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Stitcher Caldari	Posted - 2011.08.14 00:59:00 - [1] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6mQWgBPR1-o Made this for EVE Is Real. I'm quite pleased with it, especially seeing as I have basically zero previous video editing experience. Please let me know what you think (gently!) Cheers. - - Verin "Stitcher" Hakatain.
Vice Admiral Spreadsheet Caldari	Posted - 2011.08.14 01:06:00 - [2] Philosophical! Nice choice of music, and it was well-timed, too
Fix Lag	Posted - 2011.08.14 01:06:00 - [3] Was that last part intentionally directed at CCP or was that just a complete coincidence? Once you get past the crappy mic quality in the beginning, the voicework seems like it fits right in in most spots. Bit soft in a few areas. Fix Lag!
Stitcher Caldari	Posted - 2011.08.14 01:11:00 - [4] Originally by: Fix Lag Was that last part intentionally directed at CCP or was that just a complete coincidence? I think that's more you projecting your feelings onto the video. - - Verin "Stitcher" Hakatain.
Jill Xelitras Xeltec services	Posted - 2011.08.14 01:11:00 - [5] Easily the best video I have seen in a while. Good Job
Fix Lag	Posted - 2011.08.14 01:13:00 - [6] Originally by: Stitcher Originally by: Fix Lag Was that last part intentionally directed at CCP or was that just a complete coincidence? I think that's more you projecting your feelings onto the video. Watch this and tell me it wasn't a clever and subtle jab at CCP's introduction of NeX goods. Fix Lag!
Valentina Valentia Caldari State War Academy	Posted - 2011.08.14 01:17:00 - [7] I find EVE to be quite upbeat!... Reality IS the Dystopia! EVE: 1. People talk and co-operate 2. Economy works 3. Currency is stable 4. Each person has a home, and some kind of employment or means of earning income. Reality: 1. People are isolated and never speak to eachother. 2. Economy is in a wreck. 3. Currency is a wreck. 4. Homelessness, Unemployment, etc... I sign on to EVE to avoid the dystopia that is presented to us daily on the "news" and by the "politicians" ______________ Effete Noir - a wonderful virtual cologne for the discerning Pod-Pilot - 4500 Aur - BUY.
Stitcher Caldari	Posted - 2011.08.14 01:20:00 - [8] Originally by: Fix Lag Watch this and tell me it wasn't a clever and subtle jab at CCP's introduction of NeX goods. Dude. I could load a movie into you and watch it against a wall, you're that good at projecting. I made the damn thing, I know what themes are and are not intentionally there. Among other things, I'm pro-NeX, so I'm definitely not going to have a jab at it. I'm more likely to have a jab at you for trying to turn everything you see into a discussion about the things that bug you. This is a video made for the joy of how pretty some of EVE's trailers are, for exploring the philosophy of the universe, and for love of the game and setting. nothing more. Stop trying to make it be about your crusade, because it isn't. tl;dr - STFU. - - Verin "Stitcher" Hakatain.
Niraia Seekers of a Silent Paradise	Posted - 2011.08.14 01:29:00 - [9] Good stuff, well done! I'll use this in my continued efforts to lure friends to EVE. - gallenteprime.com
Sir Substance Minmatar Suddenly Ninjas Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service	Posted - 2011.08.14 01:33:00 - [10] Originally by: Stitcher Dude. I could load a movie into you and watch it against a wall, you're that good at projecting. I made the damn thing, I know what themes are and are not intentionally there. Welcome to being an artist m'lad. You've made something sufficiently powerful and deep that it means different things to different people. I don't see a jab at CCP's NeX, because I don't see NeX as an attempt at a utopia, but I do see a declaration of steadfastness against anything that is not new and vibrant, so I see a jab at their refusal to redo faction warfare etc. Anyway, its a bloody good video, and I think the mic muffling adds to the effect. The voice acting falls down mainly when too much of your own accent comes through, but its only jarring in one or two places, which is very impressive for a first go at voice acting. Bookmarked!

Graelyn Amarr Adamant Edge	Posted - 2011.08.14 01:42:00 - [11] That's the best vid I've seen in months. Seriously, great work. ----------------
Stitcher Caldari	Posted - 2011.08.14 02:27:00 - [12] Originally by: Graelyn That's the best vid I've seen in months. Seriously, great work. Thanks Grae! - - Verin "Stitcher" Hakatain.
Mara Rinn	Posted - 2011.08.14 02:57:00 - [13] Originally by: Fix Lag Watch this and tell me it wasn't a clever and subtle jab at CCP's introduction of NeX goods. You linked to the longest portion of the video with no voiceover, which is footage straight from the "Future Vision" video. I'm sure you think there's a point in there somewhere, care to elucidate? As for Stitcher, thank you for an awesome production! Echoing the opinions of Jean-Baptiste Emmanuel Zorg is not a bad thing :) [ Australian players join channel ANZAC ]
HydrAshtaroth	Posted - 2011.08.14 02:58:00 - [14] Phenomenal work Stitcher.
Digital Messiah Gallente Oregami Ultd	Posted - 2011.08.14 03:26:00 - [15] Originally by: Stitcher Originally by: Fix Lag Watch this and tell me it wasn't a clever and subtle jab at CCP's introduction of NeX goods. Dude. I could load a movie into you and watch it against a wall, you're that good at projecting. I made the damn thing, I know what themes are and are not intentionally there. Among other things, I'm pro-NeX, so I'm definitely not going to have a jab at it. I'm more likely to have a jab at you for trying to turn everything you see into a discussion about the things that bug you. This is a video made for the joy of how pretty some of EVE's trailers are, for exploring the philosophy of the universe, and for love of the game and setting. nothing more. Stop trying to make it be about your crusade, because it isn't. tl;dr - STFU. Don't get to worked up over it. You can say one thing and someone will try and say, you said another, on these forums, all day. Quote: "Frankly, my dear, I don't give a damn"
Postrem Inkunen	Posted - 2011.08.14 04:03:00 - [16] Hey, its actually good. Pleasantly surprised.
Ai Mei Starfish Operating Syndicate	Posted - 2011.08.14 06:20:00 - [17] Remember when we had hangers? remember when they looked cool? REmember the gallente pleasure hub? Remember when amarrian stations had chanting? THE PLAYERS DREAMS ARE GREATER THAN CCPS! +100 internets to op.
Pesky LaRue Brotherhood Of Fallen Angels Etherium Cartel	Posted - 2011.08.14 06:39:00 - [18] Originally by: Stitcher [screw] you for trying to turn everything you see into a discussion about the things that bug you. this Originally by: Stitcher tl;dr - STFU. and this. .
Marqo D'Maryn Octopus Rapid Shipping and Mercantile	Posted - 2011.08.14 07:15:00 - [19] Great work Stitcher. That's some pretty writing there. ----- Adepto Aurum Amoreque Abire

CCP Cascade	Posted - 2011.08.14 10:30:00 - [20] That was really well done! I think you were spot on with a lot of things in that video: Tempo of voice, music choice, video clips and the powerful and meaningful message. I hope you keep doing more videos like this!


Soren Verdell Gallente Federal Navy Academy	Posted - 2011.08.14 11:20:00 - [21] That was very well put together, I especially liked the narrative. Great job dude
Generals4 Caldari	Posted - 2011.08.14 11:22:00 - [22] Nice one, deserves a thumbs up.
Alex Sinai Mining And Probing Specialists	Posted - 2011.08.14 11:30:00 - [23] Very nice one. Ending leaves a feeling of a scene missin but overall this video is one of the best i have seen about EVE Online and very nice to include Dust 514 scenes in there. Artist deserve a standing ovations! Very creative and very nice. Thank you!
Stitcher Caldari	Posted - 2011.08.14 14:28:00 - [24] Originally by: CCP Cascade That was really well done! I think you were spot on with a lot of things in that video: Tempo of voice, music choice, video clips and the powerful and meaningful message. I hope you keep doing more videos like this! I think I will, as soon as I've invested in a better microphone. Thanks for the encouragement! - - Verin "Stitcher" Hakatain.
Infinite Force Amarr Hammer Of Light	Posted - 2011.08.14 15:04:00 - [25] Excellent! Thanks for sharing. Infinite HROLT CEO Live Free; Die Proud
Malcanis Caldari Vanishing Point. The Initiative.	Posted - 2011.08.14 15:09:00 - [26] Originally by: Stitcher http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6mQWgBPR1-o Made this for EVE Is Real. I'm quite pleased with it, especially seeing as I have basically zero previous video editing experience. Please let me know what you think (gently!) Cheers. Damb Stitcher, that's pretty pro. I like it. If I had a criticism, it would be that the subtitles feel out of place. The classic white text on black bar at the bottom would be best IMO. Malcanis' Law: Whenever a mechanics change is proposed on behalf of "new players", that change is always to the overwhelming advantage of richer, older players.
Myxx Atropos Group	Posted - 2011.08.14 15:31:00 - [27] Stitcher: the new loxyrider. I like the video. -- Originally by: CCP Explorer (and if you guys would also stop using Drakes it would be really appreciated, kthxbye). Originally by: Tom Gerard Then again... I am a moron.
Renan Ruivo Hipernova Vera Cruz Alliance	Posted - 2011.08.14 16:06:00 - [28] I went to the trouble and cumbersomeness of logging in the forum to say: Great work =) ____________ Originally by: CCP Guard Nobody gets to ruin EVE but us!
Phoehnix Ancient Laboratories	Posted - 2011.08.14 16:22:00 - [29] Incredibly awesome
James Duar Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation	Posted - 2011.08.14 16:23:00 - [30] This was actually really great. Even the microphone artifacting helped it, though the dynamics of the voice-over to the music need work.

YuuKnow	Posted - 2011.08.14 17:32:00 - [31] THIS should be the next big Eve online commercial. Awesome work. On a side note I love the last scene with the Battlecruiser docking in station. The real game should have this as an option (to see the ships docking).
Macmuelli Gallente Meltd0wn	Posted - 2011.08.14 17:57:00 - [32] Awesome, and very well done. U have great skills in doing this. eve since 2003 Do we need, Ice mining drones?
Eugene Spencer Rodents of Unusual Size	Posted - 2011.08.14 18:01:00 - [33] Very cool. Please do more! ===== I have a specific comb for my beard.
Razin The xDEATHx Squadron Legion of xXDEATHXx	Posted - 2011.08.14 18:20:00 - [34] Good work! I like the voiceover sound quality. The subtitles feel out of place though, perhaps a version without them could be made available?
Ara Soulbright	Posted - 2011.08.14 19:45:00 - [35] Nice work. Made me shiver. :)
SuHwak Eve Engineering Logistics Eve Engineering	Posted - 2011.08.14 20:09:00 - [36] I've never before shared anything on Facebook about EvE, but this I just had to share. "Very nice work" doesn't do it justice ---- Diplomacy: Telling someone to go to hell in such a way, that he looks forward to the trip.
Telvani Crouching Woman Hidden Cucumber	Posted - 2011.08.14 20:52:00 - [37] How is anyone saying this is good? Its just a load of CCP trailers with a (weak) voiceover and its in the wrong forum section, which it seems as long as your crap video ends up on EVE IS WOTwilightbeta.net doesn't matter anymore. My Eve is has been churning out good videos for years, CCP release some cheap advertising site and there are no extra good videos being made but hundreds of rubbish ones diluting them.
Stitcher Caldari	Posted - 2011.08.15 00:50:00 - [38] Edited by: Stitcher on 15/08/2011 00:55:11 Originally by: Telvani How is anyone saying this is good? Its just a load of CCP trailers with a (weak) voiceover and its in the wrong forum section, which it seems as long as your crap video ends up on EVE IS WOTwilightbeta.net doesn't matter anymore. My Eve is has been churning out good videos for years, CCP release some cheap advertising site and there are no extra good videos being made but hundreds of rubbish ones diluting them. You need to meditate or something. Put some soothing music on, take your shoes off, take deep breaths through the nose and out the mouth. All this angry tension's going to make you old before you time. Either that, or get laid. - - Verin "Stitcher" Hakatain.
Roll Up	Posted - 2011.08.15 01:15:00 - [39] great job 5 stars
Sin Meng Gallente Creative Assembly	Posted - 2011.08.15 01:52:00 - [40] Fantastic! Well edited and thought provoking. Honestly I thought the scratchy mic added to the narrative in a strange retro way. Hope you'll do more! --------------------------------------------------

DickbeardThePirate Gallente LODSOFEMONE	Posted - 2011.08.15 02:00:00 - [41] While this holds up for eve as a video game, this video does seem to be presented in-character. I doubt your character would take cloning so frivolously if he realized you don't actually get reborn, you just get copied. When a capsuleer dies, they don't wake up in a pod. They die, and someone else - an entirely separate consciousness who looks and thinks exactly like them - wakes up in a pod and continues their business. At least, this is what I've drawn from the "backstory" material on cloning. Humans are selfish, and I doubt anyone would ever find consolation in their own death just because they know someone else is going to be managing their crap after they die, not to mention all the ship crews and people without clones. Peaceful eve would make a **** video game, no doubt about it, but from what I would hesitate to call a "roleplay" perspective I can't imagine there is any sane character in the entire eve universe who doesn't want conflict to end so they can have largely risk-free lives. Want to add that I'm not a roleplayer of any description, just a media critic hobbyist, and your plot has holes.
Myxx Atropos Group	Posted - 2011.08.15 02:13:00 - [42] Originally by: **beardThePirate While this holds up for eve as a video game, this video does seem to be presented in-character. I doubt your character would take cloning so frivolously if he realized you don't actually get reborn, you just get copied. When a capsuleer dies, they don't wake up in a pod. They die, and someone else - an entirely separate consciousness who looks and thinks exactly like them - wakes up in a pod and continues their business. At least, this is what I've drawn from the "backstory" material on cloning. Humans are selfish, and I doubt anyone would ever find consolation in their own death just because they know someone else is going to be managing their crap after they die, not to mention all the ship crews and people without clones. Peaceful eve would make a video game, no doubt about it, but from what I would hesitate to call a "roleplay" perspective I can't imagine there is any sane character in the entire eve universe who doesn't want conflict to end so they can have largely risk-free lives. Want to add that I'm not a roleplayer of any description, just a media critic hobbyist, and your plot has holes. Infomorph psychology. There is a little bit more to it than you may realise at first... -- Originally by:** CCP Explorer (and if you guys would also stop using Drakes it would be really appreciated, kthxbye). Originally by: Tom Gerard Then again... I am a moron.
Kyoko Sakoda Caldari Veto. Veto Corp	Posted - 2011.08.15 03:11:00 - [43] Some damn good writing in that piece, mate! The montage was not bad, either.
Internet Knight The Kobayashi Maru	Posted - 2011.08.15 04:07:00 - [44] 1080p: youtube has it. So, live it. Learn it. Love it. ---
Stitcher Caldari	Posted - 2011.08.15 04:48:00 - [45] Quote: I'm not a roleplayer of any description... Clearly not. If you were, you'd know that it's not good roleplaying etiquette to dictate how you believe another player's character would behave. "I flap my arms and fly to the top of the wall." "You're a dwarf. that's physically impossible." is valid. "I accept the tavern wench's advances and let her lead me to my room with a bottle of the inn's finest mead." "Your character wouldn't do that!" is not. Originally by: **beardThePirate I doubt your character would take cloning so frivolously if he realized you don't actually get reborn, you just get copied. When a capsuleer dies, they don't wake up in a pod. They die, and someone else - an entirely separate consciousness who looks and thinks exactly like them - wakes up in a pod and continues their business. You're underestimating just how dramatically diverse people can be. Whether or not your interpretation is accurate, what's more important is how the character responds to it. The scientific reality that it is technically a very, very accurate copy with up-to-the-second memory of their life to date may not necessarily bother a person. The fact that their atoms were being violently disassembled, converted into energy and then accurately reassembled somewhere else never seemed to bother anybody in Star Trek whenever they used the transporter, for instance. It's only a problem if you make it a problem in your head. The character may believe that apparent continuity is as good as real continuity. He may not acknowledge the discontinuity at all. He may be religious, and believe that the soul survives such transmission, and that the clone is therefore still him. He might just be a pragmatic sort who would say "well, I still feel like the same guy, therefore I'm the same guy. Don't bother me with fiddly philosophy". He might even relish his own temporary destruction as a manifestation of the chaos and upheaval that his philosophy glorifies. Quote:** ...just a media critic hobbyist, and your plot has holes. A "plot hole" as I understand it is when there are absences in a narrative that fail to explain why the story took another, equally or more valid path. I don't see one here. The character's cavalier attitude to his own serial mortality is a personal quirk, not a failure of narrative logic. His speech is his opinion and his opinion, which is subjective, does not have to conform with your different, also subjective opinion. - - Verin "Stitcher" Hakatain.
Muent Dai	Posted - 2011.08.15 04:49:00 - [46] Great video, really well done.
YuuKnow	Posted - 2011.08.15 07:21:00 - [47] Edited by: YuuKnow on 15/08/2011 07:22:10 Originally by: CCP Cascade That was really well done! I think you were spot on with a lot of things in that video: Tempo of voice, music choice, video clips and the powerful and meaningful message. If offered any constructive criticism for future artistic development, I would say that in the latter half of the vid the pace of the narrative could have been slowed just a tad bit for more emphasis. For example phase, "stagnant... static...forever" could have been drawn out a bit more for dramatic effect. Also the line "Do you disagree with me... Good" could also had a slightly longer pause for dramatic effect as well. Not to say that the video isn't totally awesome nonetheless. I've watched it about 7 times just for the fun of watching it! This seriously needs to be a commercial and the creator given some sortof bonus for such good work.
Valentina Valentia Caldari State War Academy	Posted - 2011.08.15 07:49:00 - [48] SO... when is that game coming out? it looks great! Is there an open beta? what company is making that! I sure hope it is out by Christmas or before World War 3 starts and really ****s up the internet... ______________ Effete Noir - a wonderful virtual cologne for the discerning Pod-Pilot - 4500 Aur - BUY.
Ishtanchuk Fazmarai Amarr	Posted - 2011.08.15 10:07:00 - [49] Just one suggestion... don't change the voice acting. The poor microphone gives you a radio-like sound which is very appealing, whereas a better mike would end up filling your acting with all kind of ambient noise. Some titles look a bit off their way and of course you could use HD to your advantage but it's a good video and grasps what CCP intended to do when they cared about excellence.
Mara Rinn	Posted - 2011.08.15 12:38:00 - [50] Originally by: ***beardThePirate I doubt your character would take cloning so frivolously if he realized you don't actually get reborn, you just get copied. Did you know that in order to become a capsuleer you have to die? We don't care about that nonsense anymore - we're not who we were before our infomorph was implanted in a new body that happened to have all the appropriate implants in place. You surely didn't think they were surgically implanted? Quote:* At least, this is what I've drawn from the "backstory" material on cloning. Here's my attempt at explaining the process, presented in character as my escape from slavery. Quote: Want to add that I'm not a roleplayer of any description, just a media critic hobbyist, and your plot has holes. Perhaps you need to familiarise yourself with the context of the role-play world that you're commenting on before you comment. This isn't the real world. We're no deader after we get podded than we were before we were podded. We're no more alive when our consciousness is being burned into a new clone than we are when sitting down to tea with friends in that new clone body. As capsuleers, meat is a necessary crutch to our existence, not the definition of that existence. [ Australian players join channel ANZAC ]


CCP Prism X Gallente C C P C C P Alliance	Posted - 2011.08.15 12:54:00 - [51] Well that was awesome in all possible aspects. Totally sharing this with people now! I'm sure there are some areas that can be touched on but my amateur eyes and ears are certainly not picking up on it, so awesome first try! By the gods: Don't stop now! ~ CCP Prism X EVE Database Developer If anything in this post was informative or could be considered as 'good news' to you - chances are you've misread it.

Stitcher Caldari	Posted - 2011.08.15 13:37:00 - [52] criticism from this thread and the youtube comments taken on board, and I'm producing a version which has been tweaked to enhance the "radio" effect rather than the "bad mic" effect, and also adjusting the subtitles. Hope to have it up sometime this evening. - - Verin "Stitcher" Hakatain.
Stitcher Caldari	Posted - 2011.08.15 14:50:00 - [53] Edited by: Stitcher on 15/08/2011 14:51:56 Old video has been removed, and the new one is being uploaded... in glorious 1080p HD. The changes are subtle, but I think the result is an improved video. let me know what you think! ...once it's up, of course :D - - Verin "Stitcher" Hakatain.
Linda Shadowborn Gallente Dark Steel Industries	Posted - 2011.08.15 15:38:00 - [54] Originally by: Stitcher Edited by: Stitcher on 15/08/2011 14:51:56 Old video has been removed, and the new one is being uploaded... in glorious 1080p HD. The changes are subtle, but I think the result is an improved video. let me know what you think! ...once it's up, of course :D tapps foot waiting is it fixed yet is it fixed.. yet is it ..fixed.. yet
Jayem See Caldari Doing The Business	Posted - 2011.08.15 15:41:00 - [55] Very good work fella. Nothing but respect for the people that take the time to make vids like this. +1&2&3 Kudos Whatever - Not Interested TBH
Stitcher Caldari	Posted - 2011.08.15 15:53:00 - [56] Originally by: Linda Shadowborn tapps foot waiting is it fixed yet is it fixed.. yet is it ..fixed.. yet Upload timer estimates 110 minutes. slow internet is slow. - - Verin "Stitcher" Hakatain.
Linda Shadowborn Gallente Dark Steel Industries	Posted - 2011.08.15 15:58:00 - [57] Originally by: Stitcher Originally by: Linda Shadowborn tapps foot waiting is it fixed yet is it fixed.. yet is it ..fixed.. yet Upload timer estimates 110 minutes. slow internet is slow. Has it been 110 minutes yet? ducks and laughs Allright! Ill go back to work for another 2 hours then.. pouts meany
Stitcher Caldari	Posted - 2011.08.15 17:44:00 - [58] Linkage "Dystopian Heaven" v2.0 is now live on Youtube, in HD! - - Verin "Stitcher" Hakatain.
Linda Shadowborn Gallente Dark Steel Industries	Posted - 2011.08.15 17:54:00 - [59] Originally by: Stitcher Linkage "Dystopian Heaven" v2.0 is now live on Youtube, in HD! oo very nice :)
DeliciousHamBeast Caldari A.J.M	Posted - 2011.08.15 18:15:00 - [60] That was excellent! I thought the voice fit well, better than the usual 'stern british gentleman'.

Stitcher Caldari	Posted - 2011.08.15 21:04:00 - [61] Originally by: DeliciousHamBeast That was excellent! I thought the voice fit well, better than the usual 'stern british gentleman'. British yes, gentleman not technically but I like to think so, stern hell no. :D - - Verin "Stitcher" Hakatain.
Slade Trillgon Endless Possibilities Inc.	Posted - 2011.08.15 21:56:00 - [62] The video look really good and the speaking points were great. Well done Stitch! 07 Slade :Signature Temporarily Disabled:
DickbeardThePirate Gallente LODSOFEMONE	Posted - 2011.08.17 22:05:00 - [63] Originally by: Mara Rinn Originally by: ***beardThePirate I doubt your character would take cloning so frivolously if he realized you don't actually get reborn, you just get copied. Did you know that in order to become a capsuleer you have to die? We don't care about that nonsense anymore - we're not who we were before our infomorph was implanted in a new body that happened to have all the appropriate implants in place. You surely didn't think they were surgically implanted? Quote:* At least, this is what I've drawn from the "backstory" material on cloning. Here's my attempt at explaining the process, presented in character as my escape from slavery. Quote: Want to add that I'm not a roleplayer of any description, just a media critic hobbyist, and your plot has holes. Perhaps you need to familiarise yourself with the context of the role-play world that you're commenting on before you comment. This isn't the real world. We're no deader after we get podded than we were before we were podded. We're no more alive when our consciousness is being burned into a new clone than we are when sitting down to tea with friends in that new clone body. As capsuleers, meat is a necessary crutch to our existence, not the definition of that existence. I did attempt to look that up, under the "scientific articles" on this website it explains that the process of cloning is just a brain scan, same as any you would get here in real life, only due to needing to be finished in the second or so your pod is breached, the radiation is rather strong and kills you. This very detailed .jpg of what your brain should look like is sent to the cloning facility and recreated. There were only a few chapters under the subject, stuff on the history of the pod as created by the Jovians and the process of being adapted for regular human use. There is nothing to suggest that the next "you" is still "you" in any way, shape, or form. Jump clones can be explained as merely memory synchronisation between sets of you, and there's nothing to suggest that two jump clones couldn't be active at the same time, continuing their business with no knowledge that the other is awake. Of course, I'd be more then happy if someone linked me to something that does go into detail on these issues, also Stitcher you're right, I meant saying your character isn't believable as an opinion, not as an objective observation. Should have chosen my words more carefully.
Ender Black Lone Star Exploration	Posted - 2011.08.18 03:23:00 - [64] That was one of the smartest videos for new eden i've seen in quite awhile. Brilliant work, sir.
Stitcher Caldari	Posted - 2011.08.19 23:21:00 - [65] Major spike in views since the video was linked on Facebook. My phone spent the whole day notifying me of emails from people commenting on it. I have just one question, guys... ...do I get ISK for this? - - Verin "Stitcher" Hakatain.


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