standard terms like mega, giga and so on
I could ask a friend who study mathematic, and I'm sure to 99,9% he use milliard too
Wanna fly with me?
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Nafri
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Posted - 2005.02.26 01:00:00 -
[79]
Originally by: Attrezzo Pox
Edited by: Attrezzo Pox on 25/02/2005 18:14:11
Edited by: Attrezzo Pox on 25/02/2005 18:13:14
F#@$ ALL GUYS!!@# !@$ !
IT WAS THE FRENCH
The English names for large numbers are coined from the Latin names for small numbers n by adding the ending -illion suggested by the name "million." Thus billion and trillion are coined from the Latin prefixes bi- (n = 2) and tri- (n = 3), respectively. In the American system for naming large numbers, the name coined from the Latin number n applies to the number 103n+3. In a system traditional in many European countries, the same name applies to the number 106n.
In particular, a billion is 10^9 = 1 000 000 000 in the American system and 10^12 = 1 000 000 000 000 in the European system. For 10^9, Europeans say "thousand million" or "milliard."
Although we describe the two systems today as American or European, both systems are actually of French origin. The French physician and mathematician Nicolas Chuquet (1445-1488) apparently coined the words byllion and tryllion and used them to represent 10^12 and 10^18, respectively, thus establishing what we now think of as the "European" system. However, it was also French mathematicians of the 1600's who used billion and trillion for 10^9 and 10^12, respectively. This usage became common in France and in America, while the original Chuquet nomenclature remained in use in Britain and Germany. The French decided in 1948 to revert to the Chuquet ("European") system, leaving the U.S. as the chief standard bearer for what then became clearly an American system.
In recent years, American usage has eroded the European system, particularly in Britain and to a lesser extent in other countries. This is primarily due to American finance, because Americans insist that $1,000,000,000 be called a billion dollars. In 1974, the government of Prime Minister Harold Wilson announced that henceforth "billion" would mean 10^9 and not 10^12 in official British reports and statistics. The Times of London style guide now defines "billion" as "one thousand million, not a million million."
Those frenchies will PAY!@#!$@ YAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
before we say billion to 10^9 we need to abondon our culture
and no, tendency goes back to the good old milliard, cause nobody else use that damm system
Wanna fly with me?
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Lord Frost
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Posted - 2005.02.26 06:15:00 -
[80]
COME ON GUYS!!!! LMAO
A simple yes or no would have sufficed. Talk about hijacking a thread... my gosh!
Congrats to the newly formed "I HAVE NOTHING BETTER TO DO CLUB"... omfg. 
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Beringe
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Posted - 2005.02.26 09:15:00 -
[81]
You might as well start a thread about the metric system v.s. whatever you call the other one (not a flame, I genuinely don't know the name).
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Novarei
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Posted - 2005.02.26 09:16:00 -
[82]
1 billion = 1,000,000,000 duh.... Always has been, though apparently i read it wasnt in some countries :/
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Gaius Kador
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Posted - 2005.02.26 09:36:00 -
[83]
How you have bothered to make a bill beats me.
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Avon
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Posted - 2005.02.26 10:49:00 -
[84]
1 gigaISK
1 gillion isk
SI 4tw.
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Kerosene
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Posted - 2005.02.26 11:46:00 -
[85]
I have well over a billion tied up in minerals. The only thing decreasing in value in this game is isk so I feel it's daft to tie up your assets with cash. Plus with the trend in minerals prices rising, my net worth is increasing all the time without me having to do anything.
Saying that, I still keep a few hundred million readies in case I see something I want
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Captain Woodward
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Posted - 2005.02.26 12:31:00 -
[86]
As i asked while the "nerds" debated about million and trillion and ****,How did you make your money?Before your money started generating more money (BS BPOs)
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TMX
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Posted - 2005.02.26 13:09:00 -
[87]
can i just join the "i have to much time fanclub" ?
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Dark Shikari
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Posted - 2005.02.26 14:34:00 -
[88]
If you count my Raven BPO that I bought last week, I certainly am a billionaire
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The best description of alliances, ever:
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Rizzy
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Posted - 2005.02.26 14:43:00 -
[89]
LOL
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Istvaan Shogaatsu
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Posted - 2005.02.26 15:30:00 -
[90]
Multibillionnaire here - and all of it ill-gotten.
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Dark Shikari
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Posted - 2005.02.26 16:32:00 -
[91]
Originally by: Istvaan Shogaatsu
Multibillionnaire here - and all of it ill-gotten.
Give the man a cookie. Istvaan--king of ill-gotten gains
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The best description of alliances, ever:
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Reptar
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Posted - 2005.02.26 17:44:00 -
[92]
Total Cash1,094,978,053 ISK
Yes im going to spend it all asap, but does it really matter? I play this game to have fun not be better/richer than anybody else. |
Artegg
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Posted - 2005.02.26 18:53:00 -
[93]
Originally by: Reptar
Total Cash1,094,978,053 ISK
Yes im going to spend it all asap, but does it really matter? I play this game to have fun not be better/richer than anybody else.
Damn it you aer richer than me :(
But i am in the club \o/
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Demian Sky
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Posted - 2005.02.26 19:47:00 -
[94]
Originally by: Captain Woodward
As i asked while the "nerds" debated about million and trillion and ****,How did you make your money?Before your money started generating more money (BS BPOs)
EHM, Arkinor...
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Professor Kent
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Posted - 2005.02.26 19:50:00 -
[95]
Originally by: Attrezzo Pox
In eve isk gets you just about whatever you want.... SO,
lets take some advice from the richest man in the world and see what he does with all that "extra money"
Every last billion of Bill Gates' dollars aren't sitting in a personal checking account... they're in the stock market, or in a small business, or in a new product. It's all invested making interest. That way he can have more money.
One thing in money holds ALWAYS holds true. The more you have to invest the more it works for you. Take the guy with the bps as an example. He has an alt waiting for them to turn out 100 bpcs and then he sells them all. He never has to hunt. Never has to mine. Never has to do anything he doesn't wanna do accept wait. It's the golden point in eve everyone should strive to be at.
Is he still the richest one ?
Wasnt it in the news last year or sumthing that the founder of IKEA was now the richest man in the world.
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Captain Woodward
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Posted - 2005.02.27 18:47:00 -
[96]
Originally by: Demian Sky
Originally by: Captain Woodward
As i asked while the "nerds" debated about million and trillion and ****,How did you make your money?Before your money started generating more money (BS BPOs)
EHM, Arkinor...
So everyone of you guys mined your way to billionare status?
Now come on,Ive heard lots of ppl talking about npcing,For like 100mill/hour,But they never want to tell how 
No,You dont have to tell me exact how you made your billions,But just in what way? Mining,NPCing?
I dont know about mining,But NPCing doesnt give too much money unless you find some rare items..Then there is these lvl 4 missions,Yea they seem good with loot and all...
But to the question,How did you get your first billion?
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Edania
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Posted - 2005.02.27 18:57:00 -
[97]
Originally by: Vannaroth
I love the way Americans use the English language, warp it in countless ways, then tell the English that they're doing it wrong.
Flame shield engaged.
sorry to disagree with a fellow Brit but American is closer to traditional English than contemporary English is take for example the word fall, you will find this in a number of historical British documents. it is us who develop the word Autumn out of the blue.
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Captain Woodward
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Posted - 2005.02.27 19:11:00 -
[98]
Originally by: Edania
Originally by: Vannaroth
I love the way Americans use the English language, warp it in countless ways, then tell the English that they're doing it wrong.
Flame shield engaged.
sorry to disagree with a fellow Brit but American is closer to traditional English than contemporary English is take for example the word fall, you will find this in a number of historical British documents. it is us who develop the word Autumn out of the blue.
Plz stop hijacking this thread,If you want to whine about offtopic ****,Make another thread in another forum,That is just as boring and uninteresting as the billion/milliard discussion
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Jazzatola
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Posted - 2005.02.28 00:05:00 -
[99]
Originally by: Captain Woodward
But to the question,How did you get your first billion?
Well as I mentioned before I was lucky in the agent lottery. Before that, I used to sell T2 stuff from bpcs and my wallet was always hovering around the 100mil mark. Never been much of a miner I'm afraid, even back in the early days.
I'm interested to know how people are getting their money working for them. Anyone want to give up a few secrets?
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0subzero0
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Posted - 2005.02.28 02:14:00 -
[100]
Quote:
No isk is asset, what you are refering to is Fixed Assets. Fixed assets is something that is around more then a year and costs more then a few dollars. Did you know Accounts Receivable is an Asset as well. Really, some people should take an accounting course or two and learn what GAP means.
So if I took an accounting course I'd learn what *** and proud means?.... Interesting... would explain a couple ppl working for the government.
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Dark Shikari
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Posted - 2005.02.28 02:18:00 -
[101]
Originally by: Captain Woodward
Originally by: Demian Sky
Originally by: Captain Woodward
As i asked while the "nerds" debated about million and trillion and ****,How did you make your money?Before your money started generating more money (BS BPOs)
EHM, Arkinor...
So everyone of you guys mined your way to billionare status?
Now come on,Ive heard lots of ppl talking about npcing,For like 100mill/hour,But they never want to tell how
No,You dont have to tell me exact how you made your billions,But just in what way? Mining,NPCing?
I dont know about mining,But NPCing doesnt give too much money unless you find some rare items..Then there is these lvl 4 missions,Yea they seem good with loot and all...
But to the question,How did you get your first billion?
NPC trading at 60 million an hour. Until of course the trade route dried up.
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0subzero0
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Posted - 2005.02.28 02:24:00 -
[102]
Ok to all ppl fighting over Billion and milliard.
In french, milliard is still used as the 10^9 mark, and folowing milliard is billion. Are language wasn't affected by silyl americans, so it kinda is proof that yes milliard is correct and billion is a million million thats why its "bi", to make this more obvious for you all, its like bisexual, bi for two, so billion isnt 10^9. French for teh win!
Its milliard, get over it. Just cause your government changed the dictionnary to keep every banker from confusing their clients to death, doesn't make it right.
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Tobiaz
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Posted - 2005.02.28 03:28:00 -
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Edited by: Tobiaz on 28/02/2005 03:28:05
In dutch it's also miljard.
Anyway, one of the richest players would be webmaster who had the whole Techell corpwallet in his pocket. Though he and that large sum got banned for ebaying it.
Once again CCP struck swift and wise.
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Hassis
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Posted - 2005.02.28 10:16:00 -
[104]
same in russia: milliard(10^6), trillion(10^9)
and in channels we used to use 'kk' instead of 'b' or 'm' (1kk=10^6)
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Riddari
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Posted - 2005.02.28 11:18:00 -
[105]
milljarur in icelandic as well
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Captain Woodward
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Posted - 2005.02.28 12:16:00 -
[106]
Edited by: Captain Woodward on 28/02/2005 12:16:47
Originally by: Jazzatola
Anyone want to give up a few secrets?
Pigs will fly when these guys gives out there secrets
Edit: Its miljard (milliard) in sweden aswell.
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flummox
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Posted - 2005.02.28 14:29:00 -
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Originally by: Beringe
You might as well start a thread about the metric system v.s. whatever you call the other one (not a flame, I genuinely don't know the name).
Imperial. and, there already is a long thread on this. many threads, in fact.
all, HIGHLY entertaining...
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Val Duane
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Posted - 2005.02.28 14:51:00 -
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2.7bil for me.
Started out heading for first bil ripping off CA/SE/CFS in Agil, at commonly refered to "Agil Prices" 3 times here than most other places.
Before I got to bil, I pooled money with a close friend and we invested in a Tempest BPO, after a few months we used the profits to buy a Apoc BPO and several other "NEW" BPOS. Selling the "NEW" BPOs quickly doubled our worth.
Eventually sold most of our investments and assets off and split the cash and assets left.
Not sure how Im making money at the moment really, but constantly hovering about 2.7bil in cash dispite losing zealots as fast as I can buy them.
btw: evamil me my membership card please.
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Captain Woodward
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Posted - 2005.02.28 16:30:00 -
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Hehe,So thats why everything in agil was so expensive
Now thats a smart tecnique to pool money from the billionares (or should i say milliardares? ) who doesnt care about the prices..Now to get that first milliard...
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KillerLennart
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Posted - 2005.02.28 16:37:00 -
[110]
1.7 bill for me, and been so for way to long now, 6 months+
I So want to beet that 2 bill mark soon.
And danish for the pwnz
Millon = 1.000.000
milliard = 1.000.000.000
billiard = 1.000.000.000.000
Triliard = 1.000.000.000.000.000
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hellwarrior
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Posted - 2005.02.28 16:38:00 -
[111]
so um... over a bil, i'm special?
do i get a t shirt?
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hellwarrior
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Posted - 2005.02.28 16:39:00 -
[112]
Originally by: Andrue
Maybe a better club is The Big Spender's Club.
You can only enter if you're prepared to give the club 100mil or otherwise fritter away that sum of money. I automatically qualify because I recently lent a corp mate 450mil after thinking about it for all of twenty seconds
i droped 1.05bil on a shield booster yesterday without thinking? :)
(profit 4tw)
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Billy Lajambe
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Posted - 2005.02.28 16:41:00 -
[113]
can ijoint he club i have all of 3 mil. :P; lol jk
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Istvaan Shogaatsu
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Posted - 2005.02.28 17:57:00 -
[114]
I haven't mined since activating this account. A good portion of my wealth comes from corp theft and the mercenary business, the rest from agent missions which I'm whoring as of late to get my hands on a Caldari Navy Raven.
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IIIQIII
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Posted - 2005.02.28 18:27:00 -
[115]
corp theft lol.
the most i`ve seen in 1 year of playtime is 230mil.. MINED..
i usually do it 3 maybe 4 times a year.. mining that is.. i`m not the production type of guy...
but what i dont understand are ppl that buy 4 bil ravens and dont fly them
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Captain Woodward
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Posted - 2005.02.28 19:00:00 -
[116]
Well,Corptheft is a way of making money that i dislike,But its just me,And since you didnt rob anyone i know,I dont care
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Beldaws
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Posted - 2005.02.28 19:44:00 -
[117]
It really depends on how long you have been playing the game.
Yes, I originally made my first several billion by mining Ark. Then I used that money to buy BPOs to churn out BPCs and also to buy and sell minerals/loot/ships on the market. The market is very unstable and if you have the money to buy up cheap minerals/loot/ships and hold them until the market recovers you will make a very nice return on your money.
It wasn't that long ago that 50k rats were the scariest ones you would run across. Now though it is easy to make 10+ million an hour in just bounties. If you count the good loot and the recycled value of the bad loot, you can easily make 50-100 million a day. If you find an officer spawn then you can make several hundred million in a day or more.
It wasn't that long ago that missions were something you did just because you were bored. There sure wasn't any money to be made.
Now though, there are far too many ways to make billions in this game.
Originally by: Captain Woodward
So everyone of you guys mined your way to billionare status?
Now come on,Ive heard lots of ppl talking about npcing,For like 100mill/hour,But they never want to tell how
No,You dont have to tell me exact how you made your billions,But just in what way? Mining,NPCing?
I dont know about mining,But NPCing doesnt give too much money unless you find some rare items..Then there is these lvl 4 missions,Yea they seem good with loot and all...
But to the question,How did you get your first billion?
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Captain Woodward
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Posted - 2005.02.28 20:05:00 -
[118]
Is it still that profitable to mine arkonor? /emote is a wannabe billionare.
I was thinking of doing mining and then buy BS BPO and copy BPCs 4 life
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Nostradamu5
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Posted - 2005.02.28 21:24:00 -
[119]
If you shop in the right places you can be a Eve Billionaire with as little at $255.00 US.
Stop griping about server instability and go buy an EVE mug!
Additionally with the purchase of each mug you will receive two(2) invisible Elves.
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Artegg
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Posted - 2005.02.28 21:50:00 -
[120]
Originally by: Captain Woodward
Originally by: Demian Sky
Originally by: Captain Woodward
As i asked while the "nerds" debated about million and trillion and ****,How did you make your money?Before your money started generating more money (BS BPOs)
EHM, Arkinor...
So everyone of you guys mined your way to billionare status?
Lets put it his way i have not mined for myself for over a year
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Captain Woodward
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Posted - 2005.02.28 22:05:00 -
[121]
Well how did you get it? Im not really interested in knowing that you didnt mine,And no,You dont have to tell me exactly how (Even though thats what i want)
But then again,you dont have to tell me anything,As you just did
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Istvaan Shogaatsu
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Posted - 2005.02.28 22:52:00 -
[122]
Originally by: Captain Woodward
Well,Corptheft is a way of making money that i dislike,But its just me,And since you didnt rob anyone i know,I dont care
I feel that even if you did know someone I robbed, you wouldn't care or do anything about it, to be honest. The people of Eve are pretty much all the same - "Ohhhh, if I ever caught a corp thief, I'd pod him until he needed to retrain Bowel Movements to level 1 to take a dump properly!" - "Ohhh, corp thieves are the lowest of scum, everyone hunts them to extinction!".
I've been robbing corporations to make money for about a year now, as have some of my corpmates. We offer hangar theft as part-and-parcel of our mercenary war campaigns. Unlike most thieves I even sign my robberies with a saucy bookmark, containing my name and corp-name, left in the target's cleared out hangar - in case they want to do something about us. I estimate I've pulled thirty robberies like these so far. In all this time, after all these hits, we've seen all of one war declared against us for what we do. In all this time, even though the Guiding Hand has a very public reputation as thieves, we keep getting hired... hell, I even wrote a story about it in the library.
As far as I see it, it's a perfectly valid and often very profitable way to make money, nothing more, nothing less.
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Captain Woodward
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Posted - 2005.02.28 22:54:00 -
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Ok you got me,I wont do **** if i meet you in 0.0,Even if you robbed someone i knew,
But however, It sucks when youre the one getting robbed,I think its dishonest as hell,I dont like it,And no i didnt say i will pod you if i see you
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Yeux Gris
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Posted - 2005.03.01 07:42:00 -
[124]
I can say I aint just a billionaire I am a multibillionaire :)
Who let the cows out?! mOo. mOo. mOo.. mOo mOo...!
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Selim
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Posted - 2005.03.01 08:53:00 -
[125]
100m to go and I'm in the club, thats another year of me prowling the escrow and market looking for bargains and selling them for higher. I'm far too lazy to do anything else for ISK. I think I'm pretty well-to-do considering how I've not done a minute of actually earning that ISK through working.
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Yeux Gris
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Posted - 2005.03.02 07:53:00 -
[126]
Yeah I do that from time to time...
Made 100m the other day. I brought a Amarr BS nexus chip for 200m and after i got my navy apoc via other means from my agent onsold it for 300m :).
And there is the fact I buy ravens cheap like 125m and sell em for 150m in my system where new L4 agent runners pop everyday :P
Originally by: Selim
100m to go and I'm in the club, thats another year of me prowling the escrow and market looking for bargains and selling them for higher. I'm far too lazy to do anything else for ISK. I think I'm pretty well-to-do considering how I've not done a minute of actually earning that ISK through working.
Who let the cows out?! mOo. mOo. mOo.. mOo mOo...!
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Raven
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Posted - 2005.03.02 17:19:00 -
[127]
I'm in. Got two nice BPO's which I sold for 4,5 bill awhile ago. I will never mine again
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Captain Woodward
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Posted - 2005.03.02 18:06:00 -
[128]
Edited by: Captain Woodward on 02/03/2005 18:06:42
Edited by: Captain Woodward on 02/03/2005 18:06:07
Originally by: Yeux Gris
And there is the fact I buy ravens cheap like 125m and sell em for 150m in my system where new L4 agent runners pop everyday :P
Im on vacation atm so i cant check prices,But damn 125 million sounds much
Raven,You lucker
Edit,Messed up quotes
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Enderx45
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Posted - 2005.03.02 18:40:00 -
[129]
as of this morning i have 13,267,567.5 isk
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Captain Woodward
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Posted - 2005.03.02 19:21:00 -
[130]
Nice,How did you get them?
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Archbishop
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Posted - 2005.03.03 03:11:00 -
[131]
I've got a question for the billionare industrialists. Those who have several billion in assets but not really cash.
Are you a "bookkeeper"? By that I mean do you have charts, spreadsheets, records, stuff like that?
I'm asking because as a builder I even keep a mineral inventory on excel and track my mineral wealth. The BP's stay the same but the cash and minerals fluctuate alot.
Anyone else here into graphs and spreadsheets?
Archbishop
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Captain Woodward
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Posted - 2005.03.03 09:59:00 -
[132]
Bumping sucks,But i really want to have a answer to archbishops question
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Derran
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Posted - 2005.03.06 21:51:00 -
[133]
Originally by: Lord Frost
Ok... just curious on how rich the people in Eve have become. If you are personally a billionaire... please sign and post here.
You need to have 1,000,000,000 or more isk... this does NOT include assests... isk ONLY.
To answer Lord Frost's inquiry, I just became a member of this club.
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Azeusus
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Posted - 2005.03.06 22:17:00 -
[134]
Yay im in the club
Aint and will never mine again, abit of clever trading makes ISK and ye ole pirates loot sells nice
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Donna Divine
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Posted - 2005.03.07 00:29:00 -
[135]
As of yesterday I had 120 mill.
Today I have 320.
Give me a week and I'll join the club.
Btw, all billionaires can consider them invited to my ex-**** star party in Luminaire I orbit next week.
I'm told a friend will lend us his Opus luxury yacht for a nice fiesta.
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Khatred
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Posted - 2005.03.07 06:07:00 -
[136]
Edited by: Khatred on 07/03/2005 06:07:53
Originally by: Archbishop
I've got a question for the billionare industrialists. Those who have several billion in assets but not really cash.
Are you a "bookkeeper"? By that I mean do you have charts, spreadsheets, records, stuff like that?
I'm asking because as a builder I even keep a mineral inventory on excel and track my mineral wealth. The BP's stay the same but the cash and minerals fluctuate alot.
Anyone else here into graphs and spreadsheets?
Archbishop
Actualy we (I mean me and my corp) have very detailed excel sheets for everything we produce with buy pices, sell prices and whatnot, we even wanted to monitor several markets at the same time but finaly we sticked with Heimatar only.
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