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Denidil Gallente Rape Pillage and Burn	Posted - 2011.08.26 17:42:00 - [1] Originally by: Myxx A good 80 percent of the people in that thread were against it entirely. because a voluntarily participation poll presented a small minority (forum posters) of the most extreme unforgiving *****s in a game of general *****s is a representative sample. that is just samplying bias - that's completely ignoring the fact that polls like that only tend to attract people with negative opinions of what is being asked about (self selection bias). hint: forum polls are proof of nothing. stop QQing.
Denidil Gallente Rape Pillage and Burn	Posted - 2011.08.26 22:10:00 - [2] Originally by: Myxx Originally by: baltec1 Originally by: Sullen Skoung also see sig. If you at CCP dont know what NGE/CU is you can google it, but this IS yours As someone who was hit by the NGE I can safely say this is nothing like it. It has the same potential destructive weight on EVE. Consider that CCP thinks it knows best, as did Smed and George Lucas with SW:G. We all know how that went. IF CCP continues to ignore the playerbase in favor of their microtransactions and such... it could easily get out of hand again. I fear if it spirals out of control again, it'll do serious and lasting damage to the playerbase on the same level as the 'New Game Enhancements'. It easily could do that, if not worse. actually just so you know NGE/CU was done to SWG because George Lucas demanded it, Smed (who is normally a douche) really had nothing to do with it. most of SOE thought it was a dumb move. so again, you don't know what you're talking about. and comparing adding silly little cosmetic item MT to Eve to NGE/CU is completely and totally stupid. CCP not doing what YOU want them to do doesn't mean they're not listening to their player base, you don't have access to that data. i would be willing to wager the vast majority of the user base doesn't give a **** about cosmetic MT. now if they actually made MT for non-cosmetic items then a lot of the player base would raise a stink. The difference between the rest of us and you is we're not chicken littles.
Denidil Gallente Rape Pillage and Burn	Posted - 2011.08.26 22:23:00 - [3] Originally by: Myxx I very much do know what I'm talking about, because I played that game from its fourth day til not too long ago. having played a game since the dawn of time doesn't mean you know **. I actually know people who are in design leadership positions at Sony, so I get my information from the horses mouth so to speak. Can MT ruin Eve? Absolutely, just like they CAN destroy any game Has Cosmetic MT ruined any game ever? None that i have ever seen Does having cosmetic MT mean that the game company is simply going to make non-cosmetic, it is a rule of the universe? Absolutely not. Do uninformed users often consider developers to be arrogant (not just of games)? Absolutely, because the devs get tired of explaining complex answers to people incapable of understanding them, over and over. Do you need to chill the ** out? absolutely.
Denidil Gallente Rape Pillage and Burn	Posted - 2011.08.26 22:54:00 - [4] Originally by: Alex Sinai Originally by: baltec1 No they put the plans on hold untill they can get the BPC working correctly to accept a scorp in the build process. They originally wanted to put it up for a while without a need for a normal scorp untill they could get the system changed. We shot down the idea and they agreed with the playerbase. No they put the plans on hold until they feel it's relatively safe to introduce it in their NeX MT shop. Because they suddenly realized that doing so at this moment will ruin their income and potentially reduce the playerbase to unrecoverable levels. But the plans are right there. It's the same as their statements a year ago "we do not have plans for MT shop". Take a look at MT shop in game today. so... they want to introduce a BPC to the NeX store that accepts a scorpion, and outputs a scorpion with a different paint job - but same attributes (cap, cpu, pg, etc)? and this is bad.. because? that would qualify as cosmetic. seriously stop **ing your pants long enough to realize that nobody gives a about cosmetic items - and nobody SHOULD give a **. you know how much FUN it will be to Pop an Ishukone Scorp for the lulz?
Denidil Gallente Rape Pillage and Burn	Posted - 2011.08.27 00:28:00 - [5] Originally by: Alex Sinai Originally by: Denidil Originally by: Alex Sinai Originally by: baltec1 No they put the plans on hold untill they can get the BPC working correctly to accept a scorp in the build process. They originally wanted to put it up for a while without a need for a normal scorp untill they could get the system changed. We shot down the idea and they agreed with the playerbase. No they put the plans on hold until they feel it's relatively safe to introduce it in their NeX MT shop. Because they suddenly realized that doing so at this moment will ruin their income and potentially reduce the playerbase to unrecoverable levels. But the plans are right there. It's the same as their statements a year ago "we do not have plans for MT shop". Take a look at MT shop in game today. apparently i understood it better than you, because i understood that they said it was a temporary solution until they could fix the BPC. when the players said "nah, that's not good" they actually used logic and convinced CCP that they're correct. so... they want to introduce a BPC to the NeX store that accepts a scorpion, and outputs a scorpion with a different paint job - but same attributes (cap, cpu, pg, etc)? and this is bad.. because? that would qualify as cosmetic. seriously stop **ing your pants long enough to realize that nobody gives a about cosmetic items - and nobody SHOULD give a . you know how much FUN it will be to Pop an Ishukone Scorp for the lulz? You have difficulty reading posts? Or missing parts of it? The initial plan was and still is to put Ishukone Scorpion without any BPC or whatever else. Just a ship out of thin air. That plan is on hold until they decide they can introduce it without loosing half of their playerbase that same day. If you have any doubts please reread again a year back statements by CCP employees "We do not have any plans for MT shop" and take a look at that MT shop in game today. Originally by:** Myxx Originally by: Denidil Originally by: Alex Sinai Originally by: baltec1 No they put the plans on hold untill they can get the BPC working correctly to accept a scorp in the build process. They originally wanted to put it up for a while without a need for a normal scorp untill they could get the system changed. We shot down the idea and they agreed with the playerbase. No they put the plans on hold until they feel it's relatively safe to introduce it in their NeX MT shop. Because they suddenly realized that doing so at this moment will ruin their income and potentially reduce the playerbase to unrecoverable levels. But the plans are right there. It's the same as their statements a year ago "we do not have plans for MT shop". Take a look at MT shop in game today. so... they want to introduce a BPC to the NeX store that accepts a scorpion, and outputs a scorpion with a different paint job - but same attributes (cap, cpu, pg, etc)? and this is bad.. because? that would qualify as cosmetic. seriously stop **ing your pants long enough to realize that nobody gives a about cosmetic items - and nobody SHOULD give a . you know how much FUN it will be to Pop an Ishukone Scorp for the lulz? so where does it STOP in that vein? Can't trust CCP or any developer for that matter to keep to their 'we do not have any plans for x at this time'. And more often than not, that has infact turned out to be decidedly false. So infact, they can't really say jack ** that will be taken for more than a lie because they've gone back on it too many times. your level of paranoia borders on medical.
Denidil Gallente Rape Pillage and Burn	Posted - 2011.08.27 14:13:00 - [6] Edited by: Denidil on 27/08/2011 14:12:46 Originally by: Inspiration Edited by: Inspiration on 27/08/2011 10:36:26 I shouldn't even take bait of the trolls that say it's only a small population that has serious issues with MT. Well I got news for you, it is NOT a small minority that is very vocal about it. It is not those few hundred players shooting a monument in Jita or Amarr. you fail at math. realllllly hard. divided a "few hundred" by "a few hundred thousand". then get back to me. the only troll here is YOU. I christen you "Math Fail Troll". ******.
Denidil Gallente Rape Pillage and Burn	Posted - 2011.08.27 14:20:00 - [7] Originally by: Myxx .... Originally by: Arnar Hrafn Gylfason, Senior Producer for EVE Online It is CCPæs plan that the Noble Exchange (NeX store) will be used for the sale of vanity items only. There are no plans, and have been no plans, as per previous communication and CSM meetings, to introduce the sale of game breaking items or enhancements in the NeX store. Originally by: The Mittani, Chairman of CSM 6 Game-affecting Virtual Goods: We are convinced that CCP has no plans to introduce any game-affecting virtual goods, only pure vanity items such as clothing and ship skins. We have been repeatedly assured that there are no plans for ægold ammo', ships which have different statistics from existing common hulls, or any other feared ægame destroying' virtual goods or services. We have expressed our deep concern about potential grey areas that the introduction of virtual goods permits, and CCP has made a commitment to discuss any proposals that might fall into these grey areas in detail with CSM at the earliest possible stage. both from http://www.eveonline.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&bid=935 which is a nearly 2 month old dev blog i trust the CSM to do two things: be rabidly pro-0.0, and keep game affecting MT out of eve.
Denidil Gallente Rape Pillage and Burn	Posted - 2011.08.27 14:23:00 - [8] Originally by: Myxx You must be stupid. What inspiration is saying, is that the population that don't like microtransactions is far larger than just a few hundred people that are vocal about it. i know very well what they're trying to say. they have no evidence to support their (your) position. they have a thread they can refer to that shows that there are some people who don't like it. we get that you're paranoid delusionals worried that just because some other **ty F2P games had problems with MT that means all games that have MT must be **ty. which is obviously not true looking at the market. CCP never intends to introduce anything that affects gameplay. so i'm fine with it. i think they should spend the art time on more productive things, but i'm not going to be all butthurt about vanity MT. the game is still fun.
Denidil Gallente Rape Pillage and Burn	Posted - 2011.08.27 15:56:00 - [9] Originally by: Inspiration Originally by: Denidil Originally by: Myxx You must be stupid. What inspiration is saying, is that the population that don't like microtransactions is far larger than just a few hundred people that are vocal about it. i know very well what they're trying to say. they have no evidence to support their (your) position. they have a thread they can refer to that shows that there are some people who don't like it. we get that you're paranoid delusionals worried that just because some other **ty F2P games had problems with MT that means all games that have MT must be **ty. which is obviously not true looking at the market. CCP never intends to introduce anything that affects gameplay. so i'm fine with it. i think they should spend the art time on more productive things, but i'm not going to be all butthurt about vanity MT. the game is still fun. Evidence is in my original post, go to Jita, look at market of NeX shop items and then come back to report your findings! They ignored player wished for a long long time and then came with an expansion few are truely excited about....get it? get a dictionary. you need to learn the definition of the word "evidence"

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