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Midnight Hope
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.09.20 17:25:00 -
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I just saw the minnie destroyer video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-M6n-YhIvno).
Let's say I was less than impressed. It actually looks like a Matilda II tank (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matilda_tank) with a snow plow attached to the front.
Please CCP, don't tell us there where no other designs for this... no alternatives. Anything could have been better than this brick!
I beg you to reconsider.
PS: Caldari/Gallente look great so far :) |
Aglais
Liberation Army
BricK sQuAD.
103
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Posted - 2012.09.20 22:24:00 -
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And you didn't see the honestly sound designs for the Stabber and Tempest?
That balances it out perfectly, IMO. |
Eli Green
The Arrow Project
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Posted - 2012.09.20 22:33:00 -
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looks good IMO, but then again if you don't like it don't fly it. simple as that. |
Velarra
Ghost Festival
Naraka.
111
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Posted - 2012.09.21 02:06:00 -
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-How- does that look bad to you? Sharp edges, symmetry, it's like a thrasher with a bit more body. |
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CCP Goliath
C C P
C C P Alliance
905
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Posted - 2012.09.21 11:40:00 -
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I'd like to remind you all that the new destroyers aren't the focus of testing, they are incidental WiP contained in the build. The art team have not requested early focus on their work nor are the actively seeking feedback so will not be monitoring threads.
CCP Goliath | QA Director | @CCP_Goliath |
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Sirinda
Skadi Imperium
Kill It With Fire
123
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Posted - 2012.09.21 18:15:00 -
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CCP Goliath wrote:I'd like to remind you all that the new destroyers aren't the focus of testing, they are incidental WiP contained in the build. The art team have not requested early focus on their work nor are the actively seeking feedback so will not be monitoring threads.
Be that as it may, but I doubt they'd have a problem with the admiration for their great work expressed here.
Gotta admit, I really like the new Caldari destroyer, though the Gallente one's model isn't far behind.
Also, I never thought I'd ever warm up to the Tempest, I really didn't. Its new model definitely shows promise. |
ITTigerClawIK
Galactic Rangers
Intrepid Crossing
133
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Posted - 2012.09.25 00:31:00 -
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am looking foward to the tempest model and the minnie dessie is looking very nice also liek the caldari one, gallente one, im not sure what to make of that really, but i guess i shall wait till a base texture at least before judgeing that one, looking ofward to seeeing the amarrian one soon ^_^ |
X Gallentius
Justified Chaos
502
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Posted - 2012.09.25 15:05:00 -
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Both (Minmatar and Caldari) destroyers need a mast and sail. |
Skippermonkey
Tactical Knightmare
1437
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Posted - 2012.09.25 15:50:00 -
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CCP Goliath wrote:The art team have not requested early focus on their work nor are the actively seeking feedback so will not be monitoring threads. While they might not be monitoring threads regarding this, i hope to God that one of you have at least informed them of the general opinion of the new Minmatar destroyer design from areas of this forum such as 'General Discussion'.
It would be irresponsible to ignore the reactions to the leaked designs at this early stage where changes can be easily made.
TK is recruiting |
Deukmans Fehrnah
DD Boot-Camp
0
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Posted - 2012.09.25 16:38:00 -
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anyone got screens from amarr/gallente desssie? have seen the caldari/minnie on youtube but couldnt find any screens of the other 2.
and the people are right, minnie destroyer is like a brick with a christmas tree, at least the caldari dessie looks cool. |
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MotherMoon
Blue Republic
RvB - BLUE Republic
1133
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Posted - 2012.09.25 20:02:00 -
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Skippermonkey wrote:[quote=CCP Goliath]
It would be responsible to ignore the reactions to the leaked designs at this early stage where changes can be easily made.
fixed it for you
http://dl.eve-files.com/media/1206/scimi.jpg |
Anaphylacti
SniggWaffe
YOUR VOTES DON'T COUNT
3
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Posted - 2012.09.26 05:26:00 -
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Minnie Destroyer? Oh you mean the space enemaGäó? Yea that thing is horrendous... |
Jada Maroo
Mysterium Astrometrics
832
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Posted - 2012.09.26 10:07:00 -
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CCP Goliath wrote:I'd like to remind you all that the new destroyers aren't the focus of testing, they are incidental WiP contained in the build. The art team have not requested early focus on their work nor are the actively seeking feedback so will not be monitoring threads.
At what stage are we allowed to save them from themselves?
A week before release when nothing can be done? |
Bigpimping
Pimp Inc.
50
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Posted - 2012.09.26 19:01:00 -
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Seriously, the new minnie destroyer looks even worse than the 3rd place in the DA design-a-starship competition and that was crap |
Luc Chastot
Moira.
Villore Accords
10
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Posted - 2012.09.26 20:11:00 -
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Most people seem to be happy with the new Minmatar dessy, but I guess the nay-sayers would prefer something like this: http://thumbs.imagekind.com/member/371a96b6-01a4-4311-bf39-c04ecb00ac2c/uploadedartwork/650X650/cb21508b-1569-4d2a-a5aa-6d809bb3b8c3.jpg |
Jada Maroo
Mysterium Astrometrics
832
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Posted - 2012.09.26 20:58:00 -
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Luc Chastot wrote:Most people seem to be happy with the new Minmatar dessy
Only if by "most" you mean almost no one. In the threads I've seen on the topic, about 4 out of 5 agree it's a **** model that needs to be scrapped completely and started from scratch. |
Jerick Ludhowe
Toxic Waste Industries
159
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Posted - 2012.09.26 21:15:00 -
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Jada Maroo wrote:
Only if by "most" you mean almost no one. In the threads I've seen on the topic, about 4 out of 5 agree it's a **** model that needs to be scrapped completely and started from scratch.
This. Lots of hate for that model as it's just ugly and dumb looking...
Look what's been done to the tempest, and look what's been done to the vaga/stabber... Those 3 models look great. Stick with what works, some weird looking spiky bug turd is not the answer.
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Oberine Noriepa
927
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Posted - 2012.09.27 15:47:00 -
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I think it looks fine. Certainly isn't the worst looking ship in the game. |
MidnightWyvern
Lightbringer's Sanctuary
RAZOR Alliance
23
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Posted - 2012.09.27 15:51:00 -
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I'm sure you all recall how we ended up with a completely different Purifier model from the one shown at FanFest after the lukewarm reception it received on-stage. Hopefully we can pull off the same thing here. I thought that hull would grow on me, but it hasn't.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=eaUaJUhTZfw#t=148s
An excellent example of why pod killmails are the best feature to be implemented in EVE Online since warping at zero. |
Penelope Pipebomb
The Freak Show
0
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Posted - 2012.09.27 18:14:00 -
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these look like the work of 1st year students.. kind of expected something really impressive to match the new stealth bombers... i loved the t3 battle cruisers.. and had great hope for the dessie art...... these are sad... pls dont? |
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Jerick Ludhowe
Toxic Waste Industries
159
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Posted - 2012.09.27 18:32:00 -
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Oberine Noriepa wrote:I think it looks fine. Certainly isn't the worst looking ship in the game.
"Fine" is not what we should be settling for with new content. If they don't look "great" then CCP has ****** up, period.
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Jing Xin
Gravity Mining and Manufacturing Inc
3
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Posted - 2012.09.27 20:51:00 -
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The model in that video looks incomplete, at least. EVE players are used to some quality starship design, please keep it up. |
Mars Theran
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
322
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Posted - 2012.09.29 09:46:00 -
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Penelope Pipebomb wrote:these look like the work of 1st year students.. kind of expected something really impressive to match the new stealth bombers... i loved the t3 battle cruisers.. and had great hope for the dessie art...... these are sad... pls dont?
WiP are very hard to place as good or bad to the untrained eye. The Caldari and Minmatar Dessies may be textured and close to completion, and enough can be see to determine they are roughly intact and have little evolution left in their design.
The Tempest is further along than the Gallente, but still has texturing to bring it near completion, where the Gallente Destroyer is actually very roughly shaped and needs a lot of refinement yet. Nowhere near texturing on that one, but I can tell you, that it is very good. I like that design and I'll be happy to fly it, whatever the bonuses.
Unfortunately, the Minmatar Dessie leaves a lot to be desired. I think that might stem from the artists attempt to maintain a distinctly Minmatar appearance on at least some of the ships. Definitely overdid it I think, as I find it very hard to appreciate the design as is.
Maybe I was actually sleeping in front of my computer and dreamed I posted. Certainly, it's not there now. |
Mars Theran
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
322
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Posted - 2012.09.29 10:03:00 -
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Good: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-M6n-YhIvno&feature=player_detailpage#t=21s
The rear engine housing and aft section of the ship fits nicely. I have no problem with it.
Also good in some respect: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-M6n-YhIvno&feature=player_detailpage#t=37s
In this one, you'll see that the front 'wingy bits' are awkwardly attached but not unappealing in form from this particular angle. The housing on the top of the ship is absolutely atrocious, but the front section between the two wingy bits, where they connect, isn't that bad.
Not so good: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-M6n-YhIvno&feature=player_detailpage#t=14s
This side profile is awful. Too many squares, and far to regular of a railway-tie-like chunkiness along the length of the ship, and still that awful housing. *edited out* Actually, I'm mistaken; it's not the symmetry of the wingy bits; it's the chunky square blob on the bottom of the nose behind them. The wingy bits look fine if you ignore it.
Maybe I was actually sleeping in front of my computer and dreamed I posted. Certainly, it's not there now. |
Anabella Rella
Gradient
Electus Matari
251
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Posted - 2012.09.29 21:20:00 -
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I'm very disappointed in the new destroyer. I realize aesthetics are extremely subjective but, it really has no "family appearance" connection to other Minmatar ships and looks hurriedly thrown together. I mean no disrespect to the artists who designed this ship but it looks like a brick that someone attached a snow plow to the front of. Next to the re-imagined Stabber and Tempest it looks downright dowdy.
I know that this thread isn't being officially monitored but hopefully the fact that this ship's less than stellar looks (and I'm being kind) have been brought up in several other threads will generate attention from someone in CCP.
What you want is irrelevant, what you've chosen is at hand. |
Aethlyn
EVE University
Ivy League
142
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Posted - 2012.09.30 08:05:00 -
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Yep, I'm not impressed either. I like the idea of an oversized Breacher/Hound hull, but it's just too simple "block with panels" for me. While this looks rather good on a frigate, a destroyer needs more attachments/elements distracting from the base form. Considering this ship is in the website/promotional images, I don't expect any immediate changes just not being on the test server (e.g. incomplete model).
Looking for more thoughts? Read http://aethlyn.blogspot.com/ or follow me on http://twitter.com/Aethlyn. |
Morgan North
The Wild Bunch
Electus Matari
84
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Posted - 2012.09.30 09:13:00 -
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That Tsunami...
...Its the Ore Frigate! |
Panhead4411
Rothschild's Sewage and Septic Sucking Services
The Possum Lodge
213
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Posted - 2012.09.30 16:55:00 -
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CCP Goliath wrote:I'd like to remind you all that the new destroyers aren't the focus of testing, they are incidental WiP contained in the build. The art team have not requested early focus on their work nor are the actively seeking feedback so will not be monitoring threads.
So....what your telling us is, at the early stages, while things can still be easily changed, you do not want or care for feedback?
At what point is it generally excepted for feedback?
B/c less than 2 weeks before the pushed release for token feedback hasn't helped you retain customers much lately...
http://blog.beyondreality.se/shift-click-does-nothing -á-á < Unified Inventory is NOT ready... |
Mars Theran
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
327
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Posted - 2012.09.30 18:22:00 -
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Panhead4411 wrote:CCP Goliath wrote:I'd like to remind you all that the new destroyers aren't the focus of testing, they are incidental WiP contained in the build. The art team have not requested early focus on their work nor are the actively seeking feedback so will not be monitoring threads. So....what your telling us is, at the early stages, while things can still be easily changed, you do not want or care for feedback? At what point is it generally excepted for feedback? B/c less than 2 weeks before the pushed release for token feedback hasn't helped you retain customers much lately...
Well, honestly, it isn't too hard to change anything with models at any time. The new Dessie is going to be as much work to change now, as it will be down the road, provided all they do are some minor modifications. It is pretty well a complete model already, and the textures are wrapped and pretty well complete.
Any changes to shape and structure will need new texture wraps and art, and then refitting hardpoints if needed. The changes I suggested wouldn't need changes to hardpoints, and could keep some of the original texture, but would still need a new wrap and some additional modeling. It's not quick and simple, to say the least, but it is maybe faster than doing an entirely new model.
Maybe I was actually sleeping in front of my computer and dreamed I posted. Certainly, it's not there now. |
Jada Maroo
Mysterium Astrometrics
838
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Posted - 2012.09.30 23:59:00 -
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^ That's all true but it's kind of sloppy to launch with an obviously amateurish design and then replace it a couple months later. Makes CCP look like they don't have their act together.
It's a bit worrying about the lack of response and the dismissiveness of the earlier dev reply. The model is so bad that people were speculating that it was a dev troll over at FH. |
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