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Abriael VonRosen
Caldari
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Posted - 2011.08.08 18:37:00 -
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Edited by: Abriael VonRosen on 08/08/2011 18:40:34
 Originally by: Ghoest
On the other hand it offers NOTHING. Wondering around a tiny room is not content. The agent finder is nice but it has nothing to do with Incara(ie ambulation.)
You have a very restrictive definition of "content". Sorry to burst a bubble here, but walking around the tiny room is most definitely "content". Literally. Every single part of a game is "content". Whether *you* like it or not, that's another matter, but your enjoyment of something has no bearing on it being content or not.
I enjoy it, especially the holovid, others enjoy it, so quite obviously the CQs are content and they offer something. Whether they offer something that *you* enjoy is irrelevant.
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So if you are saying INCANA actually provides value you are either trolling us or you are a CCP plant.
Or I'm just another player that has a different point of view than yours, and enjoys the little thing even if the big ones will only come in the future. Thing that makes you rage because quite obviously NO ONE should have a different point of view than yours, right?
Try countering an argument, not the one that posts it. If you can't, shaddap :D
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Magnus Veyr
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Posted - 2011.08.08 18:40:00 -
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OP is kinda on to something. Ran into one a while back who only posted in specific threads, and all of his posts ALL were pro DUST/incarna, while having this massive knowledge on DUST as well. He didn't post in other threads at all, ever.
Not at all obvious.
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Abriael VonRosen
Caldari
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Posted - 2011.08.08 18:46:00 -
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Edited by: Abriael VonRosen on 08/08/2011 18:47:33
Originally by: Magnus Veyr
OP is kinda on to something. Ran into one a while back who only posted in specific threads, and all of his posts ALL were pro DUST/incarna, while having this massive knowledge on DUST as well. He didn't post in other threads at all, ever.
Not at all obvious.
I ran into a lot of people that only post into rant threads, bashing this game. Wonder who they work for?
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Valei Khurelem
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Posted - 2011.08.08 18:58:00 -
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Originally by: Abriael VonRosen
Edited by: Abriael VonRosen on 08/08/2011 18:47:33
Originally by: Magnus Veyr
OP is kinda on to something. Ran into one a while back who only posted in specific threads, and all of his posts ALL were pro DUST/incarna, while having this massive knowledge on DUST as well. He didn't post in other threads at all, ever.
Not at all obvious.
I ran into a lot of people that only post into rant threads, bashing this game. Wonder who they work for?
Jeeze! I run into these people that only post to make smartass comments in defense of the very people who attack others for having legitimate complaints about EVE Online and CCP's work and business ethic!
I wonder who they work for?
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Selinate
Amarr
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Posted - 2011.08.08 19:00:00 -
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Originally by: Beat General
and perfect grammar/spelling?
All this proves is that an intelligent person is posting. Sorry that it's so foreign to you...
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Abriael VonRosen
Caldari
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Posted - 2011.08.08 19:01:00 -
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Originally by: Valei Khurelem
Jeeze! I run into these people that only post to make smartass comments in defense of the very people who attack others for having legitimate complaints about EVE Online and CCP's work and business ethic!
"legitimate" is quite generic. There are some legitimate complaints, and a whole lot of trolling and intentional fanning of flames around here. The very fact that people can't even accept that a normal player would disagree with them without being a "CCP alt" is a clear indication that the "legitimate complaints" are often quite weak.
if they weren't, the discussion would focus on the arguments, not on the profession of those that post them.
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Abriael
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Valei Khurelem
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Posted - 2011.08.08 19:02:00 -
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To stay on topic, it is very interesting to find that there are a lot more CCP devs and GM's posting than when the recent rage over the changes to EVE happened. The same can be said for how there are suddenly a bunch of people jumping up and down in defense of them whenever someone has something to say about the game.
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Abriael VonRosen
Caldari
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Posted - 2011.08.08 19:04:00 -
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Originally by: Valei Khurelem
To stay on topic, it is very interesting to find that there are a lot more CCP devs and GM's posting than when the recent rage over the changes to EVE happened. The same can be said for how there are suddenly a bunch of people jumping up and down in defense of them whenever someone has something to say about the game.
Or a bunch of people jumping up and down to personally attack anyone that has something positive to say about the game.
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Abriael
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Hirana Yoshida
Behavioral Affront
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Posted - 2011.08.08 19:07:00 -
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Thank you for your custom!
Stocks are crashing all over the place, except for my precious Tinfoil stock ..
Thank you!
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Magnus Veyr
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Posted - 2011.08.08 19:07:00 -
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Originally by: Abriael VonRosen
Edited by: Abriael VonRosen on 08/08/2011 18:47:33
Originally by: Magnus Veyr
OP is kinda on to something. Ran into one a while back who only posted in specific threads, and all of his posts ALL were pro DUST/incarna, while having this massive knowledge on DUST as well. He didn't post in other threads at all, ever.
Not at all obvious.
I ran into a lot of people that only post into rant threads, bashing this game. Wonder who they work for?
Funny thing, you're the one I was talking about. But me I post in all kinds of threads; newbie forum, ships&modules and all that. You on the other hand... don't. All you post on is pro DUST and incarna threads, funny thing is that that ship loss you had shows you have exactly zero understanding of the game. So we can conclude that your opinion doesn't count for much.
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Karl Planck
Labyrinth Obtaining Chaotic Kangaroos
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Posted - 2011.08.08 19:10:00 -
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Edited by: Karl Planck on 08/08/2011 19:10:06
lol Abriael VonRosen, I am beginning to love your posts as much as I love Mr. Epeens. Keep em up!
Edit, herp a derp can't spell
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BehindDOORNEXWhore
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Posted - 2011.08.08 19:16:00 -
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It is quite easy to "out" the dev/gm alts,
Simply apply logic that subscriptions paid to CCP for an Internet SPACESHIP game is being used to fund other developments that have fail written all over them, whilst that same hard earnt money that you give for the game you pay for is basically left for....oh errrr... DUST!
...also the silence from Messier Hilmar and Co, is deafening.
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Abriael VonRosen
Caldari
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Posted - 2011.08.08 19:17:00 -
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Originally by: Magnus Veyr
Funny thing, you're the one I was talking about. But me I post in all kinds of threads; newbie forum, ships&modules and all that. You on the other hand... don't. All you post on is pro DUST and incarna threads, funny thing is that that ship loss you had shows you have exactly zero understanding of the game. So we can conclude that your opinion doesn't count for much.
Sorry to burst a big bubble there, but as another player of this game, my opinion counts exactly as much as yours.
Aside from the fact that it's not for you to dictate where and how I post. I express my opinion on whatever I want.
Try countering my arguments instead of countering *me*. If you cannot, shut up and learn how to behave in a discussion.
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Valei Khurelem
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Posted - 2011.08.08 19:18:00 -
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Edited by: Valei Khurelem on 08/08/2011 19:18:42
Originally by: Abriael VonRosen
Originally by: Valei Khurelem
To stay on topic, it is very interesting to find that there are a lot more CCP devs and GM's posting than when the recent rage over the changes to EVE happened. The same can be said for how there are suddenly a bunch of people jumping up and down in defense of them whenever someone has something to say about the game.
Or a bunch of people jumping up and down to personally attack anyone that has something positive to say about the game.
I'm not personally attacking anyone, just being observant :)
inb4 snide response
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baltec1
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Posted - 2011.08.08 19:20:00 -
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Originally by: The Offerer
Please elaborate - how is The Door immersive?
There is a little box you can check which will let you into a whole new world of walking around and watching ponies on a massive telly while playing trading games in station. You should try it sometime.
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Abriael VonRosen
Caldari
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Posted - 2011.08.08 19:23:00 -
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Originally by: Valei Khurelem
I'm not personally attacking anyone, just being observant :)
Sorry, but observant and biased are two extremely differnt things. You're biased, not observant.
Besides, you might want to look in the mirror before accusing others of using snide remarks.
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BehindDOORNEXWhore
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Posted - 2011.08.08 19:25:00 -
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Originally by: Abriael VonRosen
Originally by: BehindDOORNEX*****
Simply apply logic that subscriptions paid to CCP for an Internet SPACESHIP game is being used to fund other developments that have fail written all over them, whilst that same hard earnt money that you give for the game you pay for is basically left for....oh errrr... DUST!
LOL. It's industry standard to reinvest proceeds from a game also in other games. If you don't like it, you might want to quit gaming altogether, because every single developer out there does it.
Bingo...A winner!
As someone who can thoroughly understand reinvestment, rule one is you never kill the golden goose income...oh wai.... 
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Valei Khurelem
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Posted - 2011.08.08 19:28:00 -
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Originally by: Abriael VonRosen
Originally by: Valei Khurelem
I'm not personally attacking anyone, just being observant :)
Sorry, but observant and biased are two extremely differnt things. You're biased, not observant.
Besides, you might want to look in the mirror before accusing others of using snide remarks.
I'm being sarcastic, not snide.
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Wild CCP'Alt
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Posted - 2011.08.08 19:29:00 -
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I love Incarna. Keep up the good work CCP! I hope you come out with more NEX items soon! They help me customize my character the way I want her to look
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Magnus Veyr
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Posted - 2011.08.08 19:30:00 -
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Originally by: Abriael VonRosen
Originally by: Magnus Veyr
Funny thing, you're the one I was talking about. But me I post in all kinds of threads; newbie forum, ships&modules and all that. You on the other hand... don't. All you post on is pro DUST and incarna threads, funny thing is that that ship loss you had shows you have exactly zero understanding of the game. So we can conclude that your opinion doesn't count for much.
Sorry to burst a big bubble there, but as another player of this game, my opinion counts exactly as much as yours.
Aside from the fact that it's not for you to dictate where and how I post. I express my opinion on whatever I want.
Try countering my arguments instead of countering *me*. If you cannot, shut up and learn how to behave in a discussion.
I behave just fine in a discussion. You seem to have this thing about otheras having to "countering arguments" when you present none.
Lets me present you with some arguments why your opinion on this game is completely invalid.
This is your "hello, I'm back, haven't played in years and and I need some help" thread. Nothing wrong with being new (again) ofcourse but that doesn't quite mesh well with your amazing stance and knowledge(?) you seem to have right now, or at least spout on the forums.
Here's your "I have no fricking clue on game mechanics whatsoever, someone please tell me how to stop being a newbie" thread. again, nothing wrong with being new but that is kinda weird being new but still posting with such fierceness and "knowledge", it's amazing.
The rest of your posts, every single one of them, is where you feverishly "defend" CCP, spouting this profound knowledge and asking, nay yelling, at people to "counter your points", while just messing up threads. It's hilarious really and it achieves the opposite of what you're trying to do; it ****es people off MORE.
So, my point for you to counter is that your knowledge on EVE is severely limited (given you posts asking for help), could you come up with any different explanation for the threads I linked, other than "poster isn't very knowledgeable on EVE"?
Then I make my point, for you to counter, that people who lack a basic understanding of things probably shouldn't have too much of an opinion on them. Like, if you have to be told how NPC aggression works you're probably not qualified enough to tell others how fantastic is all is and that anyone disagreeing must therefore be wrong.
Mind you, I'm using verifiable facts here, and logic. Please counter both of them.
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Digital Messiah
Gallente
Oregami Ultd
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Posted - 2011.08.08 19:32:00 -
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Originally by: UigiXlII
Originally by: Digital Messiah
The population hasn't dropped in thousands. And even if CCP had some how lost more players than they are gaining through the buddy system. EVE has been "dieing" for years. It should and by all probable scenarios will stay a float for many more years.
You're barely 2 months old. 0.0 Sec status. In a 2 man corp. How are we supposed to acknowledge you, if you are basically new to EvE? Have guts and post with your main toon, then maybe we will hear you out. Unless of course this is your main account and you barely have 2 months eve experience. Which for you entitles your opinion more punch than the vets of EvE.
Your right, this character is two months old. I sold my 06 character and started a new. As he was very messy and had skills all over the place. If you don't like my opinions or agree with them so be it. But their merit hardly holds sway because of your extremely basic assumptions.
As for the space in 0.0 that has become open for various reasons. It will eventually become reoccupied by a small alliance or fought over between two larger ones. There is also the issue of whether or not your statement about CCP ruining the game can be taken as valid.
1. If a large group of individuals say something. It can easily persuade other individuals to their cause and side. N.azi's shooting babies wasn't a one step speech either.
2. Although this expansion has more complaints than most others. It does not mean everything is lost and woe to the universe. Nothing has changed besides when you dock in stations and look at your avatar. Apparently that was 90% of "thousands" of players main game play that ruined their entire EVE experience.
3. Saying I am a CCP fanboi because I am not shooting at "easily respawnable" jita monuments, picking up my pitch fork, or quiting the game, over features that in no way effected my playing experience, is childish at best.
Sorry to hear you dislike this game and its developer so much. Perhaps it would be best if you added your name to the thread of I quits. Find something you like more with your time? Sitting on the forums trolling people and stating a widely over expressed opinion, is not changing anything.
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StarGlider7
Gallente
The Scope
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Posted - 2011.08.08 19:35:00 -
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Originally by: Wild CCP'Alt
I love Incarna. Keep up the good work CCP! I hope you come out with more NEX items soon! They help me customize my character the way I want her to look
Hilmar?
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Marwood Ford
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Posted - 2011.08.08 19:35:00 -
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And that's Godwin's! Out of the park!
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Lorimer
Burning Napalm
Northern Coalition.
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Posted - 2011.08.08 19:54:00 -
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Edited by: Lorimer on 08/08/2011 19:54:12
came to thread expecting ponies ... left disappointed :(
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Ranka Mei
Caldari
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Posted - 2011.08.08 20:10:00 -
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It's a pretty sad state of affairs when people who actually like Incarna are branded as CCP alts. And the grammar part was particularly amusing. It's like saying: "Ooh, they must be a learned person with a job, cuz they can spell." I mean, what does that statement say about yourself? It's a rather bizarre form of self-deprecating. Think about it.
God forbid someone, like yours truly, actually likes Incarna enough to want it always present: someone who thinks the SIMS are childish, but who loves the endlessly superior graphics of Incarna -- and in a space setting to boot. And not everyone has crappy hardware, you know.
N.B. Yup, people have called me a CCP alt too, LOL. Still waiting for that pay-check, CCP. :)
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Abriael VonRosen
Caldari
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Posted - 2011.08.08 20:11:00 -
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Edited by: Abriael VonRosen on 08/08/2011 20:11:36
Originally by: Magnus Veyr
I behave just fine in a discussion.
Really? given the impressive amounts of personal attacks you throw, you may want to rethink that.
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You seem to have this thing about otheras having to "countering arguments" when you present none.
Which is a poor excuse, doesn't really fly.
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lets me present you with some arguments why your opinion on this game is completely invalid.
Let me present you with the fact that the opinion of every player of this game is valid. Sory to burst a bug bubble, but not only veterans are entitled to an opinion on a game they play.
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This is your "hello, I'm back, haven't played in years and and I need some help" thread. Nothing wrong with being new (again) ofcourse but that doesn't quite mesh well with your amazing stance and knowledge(?) you seem to have right now, or at least spout on the forums.
Here's your "I have no fricking clue on game mechanics whatsoever, someone please tell me how to stop being a newbie" thread. again, nothing wrong with being new but that is kinda weird being new but still posting with such fierceness and "knowledge", it's amazing.
The rest of your posts, every single one of them, is where you feverishly "defend" CCP, spouting this profound knowledge and asking, nay yelling, at people to "counter your points", while just messing up threads. It's hilarious really and it achieves the opposite of what you're trying to do; it ****es people off MORE.
So, my point for you to counter is that your knowledge on EVE is severely limited (given you posts asking for help), could you come up with any different explanation for the threads I linked, other than "poster isn't very knowledgeable on EVE"?
Then I make my point, for you to counter, that people who lack a basic understanding of things probably shouldn't have too much of an opinion on them. Like, if you have to be told how NPC aggression works you're probably not qualified enough to tell others how fantastic is all is and that anyone disagreeing must therefore be wrong.
Mind you, I'm using verifiable facts here, and logic. Please counter both of them.
Easy peasy. You won't see me arguing on the best loadout for a drake, or on what kind of ammo are best for what kind of enemy, or on how to balance extractors in planetary interaction. I didn't play eve enough to go as deep in it's mechanics, and when I can't happen to find information on something I need, I ask those on the forums (how terrible of me, rite?)
On the other hand we aren't talking about game mechanics there. We're talking about the direction of the game and it's place in the industry, or whether we like or not some features, which is entirely different from specific mechanics.
For that I don't decidedly need to know the ins and out of aggression, or stuff like that. On the other hand, I know the industry very well (since I work as a journo), I like the direction the game is going plenty fine, and reading the forum (and the forums of many other MMORPGs, since i play multiple), is plenty enough to see that some people around here are going on a trolling spree, and to comment about that.
Please, do point out a post of mine in which I argue *mechanics* of the game, and not simply the direction of it or the industry, the first of which anyone can have (and is entitled to) an opinion about, the second is my area of expertise.
I discuss things I know something about or I have an opinion about. That's pretty much simple, I'd say.
Originally by: Ranka Mei
It's a pretty sad state of affairs when people who actually like Incarna are branded as CCP alts.
It sure is. At least in other games they simply call em fanboys.
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Soma Khan
Caldari
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Posted - 2011.08.08 20:19:00 -
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Originally by: Abriael VonRosen
no surprise finding this individual featuring so prominently in this thread. methinks he doth protest too much
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Abriael VonRosen
Caldari
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Posted - 2011.08.08 20:20:00 -
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Originally by: Soma Khan
Originally by: Abriael VonRosen
no surprise finding this individual featuring so prominently in this thread. methinks he doth protest too much
methinks you do too. Who do you work for?
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Abriael
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baltec1
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Posted - 2011.08.08 20:22:00 -
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Originally by: Lorimer
Edited by: Lorimer on 08/08/2011 19:54:12
came to thread expecting ponies ... left disappointed :(
I do my best but too many pony posts can be bad for ones posting rights.
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Soma Khan
Caldari
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Posted - 2011.08.08 20:26:00 -
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Originally by: Abriael VonRosen
Who do you work for?
adding paranoia to your malady mix. where will it stop
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