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Ranger 1
Amarr Imperial Shipment
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Posted - 2011.08.17 21:57:00 -
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Quote: My point is that by buffing null sec you are nerfing the other 3 areas of space. So even if not much changes in high sec, low sec, and wormholes, the value of taking part in those activities will decrease.
How can I say this politely.... well... I really can't.
This is a crock.
If little or nothing changes in the other area's of space, then your activities there will continue to be just as profitable as they currently are.
The only things that will change is that there will be more incentive to go somewhere that you would rather not go, and your jealousy level towards people that do migrate there will increase. ===== The world will not end in 2012, however there will be a serious nerf to Planetary Interaction. |
Ashley SchmidtVonGoldberg
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Posted - 2011.08.17 21:58:00 -
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Originally by: Cearain Edited by: Cearain on 17/08/2011 21:53:47
Originally by: Ranger 1 Again I ask, what question in your OP are you seeking an answer to exactly?
The question is: Why does CCP keep trying to push null sec?
right on the money mate. and its the only question thats been asked by the contributors to this thread
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Ranger 1
Amarr Imperial Shipment
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Posted - 2011.08.17 21:59:00 -
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Originally by: Ashley SchmidtVonGoldberg Edited by: Ashley SchmidtVonGoldberg on 17/08/2011 21:51:32
Originally by: Magnus Orin
Originally by: Ashley SchmidtVonGoldberg
lastly, nullsec is not really for casual play.
You clearly have no experience in this game.
I am a very casual player. I primarily only log in during the weekends, and often take 4-5 month breaks from this terrible game.
99.99% of my game time is spent in 0.0
Internet warrior detected and he is not alone. see above post for confirmation.
How many times are you going to evade my question?
What question is in your original post that you would like a quick answer to.
By the way, your failure to prioritize your personal time efficiently is neither my problem nor my concern.
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Ranger 1
Amarr Imperial Shipment
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Posted - 2011.08.17 22:05:00 -
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Originally by: Ashley SchmidtVonGoldberg
Originally by: Cearain Edited by: Cearain on 17/08/2011 21:53:47
Originally by: Ranger 1 Again I ask, what question in your OP are you seeking an answer to exactly?
The question is: Why does CCP keep trying to push null sec?
right on the money mate. and its the only question thats been asked by the contributors to this thread
Finally.
The answer, why would they not?
Null sec is one of the largest expanses of real estate in the game and has some of the most interactive potential of any area.
Why would they not want to incentivise it's use? Why would they not want to improve resource distribution to encourage colonization and conflict? Why would they not want to make the frontier of the game more attractive, alluring, dangerous, and fun? Why would they not do this especially if they do not have to diminish other area's in the game to do so?
I have no problem with you not wanting to move there. I do have a problem with you not wanting the game to be improved because it is nto directly to your benefit.
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Emperor Cheney
Celebrity Sex Tape
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Posted - 2011.08.17 22:05:00 -
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Originally by: Ryhss
]I fully agree. Hi secs not being removed, but nerfed to hell so you can make no money.
Yeah, the real isk always was in highsec ice mining.
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Celestia Vespidae
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Posted - 2011.08.17 22:16:00 -
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I agree Highsec definantly is more viable for the casual gamer, unfortunantly, it seems CCP are trying to force the game to overtake peoples lives, to which I say, fudge you CCP, Im quitting, whoever wants my stuff, can wait untill I decide to properly quit.
0.0 does not turn me on one bit; the ability to do what I want, how I want, when I want, is the true nature of eve, and the way I play eve (highsec isk grinding with lowsec/wardec pvp when I can be bothered) is what i sub for, and thousands of others...
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Pok Nibin
Amarr
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Posted - 2011.08.17 22:29:00 -
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To grasp this delusional ambition on many people's part (especially a couple of guys with CCP) you have to understand that "CCP" envisions this game hitting on all eight cylinders when there's HUGE wars with HUGE losses being made-up for by HUGE replacements on the market.
Yes, it's a very two-dimensional view. And, yes, it's also the sort of issue made from thin air by people who in all likelihood have been promoted to their level of incompetence, but now enjoy a position of policy manufacturing which then affects everyone else in a domino cascade.
Any view on this taking it as a real issue can only be arbitrarily drawn, however fervently cast in ironclad logic, but for the OP's which is, "I don't want to. If you want to, go ahead. Knock yourself out."
Now, you have a chance to see a tiny minority of "smart" guys using their imagined intelligence to alter circumstances for everyone else - blissfully gloating in their ignorance - and of course the majority having to live with it.
Such is the nature of arrogance. Such is the nature of hubris. These two traits are apparently promotion criteria within the corporation in question. It's happened everywhere else in life. Why not here?
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Ashley SchmidtVonGoldberg
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Posted - 2011.08.17 22:30:00 -
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Originally by: Ranger 1
Originally by: Ashley SchmidtVonGoldberg
Originally by: Cearain Edited by: Cearain on 17/08/2011 21:53:47
Originally by: Ranger 1 Again I ask, what question in your OP are you seeking an answer to exactly?
The question is: Why does CCP keep trying to push null sec?
right on the money mate. and its the only question thats been asked by the contributors to this thread
Finally.
The answer, why would they not?
Null sec is one of the largest expanses of real estate in the game and has some of the most interactive potential of any area.
Why would they not want to incentivise it's use? Why would they not want to improve resource distribution to encourage colonization and conflict? Why would they not want to make the frontier of the game more attractive, alluring, dangerous, and fun? Why would they not do this especially if they do not have to diminish other area's in the game to do so?
I have no problem with you not wanting to move there. I do have a problem with you not wanting the game to be improved because it is nto directly to your benefit.
Read the post by Celestia Vespidae just ignore all the ***gotry. that will answer your questions.
Most of the corps/alliances ive dealt with in nullsec want kills per month and forced ops. Call to arms (this one i can buy)
Just because you have found paradise in nullsec do not think that your circumstances apply to everyone. the fact that you have to state that you have time to bang your wife and play with your kids and hang out with people in the real world infers that you are either trying to set yourself apart from the rest of nullsec or that this is the real paradise you want.
dude the question has been asked multiple times please dont make us ask it again.
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Cearain
Caldari The IMPERIUM of LaZy NATION
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Posted - 2011.08.17 22:32:00 -
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Originally by: Ranger 1
Quote: My point is that by buffing null sec you are nerfing the other 3 areas of space. So even if not much changes in high sec, low sec, and wormholes, the value of taking part in those activities will decrease.
How can I say this politely.... well... I really can't.
This is a crock.
If little or nothing changes in the other area's of space, then your activities there will continue to be just as profitable as they currently are.
The only things that will change is that there will be more incentive to go somewhere that you would rather not go, and your jealousy level towards people that do migrate there will increase.
Ok if boosting one area does not hurt other areas then boost what I do - faction war. Please add all the pirate faction items to the fw store and give me a 100x lp boost for my faction war missions. We will leave everything else in null sec the same so it won't be nerfed.
-Cearain
Make fw pvp not pve http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1329906&page=1 |
Cearain
Caldari The IMPERIUM of LaZy NATION
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Posted - 2011.08.17 22:37:00 -
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Originally by: Ranger 1
Originally by: Ashley SchmidtVonGoldberg
Originally by: Cearain Edited by: Cearain on 17/08/2011 21:53:47
Originally by: Ranger 1 Again I ask, what question in your OP are you seeking an answer to exactly?
The question is: Why does CCP keep trying to push null sec?
right on the money mate. and its the only question thats been asked by the contributors to this thread
Finally.
The answer, why would they not?
Null sec is one of the largest expanses of real estate in the game and has some of the most interactive potential of any area.
Why would they not want to incentivise it's use? Why would they not want to improve resource distribution to encourage colonization and conflict? Why would they not want to make the frontier of the game more attractive, alluring, dangerous, and fun? Why would they not do this especially if they do not have to diminish other area's in the game to do so?
I have no problem with you not wanting to move there. I do have a problem with you not wanting the game to be improved because it is nto directly to your benefit.
Finally??? The question is asked in the title and repeated in at least a few posts!
Why wouldn't they push null sec? Well as mentioned in the original post - because not everyone has the time to commit to playing eve in high maintance mode. This was also explained in the original post and several posts in the thread.
And yes by boosting one area and not others then in relative terms you nerf the others. -Cearain
Make fw pvp not pve http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1329906&page=1 |
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Ashley SchmidtVonGoldberg
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Posted - 2011.08.17 22:43:00 -
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The question is: Why does CCP keep trying to push null sec?
right on the money mate. and its the only question thats been asked by the contributors to this thread
Finally.
The answer, why would they not?
Null sec is one of the largest expanses of real estate in the game and has some of the most interactive potential of any area.
Why would they not want to incentivise it's use? Why would they not want to improve resource distribution to encourage colonization and conflict? Why would they not want to make the frontier of the game more attractive, alluring, dangerous, and fun? Why would they not do this especially if they do not have to diminish other area's in the game to do so?
I have no problem with you not wanting to move there. I do have a problem with you not wanting the game to be improved because it is nto directly to your benefit.
Finally??? The question is asked in the title and repeated in at least a few posts!
Why wouldn't they push null sec? Well as mentioned in the original post - because not everyone has the time to commit to playing eve in high maintance mode. This was also explained in the original post and several posts in the thread.
And yes by boosting one area and not others then in relative terms you nerf the others.
This
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Dub Step
Minmatar Death To Everyone But Us
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Posted - 2011.08.17 23:01:00 -
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Originally by: Pok Nibin To grasp this delusional ambition on many people's part (especially a couple of guys with CCP) you have to understand that "CCP" envisions this game hitting on all eight cylinders when there's HUGE wars with HUGE losses being made-up for by HUGE replacements on the market.
Yes, it's a very two-dimensional view. And, yes, it's also the sort of issue made from thin air by people who in all likelihood have been promoted to their level of incompetence, but now enjoy a position of policy manufacturing which then affects everyone else in a domino cascade.
Any view on this taking it as a real issue can only be arbitrarily drawn, however fervently cast in ironclad logic, but for the OP's which is, "I don't want to. If you want to, go ahead. Knock yourself out."
Now, you have a chance to see a tiny minority of "smart" guys using their imagined intelligence to alter circumstances for everyone else - blissfully gloating in their ignorance - and of course the majority having to live with it.
Such is the nature of arrogance. Such is the nature of hubris. These two traits are apparently promotion criteria within the corporation in question. It's happened everywhere else in life. Why not here?
This coming from someone that believes warp scramblers are wrong in PVP situations.
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Nicolo da'Vicenza
Amarr Divine Power. Atlas.
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Posted - 2011.08.17 23:05:00 -
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Edited by: Nicolo da''Vicenza on 17/08/2011 23:08:30 Edited by: Nicolo da''Vicenza on 17/08/2011 23:06:42
Originally by: Cearain Edited by: Cearain on 17/08/2011 21:53:47
Originally by: Ranger 1 Again I ask, what question in your OP are you seeking an answer to exactly?
The question is: Why does CCP keep trying to push null sec?
Lot of reasons...
Nullsec players provide the majority of EVE's coveragee by gaming sites, coverage that CCP hope will turn into subs.
Nullsec players provide more content; stories, propaganda posters and videos, battle reports, etc. Content CCP is trying to harness as a marketing tool via sites like eveisreal.net and turn into subs.
Nullsec players provide consumption, the endless destruction of ships and capitals being the only real ISK sinks against the nonstop injection of new ISK into New Eden.
Player created content is the only real draw that EVE Online has over other MMOs, and 0.0 creates more of it then anywhere else. More players in 0.0, more player created content, hopefully more subs.
That's why. |
Ashley SchmidtVonGoldberg
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Posted - 2011.08.17 23:16:00 -
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The question is: Why does CCP keep trying to push null sec?
Lot of reasons...
Nullsec players provide the majority of EVE's coveragee by gaming sites, coverage that CCP hope will turn into subs.
Nullsec players provide more content; stories, propaganda posters and videos, battle reports, etc. Content CCP is trying to harness as a marketing tool via sites like eveisreal.net and turn into subs.
Nullsec players provide consumption, the endless destruction of ships and capitals being the only real ISK sinks against the nonstop injection of new ISK into New Eden.
Player created content is the only real draw that EVE Online has over other MMOs, and 0.0 creates more of it then anywhere else. More players in 0.0, more player created content, hopefully more subs.
That's why.
Thanks mate. this is the first credible answer we have had for the motion. i assume that the fall of SOV in nullsec can be something that can be defined whereas 400 people fighting for a few weeks in highsec is lost between all the other things going on there.
But this will only move the argument on to Nullsec Lag. most of us started this game with dreams of 1000 players nullsec battles. the lag ended that dream. and think about how many nullsec vets there are in highsec now who came back for lag free small gang empire wars and have no intention of going back
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Dbars Grinding
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Posted - 2011.08.17 23:46:00 -
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If they want me to move out of highsec maybe they should give me more SP to compete with all the old players in null. I refuse to go to null and be food for bitter vets.
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Dbars Grinding
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Posted - 2011.08.17 23:49:00 -
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Almost forgot to mention most null corps or alliances worth a damn do not want someone under 20mil sp if not more.
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Zirse
Minmatar Brutor Tribe
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Posted - 2011.08.18 00:03:00 -
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Originally by: Ashley SchmidtVonGoldberg
The question is: Why does CCP keep trying to push null sec?
Lot of reasons...
Nullsec players provide the majority of EVE's coveragee by gaming sites, coverage that CCP hope will turn into subs.
Nullsec players provide more content; stories, propaganda posters and videos, battle reports, etc. Content CCP is trying to harness as a marketing tool via sites like eveisreal.net and turn into subs.
Nullsec players provide consumption, the endless destruction of ships and capitals being the only real ISK sinks against the nonstop injection of new ISK into New Eden.
Player created content is the only real draw that EVE Online has over other MMOs, and 0.0 creates more of it then anywhere else. More players in 0.0, more player created content, hopefully more subs.
That's why.
Thanks mate. this is the first credible answer we have had for the motion. i assume that the fall of SOV in nullsec can be something that can be defined whereas 400 people fighting for a few weeks in highsec is lost between all the other things going on there.
But this will only move the argument on to Nullsec Lag. most of us started this game with dreams of 1000 players nullsec battles. the lag ended that dream. and think about how many nullsec vets there are in highsec now who came back for lag free small gang empire wars and have no intention of going back
Time dilation. Come, pray with us.
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Aaron Aardvark
Amarr
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Posted - 2011.08.18 00:13:00 -
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Whole bunch of stupid in this thread. |
Cearain
Caldari The IMPERIUM of LaZy NATION
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Posted - 2011.08.18 01:22:00 -
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Originally by: Nicolo da'Vicenza Edited by: Nicolo da''Vicenza on 17/08/2011 23:08:30 Edited by: Nicolo da''Vicenza on 17/08/2011 23:06:42
Originally by: Cearain Edited by: Cearain on 17/08/2011 21:53:47
Originally by: Ranger 1 Again I ask, what question in your OP are you seeking an answer to exactly?
The question is: Why does CCP keep trying to push null sec?
Lot of reasons...
1) Nullsec players provide the majority of EVE's coveragee by gaming sites, coverage that CCP hope will turn into subs.
2) Nullsec players provide more content; stories, propaganda posters and videos, battle reports, etc. Content CCP is trying to harness as a marketing tool via sites like eveisreal.net and turn into subs.
3) Nullsec players provide consumption, the endless destruction of ships and capitals being the only real ISK sinks against the nonstop injection of new ISK into New Eden.
4) Player created content is the only real draw that EVE Online has over other MMOs, and 0.0 creates more of it then anywhere else. More players in 0.0, more player created content, hopefully more subs.
That's why.
The first decent response to the original question. Finally the discussion can move forward one baby step. I numbered your points.
1)Blob warfare makes for decent marketing I agree. 2) Blob warfare makes for decent marketing I agree. 3) Low sec also provides for consumption. Wormholes can as well although they havenĘt been very much. 4)Blob warfare makes for decent marketing I agree.
Now as far as stories its true most come from null sec. But I wouldnĘt call evebank a null sec story.
But here is the thing. Players soon realize that null sec is set up to create blob warfare and marketing for ccp. Although the blobs sound like fun when you start eve, over time you learn itĘs not that great. Yet ccp keeps pushing you to do it for their marketing.
There are plenty of people in null sec to create battles larger than the server can handle. But if they are all too busy making enough isk to buy a lifetime worth of plex for them and their descendents there will never be any big battles like when BOB was around. It really has nothing to do with some perceived lack of isk making opportunities.
-Cearain
Make fw pvp not pve http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1329906&page=1 |
Mendolus
Aurelius Federation Eternal Evocations
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Posted - 2011.08.18 01:31:00 -
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I dunno why I keep coming to these forums, the days when there were more intelligent posters than not are long gone.
Yes, all of null security is a raging torrent of psychopaths that demand 16 hours of your life a day, every last one of them, EVERY ONE OF THEM. I mean who believes this? Who really believes things like this when they type it out?
Seriously?
...seriously?
Just wow. Go crawl under a rock, might as well.
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Kengutsi Akira
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Posted - 2011.08.18 01:43:00 -
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Originally by: Aaron Aardvark Whole bunch of stupid in this thread.
lol irony ------------------------------------ "You know, my foot oughta vandilize your ass" |
Nicolo da'Vicenza
Amarr Divine Power. Atlas.
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Posted - 2011.08.18 14:08:00 -
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Originally by: Cearain
But here is the thing. Players soon realize that null sec is set up to create blob warfare and marketing for ccp. Although the blobs sound like fun when you start eve, over time you learn itĘs not that great. Yet ccp keeps pushing you to do it for their marketing.
To be honest, EVE without large scale conflict is unbelievably boring imo. Two months into the game after some nub highsec experience I jumped into Providence while it was still NRDS and never looked back.
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Mendolus
Aurelius Federation Eternal Evocations
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Posted - 2011.08.18 14:23:00 -
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Originally by: Nicolo da'Vicenza
Originally by: Cearain
But here is the thing. Players soon realize that null sec is set up to create blob warfare and marketing for ccp. Although the blobs sound like fun when you start eve, over time you learn itĘs not that great. Yet ccp keeps pushing you to do it for their marketing.
To be honest, EVE without large scale conflict is unbelievably boring imo. Two months into the game after some nub highsec experience I jumped into Providence while it was still NRDS and never looked back.
Same, formed a corporation in early '08, in late '08 we moved to Providence to experience the rest of the game. We had seen all high security had to offer in time we already spent there. Now it is back, and we are back, and I adore the idea that Providence can once again be a gateway for newer players to come experience 0.0 and get their foot in the door so to speak. This is why I play the game, to be part of something I cannot do alone. There is little in high security that necessitates group activity that does not revolve around making money for the sake of money. And to be honest, once your wallet gets fat enough, the reasons to logon start to dwindle in high security space if you have nothing much else to do but ... make more money. I see a few people clamoring about how fun and amazing high sec wars are, and I wonder... I have seen countless high sec wars over the years, they have all been boring station games, fun? Not for me, let them come to 0.0 and fight us with no artificial limitations.
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Velicitia
Gallente Open Designs
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Posted - 2011.08.18 14:28:00 -
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Originally by: Dbars Grinding Almost forgot to mention most null corps or alliances worth a damn do not want someone under 20mil sp if not more.
SP is an "idiot filter". If you're good, you'll likely get in at below that...
you can be "good" in PVP at below 80m SP. all that the 80m SP means is you can jump from a 'baddon to a mega to a rokh and be equally effective in all three of them... (more or less)
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Originally by: CCP Games, 2010 Creation is so precious; and greed, so destructive. Your choices can make a diference
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Tom Gerard
Caldari Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
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Posted - 2011.08.18 14:45:00 -
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Originally by: Cearain Edited by: Cearain on 17/08/2011 21:53:47
Originally by: Ranger 1 Again I ask, what question in your OP are you seeking an answer to exactly?
The question is: Why does CCP keep trying to push null sec?
It is because I trained into a Golem. CCP Navigator stalks me he is the Khan to my Kirk.
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Nicolo da'Vicenza
Amarr Divine Power. Atlas.
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Posted - 2011.08.18 14:46:00 -
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Most null corps will take anyone of any SP who comes off like they want participate and contribute to the corps' goals instead of just yap in corp chat and get rich quick in their space. |
Cearain
Caldari The IMPERIUM of LaZy NATION
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Posted - 2011.08.18 15:37:00 -
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Originally by: Mendolus
Originally by: Nicolo da'Vicenza
Originally by: Cearain
But here is the thing. Players soon realize that null sec is set up to create blob warfare and marketing for ccp. Although the blobs sound like fun when you start eve, over time you learn itĘs not that great. Yet ccp keeps pushing you to do it for their marketing.
To be honest, EVE without large scale conflict is unbelievably boring imo. Two months into the game after some nub highsec experience I jumped into Providence while it was still NRDS and never looked back.
Same, formed a corporation in early '08, in late '08 we moved to Providence to experience the rest of the game. We had seen all high security had to offer in time we already spent there. Now it is back, and we are back, and I adore the idea that Providence can once again be a gateway for newer players to come experience 0.0 and get their foot in the door so to speak. This is why I play the game, to be part of something I cannot do alone. There is little in high security that necessitates group activity that does not revolve around making money for the sake of money. And to be honest, once your wallet gets fat enough, the reasons to logon start to dwindle in high security space if you have nothing much else to do but ... make more money. I see a few people clamoring about how fun and amazing high sec wars are, and I wonder... I have seen countless high sec wars over the years, they have all been boring station games, fun? Not for me, let them come to 0.0 and fight us with no artificial limitations.
Good then you guys go ahead and blob away in null sec. But really not everyone enjoys that. You know there is more than just null sec blobbery and high sec can flipping. Wormholes and low sec also exist.
And its not really the "player made content" of null sec that make it marketable. Its the large blobs. If there were battles with 100s of cap ships going down in low sec or high sec it would also make the news.
So the answer as to why CCP wants everyone in null sec is this: Null sec attracts the most blob warfare. Blobbing is good marketing. Hence CCP wants everyone in null sec. -Cearain
Make fw pvp not pve http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1329906&page=1 |
Mendolus
Aurelius Federation Eternal Evocations
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Posted - 2011.08.18 15:58:00 -
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Originally by: Cearain
Originally by: Mendolus
Originally by: Nicolo da'Vicenza
Originally by: Cearain
But here is the thing. Players soon realize that null sec is set up to create blob warfare and marketing for ccp. Although the blobs sound like fun when you start eve, over time you learn itĘs not that great. Yet ccp keeps pushing you to do it for their marketing.
To be honest, EVE without large scale conflict is unbelievably boring imo. Two months into the game after some nub highsec experience I jumped into Providence while it was still NRDS and never looked back.
Same, formed a corporation in early '08, in late '08 we moved to Providence to experience the rest of the game. We had seen all high security had to offer in time we already spent there. Now it is back, and we are back, and I adore the idea that Providence can once again be a gateway for newer players to come experience 0.0 and get their foot in the door so to speak. This is why I play the game, to be part of something I cannot do alone. There is little in high security that necessitates group activity that does not revolve around making money for the sake of money. And to be honest, once your wallet gets fat enough, the reasons to logon start to dwindle in high security space if you have nothing much else to do but ... make more money. I see a few people clamoring about how fun and amazing high sec wars are, and I wonder... I have seen countless high sec wars over the years, they have all been boring station games, fun? Not for me, let them come to 0.0 and fight us with no artificial limitations.
Good then you guys go ahead and blob away in null sec. But really not everyone enjoys that. You know there is more than just null sec blobbery and high sec can flipping. Wormholes and low sec also exist.
And its not really the "player made content" of null sec that make it marketable. Its the large blobs. If there were battles with 100s of cap ships going down in low sec or high sec it would also make the news.
So the answer as to why CCP wants everyone in null sec is this: Null sec attracts the most blob warfare. Blobbing is good marketing. Hence CCP wants everyone in null sec.
When I moved to null, wormholes didn't exist, Faction Warfare had just come out but the rumor mill had already started on it falling flat after only a month or two and I wanted to be part of a player alliance which was not possible in Faction Warfare, and supercap walls didn't exist in the form they today, and low sec piracy as an integral foundation of the player-driven content of game was on its way out as the new breed of pirates decided to hell with ransoms, let's shoot everything that moves.
After experiencing 0.0, I decided it was for me, and while the rest may surely hold some entertainment value to others, I prefer 0.0.
As for blobs, spent 75% of my time in the past four years in 0.0, plenty of PvP on a regular basis as a dedicated scout (hence a sparse kill record), and only been in fleets of more than fifty a couple dozen times. So... ? You do not just jump into any random system in null and have a blob of a thousand capital ships bearing down on you, it has never been that way.
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Leeroy McJenkins
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.08.18 15:59:00 -
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Originally by: Nicolo da'Vicenza Most null corps will take anyone of any SP
I heard that an ATLASdot pilot asked what a hotdrop was in your FATLAS intel channel. I didn't believe it until I read your post just now.
Originally by: Leeroy McJenkins There is no real pvp in EVE, there is only winning or losing and then feeling :smug: about winning or sore about losing. There is nothing wrong with this arrangement.
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Leeroy McJenkins
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.08.18 16:04:00 -
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Originally by: Mendolus You do not just jump into any random system in null and have a blob of a thousand capital ships bearing down on you, it has never been that way.
The way things are going its pretty much headed in that direction
Death to all super caps!
Originally by: Leeroy McJenkins There is no real pvp in EVE, there is only winning or losing and then feeling :smug: about winning or sore about losing. There is nothing wrong with this arrangement.
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