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Cailais
Amarr
Dawn of a new Empire
The Initiative.
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Posted - 2011.07.18 22:35:00 -
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In this interview CCP Soundwave says that Dust Mercs will 'no longer be mercs, just soldiers in your corporation'.
Sounds disappointingly fluffy. It also makes me wonder to what extent DUST members in our corporations will become essentially mandatory in order to compete strategically in EVE.
What gives CCP? I sense another duff "micro transactions ftw" idea inbound 
C.
'GREED IS GOOD' - CCP 2011 (ಠ_O)
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Beat General
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Posted - 2011.07.18 22:42:00 -
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if soundwave said it it has something to do with "GREED IS GOOD"
-general levy
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CptConorado
Amarr
Vengeance Imperium
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Posted - 2011.07.18 22:51:00 -
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 Originally by: Beat General
if soundwave said it it has something to do with "GREED IS GOOD"
-general levy
Sounds :excellent:
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Portmanteau
Gallente
CTRL-Q
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Posted - 2011.07.19 00:32:00 -
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TBF I always thought it was a stupid idea that in spaceships, pilots belong to corporations that can ally themselves to whatever cause or be mercs, but planetside, suddenly some mysterious force causes everyone to be concerned only with isk and have no loyalties whatsoever
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Ehdward
Caldari
Nex Exercitus
Raiden.
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Posted - 2011.07.19 00:41:00 -
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Originally by: Portmanteau
TBF I always thought it was a stupid idea that in spaceships, pilots belong to corporations that can ally themselves to whatever cause or be mercs, but planetside, suddenly some mysterious force causes everyone to be concerned only with isk and have no loyalties whatsoever
This.
Are people not aware that there are merc corps in EVE already? Or that mission runners are also essentially mercenaries?
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Uuali
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Posted - 2011.07.19 06:53:00 -
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Hehe. I want to be able to have the petty DUST soldiers executed at my command.
"You have failed me for the last time Admiral!" [force choke]
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Meryl SinGarda
Caldari
Belligerent Underpayed Tactical Team
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Posted - 2011.07.19 06:56:00 -
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I just want a gun neatly placed on my coffee table.
Also, read the latest piece of Dust lore yet?
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Estephania
Independent Political Analysts
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Posted - 2011.07.19 07:00:00 -
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Imho, pushing together MMO like Eve and FPS like DUST will spell doom for both of the games. Target audiences are too far apart. I understand what CCP wants to create, but I think it could be done better with some kind of planet combat MMO, not with FPS.
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Meryl SinGarda
Caldari
Belligerent Underpayed Tactical Team
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Posted - 2011.07.19 07:03:00 -
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Originally by: Estephania
...planet combat MMO, not with FPS.
It is a planet combat MMO.
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Estephania
Independent Political Analysts
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Posted - 2011.07.19 07:10:00 -
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Originally by: Meryl SinGarda
Originally by: Estephania
...planet combat MMO, not with FPS.
It is a planet combat MMO.
It is an MT based FPS, not an MMO.
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Meryl SinGarda
Caldari
Belligerent Underpayed Tactical Team
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Posted - 2011.07.19 07:12:00 -
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Originally by: Estephania
Originally by: Meryl SinGarda
Originally by: Estephania
...planet combat MMO, not with FPS.
It is a planet combat MMO.
It is an MT based FPS, not an MMO.
Why don't you tell that to Gamers1st, rehabilitate-rs of All Points Bulletin or the hundred other F2P MMOs with MT markets.
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Darko Decay
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Posted - 2011.07.19 07:14:00 -
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Originally by: Cailais
In this interview CCP Soundwave says that Dust Mercs will 'no longer be mercs, just soldiers in your corporation'.
Sounds disappointingly fluffy. It also makes me wonder to what extent DUST members in our corporations will become essentially mandatory in order to compete strategically in EVE.
As a corporation wouldn't this be the best thing to do for profit? You dont HAVE to play dust but if you dont you willl lose in eve. Oh and that super Gatling gun is $40usd
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Kunming
Amarr
T.H.U.G L.I.F.E
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Posted - 2011.07.19 07:25:00 -
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At least release it on PC..
If I wanted to deal wıth 10 year olds on a daily basis I would have been an elementary teacher.!!
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Jacob Holland
Gallente
Weyland-Vulcan Industries
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Posted - 2011.07.19 07:36:00 -
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Edited by: Jacob Holland on 19/07/2011 07:38:10
Sounds like the Dust corps in EVE Alliances is proving more difficult than expected - though as they are supposed to be able to run entirely independently it seems a little odd to force them quite so close.
Edit: And release it on PC and the mouse and keyboard equipped PC dusties would wipe out the controller equipped PS3 dusties in every engagement making it only worth playing on PC... which is hardly a good idea for a console FPS.
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Originally by: cordy
Respect to IAC .Your one of the few people who truly deserve to own and live in the space you are in.
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Ciar Meara
Amarr
Virtus Vindice
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Posted - 2011.07.19 08:10:00 -
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Keep in mind that CCP Soundwave is responsible for the flying in space part of EvE-Online. He might have some information but chances are high will not be 100% accurate. Even after vetting from CCP, communicatio is not their strong suit, even internally.
From the information that was distributed so far they want a link with the EVE universe but have not been able to pin down just how exactly all this will be done. They also stated the link might be expanded or changed but will be small at first not to upset the greater balance of things.
I think at first people will be able to hire corps to fight for them, remember this is CCP we are talking about. This game will not have all the bells and whistles they are pling plongking and tauting now. It will have some functionalities, but not nearly all the ideas that are floating around now will be implemented.
Besides people playing dust might not be interested in joining corperations full of EVE guys, DUST only corps/clan will be mercs in the purest word. Just like today in Eve there are mercs.
Perhaps we should believe them when they say they are all about free choice, the sandbox and such.
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Hilmar getur ekki tala= vi= ¦ig n·na, hann er a= fara ß japanska Tfskuverslun.
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Kuronaga
Black Snake Syndicate
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Posted - 2011.07.19 08:24:00 -
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Edited by: Kuronaga on 19/07/2011 08:27:10
Originally by: Cailais
In this interview CCP Soundwave says that Dust Mercs will 'no longer be mercs, just soldiers in your corporation'.
Sounds disappointingly fluffy. It also makes me wonder to what extent DUST members in our corporations will become essentially mandatory in order to compete strategically in EVE.
What gives CCP? I sense another duff "micro transactions ftw" idea inbound
C.
You took the context right out of that quote.
He was saying that in this particular instance, when you recruit them into your own corporation, they are no longer mercs as they work directly with you.
He was not saying there would be no DUST mercs at all, that is pure speculation on your own part and it goes against basically everything they have told us so far about the game. You then tac on the micro transaction nonsense at the end... what does that even have to do with anything?
Ya know I understand CCP has some serious issues with communication, but it doesn't help when you guys stick toilet paper in your ears and start screaming doom at the top of your lungs.
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Woodman2
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Posted - 2011.07.19 09:24:00 -
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Since I don't do any PI, how will dust affect me?
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Zey Nadar
Gallente
Unknown Soldiers
B O R G
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Posted - 2011.07.19 09:27:00 -
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Edited by: Zey Nadar on 19/07/2011 09:28:39
Im just listening to the interview, but I think the difference between "mercs" and "soldiers" is that mercs would have their own corp (as in dust players making their own dust-only corp), and soldiers would be part of a corp in Eve. If both are possible, then its just as it should be imo.
ps. Im starting to get excited again. ^^
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Malcanis
Caldari
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
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Posted - 2011.07.19 09:32:00 -
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Originally by: Woodman2
Since I don't do any PI, how will dust affect me?
It opens up a whole new class of forums tears.
Malcanis' Law: Whenever a mechanics change is proposed on behalf of "new players", that change is always to the overwhelming advantage of richer, older players. |
Cailais
Amarr
Dawn of a new Empire
The Initiative.
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Posted - 2011.07.19 12:22:00 -
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Originally by: Kuronaga
Edited by: Kuronaga on 19/07/2011 08:27:10
Originally by: Cailais
In this interview CCP Soundwave says that Dust Mercs will 'no longer be mercs, just soldiers in your corporation'.
Sounds disappointingly fluffy. It also makes me wonder to what extent DUST members in our corporations will become essentially mandatory in order to compete strategically in EVE.
What gives CCP? I sense another duff "micro transactions ftw" idea inbound
C.
You took the context right out of that quote.
He was saying that in this particular instance, when you recruit them into your own corporation, they are no longer mercs as they work directly with you.
He was not saying there would be no DUST mercs at all, that is pure speculation on your own part and it goes against basically everything they have told us so far about the game. You then tac on the micro transaction nonsense at the end... what does that even have to do with anything?
Ya know I understand CCP has some serious issues with communication, but it doesn't help when you guys stick toilet paper in your ears and start screaming doom at the top of your lungs.
I'm not screaming; but I would like to hear from CCP how we might expect the DUST <> EVE link to work.
C.
'GREED IS GOOD' - CCP 2011 (ಠ_O)
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ChromeStriker
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Posted - 2011.07.19 12:34:00 -
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just got to say this made me laugh, bit redundant dont you think?
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Cailais
Amarr
Dawn of a new Empire
The Initiative.
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Posted - 2011.07.19 13:28:00 -
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Originally by: ChromeStriker
just got to say this made me laugh, bit redundant dont you think?
The great man, John Turbefield, should never be made redundant - there would be rioting in the streets!
C.
'GREED IS GOOD' - CCP 2011 (ಠ_O)
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Ghoest
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Posted - 2011.07.19 14:12:00 -
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I Guess "mercs" dont buy enough pants.
Wherever you went - Here you are.
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OHU812
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Posted - 2011.07.19 14:21:00 -
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If what I heard is true: "Ground forces within DUST will control the sov of systems."
Then I find this game will be broken more than it is now.
Why? Keeping in sinq with real life events everyone knows that whoever controls the air controls the ground.
With ^^^ in mind, how do they figure a bunch of morons running around on the ground is going to be any compentition for spaceships... the ultimate in air support!
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Not-Apsalar
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Posted - 2011.07.19 14:31:00 -
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Originally by: OHU812
If what I heard is true: "Ground forces within DUST will control the sov of systems."
Then I find this game will be broken more than it is now.
Why? Keeping in sinq with real life events everyone knows that whoever controls the air controls the ground.
With ^^^ in mind, how do they figure a bunch of morons running around on the ground is going to be any compentition for spaceships... the ultimate in air support!
I imagine it has to do more with resource control when you talk about sov in that context.
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Beelzebubz
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Posted - 2011.07.19 19:59:00 -
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Originally by: OHU812
If what I heard is true: "Ground forces within DUST will control the sov of systems."
Then I find this game will be broken more than it is now.
Why? Keeping in sinq with real life events everyone knows that whoever controls the air controls the ground.
With ^^^ in mind, how do they figure a bunch of morons running around on the ground is going to be any compentition for spaceships... the ultimate in air support!
think of it more as youve just taken over a system, that system has native inhabitants, you send in people to kill everyone resisting you on the planets so you can safely harvest their precious aqueous liquids, small organisms, ect.
or if you prefer, youve just taken over a system from another corp, that corp happened to have troops stationed on the planets and "forgot" to airlift them out when they left the system. if you dont send in troops to kill the leftovers you wont be able to safely harvest their yada, yada, yada.
if air controlled the ground we wouldnt still be in afghanistan, our uavs would have killed every last person in the country, but you still need people to go in the caves and flush the baddies out
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daddys helper
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Posted - 2011.07.19 20:14:00 -
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welp, since dust bunnies will have p2w and dust bunnies will have strategic implications in eve, you better start figuring out who the wealthy dust bunnies are 
imagine, losing eve because your dusties are poor....
nope... no p2w in eve... no sir...
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Hirana Yoshida
Behavioral Affront
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Posted - 2011.07.19 20:56:00 -
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As long as I get to do strafing runs against the dirt-dwellers in my Slicer at some point they can call them whatever they bloody well like 
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Kerrisone
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Posted - 2011.07.19 23:01:00 -
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Originally by: Cailais
Originally by: Kuronaga
Edited by: Kuronaga on 19/07/2011 08:27:10
Originally by: Cailais
In this interview CCP Soundwave says that Dust Mercs will 'no longer be mercs, just soldiers in your corporation'.
Sounds disappointingly fluffy. It also makes me wonder to what extent DUST members in our corporations will become essentially mandatory in order to compete strategically in EVE.
What gives CCP? I sense another duff "micro transactions ftw" idea inbound
C.
You took the context right out of that quote.
He was saying that in this particular instance, when you recruit them into your own corporation, they are no longer mercs as they work directly with you.
He was not saying there would be no DUST mercs at all, that is pure speculation on your own part and it goes against basically everything they have told us so far about the game. You then tac on the micro transaction nonsense at the end... what does that even have to do with anything?
Ya know I understand CCP has some serious issues with communication, but it doesn't help when you guys stick toilet paper in your ears and start screaming doom at the top of your lungs.
I'm not screaming; but I would like to hear from CCP how we might expect the DUST <> EVE link to work.
C.
Allegedly the CSM didn't think it was worth asking about when they went to the special summit seeing as how DUST will have MT for advantage/circumvent the market and the summit was also about MT and EVE's direction under CCP.
Originally by: Ghoest
Ill watch what you do not what you say.
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Kuronaga
Black Snake Syndicate
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Posted - 2011.07.20 00:11:00 -
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Originally by: Cailais
I'm not screaming; but I would like to hear from CCP how we might expect the DUST <> EVE link to work.
C.
They have already told you as much as is concrete.
You just don't like the answer and are somehow expecting them to come out and tell you they are going to retcon all of your baseless fears into something more tangible.
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