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Sphit Ker
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2011.08.03 08:23:00 -
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425mm is roughly 16.75 inches. Here, depict a real 16 inch naval shell:
http://www.combatreform.org/16inchbattleshipshell.jpg
In EVE, 425s are pretty much machine guns. We're spitting these monsters by the dozen like they are peas.
We're insane! 
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Magnus Veyr
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Posted - 2011.08.03 08:30:00 -
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base rate of fire on the 425 is about 10 per minute. Not exactly a machine gun.
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Stitcher
Caldari
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Posted - 2011.08.03 08:34:00 -
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Edited by: Stitcher on 03/08/2011 08:34:49
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schwerer_Gustav
^ Is the largest gun ever actually fired at war, surpassed in caliber only by the French 'Monster Mortar' (975mm) and the American 'Little David' (910 mm), which were both never fired.
In EVE terms, the largest guns ever built by the human race are a bit bigger than Medium guns. meanwhile, my Jaguar is running around with three twinned sets of 280mm Nuclear Artillery bolted on.
you're damn right our guns are insane.
 Originally by: Magnus Veyr
base rate of fire on the 425 is about 10 per minute. Not exactly a machine gun.
Dude, each shot is a two-second burst firing something like three dozen rounds. The rest is cooldown.
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Tippia
Caldari
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2011.08.03 08:35:00 -
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àyeah, but then again, it's mounted to something like this, and that size is considered fairly small and nippy.
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Hecatonis
Amarr
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Posted - 2011.08.03 08:42:00 -
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you know eve scales over the top right? have to seen the size of these ships we fly?
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the size is nuts, therefore the guns are nuts
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Sphit Ker
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2011.08.03 08:54:00 -
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Edited by: Sphit Ker on 03/08/2011 08:54:41
Originally by: Hecatonis
you know eve scales over the top right? have to seen the size of these ships we fly?
Linkage
the size is nuts, therefore the guns are nuts
nice. I prefer this simple image, tho.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/aehric/3866285507/
It's not just our guns. It's the speed we reach, too. That dramiel on a 2km orbit at 3,500 m/s is soaking over 500 Gs.
This is hilarious. With a bit of luck, CCP will get around properly conveying such scales and massive performances.
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Iggy Stooge
Gallente
Federal Navy Academy
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Posted - 2011.08.03 09:00:00 -
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Edited by: Iggy Stooge on 03/08/2011 09:01:01
Derp
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Stitcher
Caldari
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Posted - 2011.08.03 09:02:00 -
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Edited by: Stitcher on 03/08/2011 09:05:11
Edited by: Stitcher on 03/08/2011 09:03:46
Originally by: Iggy Stooge
derp
yes you did. don't worry, your secret's safe with me. Though it was an impressive fail.
relevant to topic: LINKAGE
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Ciar Meara
Amarr
Virtus Vindice
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Posted - 2011.08.03 09:25:00 -
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Originally by: Hecatonis
you know eve scales over the top right? have to seen the size of these ships we fly?
Linkage
the size is nuts, therefore the guns are nuts
A pitty that for the moment incarna/CQ has not been able to convey the shipsizes to us like they did at their first version like this
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Anya Ohaya
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Posted - 2011.08.03 09:27:00 -
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The ships are big too; the largest combat ship on Earth (The USS Enterprise) is 342 meters long, smaller than a Dominix.
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WeirdCulture
Gallente
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Posted - 2011.08.03 10:15:00 -
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Originally by: Sphit Ker
425mm is roughly 16.75 inches. Here, depict a real 16 inch naval shell:
http://www.combatreform.org/16inchbattleshipshell.jpg
In EVE, 425s are pretty much machine guns. We're spitting these monsters by the dozen like they are peas.
We're insane!
425mm how sweet...
Quad 3500mm Siege Artillery
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Xercodo
Amarr
Xovoni Directorate
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Posted - 2011.08.03 10:16:00 -
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Edited by: Xercodo on 03/08/2011 10:16:46
I fire 4 of these from my vargur every 3.5 seconds :P
(yes the shell from the Schwerer Gustav linked above)
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Cpt Greagor
Caldari
Liquid Relief
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Posted - 2011.08.03 10:24:00 -
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Originally by: WeirdCulture
425mm how sweet...
Quad 3500mm Siege Artillery
This is a very rough idea of what 3500mm is, this might be a little on the small side.
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dexington
Caldari
Baconoration
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Posted - 2011.08.03 10:40:00 -
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Originally by: Sphit Ker
425mm is roughly 16.75 inches. Here, depict a real 16 inch naval shell:
http://www.combatreform.org/16inchbattleshipshell.jpg
In EVE, 425s are pretty much machine guns. We're spitting these monsters by the dozen like they are peas.
We're insane!
That's what we use in railguns :)
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Cpt Greagor
Caldari
Liquid Relief
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Posted - 2011.08.03 10:58:00 -
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Originally by: dexington
That's what we use in railguns :)
Railguns. Lol. 
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Ineka
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Posted - 2011.08.03 11:04:00 -
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Originally by: Cpt Greagor
Railguns. Lol.
This 
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Tsukimaru
Amarr
Stargate SG-1
Fatal Ascension
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Posted - 2011.08.03 12:45:00 -
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I think they should let people doomsday planets.
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Pok Nibin
Amarr
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Posted - 2011.08.03 12:58:00 -
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Heh heh heh...a gun's only as good as the gun being fired at you.
Please wait as this sig-
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M'ktakh
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Posted - 2011.08.03 13:36:00 -
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Edited by: M''ktakh on 03/08/2011 13:36:08
And now, imagine how frigging huge the stations are.
Or how much you actually mine when you reduce asteroids to dust.
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Culmen
Caldari
Vigrior
The Dominion Empire
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Posted - 2011.08.03 13:42:00 -
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Edited by: Culmen on 03/08/2011 13:45:23
That's nothing.
Here's a real life 280mm Howitzer firing Nuclear S!
Wiki link
Now remember that the smallest craft we can pilot can fire this thing every few seconds.
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Jekyl Eraser
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Posted - 2011.08.03 14:07:00 -
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sorry to disapoint you, EMP L is only 0.025 cubic meters. The size of your thumb...
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Tippia
Caldari
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2011.08.03 14:09:00 -
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Originally by: Jekyl Eraser
sorry to disapoint you, EMP L is only 0.025 cubic meters. The size of your thumb...
You have very wierd thumbsà
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Viktor Fyretracker
Caldari
Emminent Terraforming
O.G.-Alliance
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Posted - 2011.08.03 14:21:00 -
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Originally by: Cpt Greagor
Originally by: WeirdCulture
425mm how sweet...
Quad 3500mm Siege Artillery
This is a very rough idea of what 3500mm is, this might be a little on the small side.
3500mm is 11ft based on Google calculator. or in other words you are shooting shells just shy of a Mack Truck in size as a truck is normally 13ft 4in clearance.
you also have to remember our ships are shielded and using high tech armors.... and the other fact that our smallest combat vessel(frigate) is roughly the size of a Boeing 747.
What is truly over the top is the power usage of some weapons. I doubt it takes more power than what a small town consumes in summer with all the homes cranking the AC to operate a cruise missile launcher.
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Tippia
Caldari
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2011.08.03 14:25:00 -
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Originally by: Viktor Fyretracker
What is truly over the top is the power usage of some weapons. I doubt it takes more power than what a small town consumes in summer with all the homes cranking the AC to operate a cruise missile launcher.
Life support systems for the the firing crew (+redundancy, +enough to cater for all four shifts)?
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ôWe want to try this thing called micro-transactions, but we don't know what it is. Can anyone explainà aw screw it, let's just do it! What could go wrong?ö
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dexington
Caldari
Baconoration
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Posted - 2011.08.03 14:28:00 -
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Originally by: Tippia
Life support systems for the the firing crew (+redundancy, +enough to cater for all four shifts)?
How many people are need to push the button?, with all the tech in the game have reloading, targeting, etc not been automated?
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Cpt Greagor
Caldari
Liquid Relief
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Posted - 2011.08.03 14:33:00 -
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Originally by: dexington
Originally by: Tippia
Life support systems for the the firing crew (+redundancy, +enough to cater for all four shifts)?
How many people are need to push the button?, with all the tech in the game have reloading, targeting, etc not been automated?
I assume reloading would be automated, with a maintenance crew that would fix any problems/manage changing ammo and whatnot.
Targeting though, I assume that there is a crew that manages that.
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Tippia
Caldari
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2011.08.03 14:33:00 -
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Edited by: Tippia on 03/08/2011 14:33:11
Originally by: dexington
How many people are need to push the button?, with all the tech in the game have reloading, targeting, etc not been automated?
400 (minus future lore explanations)?
àand a lot of it isn't automated.
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Viktor Fyretracker
Caldari
Emminent Terraforming
O.G.-Alliance
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Posted - 2011.08.03 14:40:00 -
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Originally by: Tippia
Originally by: Viktor Fyretracker
What is truly over the top is the power usage of some weapons. I doubt it takes more power than what a small town consumes in summer with all the homes cranking the AC to operate a cruise missile launcher.
Life support systems for the the firing crew (+redundancy, +enough to cater for all four shifts)?
maybe but I still doubt that needs multiple giggawatts of power.
of course this is where we have to allow ourselves to just say its a gameplay thing. if say a Citadel Cruise launcher didnt use 100,000Mw you would see them fitted to ravens for cheap siege boats.
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Uuali
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Posted - 2011.08.03 14:49:00 -
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Ahk, ahk, ahk! Check it at 4:57 says it all!
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McRoll
Minmatar
Heatseekers
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Posted - 2011.08.03 14:51:00 -
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And yet we cannot fire those weapons further than 250 km for the biggest long range guns. I wish CCP designed the game to simulate real ranges we could use those weapons with. Feels pretty ridiculous to fire a 1400mm artillery mounted on a spaceship at 50 km range. In space the projectile would travel infinite ranges limited only by the time it takes to reach the target and the maneuverability of the enemy ship to dodge it.
When you read some sci-fi novels the space ship combat feels way more immersive and credible than in eve- missiles being fired on hundreds of thousands of kilometers range, counter measures, ships maneuvring and firing energy weapon broadsides... when I think about how much better and more interesting the combat in this game might be if CCP forgot space barbies and console shooters... just makes me sad.
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