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Ana Vyr
Caldari
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Posted - 2011.08.29 13:48:00 -
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I could have sworn CCP said we'd be getting some information this weekend regarding the next patch. Did I imagine that?
No new Dev Blogs. No highly visible posts on the subject.
CCP, care to comment?
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Simetraz
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Posted - 2011.08.29 13:51:00 -
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EVE Online: Incarna 1.1 to be deployed on Thursday, September 1
EVE Online: Incarna 1.1 deployment has been delayed to Thursday, September 1. This deployment will take place during an extended downtime begining at 10:00 UTC and is expected to be completed at 15:00 UTC. Incarna 1.1 introduces a number of fixes and improvements, including elimination of the session change timer while switching ships in station, updates to the Macintosh client and customizable API keys(blog linked here.)
Patch notes for this release will be made available after this coming weekend.
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Ana Vyr
Caldari
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Posted - 2011.08.29 13:52:00 -
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Right, so that's in four days. "This weekend" has passed.
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Vincent Athena
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Posted - 2011.08.29 13:55:00 -
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They said "after the weekend" which can mean the night before the patch, in 2+ days.
They make the patch notes after QA has approved changes, and dis-approved other changes. Then they can assemble the patch notes, and a few hours later the patch itself is ready for deployment. So the patch notes are always done just a few hours before the patch is ready. Now they could delay the patch so we "have the patch notes early", or they could just deploy it as soon as its ready.
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Misunderstood Genius
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Posted - 2011.08.29 14:10:00 -
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What? No patch list yet? They said we'd get intel this weekend. Did not happen? Monday now. UNSUBBING!
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Ana Vyr
Caldari
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Posted - 2011.08.29 14:11:00 -
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I guess they still must be considering what might get dropped/added.
I work in the software business. I actually generate our own release notes which are tied to each individual change request in our change control system. I run a query, and voila, patch notes. Editing is required because devs can barely write coherently, but the only time we are concerned with publishing a snapshot of the notes is when we are considering dropping features (or adding them in some cases).
Four days before a release, there would be heads rolling if the feature set wasn't locked down in stone at this point. However, our business concerns claim processing systems, so things are just a bit more critical than game software :).
Worrying about it is silly, but I truly hope CCP can provide something to the disgruntled customer base to ease the tension about the game's future.
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Ciar Meara
Amarr
Virtus Vindice
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Posted - 2011.08.29 14:33:00 -
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Edited by: Ciar Meara on 29/08/2011 14:33:46
Why are you interested in the patch notes? Nothing interesting will be in them.
Everything is for winter or soonTM
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Hilmar getur ekki tala= vi= ¦ig n·na, hann er a= fara f japanska tfskuverslun.
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Kerfira
Kerfira Corp
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Posted - 2011.08.29 15:06:00 -
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 Originally by: Vincent Athena
They said "after the weekend" which can mean the night before the patch, in 2+ days.
Actually, it can also mean they'll be published in 2014 (or later) 
Originally by: CCP Wrangler
EVE isn't designed to just look like a cold, dark and harsh world, it's designed to be a cold, dark and harsh world.
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Mr LaForge
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Posted - 2011.08.29 15:08:00 -
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I'm guessing the patch notes are still being translated.
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Bootleg Jack
Potters Field
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Posted - 2011.08.29 15:19:00 -
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"Are we there yet?"
"How far mommy"
"When are we going to get there??"
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GM Homonoia
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Posted - 2011.08.29 15:25:00 -
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They are here.
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Meryl SinGarda
Caldari
Belligerent Underpayed Tactical Team
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Posted - 2011.08.29 15:26:00 -
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Awesome!!!!! Goodbye old forums and necroed threads!
I laugh in the face of the whiners who've got to start all over again. :D
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Karl Planck
Labyrinth Obtaining Chaotic Kangaroos
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Posted - 2011.08.29 15:26:00 -
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Originally by: GM Homonoia
They are here.
GM Homonoia is the sh*t. No arguement, no nothing. Homonoia always delivers
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GM Homonoia
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Posted - 2011.08.29 15:27:00 -
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My favorite note:
Originally by: Patch Notes for Incarna 1.1
User Interface
The ôShow Infoö window for drones in your ship's drone bay now displays the correct attributes according to your skills.
Time to get out the Rattlesnake again.
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dgastuffz
Caldari
Hell's Revenge
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Posted - 2011.08.29 15:31:00 -
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and where is the patch in this post this is random crap
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Smoking Blunts
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Posted - 2011.08.29 15:31:00 -
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Edited by: Smoking Blunts on 29/08/2011 15:32:54
so we get the new forums, is account mangemnt now included or do we still have to come back to here for that?
edit spelling, beer for breakfest is only a good idea some times
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GM Homonoia
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Posted - 2011.08.29 15:34:00 -
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Originally by: Smoking Blunts
so we get the new forums, is account mangemnt now included or do we stiull have to come back to there for that?
Account management will remain separated from EVE Gate since that contains your real life information, and we like that to be secure and safe in its own little corner where it can't talk to strangers with candy without asking an adult first.
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Khamal Jolstien
Caldari
THORN Syndicate
BricK sQuAD.
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Posted - 2011.08.29 15:35:00 -
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Originally by: GM Homonoia
My favorite note:
Originally by: Patch Notes for Incarna 1.1
User Interface
The ôShow Infoö window for drones in your ship's drone bay now displays the correct attributes according to your skills.
Time to get out the Rattlesnake again.
Not like you can see it behind the door 
Ship spinning still not here, and still watching friends slowly leaving the game. Even had people who were about to try it decide against it.
Originally by: McKinlay
When you get on the batphone and the only people left in the phone book are Aeternus and BLAST it might be time to hang up.
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Meryl SinGarda
Caldari
Belligerent Underpayed Tactical Team
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Posted - 2011.08.29 15:36:00 -
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Originally by: GM Homonoia
Originally by: Smoking Blunts
so we get the new forums, is account mangemnt now included or do we stiull have to come back to there for that?
Account management will remain separated from EVE Gate since that contains your real life information, and we like that to be secure and safe in its own little corner where it can't talk to strangers with candy without asking an adult first.
hahaha! +9000
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Smoking Blunts
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Posted - 2011.08.29 15:36:00 -
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so unlike now where we get a link on the page to the left. we dont?
same as last time the new forums were pushed out?
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Palovana
Caldari
Inner Fire Inc.
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Posted - 2011.08.29 15:37:00 -
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So mostly API, Forum and Spacebook changes. The only useful change to the game is in-station ship switching (which now no longer will start a session timer).
Where's the melting GFX card fix, the fix for skill bonuses not being applied, the fix for close buttons that don't close the ruttin' window, etc, etc.
And how long before we're back on the old forums because of the security of the new forums being rubbish again?
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divanoo
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Posted - 2011.08.29 15:37:00 -
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Originally by: GM Homonoia
They are here.
This is the patch?lol ccp at it's best
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Black Dranzer
Caldari
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Posted - 2011.08.29 15:39:00 -
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Originally by: GM Homonoia
They are here.
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Sister Bliss
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
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Posted - 2011.08.29 15:43:00 -
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Wow >.< What a ****ing load of ****. It's good to see player and CSM feedback has really helped prioritise and focus your team on what matters to your customers!
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Smoking Blunts
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Posted - 2011.08.29 15:43:00 -
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Originally by: Khamal Jolstien
Originally by: GM Homonoia
My favorite note:
Originally by: Patch Notes for Incarna 1.1
User Interface
The ôShow Infoö window for drones in your ship's drone bay now displays the correct attributes according to your skills.
Time to get out the Rattlesnake again.
Not like you can see it behind the door
Ship spinning still not here, and still watching friends slowly leaving the game. Even had people who were about to try it decide against it.
so many people i know have left, its sad to see the game slowly ruined by ccp just for greed. oh well, **** the new **** forums and **** the nex store. give me back my old hanger and the functionality
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Abdiel Kavash
Caldari
Paladin Order
Fidelas Constans
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Posted - 2011.08.29 15:45:00 -
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Edited by: Abdiel Kavash on 29/08/2011 15:45:02
Quote:
òPlayers will be notified of the following activities in real time:
◦When somebody posts on your wall.
◦When somebody comments on your wall post.
◦When somebody comments on a post other character has made on your wall.
◦When somebody posts a reply to a forum thread you subscribe to.
◦When somebody likes your post on the forums.
◦When you receive an event invitation.
◦When you receive new EVE Mail.
Wow, I really hope there will be some option to turn this off. Especially the underlined point can get SERIOUSLY annoying. "Hey, everyone like this guy's post, let's spam him with notifications!"
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Meryl SinGarda
Caldari
Belligerent Underpayed Tactical Team
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Posted - 2011.08.29 15:46:00 -
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Originally by: Smoking Blunts
Originally by: Khamal Jolstien
Originally by: GM Homonoia
My favorite note:
Originally by: Patch Notes for Incarna 1.1
User Interface
The ôShow Infoö window for drones in your ship's drone bay now displays the correct attributes according to your skills.
Time to get out the Rattlesnake again.
Not like you can see it behind the door
Ship spinning still not here, and still watching friends slowly leaving the game. Even had people who were about to try it decide against it.
so many people i know have left, its sad to see the game slowly ruined by ccp just for greed. oh well, **** the new **** forums and **** the nex store. give me back my old hanger and the functionality
If people are leaving/not trying the game over something as simple and useless as ship spinning, I'm sure we're not missing much. But then, you'd turn around and call the new forums and what-have-you useless. lolcakes
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divanoo
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Posted - 2011.08.29 15:46:00 -
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Originally by: Smoking Blunts
Originally by: Khamal Jolstien
Originally by: GM Homonoia
My favorite note:
Originally by: Patch Notes for Incarna 1.1
User Interface
The ôShow Infoö window for drones in your ship's drone bay now displays the correct attributes according to your skills.
Time to get out the Rattlesnake again.
Not like you can see it behind the door
Ship spinning still not here, and still watching friends slowly leaving the game. Even had people who were about to try it decide against it.
so many people i know have left, its sad to see the game slowly ruined by ccp just for greed. oh well, **** the new **** forums and **** the nex store. give me back my old hanger and the functionality
you really think the are going to reintroduce the old hangar? if they cared as much as they said they did about our input, it would've been implemented by now!
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Smoking Blunts
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Posted - 2011.08.29 15:47:00 -
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strange they said they woudl reintroduce it in that blog after all the crap they caused.. so your saying ccp are liers?
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Karl Planck
Labyrinth Obtaining Chaotic Kangaroos
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Posted - 2011.08.29 15:47:00 -
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In after the troll but before the threadnaught
In other news, still loving eve and looking forward to these small improvements
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Shaalira D'arc
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Posted - 2011.08.29 15:50:00 -
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One of the more hefty parts of the patch was hidden down in the 'Technical' category:
Originally by: Patch Notes
ò CarbonIO has been activated on the game client. More information regarding CarbonIO and our future plans can be found here.
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Tippia
Caldari
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2011.08.29 15:51:00 -
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So, are the forums still completely separated from the rest of the website, like in the test earlier in the summer when the (very useful) sidebar had been (very uselessly) been removed?
And is is still shock-full of jQuery calls that override (read: break) standard browser behaviour?
ùùù
ôIf you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡
you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.ö
ù Karath Piki
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S3na
Amarr
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Posted - 2011.08.29 15:55:00 -
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soooo.... noting about spaceships huh ? thats odd
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Black Dranzer
Caldari
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Posted - 2011.08.29 15:57:00 -
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So, yeah.
I don't know. I wasn't really expecting anything fancy. I knew that CQ would still be there and still be terrible, I knew no new CQs were coming, I knew that it'd mostly be just bugfixes and **** I didn't care about. Okay, the API and Eve Gate and Eve Forums. Various things which surround Eve, but aren't actually Eve itself.
But it would've been nice to scroll down and see something. I don't know what. Something unexpected. Something nice. A little old "oh hey, wow, that's kind of neat". Something to make me suspect that maybe CCP had woken up. That CCP knew they needed to shape up and start actually.. I don't know. Doing more. Being better. I wanted a sign that CCP had actually taken all the riots and the anger to heart.
Sadly, not.
I guess my sub'll go dead for a while. Such is life.
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Tippia
Caldari
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2011.08.29 15:57:00 -
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Originally by: S3na
soooo.... noting about spaceships huh ? thats odd
Oh, I don't know. Removing the ship switch timer and fixing show info on drones kind of countà
ùùù
ôIf you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡
you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.ö
ù Karath Piki
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Smoking Blunts
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Posted - 2011.08.29 15:59:00 -
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Originally by: Tippia
So, are the forums still completely separated from the rest of the website, like in the test earlier in the summer when the (very useful) sidebar had been (very uselessly) been removed?
And is is still shock-full of jQuery calls that override (read: break) standard browser behaviour?
you said that so much better than me, beer for breakfest is so bad, i ran out of beer and am now on the jack. on well 3 days to troll these forums til my trolling days are done. my eyes cant take the new ones, im old i guess
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dgastuffz
Caldari
Hell's Revenge
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Posted - 2011.08.29 15:59:00 -
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Edited by: dgastuffz on 29/08/2011 16:00:03
Originally by: Tippia
Originally by: S3na
soooo.... noting about spaceships huh ? thats odd
Oh, I don't know. Removing the ship switch timer and fixing show info on drones kind of countà
switch timer not nedded
and for the drone bug hey they are fixing stuff they did 8 weeks ago nice job
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Buruk Utama
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Posted - 2011.08.29 16:02:00 -
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So another content-less patch is what I've read.
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Andrea Griffin
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Posted - 2011.08.29 16:03:00 -
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Very much looking forward to the session change timer removal and CarbonIO. I know that some people are upset that there isn't more in this release, but when activating something like CArbonIO on a large scale it's smart to reduce the number of moving parts.
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Mr LaForge
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Posted - 2011.08.29 16:08:00 -
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Another bunch of....stuff. Oh look, the new forums are going to be back....
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Lord Okinaba
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Posted - 2011.08.29 16:10:00 -
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No drone fix. WTF?
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Lessoroz
AQUILA INC
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Posted - 2011.08.29 16:12:00 -
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Edited by: Lessoroz on 29/08/2011 16:15:09
So I have bugs listed as fixed in the patch on the bug report tracker but are not on the patch notes :CCP:? (Assuming this patch is the 2011 AUGUSTUS build because otherwise CCP hates english)
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Karl Planck
Labyrinth Obtaining Chaotic Kangaroos
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Posted - 2011.08.29 16:16:00 -
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Originally by: Andrea Griffin
Very much looking forward to the session change timer removal and CarbonIO. I know that some people are upset that there isn't more in this release, but when activating something like CArbonIO on a large scale it's smart to reduce the number of moving parts.
In regard to the CarbonIO this is true. But, there is no need to point this out. Soon enough this thread will devolve into Door comments and Ragequits. And Eve will be dying, as usual.
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Black Dranzer
Caldari
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Posted - 2011.08.29 16:18:00 -
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Originally by: Karl Planck
In regard to the CarbonIO this is true. But, there is no need to point this out. Soon enough this thread will devolve into Door comments and Ragequits. And Eve will be dying, as usual.
Got a little smudge on your nose there, Karl.
This patch is insubstantial. Perhaps people expect too much. That doesn't make the patch any less insubstantial.
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Denidil
Gallente
Rape Pillage and Burn
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Posted - 2011.08.29 16:18:00 -
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Originally by: Karl Planck
Originally by: Andrea Griffin
Very much looking forward to the session change timer removal and CarbonIO. I know that some people are upset that there isn't more in this release, but when activating something like CArbonIO on a large scale it's smart to reduce the number of moving parts.
In regard to the CarbonIO this is true. But, there is no need to point this out. Soon enough this thread will devolve into Door comments and Ragequits. And Eve will be dying, as usual.
yup. i was reading the patch nodes and was saying "meh. they should have done more.. there will be a lot of rage" - then i noticed the CarbionIO and started reading the explanation and went "um.. dude... holy ****, all these ragers have no idea how big of an upgrade is coming in this patch. this change has the potential to clear most of the large fleet fight lag issues".
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iKill Giants
Eternal Phoenix Rises
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Posted - 2011.08.29 16:26:00 -
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Originally by: Shaalira D'arc
One of the more hefty parts of the patch was hidden down in the 'Technical' category:
Originally by: Patch Notes
ò CarbonIO has been activated on the game client. More information regarding CarbonIO and our future plans can be found here.
Does this mean I won't look like Snoop Dogg McMonkey anymore?
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Karl Planck
Labyrinth Obtaining Chaotic Kangaroos
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Posted - 2011.08.29 16:27:00 -
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Edited by: Karl Planck on 29/08/2011 16:29:17
Originally by: Black Dranzer
Originally by: Karl Planck
In regard to the CarbonIO this is true. But, there is no need to point this out. Soon enough this thread will devolve into Door comments and Ragequits. And Eve will be dying, as usual.
Got a little smudge on your nose there, Karl.
This patch is insubstantial. Perhaps people expect too much. That doesn't make the patch any less insubstantial.
I think the insult you were looking for was fanboi not brown-nose. You say unsubstantial. Yup they are not doing crap for "internet spaceships"
Then you reflect on the past, and think, oh yea, we have all been p*ssing and moaning about lag. So CCP works on it, in some ways that are obvious like time-dialation, and some ways like CarbonIO. This patch will reduce server CPU load and changes the foundation of the back door mechanics of the game.
But of course, thats not really any work and it definitely has no effect on gameplay. And above all, no one wanted this or has been asking for it, I mean wtf WAS ccp thinking? They should really just give us a new ship and completely change a ship class for balancing reasons in a way that of course everyone will be happy about.
And even then, Eve, as always, will still be dying.
*Edit, spelling herpa derp
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CCP Zymurgist
Gallente
C C P
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Posted - 2011.08.29 16:29:00 -
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Edited by: CCP Zymurgist on 29/08/2011 16:30:30
We just published the patch notes! You can see them here.
Edit: Homonoia totally beat me to it..... So much for being original
Zymurgist
Community Representative
CCP NA, EVE Online
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dgastuffz
Caldari
Hell's Revenge
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Posted - 2011.08.29 16:32:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Zymurgist
Edited by: CCP Zymurgist on 29/08/2011 16:30:30
We just published the patch notes! You can see them here.
Edit: Homonoia totally beat me to it..... So much for being original
again where is the patch in this notes ?
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BugraT 'DJ' WarheaD
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Posted - 2011.08.29 16:36:00 -
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Ship spinning ? Real Incarna Interface ?
Oh no, i'm just dreaming ...
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Dirk Decibel
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Posted - 2011.08.29 16:36:00 -
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Meh, nothing mentioned on performance improvements for CQ.... 
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Black Dranzer
Caldari
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Posted - 2011.08.29 16:37:00 -
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Originally by: Karl Planck
Stuff
Brown Nose and Fanboy are largely synonymous, but that's neither here nor there.
CarbonIO is nice, certainly, but that's not the point. The point is that this patch is the first real patch since the PR hell of the Incarna release. CCP had been yelled at from multiple angles, and this is where we got to see if they'd taken notice. I look at these patch notes, and I think "If nobody had ever said a word, these patch notes would have been exactly the same".
There is nothing in these patch notes which suggest anything has changed. That's the key.
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Shaalira D'arc
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Posted - 2011.08.29 16:37:00 -
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Edited by: Shaalira D''arc on 29/08/2011 16:41:06
Originally by: iKill Giants
Originally by: Shaalira D'arc
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Does this mean I won't look like Snoop Dogg McMonkey anymore?
The screenie made me lol.
But no, CarbonIO (as described in the dev blog) has more to do with core processing, multi-threading and reducing lag than your awesome tan.
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Karl Planck
Labyrinth Obtaining Chaotic Kangaroos
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Posted - 2011.08.29 16:37:00 -
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Originally by: dgastuffz
Originally by: CCP Zymurgist
Edited by: CCP Zymurgist on 29/08/2011 16:30:30
We just published the patch notes! You can see them here.
Edit: Homonoia totally beat me to it..... So much for being original
again where is the patch in this notes ?
o/ dga,
for you it is in the session timers and CarbonIO, though, your obvious sarcasm has been noted.
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Denidil
Gallente
Rape Pillage and Burn
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Posted - 2011.08.29 16:41:00 -
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Originally by: dgastuffz
Originally by: CCP Zymurgist
Edited by: CCP Zymurgist on 29/08/2011 16:30:30
We just published the patch notes! You can see them here.
Edit: Homonoia totally beat me to it..... So much for being original
again where is the patch in this notes ?
i see a huge server performance increase from a foundational level, which will reduce lag noticeably immediately and lays the groundwork for significant ongoing performance optimizations.
but them i'm actually a software engineer so i know that a little one line item in a patch note can represent a year of work for a team of 5 or 6 devs (and 5 or 6 devs working on one feature in any application is a lot of work).
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Karl Planck
Labyrinth Obtaining Chaotic Kangaroos
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Posted - 2011.08.29 16:44:00 -
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Edited by: Karl Planck on 29/08/2011 16:45:53
Originally by: Black Dranzer
CarbonIO is nice, certainly, but that's not the point. The point is that this patch is the first real patch since the PR hell of the Incarna release. CCP had been yelled at from multiple angles, and this is where we got to see if they'd taken notice. I look at these patch notes, and I think "If nobody had ever said a word, these patch notes would have been exactly the same".
There is nothing in these patch notes which suggest anything has changed. That's the key.
I suggest you go out there and protest some more champ. You show that jita monument whos boss.
(edit, hahah i said momentum)
In other words you said
Originally by: Black Dranzer
They DID work on reducing lag, but that wasn't what I was upset about now. A few months ago I thew a tantrum, with EVERYONE that MATTERS in Eve. CCP said they would listen to our complaints and immediately give us everything we were crying about. But, but, but...they didn't. Its like we shouldn't have thrown a tantrum in the first place.
Thats what is really sounds like from what you are saying.
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Palovana
Caldari
Inner Fire Inc.
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Posted - 2011.08.29 16:50:00 -
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Originally by: Denidil
i see a huge server performance increase from a foundational level, which will reduce lag noticeably immediately and lays the groundwork for significant ongoing performance optimizations.
but them i'm actually a software engineer so i know that a little one line item in a patch note can represent a year of work for a team of 5 or 6 devs (and 5 or 6 devs working on one feature in any application is a lot of work).
IF that is the case, the first entry in the patch notes should mention something like:
* LAG has been dramatically reduced through the introduction of the new CarbonIO system. Other benefits include (x), (y) and (z).
Not buried 80% of the way down below the Spacebook crap.
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CCP is still under the misconception that by waving a bunch of (NeX store items) in our faces, we'll give in to our urges and (buy) them. Bring back the hangar view and its functionality! |
MinSebsis
Minmatar
Steel Hammer Industry
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Posted - 2011.08.29 16:51:00 -
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I will give you credit for the CarbonIO, good job on that.
They removed the session timer on changing ships, which is good but I feel it is a left over scrap of meat given to us so we will stop screaming for spinning ships again.
If you had only one line in the patch notes saying, spinning in station is back, it would have been the best patch in a very long while if not ever.
I feel it is something most eve players would enjoy having back!
Till then I stair at a Door!
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Grey Stormshadow
Starwreck Industries
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Posted - 2011.08.29 16:54:00 -
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Impressed by CarbonIO devblog. Very good and professional work.
Unimpressed by not seeing return of old turret icons.
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Black Dranzer
Caldari
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Posted - 2011.08.29 16:55:00 -
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Originally by: Karl Planck
I suggest you go out there and protest some more champ. You show that jita momentum whos boss.
Oh don't be intentionally ****ing dense. The protests weren't about doing damage or making oneself feel better. It was about negative publicity, and to that end, it served its purpose. The entire MMO industry was making iffy glances at EVE for a couple of weeks during the whole debacle, or didn't you notice with your head in the sand?
CCP, in times past, gave the impression that it was an exceptional company. This impression grows progressively weaker, and it's something that a lot of people seem to be completely oblivious about. The major selling point of Eve isn't that it's some great experience, it's that it's a shining beacon of hope amongst a sea of mediocrity.
But with the recent bone-headed moves that they've made, they have not been looking competent. They have not been looking clever. They have not been looking excellent, and they have not been looking like a company I want to continue supporting. This patch, to me, was going to decide if I'd give them more of my money.
I am not going to give them more of my money. At least not for a while.
That's what this boils down to.
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So'rren
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Posted - 2011.08.29 16:58:00 -
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Originally by: Karl Planck
Edited by: Karl Planck on 29/08/2011 16:45:53
Originally by: Black Dranzer
CarbonIO is nice, certainly, but that's not the point. The point is that this patch is the first real patch since the PR hell of the Incarna release. CCP had been yelled at from multiple angles, and this is where we got to see if they'd taken notice. I look at these patch notes, and I think "If nobody had ever said a word, these patch notes would have been exactly the same".
There is nothing in these patch notes which suggest anything has changed. That's the key.
I suggest you go out there and protest some more champ. You show that jita monument whos boss.
(edit, hahah i said momentum)
In other words you said
Originally by: Black Dranzer
They DID work on reducing lag, but that wasn't what I was upset about now. A few months ago I thew a tantrum, with EVERYONE that MATTERS in Eve. CCP said they would listen to our complaints and immediately give us everything we were crying about. But, but, but...they didn't. Its like we shouldn't have thrown a tantrum in the first place.
Thats what is really sounds like from what you are saying.
You're not very bright are you? It's ok, not everyone has to be smart. Just let us handle it from here, 'k?
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Karl Planck
Labyrinth Obtaining Chaotic Kangaroos
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Posted - 2011.08.29 17:05:00 -
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Originally by: Black Dranzer
Originally by: Karl Planck
I suggest you go out there and protest some more champ. You show that jita momentum whos boss.
Oh don't be intentionally ****ing dense. The protests weren't about doing damage or making oneself feel better. It was about negative publicity, and to that end, it served its purpose. The entire MMO industry was making iffy glances at EVE for a couple of weeks during the whole debacle, or didn't you notice with your head in the sand?
So you didn't feel better about being ****ed off after the threadnaught and the protest? On another note I still find the idea of what you people thought you could accomplish by means of protesting extremely funny.
Originally by: Black Dranzer
I am not going to give them more of my money. At least not for a while.
That's what this boils down to.
Nope, what your responses boil down to
Originally by: Black Dranzer
Scr*w you guys, I am going home
You probably wouldn't be happy if CCP mailed you a horse that **** rainbows.
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Black Dranzer
Caldari
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Posted - 2011.08.29 17:16:00 -
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Originally by: Karl Planck
On another note I still find the idea of what you people thought you could accomplish by means of protesting extremely funny.
We aimed to give CCP bad publicity and cause for concern. In that, we succeeded. I'm not sure why you find that so amusing. Or do you think that all that bad publicity just sort of didn't happen?
Originally by: Karl Planck
You probably wouldn't be happy if CCP mailed you a horse that **** rainbows.
I don't expect you to know the personality of everybody on the forums off by heart, so I'll educate you as to my nature.
I am not some bitter grognard who hates everything without reason. I realize full well that things take time. I also give credit when it's due. I didn't ask for a rainbow ****ting pony. I didn't ask for anything, actually. But what I would have liked would be some indication that CCP has actually learned anything over the last couple of months. I credit them with the lag improvements, even though they don't affect me. I credit them with the new turrets, they're quite good. I credit them with the apparent desire to involve the community in the design phase over at the FnI forum.
But talk is cheap. As is similar to what somebody once said, this is a time when we listen less to what CCP has to say, and pay more attention to what they actually do.
And so far, they've done sweet **** all.
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Karl Planck
Labyrinth Obtaining Chaotic Kangaroos
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Posted - 2011.08.29 17:46:00 -
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All right, seems to be time to get off the troll boat. So...
Originally by: Black Dranzer
We aimed to give CCP bad publicity and cause for concern. In that, we succeeded. I'm not sure why you find that so amusing. Or do you think that all that bad publicity just sort of didn't happen?
I don't believe the bad publicity was really that bad. I also do not think it was significant, at least not nearly as much as it has been said by many people on these forums. Inflating the effect of the protest is, imo, a way to feel better about being angry. That is what i find amusing.
Originally by: Black Dranzer
Originally by: Karl Planck
You probably wouldn't be happy if CCP mailed you a horse that **** rainbows.
I didn't ask for a rainbow ****ting pony.
C'mon, i laughed.
Originally by: Black Dranzer
I didn't ask for anything, actually. But what I would have liked would be some indication that CCP has actually learned anything over the last couple of months...
And so far, they've done sweet **** all.
This is really what your complaining about. But what is it you want them to do? Change the direction of the company? People have wanted WiS for years. YEARS! Just because a few people complain about here isn't gonna change jack squat.
You want them to fix some of the bugs that are in game? I am sure they want to as well. I am sure they aren't simply fixes. I am sure that YOU are not sure they are simply fixes.
As far as them "learning something," they aren't your child, they are a vendor. There is no moral high ground with this particular subject. Treating this company like they owe you something more than game time is ridiculous.
Of course, this was all under the assumption that you are taking all of this serious, which appears to be the case. In the slight chance that I was just out-trolled, +1 sir, +1
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Singeabooty Raj
Marcabian 5th Invasion Fleet
HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2011.08.29 17:48:00 -
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Lol CCP call that a patch. It's a whole pile of non-spaceship, candy floss poop.
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Vertisce Soritenshi
SHADOW WARD
Tragedy.
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Posted - 2011.08.29 18:02:00 -
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Originally by: Singeabooty Raj
Lol CCP call that a patch. It's a whole pile of non-spaceship, candy floss poop.
Yes...this is a "PATCH" not an "EXPANSION". Patches fix issues not release content. Get over it. The next content expansion isn't till the end of the year.
Whiners will whine.
I am looking forward to seeing how well CarbonIO really works CCP. Hoping for the best on this one.
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Mining And Probing Specialists
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Posted - 2011.08.29 18:05:00 -
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I don't know about the rest of you but I'm happy with the upcoming patch.
According to patch notes it's good one and fixes lots of stuff. (lag, docking, drones)
So stop buttkicking, they do what we asked for.
Thank you very much developers.
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Karl Planck
Labyrinth Obtaining Chaotic Kangaroos
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Posted - 2011.08.29 18:06:00 -
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Originally by: Singeabooty Raj
Lol CCP call that a patch. It's a whole pile of non-spaceship, candy floss poop.
Says the man with goggles....
lololololololol
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Salpun
Gallente
Paramount Commerce
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Posted - 2011.08.29 18:22:00 -
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This feels like a pre patch to a patch All I can say is hurry up CCP lets get these prep patches out of the way so we can get some more BFF changes and other expanded content out to the players so we can be excited about EVE again.
At least state what the hold up is so we can rally around a common cause.
Execute the Plan and be quick about it
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Abrazzar
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Posted - 2011.08.29 19:04:00 -
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This patch follows a similar pattern as the expansion: Little real content, but quite a few background things, spiced with a bunch of interesting fixes. I think they introduced the NeX stuff prior to the patch, just to reduce the impact on the raging levels.
So with all this background work done, can we have a foreground content expansion this winter?
I'd really hate having to put the 'Done for' ticker on EVE. 
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Posted - 2011.08.29 19:27:00 -
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ahem best part the pacth is now a no no lol ...
òCarbonIO has been activated on the game client. More information regarding CarbonIO and our future plans can be found here CarbonIO will continue to work on the server but will not be activated in the client during this patch but is scheduled for a future deployment.
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Ishtanchuk Fazmarai
Amarr
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Posted - 2011.08.29 19:30:00 -
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Nice, now we got better screens and icons in our HORRIBLY LIGHTED CQ, so we can look at better screenies and icons meanwhile AWFUL SHADOWS DISFIGURE our avatars.
CCP at its best, fix what ain't broken and let the elephant keep wreaking havoc all over the room.
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Singeabooty Raj
Marcabian 5th Invasion Fleet
HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2011.08.29 19:34:00 -
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Originally by: Vertisce Soritenshi
Originally by: Singeabooty Raj
Lol CCP call that a patch. It's a whole pile of non-spaceship, candy floss poop.
Yes...this is a "PATCH" not an "EXPANSION". Patches fix issues not release content. Get over it. The next content expansion isn't till the end of the year.
Whiners will whine.
I am looking forward to seeing how well CarbonIO really works CCP. Hoping for the best on this one.
Originally by: Ishtanchuk Fazmarai
CCP at its best, fix what ain't broken and let the elephant keep wreaking havoc all over the room.
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Gnulpie
Minmatar
Miner Tech
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Posted - 2011.08.29 19:52:00 -
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Yay
CarbonIO, woot woot
That should hsve been prepared a bit more. With BOLD letters and COWBELLS - lots of cowbells!
If it is really as good as the devblog says it is, then it is a gigantic leap forwards.
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Posted - 2011.08.29 19:59:00 -
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Originally by: Gnulpie
Yay
CarbonIO, woot woot
That should hsve been prepared a bit more. With BOLD letters and COWBELLS - lots of cowbells!
If it is really as good as the devblog says it is, then it is a gigantic leap forwards.
Let's hope it is going to be a smooth transaction.
Originally by: 010101010101
ahem best part the pacth is now a no no lol ...
òCarbonIO has been activated on the game client. More information regarding CarbonIO and our future plans can be found here CarbonIO will continue to work on the server but will not be activated in the client during this patch but is scheduled for a future deployment.
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Farrisen
Caldari
MoaR ChickeN
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Posted - 2011.08.29 20:51:00 -
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Edited by: Farrisen on 29/08/2011 20:52:07
There's ONE good thing in there, and that's the Session Change timer changes..
Oh and the drone crap (thank god)
But what the hell, the rest?
I don't know, this Is getting just "meh", I guess I'll see what the hell happens around winter *sigh*
Originally by: CCP Spitfire
It's because of falcon.
Originally by: Korinne
People used to say that Incarna would come out when Duke Nukem Forever comes out.
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coolzero
Gallente
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Posted - 2011.08.29 21:17:00 -
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Edited by: coolzero on 29/08/2011 21:17:52
Originally by: Ishtanchuk Fazmarai
Nice, now we got better screens and icons in our HORRIBLY LIGHTED CQ, so we can look at better screenies and icons meanwhile AWFUL SHADOWS DISFIGURE our avatars.
CCP at its best, fix what ain't broken and let the elephant keep wreaking havoc all over the room.
who cares about that....they make everything better looking as you say better schreens better icons
WHAT ABOUT THE FREAKING FONTS do something about the readability of EVE with anything better then a 22 inch screen (X-X)
always the shiny stuff never the needed stuff "sigh"
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