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Judge Ment BOOM BOOM POW	Posted - 2011.08.18 16:21:00 - [61] Im moving to Jita ------------------------------------- We judge others by actions We judge ourselves by intentions.
Mendolus Aurelius Federation Eternal Evocations	Posted - 2011.08.18 16:26:00 - [62] Originally by: Leeroy McJenkins Originally by: Mendolus You do not just jump into any random system in null and have a blob of a thousand capital ships bearing down on you, it has never been that way. The way things are going its pretty much headed in that direction Death to all super caps! LOL maybe, but those capitals can't be in every system every day, and there are only X capital pilots active in the game at any given time so... ...although I do have a Nyx pilot myself, just no Nyx,
Shepard Book	Posted - 2011.08.18 16:34:00 - [63] Originally by: Ashley SchmidtVonGoldberg The only time i leave highsec is to go to Gayar as it has the best nightlife in the galaxy. My avatar demands it. In highsec you can make isk with ease and engage in empire wars. Empire wars allow solo and small group pvp without blob fests or Nyx online. If it is the end game then there should be a natural progression to the game to get there which there isn't as this is a sandbox. Some people prefer different races, some people prefer different security ratings. if you force people into nullsec they might stop subbing. lastly, nullsec is not really for casual play. From what ive seen its for the more intense gamer. Those that have far more time and want to develop a strong social network with similar people. All views are welcome. Greyscale has already said he does not want to remove your lvl 4 isk producing machine from highsec. IMO lvl 4s in highsec was the worst part of exudus I think it was, but oh well. I do believe in the higher risk should give more rewards so hopefully all can agree with that with the changes coming. Maybe next year we can see improvements to lowsec too.
Zakua Corbin	Posted - 2011.08.18 16:36:00 - [64] CCP's turning off the isk faucets and truning on the gabarge disposal "ship eater". Fun to be had for all who take part
Leeroy McJenkins GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation	Posted - 2011.08.18 17:48:00 - [65] Why is simple, CCP needs more content for EVE is real Originally by: Leeroy McJenkins There is no real pvp in EVE, there is only winning or losing and then feeling :smug: about winning or sore about losing. There is nothing wrong with this arrangement.
Ghoest	Posted - 2011.08.18 18:08:00 - [66] The CSM has decreed that high sec is for second class people. Wherever you went - Here you are.
Mendolus Aurelius Federation Eternal Evocations	Posted - 2011.08.18 18:14:00 - [67] Originally by: Ghoest The CSM has decreed that high sec is for second class people. Burninate da peasantz! /breathes fire, shakes fist
Leeroy McJenkins GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation	Posted - 2011.08.18 18:38:00 - [68] Originally by: Mendolus Originally by: Ghoest The CSM has decreed that high sec is for second class people. Burninate da peasantz! /breathes fire, shakes fist Purchasing monocles protects one from high sec fires. Originally by: Leeroy McJenkins There is no real pvp in EVE, there is only winning or losing and then feeling :smug: about winning or sore about losing. There is nothing wrong with this arrangement.
Bootleg Jack Potters Field	Posted - 2011.08.18 18:52:00 - [69] Because Trammel... oh wait
Zyress	Posted - 2011.08.18 19:13:00 - [70] Originally by: Magnus Orin Originally by: Ashley SchmidtVonGoldberg lastly, nullsec is not really for casual play. You clearly have no experience in this game. I am a very casual player. I primarily only log in during the weekends, and often take 4-5 month breaks from this terrible game. 99.99% of my game time is spent in 0.0 I did that once and logged back on to find myself all alone in a station surrounded by Russians camping the station. Had to wait for a down time to login right after and make a run for it.
Zyress	Posted - 2011.08.18 19:17:00 - [71] Originally by: Cipher Jones Originally by: Feligast Originally by: Cearain And as everyone should know, nerfs can be relative. Battleships were nerfed when rigs became cheaper for every other ship. So by boosting null sec ccp is thereby effectively nerfing all other areas of space. And by buffing hisec over and over and over, nullsec has gotten the shaft for years now. What's your ****ing point? I've been here since 08/09 and the only thing that got buffed about hisec was the addition of incursions. Everything else has been nerfed. Umad. Don't even have to ask at this point. Actually Incursions occur in hi, lo and nullsec so that wasn't a hisec buff either. I've been playing about as long as you and I haven't seen any buffs that applied only to Hisec.
Zyress	Posted - 2011.08.18 19:28:00 - [72] Originally by: Ranger 1 Originally by: Ashley SchmidtVonGoldberg Originally by: Cearain Edited by: Cearain on 17/08/2011 21:53:47 Originally by: Ranger 1 Again I ask, what question in your OP are you seeking an answer to exactly? The question is: Why does CCP keep trying to push null sec? right on the money mate. and its the only question thats been asked by the contributors to this thread Finally. The answer, why would they not? Null sec is one of the largest expanses of real estate in the game and has some of the most interactive potential of any area. Why would they not want to incentivise it's use? Why would they not want to improve resource distribution to encourage colonization and conflict? Why would they not want to make the frontier of the game more attractive, alluring, dangerous, and fun? Why would they not do this especially if they do not have to diminish other area's in the game to do so? I have no problem with you not wanting to move there. I do have a problem with you not wanting the game to be improved because it is nto directly to your benefit. Ahhh and finally there is the rub of it. They ARE planning to diminish other areas. They are talking about removing icebelts from hisec and faction/deadspace loot from hisec anoms. I could careless if the lifers in 0.0 get some more isk making opportunities, but who uses those faction mods, pvpers or mission runners? I don't know too many people that pvp with faction or dead-space mods, and giving them sole supply of Ice will kill hisec POS's.
Mendolus Aurelius Federation Eternal Evocations	Posted - 2011.08.18 19:37:00 - [73] Edited by: Mendolus on 18/08/2011 19:37:42 Originally by: Zyress ... You do not seem to very objective. Also, I see faction and deadspace gear on PvP fits every other day in 0.0 wherever I have happened to live over the course of three years or so, always have and probably always will. Sure people aren't floating around willy nilly in 2-3BIL T3 PvP ships, but a faction mwd, scrambler, disruptor, guns, damage mods, etc. the occasional deadspace hardener, etc. all that stuff is a lot more common than you think.
Judge Ment BOOM BOOM POW	Posted - 2011.08.18 19:47:00 - [74] Originally by: Mendolus Edited by: Mendolus on 18/08/2011 19:37:42 Originally by: Zyress ... You do not seem to very objective. Also, I see faction and deadspace gear on PvP fits every other day in 0.0 wherever I have happened to live over the course of three years or so, always have and probably always will. Sure people aren't floating around willy nilly in 2-3BIL T3 PvP ships, but a faction mwd, scrambler, disruptor, guns, damage mods, etc. the occasional deadspace hardener, etc. all that stuff is a lot more common than you think. fyi: 0.0 care bearing isn't null sec by far. If you ask around i flown golem around Bob space for sometime before test alliance moved in there. I ran Noctis daily and laughed pretty much every day while doing sanctums! I lived in route were it was split in Y , while most of action was going shorter route to station. Only thing Nul sec is for is carrier jumping your crap in and out. and the only time you will see most people from 0.0 is about twice a month to buy plex lol ------------------------------------- We judge others by actions We judge ourselves by intentions.
Mendolus Aurelius Federation Eternal Evocations	Posted - 2011.08.18 19:51:00 - [75] Edited by: Mendolus on 18/08/2011 19:51:24 Originally by: Judge Ment Only thing Nul sec is for is carrier jumping your crap in and out. I'm curious, do you actually believe this? Like, if this were a university, and an exam question asked you if the only thing 0.0 was for was to move goods in and out with a carrier, you'd select the bubble that said 'Yes' and expect a good score?
Shartifartblast Minmatar In Praise Of Shadows	Posted - 2011.08.18 20:10:00 - [76] Originally by: Mendolus Edited by: Mendolus on 18/08/2011 19:51:24 Originally by: Judge Ment Only thing Nul sec is for is carrier jumping your crap in and out. I'm curious, do you actually believe this? Like, if this were a university, and an exam question asked you if the only thing 0.0 was for was to move goods in and out with a carrier, you'd select the bubble that said 'Yes' and expect a good score? Am I to assume your University qualification was gained on the basis of check boxes? That might explain the quality of your posting. ~~~
Mendolus Aurelius Federation Eternal Evocations	Posted - 2011.08.18 20:17:00 - [77] Originally by: Shartifartblast Originally by: Mendolus Edited by: Mendolus on 18/08/2011 19:51:24 Originally by: Judge Ment Only thing Nul sec is for is carrier jumping your crap in and out. I'm curious, do you actually believe this? Like, if this were a university, and an exam question asked you if the only thing 0.0 was for was to move goods in and out with a carrier, you'd select the bubble that said 'Yes' and expect a good score? Am I to assume your University qualification was gained on the basis of check boxes? That might explain the quality of your posting. Yes/No questions do not belong in the educational system?
Ikonz Coristati	Posted - 2011.08.18 21:54:00 - [78] Edited by: Ikonz on 18/08/2011 21:55:26 Edited by: Ikonz on 18/08/2011 21:54:21 it's probably motivated by a "lulz, look we support null sec so we're cool" mentality, than anything else. the same thing that causes them to integrate and side with certain nullsec alliances. alliance leaders are the alpha males, the leaders, and span the socially awkward devs in front of their bandwagon and make them feel cool, and the devs will of course give issues that affect those alliances, priority. and push features that benefit their alliances.
Nicolo da'Vicenza Amarr Divine Power. Atlas.	Posted - 2011.08.19 00:21:00 - [79] Originally by: Leeroy McJenkins Originally by: Nicolo da'Vicenza Most null corps will take anyone of any SP I heard that an ATLASdot pilot asked what a hotdrop was in your FATLAS intel channel. I didn't believe it until I read your post just now. owned by elite pvp alliance of Deklein, Goonswarm
Vulpina Elaphe Amarr	Posted - 2011.08.19 00:34:00 - [80] Edited by: Vulpina Elaphe on 19/08/2011 00:36:15 Originally by: Ashley SchmidtVonGoldberg The only time i leave highsec is to go to Gayar as it has the best nightlife in the galaxy. My avatar demands it. In highsec you can make isk with ease and engage in empire wars. Empire wars allow solo and small group pvp without blob fests or Nyx online. If it is the end game then there should be a natural progression to the game to get there which there isn't as this is a sandbox. Some people prefer different races, some people prefer different security ratings. if you force people into nullsec they might stop subbing. lastly, nullsec is not really for casual play. From what ive seen its for the more intense gamer. Those that have far more time and want to develop a strong social network with similar people. All views are welcome. No one is forcing you to go anywhere. You can stay in hisec if you want, but the proposed changes, if I am reading them right, will match more ISK with more risk, which makes sense. Vulpina

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