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MataHarry
Imperial Shipment
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Posted - 2011.07.30 13:20:00 -
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Hey all,
I have a problem running EVE online on my Sony vgn-sz1xp with Ge Force 7400 go graphic card series. When I run client it loads for some time, the screen blinks black a couple of time, then BSOD and reboot. Any clues anyone ? I updated latest directx and latest drivers from Sony (Nvidia sites states that I should get drivers updates directly from sony rather than from NVIDIA site). If try to install drivers from Nvidia website they simply dont work - i get message that compatible hardware is not found on machine.
Im running Windows XP with SP 3.
Please help!
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K'uata Sayus
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Posted - 2011.07.30 14:05:00 -
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Methinks your video card just isn't powerful enough to enable you to go Nex shopping.
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dexington
Caldari
Baconoration
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Posted - 2011.07.30 14:09:00 -
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Sounds like a problem with you video card drivers, but just to be sure you could try and run the repair tool, which you can find in a sub-folder in the eve installation folder.
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Pyth2
Tower of Ravens
The Laughing Men
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Posted - 2011.07.30 14:10:00 -
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Edited by: Pyth2 on 30/07/2011 14:13:04
Your GPU is 6 years old. In tech terms it's a fossil. In fact, on looking up the specs for your notebook, you have a 1.6 ghz dual core, with 1 gig of ram and a 100 gig HD.
And you're posting to ask why your 6 year old comp can't seem to run EvE due to hardware incompatibilities? You just. and I mean -just- barely come in over min hardware specs. And I strongly doubt those specs have been upgraded with CQ in mind. That is why you fail.
Trade in your dinosaur for a newer comp. Fred Flintstone has a better system then you.
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dexington
Caldari
Baconoration
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Posted - 2011.07.30 14:12:00 -
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 Originally by: Pyth2
And you're posting to ask why your 6 year old comp can't seem to run EvE due to hardware incompatibilities?
It supports vortex and pixel shaders 3.0, i think it should be able to load eve.
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Pyth2
Tower of Ravens
The Laughing Men
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Posted - 2011.07.30 14:15:00 -
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Load eve? Perhaps, it does come in right exactly on min specs, to load the game. No where near recomended specs.
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dexington
Caldari
Baconoration
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Posted - 2011.07.30 14:19:00 -
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Edited by: dexington on 30/07/2011 14:19:20
Originally by: Pyth2
Load eve? Perhaps, it does come in right exactly on min specs, to load the game. No where near recomended specs.
It seems to live up to the minimum specs, so the program should be able to load on the hardware platform.
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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2011.07.30 14:26:00 -
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Edited by: Akita T on 30/07/2011 14:28:04
Originally by: MataHarry
When I run client it loads for some time, the screen blinks black a couple of time, then BSOD and reboot. Any clues anyone ?
Most likely, because the game client should push your (rather weak and old) machine to the limit of what it can (theoretically) do even at low detail levels, your laptop gets so hot around the CPU/GPU that it ends up resetting.
I have a feeling you NEVER actually took it apart and cleaned the dust and grime buildup inside, have you ?
And even if you do that, or even if it was like brand-new, it might still reset if the environment temperature is not low enough to allow the puny built-in cooling to dissipate enough heat. If you have AC, try using your machine after you ramped the AC up to the minimum room temperature first.
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Pyth2
Tower of Ravens
The Laughing Men
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Posted - 2011.07.30 14:28:00 -
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More likely he's trying to load into a station with CQ turned on. That notebook doesn't even remotely approach the min reqs of CQ, and so of course, can't load it.
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dexington
Caldari
Baconoration
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Posted - 2011.07.30 14:30:00 -
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Originally by: Pyth2
More likely he's trying to load into a station with CQ turned on. That notebook doesn't even remotely approach the min reqs of CQ, and so of course, can't load it.
As i understand the OP, the login screen don't load, which has nothing to do with the CQ.
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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2011.07.30 14:32:00 -
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Edited by: Akita T on 30/07/2011 14:34:03
Originally by: dexington
As i understand the OP, the login screen don't load, which has nothing to do with the CQ.
Hmm... then it might not be the temperature either. I just assumed he meant after logging in, but I probably shouldn't have assumed that.
It should not be a DX problem either, since he has XP not Win7.
But you never know, when in doubt, reinstall/upgrade DirectX too, just in case.
Use this redist package from MS.
Hey, OP, has EVE ever worked in the past on that machine ? And it just stopped loading on some patch ? Or this is the first time you're trying EVE on it ?
And does this happen after you login, or before the login screen shows up ?
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Potrondal Morrison
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Posted - 2011.07.30 14:38:00 -
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It may not be the GPU drivers, but the sound card drivers. Find out what sound card you have, wether it be onboard or a sperate card, and update the drivers for that and see if that makes any difference.
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Pyth2
Tower of Ravens
The Laughing Men
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Posted - 2011.07.30 14:48:00 -
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It's a notebook so assuredly onboard sound. If you can even make the login screen, hit esc and disable loading station enviroments, or clarify a bit exactly when in the login process things are going bad for you.
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Mr Kidd
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Posted - 2011.07.30 14:48:00 -
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Here's some useful information:
Your GPU supports shader 3.0. So technically you can run CQ, albeit slowly.
As long as you're willing to deal with your lack of performance Eve should run. I ran Eve on my Aspire One netbook for a while before CQ invalidated it because of shader 3.0.
As for the BSOD, this sounds like a driver issue. Update your system's drivers for everything
As with all older hardware, the support lifecycle is getting smaller and smaller so it may not be possible to update your video beyond what the manf. has provided. In these cases some really smart people out there sometimes know how to make non-manf. specific drivers work. I would definitely look around if you have no other options. There might be a driver floating around out there for you.
Also, don't forget to look for updates for DirectX. I setup a machine before CQ that already had DirectX 9c installed but apparently was still missing something. Downloaded the latest from MS and it worked.
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MataHarry
Imperial Shipment
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Posted - 2011.07.30 14:55:00 -
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Originally by: Pyth2
Edited by: Pyth2 on 30/07/2011 14:13:04
Your GPU is 6 years old. In tech terms it's a fossil. In fact, on looking up the specs for your notebook, you have a 1.6 ghz dual core, with 1 gig of ram and a 100 gig HD.
And you're posting to ask why your 6 year old comp can't seem to run EvE due to hardware incompatibilities? You just. and I mean -just- barely come in over min hardware specs. And I strongly doubt those specs have been upgraded with CQ in mind. That is why you fail.
Trade in your dinosaur for a newer comp. Fred Flintstone has a better system then you.
Ye, you are correct its a 6 year old machine. Actually I dont mean to play on it, I just wanted to be able to load client and change skills that is all.
Akita - its a brand new machine, somehow I have this relic from old times, but I used to own exactly the same machine back then and eve worked fine. I used to run old graphics client on it, before they upgraded it to premium. And premium would still work, just painfully slow so you cant really play on it, but it should run.
So my take is that the client should load at least, but its giving me BSOD. Im gonna try upgrading directx right now again, see what happens.
Any other clues apart from that ? It just so happens that its the only machine I could change my skills from at the moment and thats why i really need it up and running ... |
HopeAndFear
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Posted - 2011.07.30 14:58:00 -
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Originally by: MataHarry
.....(Nvidia sites states that I should get drivers updates directly from sony rather than from NVIDIA site). If try to install drivers from Nvidia website they simply dont work - i get message that compatible hardware is not found on machine.....
There are ways around this. The driver installer is looking at the hardware device ID's in your system and comparing them against a list of supported chips for the particular driver you are trying to install. What you need to do is get the ID for your particular graphics chip and add the ID to the INF file that the driver installer is using.
Be warned though, as this is trickery and will only work right if you are using a proper driver. One of my nvidia systems (geforce 6800) needs quite older drivers in order to work right, I suspect your 7 series chip would also need a properly chosen driver.
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dexington
Caldari
Baconoration
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Posted - 2011.07.30 15:01:00 -
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Originally by: MataHarry
So my take is that the client should load at least, but its giving me BSOD. Im gonna try upgrading directx right now again, see what happens.
When you get a BSOD it tells you some information about why windows crashed, maybe it tells you that a nvidia dll file was the the course of the crach, which could mean directx or your video card drivers are the problems. If it's some other driver, that may give you an indication of what the course of the problems is.
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dexington
Caldari
Baconoration
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Posted - 2011.07.30 15:04:00 -
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This is the newest nvidia driver for you card >> Linkage
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Abriael VonRosen
Caldari
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Posted - 2011.07.30 16:04:00 -
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Black screen of death or blue screen of death?
Black -> Possibly overheating, laptops do that a ton on graphically intensive crap
Blue -> Driver issue.
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dexington
Caldari
Baconoration
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Posted - 2011.07.30 16:05:00 -
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Originally by: Abriael VonRosen
Black -> Possibly overheating, laptops do that a ton on graphically intensive crap
Not to load the log in screen.
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Abriael VonRosen
Caldari
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Posted - 2011.07.30 16:10:00 -
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Originally by: dexington
Originally by: Abriael VonRosen
Black -> Possibly overheating, laptops do that a ton on graphically intensive crap
Not to load the log in screen.
It depends, the login screen is still 3D with an overlay. I tried loading eve on my old crappy Pavilion once, and it shoot temps over 70. Never tried anymore after that.
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Bootleg Jack
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Posted - 2011.07.30 16:13:00 -
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The guy has 1 gig of ram, why are you people even debating this, he is playing off of hard disk swap memory.
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dexington
Caldari
Baconoration
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Posted - 2011.07.30 16:18:00 -
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Originally by: Bootleg Jack
The guy has 1 gig of ram, why are you people even debating this, he is playing off of hard disk swap memory.
RAM: XP (SP2) û 1 GB / Vista û 1.5 GB
Because we read the system requirements, before posting...
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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2011.07.30 16:27:00 -
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Originally by: Bootleg Jack
The guy has 1 gig of ram, why are you people even debating this, he is playing off of hard disk swap memory.
With CQ off and with low graphic detail in space and caching turned off, 1 GB of RAM should be quite enough for "EVE in space" on an XP machine without having to churn the swap file.
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Pyth2
Tower of Ravens
The Laughing Men
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Posted - 2011.07.30 16:53:00 -
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Depending very much on what else he happens to be running. With Chrome open atm I'm using 115ish, utorrent another 5, windows xp is chewing up maybe 50.
God knows what kind of ram the sony software suite that thing almost definitly holds is chewing up. EvE itself tends to hovor around 800ish just sitting in space, doesn't leave a lot of room for anything else. His page file is almost certainly being heavily used.
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dexington
Caldari
Baconoration
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Posted - 2011.07.30 16:59:00 -
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Originally by: Pyth2
Depending very much on what else he happens to be running. With Chrome open atm I'm using 115ish, utorrent another 5, windows xp is chewing up maybe 50.
God knows what kind of ram the sony software suite that thing almost definitly holds is chewing up. EvE itself tends to hovor around 800ish just sitting in space, doesn't leave a lot of room for anything else. His page file is almost certainly being heavily used.
oh please stop, if you really think this is the problem, then suggest that the OP deal with it accordingly. Trying to prove that you may be right is not helping anyone.
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Yoa Loother
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Posted - 2011.07.30 17:05:00 -
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Originally by: Akita T
Originally by: Bootleg Jack
The guy has 1 gig of ram, why are you people even debating this, he is playing off of hard disk swap memory.
1 GB of RAM should be quite enough.
Should be but it isnŠt. The XP system needs some actual memory too.
OPs EVE gaming days are over, simple as that.
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dexington
Caldari
Baconoration
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Posted - 2011.07.30 17:11:00 -
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Originally by: Yoa Loother
1 GB of RAM should be quite enough.
Should be but it isnŠt. The XP system needs some actual memory too.
OPs EVE gaming days are over, simple as that.
wrong, eve will load on a system with 1gb ram.
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That Handsome Frog
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Posted - 2011.07.30 17:14:00 -
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This is what I hear from this thread
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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2011.07.30 18:09:00 -
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Edited by: Akita T on 30/07/2011 18:12:11
Originally by: Yoa Loother
Originally by: Akita T
Originally by: Bootleg Jack
The guy has 1 gig of ram, why are you people even debating this, he is playing off of hard disk swap memory.
With CQ off and with low graphic detail in space and caching turned off, 1 GB of RAM should be quite enough for "EVE in space" on an XP machine without having to churn the swap file.
Should be but it isnŠt. The XP system needs some actual memory too.
OPs EVE gaming days are over, simple as that.
With all effects still on, but everything else on lowest, CQ off and resource cache disabled, on first undock in a not particularly crowded area, the total EVE memory footprint is only about 600 MB of RAM.
With everything on highest and enabled (except CQ still disabled), that jumps up to about 820 MB.
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Pyth2
Tower of Ravens
The Laughing Men
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Posted - 2011.07.30 18:55:00 -
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Originally by: dexington
Originally by: Pyth2
Depending very much on what else he happens to be running. With Chrome open atm I'm using 115ish, utorrent another 5, windows xp is chewing up maybe 50.
God knows what kind of ram the sony software suite that thing almost definitly holds is chewing up. EvE itself tends to hovor around 800ish just sitting in space, doesn't leave a lot of room for anything else. His page file is almost certainly being heavily used.
oh please stop, if you really think this is the problem, then suggest that the OP deal with it accordingly. Trying to prove that you may be right is not helping anyone.
I already made a suggestion to fix the problem. Stop trying to load eve on a 6 year old system that just barely pinches out the minimum required spec to start the program and upgrade.
It's plain to see that his system is woefully under powered and unable to even start eve.
I'd further postulate that minimum specs listed for EvE are a load of wishful thinking at best. Those specs look more like, if you have a freshly formatted comp, with just cleaned fans and heat sinks, with nothing but win xp and eve installed, you might get it booted up to the title screen. -Might-.
**** and moan about fixing his drivers all you want, it won't do a damn thing. Drivers are not going to add at least a gig of ram to his system, nor upgrade his GPU. Which are the reasons for failure here.
You can't expect to run a game with a graphics engine released in 2009 to run on such a poor notebook, from 2005. You'd likely be better off trying to run EvE on an iphone.
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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2011.07.30 19:00:00 -
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Edited by: Akita T on 30/07/2011 19:07:35
Originally by: Pyth2
I already made a suggestion to fix the problem. Stop trying to load eve on a 6 year old system that just barely pinches out the minimum required spec to start the program and upgrade.
If he'd be complaining about poor performance, you would have a point. But he's not complaining about THAT.
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minimum specs listed for EvE are a load of wishful thinking at best. Those specs look more like, if you have a freshly formatted comp, with just cleaned fans and heat sinks, with nothing but win xp and eve installed, you might get it booted up to the title screen. -Might-.
Not "might". SHOULD. Your HDD might churn, your FPS will be bad, but it should start. If all you want to do is check the market and swap skills, you don't even NEED 1 FPS.
In fact, I can bet you that I could log into EVE and switch a skill or something like that on a machine that's BELOW minimal spec. for each critical hardware component... like, oh, say, a 6xxx series NVIDIA, 1.2 GHz single-core Celeron (but supporting SSE2) and only 512 MB of RAM.
Yes, it will work HORRIBLY, but it WILL work.
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**** and moan about fixing his drivers all you want, it won't do a damn thing. Drivers are not going to add at least a gig of ram to his system, nor upgrade his GPU. Which are the reasons for failure here.
System doesn't BSOD because you have too little RAM. Too little RAM results in heavy swap file usage, NOT reboots. And under ideal circumstances with XP, 1 GB of RAM should mean you're barely even TOUCHING the swap file while running EVE on lowest everything.
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You can't expect to run a game with a graphics engine released in 2009 to run on such a poor notebook, from 2005. You'd likely be better off trying to run EvE on an iphone.
You can't expect it to run WELL. But you can expect it to run, period.
If it doesn't run, there's a problem with that particular machine (be it hardware fault or software screwup), it's not a problem with the hardware specs.
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Pyth2
Tower of Ravens
The Laughing Men
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Posted - 2011.07.30 19:12:00 -
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I'd say inability to even open the game without BSOD is 'poor performance' lol.
Maxing out your swap file can indeed cause reboots and all sorts of messed up errors as data gets lost and chucked since it has nowhere to go. Entirely possible I'd say, given that he has a 100 gig HD his swap file is likely set very tiny.
Again I say the min reqs listed for EvE are optimistic at best. Maybe they can fire the game up on a machine with those specs in lab conditions, but a gunked up 6 year old machine full of temp files, old ****, grandmas free smilies malware, limewire, old torrents and other crap gunking it up. Doubt it.
Hell, that thing is so old I bet it still has gator corp spyware and limewire on it.
Let's do a fun experiment OP. Reboot that comp, let it fully finish the boot process, ctrl+alt+del and check your running processes. I'm insanely curious to see how many processes you have running, and how much memory they're eating. Check available space on the HDD while you're at it.
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malus mendax
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Posted - 2011.07.30 19:17:00 -
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lol... got to love the windows noobs, "you computer can't run that, buy a new computer".
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MataHarry
Imperial Shipment
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Posted - 2011.07.30 19:26:00 -
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Originally by: Pyth2
Originally by: dexington
Originally by: Pyth2
Depending very much on what else he happens to be running. With Chrome open atm I'm using 115ish, utorrent another 5, windows xp is chewing up maybe 50.
God knows what kind of ram the sony software suite that thing almost definitly holds is chewing up. EvE itself tends to hovor around 800ish just sitting in space, doesn't leave a lot of room for anything else. His page file is almost certainly being heavily used.
oh please stop, if you really think this is the problem, then suggest that the OP deal with it accordingly. Trying to prove that you may be right is not helping anyone.
I already made a suggestion to fix the problem. Stop trying to load eve on a 6 year old system that just barely pinches out the minimum required spec to start the program and upgrade.
It's plain to see that his system is woefully under powered and unable to even start eve.
I'd further postulate that minimum specs listed for EvE are a load of wishful thinking at best. Those specs look more like, if you have a freshly formatted comp, with just cleaned fans and heat sinks, with nothing but win xp and eve installed, you might get it booted up to the title screen. -Might-.
**** and moan about fixing his drivers all you want, it won't do a damn thing. Drivers are not going to add at least a gig of ram to his system, nor upgrade his GPU. Which are the reasons for failure here.
You can't expect to run a game with a graphics engine released in 2009 to run on such a poor notebook, from 2005. You'd likely be better off trying to run EvE on an iphone.
stupid troll is stupid troll
and yet again Akita proves to be genuinly smart person
i just reinstalled everything and just so happens i had a "Incursion" eve offline installer. so as matter of fact with 2005 distributive of drivers from sony eve "incursions" runs, but once you dl pacth for CQ the problem turns up :/
my take would be that devs fu*ked something up :/ ... in CQ patch
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LittleTerror
MAFIA
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Posted - 2011.07.30 19:29:00 -
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Originally by: K'uata Sayus
Methinks your video card just isn't powerful enough to enable you to go Nex shopping.
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Pyth2
Tower of Ravens
The Laughing Men
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Posted - 2011.07.30 19:35:00 -
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Oh wow imagine that. The advent of CQ prevent game from running on his hardware! Geez where has'stupid troll' heard that before? Ohhh, maybe his first post in the thread.
If you have the most updated drivers for that card, then I do believe you're **** out of luck, since they haven't updated the driver for the card in about 2 years. Wouldn't hold my breath on it getting fixed. Again, just upgrade your dog turd of a notebook.
Jesus 40$ should be able to find you something more capable then that.
Baring that, if you insist on listening to a bunch of window lickers who haven't offered one scrap of advice other then 'OMG UPDATE DRIV3RS LOL' without even bother to check if new drivers had been released in the last 2 years, then maybe try Omega drivers. Don't know if they supported that card at all, but if you insist on following the route of folly, try that.
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MataHarry
Imperial Shipment
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Posted - 2011.07.30 19:42:00 -
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Originally by: Pyth2
Oh wow imagine that. The advent of CQ prevent game from running on his hardware! Geez where has'stupid troll' heard that before? Ohhh, maybe his first post in the thread.
If you have the most updated drivers for that card, then I do believe you're **** out of luck, since they haven't updated the driver for the card in about 2 years. Wouldn't hold my breath on it getting fixed. Again, just upgrade your dog turd of a notebook.
Jesus 40$ should be able to find you something more capable then that.
Baring that, if you insist on listening to a bunch of window lickers who haven't offered one scrap of advice other then 'OMG UPDATE DRIV3RS LOL' without even bother to check if new drivers had been released in the last 2 years, then maybe try Omega drivers. Don't know if they supported that card at all, but if you insist on following the route of folly, try that.
like dude at least Akita was ADAMANTLY correct in his assesment of my system capabilities in terms being able to run the client. If machine can run incursions client it must run CQ client as well. There were complains before that something was seriously fuked up in CQ code in terms of graphic cards. That could be it. Of course I d love to have a solution here but as an experienced user I fear that there is none. The machine is perfectly fine, it meets the reqruirement and should run the client just fine as highlighted by the fact that it runs incursions client, so it CQ code.
Devs, if anyone is reading this - CQ is SHI-T work in terms of coding graphic cards.
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pyth3
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Posted - 2011.07.30 19:47:00 -
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Edited by: pyth3 on 30/07/2011 19:47:54
I agree, CQ is **** and breaks all sorts of crap. It wrecked comps a lot more capable then yours. It's some of the most poorly optimised crap ever released. That's why I fingered it as being the main problem in trying to run the game with an ancient notebook sporting ancient hardware.
Sorry about your luck, didn't want to seem to be trolling you. Just happens to be that the genuine solution here is to upgrade a bit. That or wait for CCP to fix something. We all know what kind of option that is though, and I def wouldn't be counting on them to fix the game to run on hardware Nvidia itself no longer supports.
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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2011.07.30 22:11:00 -
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Edited by: Akita T on 30/07/2011 22:17:15
Originally by: pyth3
Just happens to be that the genuine solution here is to upgrade a bit.
Good luck upgrading a laptop cheaply (or at all).
Even if he would add 1 more GB of RAM (which should be possible, unlike upgrading the graphics card which is bordering on hopeless), his laptop for some reason will almost certainly still not run the EVE client even if it should be able to run now already.
Other than the addition of the CQ assets and the "carbon UI" which would lead to a lower FPS when CQ is loaded, an early Incursions client should have the same system requirements as an Incarna client.
P.S. Just to be clear, OP - you don't actually get to see anything, not even the login screen ? Does the splash screen even display ?
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SirSpectre
Gallente
Harbingers Of Destruction
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Posted - 2011.07.30 23:16:00 -
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One thing that I haven't heard anyone ask for is the STOP: error code. Give that and I can look into it. Its usually like 0x00......
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MataHarry
Imperial Shipment
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Posted - 2011.07.31 07:52:00 -
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i recall there was a way to prevent machine from rebooting in BSOD
how can i do it ? to actually see whats the code
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Jadzia Usoo
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Posted - 2011.07.31 08:40:00 -
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I too have this problem with BSOD when running the 'Incarna' expansion. My old machine was a Sony Laptop circa 2006 with Nividia 7600GO graphics card. Used to run the 'flying in space' no problem, with settings on low. But since CQ blue screens every time i run it. Basically the graphics drivers are out of date and Sony no longer supports this spec of laptop.
Solution - have bought new laptop.
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The Offerer
Minmatar
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Posted - 2011.07.31 09:56:00 -
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Edited by: The Offerer on 31/07/2011 09:57:43
As an nVidia "dinosaur" user (ASUS 7300 GT here), I can only say that from my experience it's always better to use the drivers directly from the source - especially in nVidia's case.
Can't give any other advice, because honestly I don't know how to fix your problem.
As far as performance goes, EVE runs fine on 7300GT, but with 2GB of RAM (desktop machine in my case). You can't use CQ feature, but it's just one room anyway. And since I've recently switched from XP to Windows 7, I can say that I've noticed a slight boost of performance (and stability) compared to the older system. |
Rasz Lin
Caldari
Uitraan Diversified Holdings Incorporated
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Posted - 2011.07.31 11:19:00 -
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lol, another noob trying to play games on a laptop
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Nite Piper
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Posted - 2011.07.31 13:36:00 -
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No 1: You're using a laptop. Laptops have very poor ergonomics for regular work or play. In terms of price/performance they're also 3 to 4 times more expensive than a desktop would be, had one assembled a corresponding piece of junk. In real terms though, laptops are typically between 1/3 to 1/400 of the performance of a decent desktop. A final side issue is that laptops tend to develop issues eventually when you run them at sustained heavy load, i.e. overheating and battery woes.
No 2: Since it is a laptop, the graphics aren't really GF7400. It's some rubbish, mere shadow of the real GF7400, which is only labeled GF7400go in order to have it perceived as something better that it is by association with similarily named desktop parts. This is routine practice for laptop parts.
No 3: Even the real GF7400 would have been rather old by now. The first digit of the number gives the generation. Since "7", nVidia has been through "8", "9" for four digit generations, and "2" and "4" for three-digit generations.
No 4: The second digit of the designation number is a "4", GF 7400. The second digit designates the performance segment the part was originally aimed for. And for nVidias old four-digit numbers, just like AMD's four-digit numbers, a "4" denotes performance too low to be suitable for gaming. Gaming graphics start at "6" for four digit numbers. For a fullfledged gaming card the digit would typically be "8".
Even when it was new, even the fullsize desktop GF7400 graphics weren't intended for gaming.
(currently, nVidia uses new three-digit numbers. The important digit that gives the class of graphics is still the second. But it's been shifted down somewhat, so a 6 or 7 corresponds to fullfledged gaming card. i.e. corresponds to the old "8".)
At least you didn't buy a laptop with Intel graphics. That's something, I guess.
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Blindmellonchitlan
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Posted - 2011.07.31 14:40:00 -
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This is a classic example of the comps used by alot of players in eve before Incarna and thats why they was so ****ed when it came out. Bottom line upgrade dont be a cheepskate jesus a comp that will run eve at acceptable lvls or even a upgrade if possible for some your only talking a few hundred bucks. And if your not sure what you can run with that old dinasour then check it out Here.
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SirSpectre
Gallente
Harbingers Of Destruction
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Posted - 2011.08.01 16:26:00 -
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Right Click on my computer > properties > advanced > start up and recovery. Remove reboot on BSOD. Then cause BSOD.
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MataHarry
Imperial Shipment
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Posted - 2011.08.02 18:56:00 -
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well funny story everyone
i managed to get it up and running
i installed windows 7 andit works fine
slow as shi-t , but works
so i guess it was a combination of ****-y code on both side - ccp and microsoft :)
just enough to change skills so works fine :)
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