Originally by: Feligast

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Originally by: Cearain

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And as everyone should know, nerfs can be relative. Battleships were nerfed when rigs became cheaper for every other ship. So by boosting null sec ccp is thereby effectively nerfing all other areas of space.

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And by buffing hisec over and over and over, nullsec has gotten the shaft for years now. What's your ****ing point?

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Originally by: Feligast

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Originally by: Ashley SchmidtVonGoldberg

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Judge Ment & Cearain
those were really good points.

most people i know who mission in highsec use pimped out boats that they would not dream of using in nullsec. As well as a lot of people on dual accounts who use highsec to fund there nullsec pvp actions. Highsec exists as it allows a more casual form of play that is absent from nullsec.

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sigh. Now see, if you'd just said in the OP that "casual" = "easy, no effort", then I would have stayed out of this thread.

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Originally by: Ranger 1

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Again I ask, what question in your OP are you seeking an answer to exactly?

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Originally by: Ranger 1

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My point is that by buffing null sec you are nerfing the other 3 areas of space. So even if not much changes in high sec, low sec, and wormholes, the value of taking part in those activities will decrease.

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How can I say this politely.... well... I really can't.

This is a crock.

If little or nothing changes in the other area's of space, then your activities there will continue to be just as profitable as they currently are.

The only things that will change is that there will be more incentive to go somewhere that you would rather not go, and your jealousy level towards people that do migrate there will increase.

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Originally by: Ranger 1

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Originally by: Ashley SchmidtVonGoldberg

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Originally by: Cearain

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Edited by: Cearain on 17/08/2011 21:53:47

Originally by: Ranger 1

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Again I ask, what question in your OP are you seeking an answer to exactly?

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The question is: Why does CCP keep trying to push null sec?

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right on the money mate. and its the only question thats been asked by the contributors to this thread

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Finally.

The answer, why would they not?

Null sec is one of the largest expanses of real estate in the game and has some of the most interactive potential of any area.

Why would they not want to incentivise it's use?
Why would they not want to improve resource distribution to encourage colonization and conflict?
Why would they not want to make the frontier of the game more attractive, alluring, dangerous, and fun?
Why would they not do this especially if they do not have to diminish other area's in the game to do so?

I have no problem with you not wanting to move there.
I do have a problem with you not wanting the game to be improved because it is nto directly to your benefit.

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Originally by: Nicolo da'Vicenza

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Edited by: Nicolo da''Vicenza on 17/08/2011 23:08:30
Edited by: Nicolo da''Vicenza on 17/08/2011 23:06:42

Originally by: Cearain

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Edited by: Cearain on 17/08/2011 21:53:47

Originally by: Ranger 1

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Again I ask, what question in your OP are you seeking an answer to exactly?

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The question is: Why does CCP keep trying to push null sec?

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Lot of reasons...

1) Nullsec players provide the majority of EVE's coveragee by gaming sites, coverage that CCP hope will turn into subs.

2) Nullsec players provide more content; stories, propaganda posters and videos, battle reports, etc. Content CCP is trying to harness as a marketing tool via sites like eveisreal.net and turn into subs.

3) Nullsec players provide consumption, the endless destruction of ships and capitals being the only real ISK sinks against the nonstop injection of new ISK into New Eden.

4) Player created content is the only real draw that EVE Online has over other MMOs, and 0.0 creates more of it then anywhere else. More players in 0.0, more player created content, hopefully more subs.

That's why.

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Originally by: Mendolus

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Originally by: Nicolo da'Vicenza

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Originally by: Cearain

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But here is the thing. Players soon realize that null sec is set up to create blob warfare and marketing for ccp. Although the blobs sound like fun when you start eve, over time you learn itÆs not that great. Yet ccp keeps pushing you to do it for their marketing.

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To be honest, EVE without large scale conflict is unbelievably boring imo. Two months into the game after some nub highsec experience I jumped into Providence while it was still NRDS and never looked back.

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Same, formed a corporation in early '08, in late '08 we moved to Providence to experience the rest of the game. We had seen all high security had to offer in time we already spent there. Now it is back, and we are back, and I adore the idea that Providence can once again be a gateway for newer players to come experience 0.0 and get their foot in the door so to speak. This is why I play the game, to be part of something I cannot do alone. There is little in high security that necessitates group activity that does not revolve around making money for the sake of money. And to be honest, once your wallet gets fat enough, the reasons to logon start to dwindle in high security space if you have nothing much else to do but ... make more money. I see a few people clamoring about how fun and amazing high sec wars are, and I wonder... I have seen countless high sec wars over the years, they have all been boring station games, fun? Not for me, let them come to 0.0 and fight us with no artificial limitations.

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