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Black Dranzer
Caldari
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Posted - 2011.09.01 16:16:00 -
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Well, it's been a couple of months since Incarna hit, and now that we've had plenty of time to mull over it, I'm actually curious as to STATISTICS.
What's your opinion of Incarna? Keeping in mind, when I refer to Incarna, I refer strictly to the CQ part, not the turrets or any other part of the patch.
1: Bad
2: Poor
3: Average
4: Good
5: Great
In the name of not biasing the audience, I'll refrain from giving my own opinion. Also, don't bring in your alts to vote; This is about collecting opinions, not ****waving.
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Seren Padac
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Posted - 2011.09.01 16:18:00 -
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1/5
Its been an novelty since the start. I know it will be better with a multiplayer aspect however I expected that by the end of the summer. Not in 18 months but such is the way of eve.
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Mors Magne
Astral Adventure
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Posted - 2011.09.01 16:20:00 -
[3]
1 at the moment, but when 'establishments' comes out it could get a 5.
Basically, we should wait and reserve judgement - I'm hopeful it will turn out well.
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Liquid Drops
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Posted - 2011.09.01 16:20:00 -
[4]
1/5 |
Bootleg Jack
Potters Field
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Posted - 2011.09.01 16:21:00 -
[5]
5, they finally showed they can do more than Windows dialogs, fancy icons and jpegs.
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lou1se
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Posted - 2011.09.01 16:23:00 -
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2
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Dee Luxx
Gallente
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Posted - 2011.09.01 16:26:00 -
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5 - I am honestly looking forward to what this will hold for the future. I see it as just a first step, an awkward first step, but a first step none the less. I envision RP meetings within dark conference rooms between corps and whatnot, etc, etc.. I enjoy RP and diplomacy, not just pew pew. I can get that anywhere.
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Etheoma
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Posted - 2011.09.01 16:29:00 -
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2/5
But lets be honest here its not finished captains quarters is just supposed to collect information on how incarna runs on peoples machines without muddying it up with being in the same room as 50 other people but i do like the new avatars in the images they look way better
than the old once but so far that's why it got Poor rather than bad at this moment in time, but they need to work on optimizing it and also making interaction with your ship while in captain quarters not so cumbersome.
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Aldan Romar
Amarr
Imperial Academy
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Posted - 2011.09.01 16:29:00 -
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3 - A good beginning.
Would be 4 if not for the hardware issues.
Is 5 for the single aspect of avatar recustomisation and the NEX.
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Palovana
Caldari
Inner Fire Inc.
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Posted - 2011.09.01 16:30:00 -
[10]
1/4
(that's not "one out of four" but an indication of how finished it is: 25%)
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Mendolus
Aurelius Federation
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Posted - 2011.09.01 16:30:00 -
[11]
Edited by: Mendolus on 01/09/2011 16:33:00
3/5
I can see where they are trying to go with the graphics engine, but what they have done so far is average, even though the code that runs it seems far ahead of its time, at this point I am more concerned with the ability to actually produce the content itself in large enough quantities to satisfy the game itself, i.e. I am at least marginally concerned that most of the fun bits they develop will end up in WoD instead of EVE, but if that means the EVE teams get back to spaceships faster, so be it.
I think most non-programmers have the impression that lighting effects and the coding that applies them are integral with the actual code that creates the objects themselves, this could not be farther from the truth, the lighting effects are algorithms and formulas that are applied to the objects, not the other way around.
The actual avatars themselves are pretty advanced compared to most of what you have elsewhere, and don't gimme that crap about shooters or whatever, I am talking about the dynamic movement they are doing with strands of hair, clothing, etc. that stuff is where they have been focusing, they have been showcasing exactly that for years, and that is where they are trying to do some trend setting in the industry, by creating something that has not been wholly sussed out yet, i.e. low level particle physics applied to ambient elements, such as hair, clothing, etc (the kind of stuff you see and get from modern games like BF2 for instance, destructible environments, etc. is still relatively new stuff, before all you would get are stains on the walls that would last for some designated time you set on your client in some designated quantity, now the entire wall collapses, and stays that way, couple years ago you would have been hard pressed to find a lot of modern games doing that). they are trying to bring the physics engine to even more elements of your typical fare when it comes to avatar games. I just wish they had done this for WoD itself, and not for EVE, I would have been more than pleased if they purchased licensing rights to use an existing graphics engine from any modern shooter, and just gave us shooter avatars that walked and ran around in circles and could move their arms and heads around, and that's it.
But they decided to try to capitalize on what they wanted to do with WoD but doing it for EVE first... to me this makes sense, but I wish it hadn't been done this way, we would have had WiS years ago if they just used a common engine and slapped new skins on the avatars, and called it a night.
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JackStraw56
Bayesian Motion
Knights of Tomorrow
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Posted - 2011.09.01 16:31:00 -
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1/5 I would rather the "update" had never occurred. Maybe they will change this with future updates, but for now, it's a step backward.
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Tobias Sjodin
Habitual Euthanasia
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2011.09.01 16:34:00 -
[13]
1/5 - I'm mostly tired of two things: CCP not delivering and players whining.
HABIT
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Suitonia
Gallente
Genos Occidere
HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2011.09.01 16:37:00 -
[14]
1/5.
The decision to completely drop the old hanger view after stonewalling all the players concerns about it for 2 months after Incarna release has me really disappointed.
Incarna has added nothing but disappointment for me.
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Pablo Amadeus Zekairra
Caldari
State War Academy
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Posted - 2011.09.01 16:38:00 -
[15]
0/5
I cant believe within a second of logging in PI is ****ed up, station dock crash, gas giants still have render glitch and character re-custome crashes client.
I want my money back and that's all I am going to say until it is returned.
3 months of this crashing on a game I paid for and I pay for two accounts.
House of Kahn on the Web-matrix
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Manfred Sideous
Body Count Inc.
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2011.09.01 16:43:00 -
[16]
1/5
Has added no content to the game is a resource hog on gpu's. I don't know of many people who actually use it. I mean I guess if the whole sci-fi genre is a draw to you then perhaps but imo KOTR will do that better than Eve so whats the point. CCP needs to realize that Eve's strengths are full loss pvp with real diverse economy and player scripted content that is only dependent on good mechanics/tools from the game in which to create said content. CCP's efforts should be focused on cultivating interaction between players at all levels. So we have more reasons more ways to generate content amongst ourselves. That is what make Eve a winner and will increase there financial gain.
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Ager Agemo
Caldari
Care Factor
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Posted - 2011.09.01 16:51:00 -
[17]
-5/5
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stoicfaux
Gallente
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Posted - 2011.09.01 16:53:00 -
[18]
Edited by: stoicfaux on 01/09/2011 16:54:06
1/5 It's incomplete and it reduced functionality. And it had about 5 minutes of "fun" factor before I turned it off.
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Affordable: One PLEX
Mid: 3-4 PLEX
Deluxe: Only for "flamboyantly rich capsuleers"
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BLACK-STAR
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Posted - 2011.09.01 16:58:00 -
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1/5
this thing is a drawback as it is now, serious problems and that are very annoying problems.
by the way, CQ nuked me a very good nvidia card, that was a lot of money burned and the replacement too was not cheap. annoyed and a bit disappointed.
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Alexzia Sevic
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Posted - 2011.09.01 16:59:00 -
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Edited by: Alexzia Sevic on 01/09/2011 17:00:08
Another one of these posts 
Let me add something that anyone with a college degree have known to put as a disclaimer. If your actually interested about STATISTICS
'This poll is non-scientific. This is most definitely NOT a random sample of the EvE population. The uniqueness of each response cannot be verified. As such, no inference should be taken from this poll as to how the actual playerbase feels regarding the subject of the poll.'
You're not trying to show bias right?
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Tippia
Caldari
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2011.09.01 17:00:00 -
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0/5 ù Not released yet.
ùùù
ôIf you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡
you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.ö
ù Karath Piki
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Discrodia
Gallente
Symbiosis International
Moose Alliance
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Posted - 2011.09.01 17:01:00 -
[22]
 Originally by: Alexzia Sevic
Edited by: Alexzia Sevic on 01/09/2011 17:00:08
Another one of these posts
Let me add something that anyone with a college degree have known to put as a disclaimer. If your actually interested about STATISTICS
'This poll is non-scientific. This is most definitely NOT a random sample of the EvE population. The uniqueness of each response cannot be verified. As such, no inference should be taken from this poll as to how the actual playerbase feels regarding the subject of the poll.'
You're not trying to show bias right?
I bet you're also looking at what we're doing and ignoring what we're saying, amirite?
Quote:
Blood for the blood god! Skulls for the skull throne! Milk for the khorne flakes!
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Alexzia Sevic
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Posted - 2011.09.01 17:04:00 -
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Edited by: Alexzia Sevic on 01/09/2011 17:05:16
Originally by: Discrodia
Originally by: Alexzia Sevic
Edited by: Alexzia Sevic on 01/09/2011 17:00:08
Another one of these posts
Let me add something that anyone with a college degree have known to put as a disclaimer. If your actually interested about STATISTICS
'This poll is non-scientific. This is most definitely NOT a random sample of the EvE population. The uniqueness of each response cannot be verified. As such, no inference should be taken from this poll as to how the actual playerbase feels regarding the subject of the poll.'
You're not trying to show bias right?
I bet you're also looking at what we're doing and ignoring what we're saying, amirite?
Thats pretty much it. If you understood my post, you would understand why I don't care. Polls don't mean anything unless they are drawn from a representative sample.
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ELWhappo Sanchez
Minmatar
Republic University
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Posted - 2011.09.01 17:05:00 -
[24]
4/5
i like what i see so far and look forward to what they'll do in the future.
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Black Dranzer
Caldari
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Posted - 2011.09.01 17:07:00 -
[25]
Originally by: Alexzia Sevic
'This poll is non-scientific. This is most definitely NOT a random sample of the EvE population. The uniqueness of each response cannot be verified. As such, no inference should be taken from this pole as to how the actual playerbase feels regarding the subject of the poll.'
It's a good thing I don't need such a disclaimer seeing as I'm collecting data rather than publishing statistics, isn't it?
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A Little Girl
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Posted - 2011.09.01 17:08:00 -
[26]
This thread does not have enough monoclelols. I summon Monocles!
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Alexzia Sevic
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Posted - 2011.09.01 17:10:00 -
[27]
Originally by: Black Dranzer
Originally by: Alexzia Sevic
'This poll is non-scientific. This is most definitely NOT a random sample of the EvE population. The uniqueness of each response cannot be verified. As such, no inference should be taken from this pole as to how the actual playerbase feels regarding the subject of the poll.'
It's a good thing I don't need such a disclaimer seeing as I'm collecting data rather than publishing statistics, isn't it?
You do know that all data has statistics associated with it right? And you did say you are interested in statistics. Do I need to quote it for you?
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Information Agent
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Posted - 2011.09.01 17:11:00 -
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Dated graphics.
Lighting incorrect.
Lack of functionality.
Lore breaking.
Wrong genre.
Long loading time.
Unoptimized.
High gpu requirements.
Rolled out in a rush.
Glitchy.
So, 1/5. Should have been optimized, tested and polished a lot more prior to release even if it is totally out of place.
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Vicar2008
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Posted - 2011.09.01 17:12:00 -
[29]
0 = Shi......
ok that wasnt an option,
1
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Discrodia
Gallente
Symbiosis International
Moose Alliance
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Posted - 2011.09.01 17:13:00 -
[30]
Originally by: A Little Girl
This thread does not have enough monoclelols. I summon Monocles!
That'll be 70k Aurum. Have a nice day!
Quote:
Blood for the blood god! Skulls for the skull throne! Milk for the khorne flakes!
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Abrazzar
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Posted - 2011.09.01 17:14:00 -
[31]
I rate it [-] out of 5.
It was pretty pointless.
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Achaikos
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Posted - 2011.09.01 17:15:00 -
[32]
0/5
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Black Dranzer
Caldari
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Posted - 2011.09.01 17:15:00 -
[33]
Originally by: Alexzia Sevic
You do know that all data has statistics associated with it right? And you did say you are interested in statistics. Do I need to quote it for you?
Yes, but that's not the point.
It is standard fare to post a disclaimer about the accuracy of my sample and details about the data, if I were publishing statistics. However, in this thread, I am not actually publishing statistics. I am collecting data. There is no need for me to add such a disclaimer, because I make no claims about the validity of the data, or seek to draw any conclusions from the data. I'm just collecting data based on an inquiry.
Since I'm not publishing, claiming the validity of, or drawing conclusions from the data, your disclaimer has no place in my post.
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Ronald Ray Gun
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Posted - 2011.09.01 17:17:00 -
[34]
0/5
I would have given it 1/5 but forcing people to leave their ship to experience this is just plain dumb. |
Alexzia Sevic
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Posted - 2011.09.01 17:21:00 -
[35]
Originally by: Black Dranzer
Originally by: Alexzia Sevic
You do know that all data has statistics associated with it right? And you did say you are interested in statistics. Do I need to quote it for you?
Yes, but that's not the point.
It is standard fare to post a disclaimer about the accuracy of my sample and details about the data, if I were publishing statistics. However, in this thread, I am not actually publishing statistics. I am collecting data. There is no need for me to add such a disclaimer, because I make no claims about the validity of the data, or seek to draw any conclusions from the data. I'm just collecting data based on an inquiry.
Since I'm not publishing, claiming the validity of, or drawing conclusions from the data, your disclaimer has no place in my post.
Actually if you just added that it would be fine. But your omission in the first places leaves room for speculation.
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Rhaegor Stormborn
BURN EDEN
Northern Coalition.
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Posted - 2011.09.01 17:21:00 -
[36]
-2.9
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Telvani
Crouching Woman Hidden Cucumber
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Posted - 2011.09.01 17:22:00 -
[37]
I'd give it a 1/5 if it was optional and didnt make the whole client run worse (even with CQ off)
Seen as it actually reduced functionality and is no longer playable on my laptop I'll give it a 0/5
I quite honestly wish it had never happened.
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dgastuffz
Caldari
Hell's Revenge
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Posted - 2011.09.01 17:25:00 -
[38]
1/5
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Smoking Blunts
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Posted - 2011.09.01 17:27:00 -
[39]
-1
or 0 if i have to
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Lors Dornick
Caldari
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Posted - 2011.09.01 17:30:00 -
[40]
0/5 since we've only got a tech demo so far.
Might be good when they actually release something.
// Lors |
Hakaru Ishiwara
Minmatar
Republic Military School
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Posted - 2011.09.01 17:31:00 -
[41]
1/5
Incarna was made public too early. Zero interaction with other players outside of existing mechanisms and a very high hardware utilization rate *just* to exit a ship and walk around a [Minmatar] room?
I have gone the way of The Door as CQ is a complete waste of my system resources and the extra power they use.
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das licht
Gallente
Echtzeit AG
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Posted - 2011.09.01 17:31:00 -
[42]
1/5 for that work.
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Ciar Meara
Amarr
Virtus Vindice
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Posted - 2011.09.01 17:32:00 -
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Originally by: Palovana
1/4
(that's not "one out of four" but an indication of how finished it is: 25%)
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English only please. Zymurgist |
rootimus maximus
Caldari
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Posted - 2011.09.01 17:33:00 -
[44]
Originally by: Tippia
0/5 ù Not released yet.
What he said.
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I don't think we should complain about it... or CCP may try to fix it and OMG!!!... no, not good... |
Black Dranzer
Caldari
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Posted - 2011.09.01 17:35:00 -
[45]
Originally by: Alexzia Sevic
Actually if you just added that it would be fine. But your omission in the first places leaves room for speculation.
The fact that others may collect raw data from this thread and draw their own conclusions is completely irrelevant. I am under no obligation to ensure that others do not perform their own inaccurate statistical analysis.
In fact, even if I'd gone so far as to collect all the data in this thread and publish the mean, median and mode of the data, I still wouldn't be under any obligation to put your disclaimer in my post, because I would still not be attempting to draw any conclusions from the actual data.
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N1gella Laws0n
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Posted - 2011.09.01 17:35:00 -
[46]
1. Bad
2. Poor.
But....
Incarna is both bad and poor... I don't get it... |
Alexzia Sevic
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Posted - 2011.09.01 17:47:00 -
[47]
Edited by: Alexzia Sevic on 01/09/2011 17:48:25
Originally by: Black Dranzer
Originally by: Alexzia Sevic
Actually if you just added that it would be fine. But your omission in the first places leaves room for speculation.
The fact that others may collect raw data from this thread and draw their own conclusions is completely irrelevant. I am under no obligation to ensure that others do not perform their own inaccurate statistical analysis.
In fact, even if I'd gone so far as to collect all the data in this thread and publish the mean, median and mode of the data, I still wouldn't be under any obligation to put your disclaimer in my post, because I would still not be attempting to draw any conclusions from the actual data.
You're saying that if you did publish data that had questionable origins that you would not feel the need to state that? Do you actually care what information you're getting? Or is this thread just another guise to troll on incarna?
I'm just going to say that not only are your collection techniques invalid, but every post is biased by the time its gets posted, as the authors eyes scroll across every post on the way down to press reply. You may have protected the first reply by not giving your own score, but every subsequent one was not.
If you were actually interested in people's opinion you would put that you know its not scientific, or valid. You might actually get people who do like incarna to post in here, as they think it would be genuine. But sadly, the original post just comes across as another effort to incite discontent with the latest expansion, so the people that may support it just hit the back button rather then wade through the chorus of tears.
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Black Dranzer
Caldari
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Posted - 2011.09.01 17:58:00 -
[48]
Originally by: Alexzia Sevic
You're saying that if you did publish data that had questionable origins that you would not feel the need to state that? Do you actually care what information you're getting? Or is this thread just another guise to troll on incarna?
I'm just going to say that not only are your collection techniques invalid, but every post is biased by the time its gets posted, as the authors eyes scroll across every post on the way down to press reply. You may have protected the first reply by not giving your own score, but every subsequent one was not.
If you were actually interested in people's opinion you would put that you know its not scientific, or valid. You might actually get people who do like incarna to post in here, as they think it would be genuine. But sadly, the original post just comes across as another effort to incite discontent with the latest expansion, so the people that may support it just hit the back button rather then wade through the chorus of tears.
The efficiency of my data collection techniques depends entirely on the purposes that I intend to use the data for.
I could've given my thoughts about Incarna in the first post, but I didn't, because if I had, I would have run the risk that people would argue with my opinion rather than providing the data I was interested in. It might also have discouraged people from voicing their opinion (or encouraged them to voice an opposing opinion) based on the opinion I had posted, on the grounds that "this is an anti-incarna thread", or "this is a pro-incarna thread".
But you did not come in here with the intent of ensuring that I provide accurate statistical analysis, you came here with the intent of mouthing off and discouraging people from voicing negative opinions about Incarna. While doing this, you made a thinly veiled attempt to sound unbiased by trying to sound intellectual. Unfortunately, perhaps because your judgement was clouded by your personal feelings, or perhaps because you're not as smart as you pretend to be, you failed to draw a distinction between data sampling and data analysis. As a result, you looked like a tool, and now you're trying to save face as best you can. You're not doing a very good job of it.
So if you would be so very kind, please either respond to the poll or get the hell out of my thread.
Thanks.
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Nomad Vherokic
Minmatar
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Posted - 2011.09.01 18:01:00 -
[49]
0/5 for both useless thread and Incarnation... I'd rather hit myself repeatedly with a tin of condensed milk...
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Sader Rykane
Amarr
The Dark Space Initiative
Revival Of The Talocan Empire
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Posted - 2011.09.01 18:05:00 -
[50]
1
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Ingvar Angst
Amarr
Nasty Pope Holding Corp
Talocan United
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Posted - 2011.09.01 18:08:00 -
[51]
Not rated. Incarna has had no effect on the wormhole way of life, aside from a little more time wasted on those rare trips to K-space, and that's not enough data to rate with.
Monocles are so two weeks ago.
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Wookie 1
Caldari
Nex Exercitus
Raiden.
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Posted - 2011.09.01 18:12:00 -
[52]
1/5 using your grading system. However its more 0/5 Unbelieveably awful
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The Offerer
Minmatar
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Posted - 2011.09.01 18:25:00 -
[53]
1/5
CQ doesn't exist. There's only "The Door" for me (and a lot of features that were removed, like opening cargohold of an active ship by double clicking empty space or making ship active by drag-and-drop method). |
Ralon Perzine
Minmatar
Republic Military School
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Posted - 2011.09.01 18:31:00 -
[54]
I came back to EVE for Incarna, I think I'm the target audience that CCP was shotting for. I could never feel like the ship floating in ship was me, I've always had an avatar to look at in other MMO's. I really liked the new character creator when it launched...but
1/5
This is not the Incarna I was looking for. One room and forced to disembark everytime you dock...sorry not what I wanted at all.
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Alexzia Sevic
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Posted - 2011.09.01 18:31:00 -
[55]
Originally by: Black Dranzer
Originally by: Alexzia Sevic
You're saying that if you did publish data that had questionable origins that you would not feel the need to state that? Do you actually care what information you're getting? Or is this thread just another guise to troll on incarna?
I'm just going to say that not only are your collection techniques invalid, but every post is biased by the time its gets posted, as the authors eyes scroll across every post on the way down to press reply. You may have protected the first reply by not giving your own score, but every subsequent one was not.
If you were actually interested in people's opinion you would put that you know its not scientific, or valid. You might actually get people who do like incarna to post in here, as they think it would be genuine. But sadly, the original post just comes across as another effort to incite discontent with the latest expansion, so the people that may support it just hit the back button rather then wade through the chorus of tears.
The efficiency of my data collection techniques depends entirely on the purposes that I intend to use the data for.
I could've given my thoughts about Incarna in the first post, but I didn't, because if I had, I would have run the risk that people would argue with my opinion rather than providing the data I was interested in. It might also have discouraged people from voicing their opinion (or encouraged them to voice an opposing opinion) based on the opinion I had posted, on the grounds that "this is an anti-incarna thread", or "this is a pro-incarna thread".
But you did not come in here with the intent of ensuring that I provide accurate statistical analysis, you came here with the intent of mouthing off and discouraging people from voicing negative opinions about Incarna. While doing this, you made a thinly veiled attempt to sound unbiased by trying to sound intellectual. Unfortunately, perhaps because your judgement was clouded by your personal feelings, or perhaps because you're not as smart as you pretend to be, you failed to draw a distinction between data sampling and data analysis. As a result, you looked like a tool, and now you're trying to save face as best you can. You're not doing a very good job of it.
So if you would be so very kind, please either respond to the poll or get the hell out of my thread.
Thanks.
I spend 98% of my time in WH space, so I don't even get to see the inside of stations. So honestly, I don't care what the expansion did. Go ahead, check my alliance. See what we do. The only thing I got out of incarna was new turrets. WiS couldn't have less of an effect on how I play eve. No my purpose in here was to insure that some level of intellectual integrity remains on these forums.
You're right in not posting your opinion. That would have 100% biased the thread one way or another. My point was every time someone else reads a reply, they get biased. Its been well documented that people will go along with what they think the group wants to do.
I don't know where you think I can't draw a distinction between data collection and data analysis. My point all along is that if you wanted to have a proper analysis, this isn't the method to do it. If you don't care about the analysis, as you say, then why collect the data at all? You may as well just go into a random number generator and get data that way. But you do care where the data comes from, else why make this thread? So you do want to do some analysis on it. Even if just your eyes view it, your deluding yourself to think it means anything.
For the 2% of time I do spend in stations: 3/5 for incarna. -1 for shadow bugs, -1 because I can't right click anywhere in space and access a menu like in the old hanger. There you have it!
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Steph Wing
Gallente
The Graduates
Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2011.09.01 18:34:00 -
[56]
1/5
+ All the racial CQs would bring this to a 2/5
+ Establishments would make this a 3/5
+ Ship Spinning back would make this a 4/5
Not having wasted :18months: of art assets on this would make it a 5/5 tbh
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Lord Kreza
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Posted - 2011.09.01 18:35:00 -
[57]
1/5
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Black Dranzer
Caldari
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Posted - 2011.09.01 18:41:00 -
[58]
Originally by: Alexzia Sevic
No my purpose in here was to insure that some level of intellectual integrity remains on these forums.
I will simply say that I don't believe you and leave it at that.
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My point was every time someone else reads a reply, they get biased. Its been well documented that people will go along with what they think the group wants to do.
I doubt their opinions are going to be changed simply by reading this thread. Peoples opinions have probably settled down by this point, hence the "it's been a couple of months". And yes, technically every post in this thread will bias a person, and every post on the forums, and every opinion ever spouted by an in-game member and their own personal views on politics and all that other crap will bias a person. The point of this exercise was to gather opinions, not to speculate on how people grew to develop those opinions.
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I don't know where you think I can't draw a distinction between data collection and data analysis.
Because you suggested I stick a disclaimer in my original post, but that disclaimer would only have made sense if I were actually publishing statistics.
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3/5
Thank you for your contribution!
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Pablo Amadeus Zekairra
Caldari
State War Academy
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Posted - 2011.09.01 18:43:00 -
[59]
Originally by: Discrodia
Originally by: A Little Girl
This thread does not have enough monoclelols. I summon Monocles!
That'll be 70k Aurum. Have a nice day!
your crazy I say 100bil Aurum per month we have to endure through glitchy software and half ass DEV statements that dont even come scratch the surface of the issue.
with the way AuR prices are 70k aur is an even bigger rip off.
GIVE ME MY MONEY!
House of Kahn on the Web-matrix
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Foofad
Gallente
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Posted - 2011.09.01 18:47:00 -
[60]
4/5 - One star lost due to prices of cash shop items.
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The Offerer
Minmatar
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Posted - 2011.09.01 18:52:00 -
[61]
Originally by: Alexzia Sevic
My point was every time someone else reads a reply, they get biased.
The influence of other posters on the forum is minor when you can play F.E.A.R. with full graphics at 25-30 FPS, but you can only get max 5 FPS for one single room with one single character in it with lowest settings possible.
The OP's question was about CQ part of the game and honestly - it doesn't exist. They have forced the deployment of unfinished product and managed to remove widely used features from in-station interface in the process while not even thinking about possible solutions and replacements for the old features. Other forum posters can not influence the results that much. |
Alexzia Sevic
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Posted - 2011.09.01 18:54:00 -
[62]
Quote:
I don't know where you think I can't draw a distinction between data collection and data analysis.
Because you suggested I stick a disclaimer in my original post, but that disclaimer would only have made sense if I were actually publishing statistics.
You're half right. You would need it if you were publishing statistics and analysis. But my intent in suggesting the disclaimer was also to get you to think about how the data was being collected.
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Zleon Leigh
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Posted - 2011.09.01 18:56:00 -
[63]
Originally by: A Little Girl
This thread does not have enough monoclelols. I summon Monocles!
WoW, fail....
0/5
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Reilly Duvolle
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Posted - 2011.09.01 18:57:00 -
[64]
I started playing in Revelations II, so Incarna is my 8th expansion. I have seen a couple of great ones (Trinity, Apocrypha), a couple of good ones (Quantum Rise, Dominion) and some average ones (Empyrean Age, Tyrannis, Incursion) . Well, Tyrannis was acutally borderline poor.
However, Incarna is the first expansion in EVE history i am not hesitating to give 1/5. Awful. Its no other way of putting it. Funny to think of, when I used to be very exited about Incarna...
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Zela Kahn
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Posted - 2011.09.01 18:58:00 -
[65]
Edited by: Zela Kahn on 01/09/2011 18:58:59
Originally by: The Offerer
Originally by: Alexzia Sevic
My point was every time someone else reads a reply, they get biased.
The influence of other posters on the forum is minor when you can play F.E.A.R. with full graphics at 25-30 FPS, but you can only get max 5 FPS for one single room with one single character in it with lowest settings possible.
The OP's question was about CQ part of the game and honestly - it doesn't exist. They have forced the deployment of unfinished product and managed to remove widely used features from in-station interface in the process while not even thinking about possible solutions and replacements for the old features. Other forum posters can not influence the results that much.
^5/5 response right there.***
0/0 for incarna 1.1= never even happened.
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Black Dranzer
Caldari
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Posted - 2011.09.01 19:04:00 -
[66]
Originally by: Alexzia Sevic
You're half right. You would need it if you were publishing statistics and analysis. But my intent in suggesting the disclaimer was also to get you to think about how the data was being collected.
That was not the impression your post gave me.
But I will concede that you are right. The data here, if used in statistical analysis, would be subject to all kinds of ifs and buts. As is most data, honestly.
But I was explicitly interested in seeking public opinion of forum members. If I could study CCP's data directly, I would. For the record, statistics I'd be interested in:
How many people have CQ disabled
How many people even know how to disable CQ
Graphs detailing player activity, specifically how much people were online on average and docked on average both before and after Incarna
Cash shop data
.. And much much more. Unfortunately, the best I have at this time is a messy forum poll. I wanted to try and eliminate as much noise as possible. This was my best option.
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Ydnari
Gallente
Estrale Frontiers
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Posted - 2011.09.01 19:06:00 -
[67]
1: Bad
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Zela Kahn
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Posted - 2011.09.01 19:10:00 -
[68]
Edited by: Zela Kahn on 01/09/2011 19:12:03
Originally by: Foofad
4/5 - One star lost due to prices of cash shop items.
I say riot if things dont get better.
dont make me have to use the force.
HOUSE OF KAHN [NOT A HAPPY CAMPER]
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Herping yourDerp
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Posted - 2011.09.01 19:17:00 -
[69]
1/5
what the community wants are simple, we want old hanger + button to enter CQ. give us this and it would be 2/5 not everyone wants the lagmonster or door pictue
optimize cq so it isnt a resource hog (would be 3/5)
the old turret icons should return, they looked 1000times better then the new ones (4/5)
NEX has become the laughing stock of MMO's with the macro transactions, also things u buy are not destroyable. not to mention there are plenty of other things that would have been better to put time into such as faction warfare and fighting botters and bugs.
(5/5 if this was all done)
Eve online next expansion details |
Cdkey Disabled
Amarr
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Posted - 2011.09.01 19:26:00 -
[70]
Very poor
BUT
Maybe its a step up and preparation for the future (which is what it looks like to me).
Its Better To Die Than Fade Away |
Ethan Bejorn
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2011.09.01 19:27:00 -
[71]
Originally by: Foofad
4/5 - One star lost due to prices of cash shop items.
Looooooooser!
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The Offerer
Minmatar
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Posted - 2011.09.01 19:30:00 -
[72]
Originally by: Cdkey Disabled
Very poor
BUT
Maybe its a step up and preparation for the future (which is what it looks like to me).
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ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors
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Posted - 2011.09.01 19:31:00 -
[73]
Edited by: ShahFluffers on 01/09/2011 19:32:29
1/5
They took away my hanger, forced me into a room I have no desire to be in (seriously? 6 years of development and THIS is the best they can do? Either release the whole finished product at once (or in intervals over a short period of time) or don't release it at all), introduced a Mircotransaction shop with hyper-inflated prices (slippery slope people), and haven't balanced any ships that everyone KNOWS needs to be nerfed/buffed/tinkered with.
_______________________
"Just because I seem like an idiot doesn't mean I am one."
~Unknown |
EL TITAN
Caldari
Red Sky Morning
BricK sQuAD.
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Posted - 2011.09.01 19:33:00 -
[74]
Originally by: Zela Kahn
Edited by: Zela Kahn on 01/09/2011 18:58:59
Originally by: The Offerer
Originally by: Alexzia Sevic
My point was every time someone else reads a reply, they get biased.
The influence of other posters on the forum is minor when you can play F.E.A.R. with full graphics at 25-30 FPS, but you can only get max 5 FPS for one single room with one single character in it with lowest settings possible.
The OP's question was about CQ part of the game and honestly - it doesn't exist. They have forced the deployment of unfinished product and managed to remove widely used features from in-station interface in the process while not even thinking about possible solutions and replacements for the old features. Other forum posters can not influence the results that much.
^5/5 response right there.***
0/0 for incarna 1.1= never even happened.
wow you take the words out of my mouth!
actually i should log back in to my wow account
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Alexzia Sevic
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Posted - 2011.09.01 19:48:00 -
[75]
Edited by: Alexzia Sevic on 01/09/2011 19:48:30
Originally by: Black Dranzer
Originally by: Alexzia Sevic
You're half right. You would need it if you were publishing statistics and analysis. But my intent in suggesting the disclaimer was also to get you to think about how the data was being collected.
That was not the impression your post gave me.
But I will concede that you are right. The data here, if used in statistical analysis, would be subject to all kinds of ifs and buts. As is most data, honestly.
But I was explicitly interested in seeking public opinion of forum members. If I could study CCP's data directly, I would. For the record, statistics I'd be interested in:
How many people have CQ disabled
How many people even know how to disable CQ
Graphs detailing player activity, specifically how much people were online on average and docked on average both before and after Incarna
Cash shop data
.. And much much more. Unfortunately, the best I have at this time is a messy forum poll. I wanted to try and eliminate as much noise as possible. This was my best option.
I agree I think that would be cool to look at. But CCPs not going to give it up. Because I would suspect it would confirm the viewpoints of 95% of the posts in this thread. And no one likes to release stuff that makes them look bad.
You might actually be able to get descent responses from those other questions. Obviously the graphs will be hard to come by. Maybe you could go into a newby system and ask those questions? Offer 1mil for responses. It might bias your results toward what new players think, as 1 mil isn't a lot to anyone thats been playing a long time and it might not be worth their time. Its not a perfect method, but its not a terrible one either.
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mechtech
SRS Industries
SRS.
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Posted - 2011.09.01 19:58:00 -
[76]
In its current state it's absolutely a 1/5 (I come on... it's a SINGLE ROOM ffs).
The multiplayer version, with bars, shops, gambling, corp meetings, and dynamic character animation, would be a 5/5 to me... Somehow I don't see it getting delivered like that though. Actually, I fully expect the in station real estate market to run on NeX, which would be very sad to me.
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EI Digin
Caldari
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2011.09.01 20:00:00 -
[77]
9001
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Sha Dar
eXceed Inc.
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Posted - 2011.09.01 20:02:00 -
[78]
0
The implementation, management decisions, fallout, handling of said fallout and current idiocy doesn't even rate it a 1 tbh.
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Narisa Bithon
Caldari
The Motley Crew Reborn
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Posted - 2011.09.01 20:02:00 -
[79]
1/5 so far its been very underwhelming
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Meryl SinGarda
Caldari
Belligerent Underpayed Tactical Team
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Posted - 2011.09.01 20:40:00 -
[80]
Edited by: Meryl SinGarda on 01/09/2011 20:41:37
10/5.
Not only do I finally get the beginning of a feature I've been waiting on since I originally opened a trial account back in '05, but this expansion has single-handedly unearthed all of the whiners whom are completely resistant to change, and hopefully, will cause them to return to whichever dead MMO they derive from. You know, that extremely small handful of games that never changed.
edit: And to the guy saying he can play F.E.A.R. on max settings. lolcakes, F.E.A.R. is how old? I can play 20 copies of F.E.A.R. on max settings.
Fly safe, Die hard |
Discrodia
Gallente
Symbiosis International
Moose Alliance
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Posted - 2011.09.01 21:22:00 -
[81]
Originally by: Meryl SinGarda
Edited by: Meryl SinGarda on 01/09/2011 20:41:37
10/5.
Not only do I finally get the beginning of a feature I've been waiting on since I originally opened a trial account back in '05, but this expansion has single-handedly unearthed all of the whiners whom are completely resistant to change, and hopefully, will cause them to return to whichever dead MMO they derive from. You know, that extremely small handful of games that never changed.
edit: And to the guy saying he can play F.E.A.R. on max settings. lolcakes, F.E.A.R. is how old? I can play 20 copies of F.E.A.R. on max settings.
Trolling comments: Hilmar is that you?
Also:
Non-trolling comment: There's a difference between a change for the better and a change for the worse, especially with MMO's, and compared to many MMO releases Incarnage was definitely a change for the worse.
Example of change for the better:
(One that I loath using) WoW's streamlining of group finding totally revamped finding instances after they released the second expansion, which was pretty much universally loved by both existing and new playerbase.
Example of change for the worse:
(One that I'm ashamed I fell for) CCP promised to give us Walking In Stations since before I started play ('07 if my memory stands). At first, it looked good enough, and there was a lot of optimism. Then the 'one more year' line started appearing. Ambulation/Incarna/WiS became something of a joke. Lo and behold, when they revamped the face gen for Incursion, Incarna was again talked about. There was a good amount of hope. CCP mentioned the possibility of clothing items for sale for RL money. Although grumbled about, most people assumed the stuff would be reasonably priced and still cool. Lo and behold, Incarna comes out, with all the much-touted interaction, customization, and coolness cut out. The NeX store is a disaster area, and not only is the whole thing underwhelming, but it removes most of the functionality from hangar view, it is dismally difficult to run, and there's no opt-out. Player rage ensues, something like 6k subs are cancelled, and CCP's damage control team fails utterly. I haven't heard if they've made the lost subs back from MT or new ones yet, but I highly doubt it.
And to your cute little edit, I believe he's referring to the latest FEAR game. IE, something that is comparable in detail to Incarna yet doesn't require the goddamn Monolith to run at decent framerates.
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Blood for the blood god! Skulls for the skull throne! Milk for the khorne flakes!
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RougeOperator
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Posted - 2011.09.01 22:31:00 -
[82]
Edited by: RougeOperator on 01/09/2011 22:35:07
1/5 As per OPs poll choices.
-5/5 for the CCP handling of the situation and PR responses and suspect ALTs posting. Same for CSM sycophants and brown nose crew. Insane pricing on NEX goods then LIEs LIEs LIEs and attitude that the customers are idiots and should just hand over money. Obvious BS PR stunts have ruined their reputation that had been rather good even recovered from t20 at that point.
They flushed it all for geed is good.
Remember Googles old "Do No Evil mantra". That ended up having one of the founders leave in protest of the direction it was going when they started on the "Greed is good" mentality themselves.
Pro Tip CCP you are not big enough to pull off a Google turn to, "evil is A-ok as long as we get lots of money" philosophy.
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Ghoest
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Posted - 2011.09.01 22:36:00 -
[83]
Edited by: Ghoest on 01/09/2011 22:37:11
Im confused. Even if you absolutely love the concept of Incarna and the Nex shop - how could you possibly think of Incarna as anything but a failure?
Were rating the result not the intent.
Wherever you went - Here you are.
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Valentina Valentia
Caldari
State War Academy
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Posted - 2011.09.01 22:37:00 -
[84]
-5/5
THIS IS A EPIC FAIL RATING...
I don't think it can get worse... until the next patch, which then it will be worse...
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Effete Noir - a wonderful virtual cologne for the discerning Pod-Pilot - 4500 Aur - BUY. |
Kiree Chancel
Phantom Squad
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Posted - 2011.09.01 22:51:00 -
[85]
1/5
--
Originally by: CCP Capslock
OH GOD THE TESTING
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Trainwreck McGee
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Posted - 2011.09.01 22:55:00 -
[86]
1/5 and 2/5
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Sister Bliss
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
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Posted - 2011.09.01 22:58:00 -
[87]
0/5
Incarna is utter crap and the biggest waste of investment and resources I have ever seen in any project inside/outside Eve. If the Incarna budget had been allocated to addressing actual Eve gameplay issues and content, I'd be confident the subscriber base would still be growing and we would still have a happy, positive and vibrant (not to mention profitable) community.
Instead there is almost universal disillusionment with a feeling that we are all living on borrowed time. The only constant we have from CCP is that 'investing in Eve is a good idea, but we have no plans for that at present'.
Short of a catastrophic failure brought about by sheer collapse of subscribers or a killer competitor coming to market, I'm not convinced CCP is ever going to 'get it' and will plough ahead regardless with their holier than though attitude, ignoring all customer feedback.
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Hossein Fahmideh
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Posted - 2011.09.01 23:03:00 -
[88]
0/5 for Content
1/5 for Quality
5/5 for the Lols
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Susitna
Caldari
The Tuskers
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Posted - 2011.09.01 23:19:00 -
[89]
1 bad
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Percival Gates
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Posted - 2011.09.01 23:33:00 -
[90]
1/5 - at least my boot.ini is still intact this time. For me, incarna has been more negative than positive. 
I just want two things:
1) I want station spinning back!
2) I want to be able to double click in the station to open my cargohold!!
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RougeOperator
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Posted - 2011.09.02 02:16:00 -
[91]
Originally by: Sister Bliss
0/5
I'd be confident the subscriber base would still be growing and we would still have a happy, [/b]
Hard to grow a subscriber base when you make a patch that will melt their graphics card due to shoddy programming.
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fatmanpaul
Royal Order of Security Specialists
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Posted - 2011.09.02 02:25:00 -
[92]
0/5
To those that sacrifice, we honor you....
I'm only as strong as my brother, therefore I ensure that my brother is strong.
Do the damn thing! At all times. In all places. At all cost...
NON C |
Vice Admiral Spreadsheet
Caldari
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Posted - 2011.09.02 02:26:00 -
[93]
4/5 - Disappoint by lack of other CQs, but a necessary step forward to CCP's exotic-dancer filled vision of EVE
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supersexysucker
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Posted - 2011.09.02 02:30:00 -
[94]
-2573
If my 470 runs 95% + just in the CQ... how is it gona render anything past the CQ? Not like a 470 is low end...
Crap... internet spacedressup.
Unless I can PVP in WiS wtf is the point of it...
Might give it a -100 if they turn the TV into a browser where I can play vids via the intertubs or hdd in the CQ.
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Panhead4411
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Posted - 2011.09.02 02:32:00 -
[95]
Originally by: Mendolus
Edited by: Mendolus on 01/09/2011 16:33:00
The actual avatars themselves are pretty advanced compared to most of what you have elsewhere, and don't gimme that crap about shooters or whatever, I am talking about the dynamic movement they are doing with strands of hair, clothing, etc. that stuff is where they have been focusing,
Cept most users have to turn their settings down so low they'll never know the difference...whats that say about how 'great' it is...when most of your user base turns the feature OFF.
i give it a 2, but thats mostly b/c of where it could go...2 hotpatches within hours of most recent patch....its trouble like this that i want to give it a 1.
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LeviUK
Black Omega Security
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2011.09.02 02:44:00 -
[96]
0/5 - There's a reason abortion is legal (in sane places).
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P42ALPHA
Gallente
Epidemic.
THE D0MINION
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Posted - 2011.09.02 02:46:00 -
[97]
Originally by: Tippia
0/5 ù Not released yet.
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Ladie Scarlet
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.09.02 02:47:00 -
[98]
Originally by: LeviUK
0/5 - There's a reason abortion is legal (in sane places).
Somebody from PL made a good post. I WAS THERE.
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Terminal Insanity
Minmatar
Convex Enterprises
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Posted - 2011.09.02 02:54:00 -
[99]
4/5
Woot!'s
- New turrets!
- First step towards WIS / Dust integration and is a good promise/proof that they ARE working on WIS.
- The new agent system
Meh's:
- NEX needs cooler **** then fancy dresses, we need to be able to make em fancy colors too. The monocle was hilarious. I think ccp should give out limited time items to people who attended certain ingame events, incursions etc. Let us wear our medals! LImited-time items have value in MMO's too, find reasons to give wearable unique items out more often! This would help release some stress from the nex-is-expensive crowd, as they'd have a chance at getting something unique as well, even things that chribba cant =p (and chribba really needs a veldspar hat or pin. seriously)
Arr's:
- load times seem to have suffered
- CQ's graphics on low settings and multiple monitors suffer from a transparent texture/invisible floor problem... at least on my evga gtx460
- Chribba doesnt have a "I <3 Veld" tshirt on his char.
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iErgo Proxy
Gallente
Brutal Deliverance
THE UNTHINKABLES
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Posted - 2011.09.02 02:58:00 -
[100]
1/5 - Incursion is a pile of **** compared to Revelation, for example.
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AnzacPaul
the united
Negative Ten.
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Posted - 2011.09.02 03:53:00 -
[101]
0/5. The removal of the simplest functions (double click cargo hold, drag to change ship, right click ship menu etc) is not only appalling, it shows that NONE OF THE DEVS ACTUALLY PLAY THE GAME PROPERLY ANYMORE. Otherwise they might have realise how completely ridiculous those simple changes were. 
______
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AmarrPriceStamp Lazair
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Posted - 2011.09.02 03:54:00 -
[102]
I am actually thinking about leaving EVE Online... Even I could make a better decision on game development than making this piece of s*** expansion. Seriously, what the f*** CCP?
Negative Infinite Out of 5
AKA
-∞ / 5 |
Eric Stratton
Re-Awakened Technologies Inc
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Posted - 2011.09.02 03:54:00 -
[103]
I think I'd give it 1/5 or maybe 2/5. I don't have a big hate on for Incarna, and I think the idea could be super cool. The initial Incarna roll out though... there just isn't anything there yet. I'm bad at remembering expansion names, but the ones that added the coolest features in my book were whichever one brought Faction Warfare (as messed up as it is, it did get me introduced to PVP and some small gang action), and the one which introduced Wormhole Space.
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Vorn Deerdan
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Posted - 2011.09.02 03:56:00 -
[104]
0
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Strawberry Shortcake69
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Posted - 2011.09.02 04:11:00 -
[105]
Originally by: Tippia
0/5 ù Not released yet.
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usrevenge
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Posted - 2011.09.02 04:15:00 -
[106]
if we had old hanger back it would be a 3/5
till then 1/5 on the best of days.
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Forum Worrier
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Posted - 2011.09.02 04:17:00 -
[107]
Originally by: AnzacPaul
0/5. The removal of the simplest functions (double click cargo hold, drag to change ship, right click ship menu etc) is not only appalling, it shows that NONE OF THE DEVS ACTUALLY PLAY THE GAME PROPERLY ANYMORE. Otherwise they might have realise how completely ridiculous those simple changes were.
Tip. People playing the game properly do these things quicker with shortcuts.
You're playing the game wrong.
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Cordelia Dauphine
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Posted - 2011.09.02 04:19:00 -
[108]
Male avatars all look the same. But I can make my boobs as big as I want. Strange...
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Issac Haydron
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Posted - 2011.09.02 04:21:00 -
[109]
1/5 pretty craptastic at this point MW3 is looking better....
Come on CCP, wtf? fix your game, and dont release half baked **** calling it the 'future' of eve
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Vaarkk
Caldari
Caldari Provisions - PvP Division
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Posted - 2011.09.02 04:29:00 -
[110]
Edited by: Vaarkk on 02/09/2011 04:34:00
Edited by: Vaarkk on 02/09/2011 04:32:19
This thread showed some promise until all the bittervets showed up and started the QQ fest. Funny how no one actually in game about Incarna, but the forums are full of kids crying about the damn door.
As for my vote, I'll give it a 3/5 for the potential of upcoming content, but I really wish CCP hadnt introduced MT... makes EVE start to feel like one of those crappy Free to Play MMOs.
Also why all the QQ about being badly optimized? I wasnt aware everyone here was in RED Alliance or some second world country with their integrated graphics and Pentium processors. Runs flawlessly on my HD5670...
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Khira Kitamatsu
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Posted - 2011.09.02 04:31:00 -
[111]
2/5
Still waiting on Incarna expansion. Still waiting on walking in stations. This expansion was terrible and CCP has failed to deliver.
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Mai Kusoni
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Posted - 2011.09.02 04:36:00 -
[112]
Originally by: Forum Worrier
Originally by: AnzacPaul
0/5. The removal of the simplest functions (double click cargo hold, drag to change ship, right click ship menu etc) is not only appalling, it shows that NONE OF THE DEVS ACTUALLY PLAY THE GAME PROPERLY ANYMORE. Otherwise they might have realise how completely ridiculous those simple changes were.
Tip. People playing the game properly do these things quicker with shortcuts.
You're playing the game wrong.
No kidding. I went into Options and Window Tab and set Open Cargo Hold of Active Ship to I (for inventory). Kind of intuitive and not too difficult. Considering the amount of time spent on these forums complaining about some extra clicks...
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Melisandra Palenis
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Posted - 2011.09.02 04:49:00 -
[113]
0/5 I dont have a CQ all I have is a door.
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Ethan Bejorn
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2011.09.02 05:05:00 -
[114]
Originally by: Terminal Insanity
4/5
Woot!'s
- First step towards WIS / Dust integration and is a good promise/proof that they ARE working on WIS.
Meh's:
- NEX needs cooler **** then fancy dresses, we need to be able to make em fancy colors too. The monocle was hilarious. I think ccp should give out limited time items to people who attended certain ingame events, incursions etc. Let us wear our medals! LImited-time items have value in MMO's too, find reasons to give wearable unique items out more often! This would help release some stress from the nex-is-expensive crowd, as they'd have a chance at getting something unique as well, even things that chribba cant =p (and chribba really needs a veldspar hat or pin. seriously)
You are a ***got irl.
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Ardarn
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Posted - 2011.09.02 05:10:00 -
[115]
Originally by: Ethan Bejorn
Originally by: Terminal Insanity
4/5
Woot!'s
- First step towards WIS / Dust integration and is a good promise/proof that they ARE working on WIS.
Meh's:
- NEX needs cooler **** then fancy dresses, we need to be able to make em fancy colors too. The monocle was hilarious. I think ccp should give out limited time items to people who attended certain ingame events, incursions etc. Let us wear our medals! LImited-time items have value in MMO's too, find reasons to give wearable unique items out more often! This would help release some stress from the nex-is-expensive crowd, as they'd have a chance at getting something unique as well, even things that chribba cant =p (and chribba really needs a veldspar hat or pin. seriously)
You are a ***got irl.
And you, sir , are a ***got in both.
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Ascendic
Macabre Votum
Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2011.09.02 07:00:00 -
[116]
Originally by: Alexzia Sevic
Edited by: Alexzia Sevic on 01/09/2011 17:48:25
Originally by: Black Dranzer
Originally by: Alexzia Sevic
Actually if you just added that it would be fine. But your omission in the first places leaves room for speculation.
The fact that others may collect raw data from this thread and draw their own conclusions is completely irrelevant. I am under no obligation to ensure that others do not perform their own inaccurate statistical analysis.
In fact, even if I'd gone so far as to collect all the data in this thread and publish the mean, median and mode of the data, I still wouldn't be under any obligation to put your disclaimer in my post, because I would still not be attempting to draw any conclusions from the actual data.
You're saying that if you did publish data that had questionable origins that you would not feel the need to state that? Do you actually care what information you're getting? Or is this thread just another guise to troll on incarna?
I'm just going to say that not only are your collection techniques invalid, but every post is biased by the time its gets posted, as the authors eyes scroll across every post on the way down to press reply. You may have protected the first reply by not giving your own score, but every subsequent one was not.
If you were actually interested in people's opinion you would put that you know its not scientific, or valid. You might actually get people who do like incarna to post in here, as they think it would be genuine. But sadly, the original post just comes across as another effort to incite discontent with the latest expansion, so the people that may support it just hit the back button rather then wade t
trough the chorus of tears.
Came to post opinion of how terrible Incarna is.
Began reading Alexzia's posts.
Headdesk'd repeatedly until sufficiently concussed.
Woke up hours later disgusted with a migraine.
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Puppet Mas'ter
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Posted - 2011.09.02 07:17:00 -
[117]
2.4%/5
2.4% just like the population growth over the past 30 months
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Florestan Bronstein
24th Imperial Crusade
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Posted - 2011.09.02 07:54:00 -
[118]
2/5 - original Incarna
2.5/5 if we count EyjoG's devblogs and customizable API keys.
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Dr Zuma
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Posted - 2011.09.02 08:04:00 -
[119]
Can't vote, there was no option for Caca, grand poopar.
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Headerman
Minmatar
Quovis
Shadow of xXDEATHXx
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Posted - 2011.09.02 08:27:00 -
[120]
5/5.
Incarnia has been a massive step up for CCP, Carbon has crystalised into a decent working engine for them to work on. I can only imagine what it was like before, but i think Carbon should now allow a LOT of new things to be added... more ships, guns etc etc.
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Misunderstood Genius
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Posted - 2011.09.02 08:34:00 -
[121]
5/5
- just enjoying a great game instead of whining and never been satisfied whatever CCP would do
- adapted to changes as usual
- don't care about ship spinning
- bugs are not the end of RL
- don't use an outdated PC with Win XP and posting on the forums that it's all CCP's fail
- not wasting my time to rage at CCP all the time but playing
- not posting every non-important personal hate and frustration on the forums
- not emo-unsubbing my 10 accounts with pathetic blackmail-postings on the forums
- EVE forums suck anyway
Avoid forums. Play EVE!
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Trolls Troll
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Posted - 2011.09.02 09:08:00 -
[122]
Originally by: Misunderstood Genius
5/5
- just enjoying a great game instead of whining and never been satisfied whatever CCP would do
- adapted to changes as usual
- don't care about ship spinning
- bugs are not the end of RL
- don't use an outdated PC with Win XP and posting on the forums that it's all CCP's fail
- not wasting my time to rage at CCP all the time but playing
- not posting every non-important personal hate and frustration on the forums
- not emo-unsubbing my 10 accounts with pathetic blackmail-postings on the forums
- EVE forums suck anyway
Avoid forums. Play EVE!
That you Hilmar?
5 years of planning for 1 racial room? And you give it 5/5?
Imagine if bioshock 2, or bf3, or mass effect 3 took 5 years to develop, and you ended up with one room to explore. You think that would be getting 5/5 from the gaming world.....
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King Rothgar
Autocannons Anonymous
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Posted - 2011.09.02 09:26:00 -
[123]
0/5, I suspect the vast majority of eve players turned it off within hours of it being released. For most of us, it might as well not exist at all. Eve is about violencing spaceships and trading, not playing with your hair style in a lonely apartment.
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Vilggiiee
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Posted - 2011.09.02 09:26:00 -
[124]
0/5 - HQ is disaster ... nothing new .
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Needa3
Minmatar
BURN EDEN
Northern Coalition.
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Posted - 2011.09.02 09:51:00 -
[125]
Originally by: King Rothgar
0/5, I suspect the vast majority of eve players turned it off within hours of it being released. For most of us, it might as well not exist at all. Eve is about violencing spaceships and trading, not playing with your hair style in a lonely apartment.
this, and all the rest that turned out to be a major **** up
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Malcanis
Caldari
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
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Posted - 2011.09.02 10:17:00 -
[126]
Originally by: Black Dranzer
Well, it's been a couple of months since Incarna hit, and now that we've had plenty of time to mull over it, I'm actually curious as to STATISTICS.
What's your opinion of Incarna? Keeping in mind, when I refer to Incarna, I refer strictly to the CQ part, not the turrets or any other part of the patch.
1: Bad
2: Poor
3: Average
4: Good
5: Great
In the name of not biasing the audience, I'll refrain from giving my own opinion. Also, don't bring in your alts to vote; This is about collecting opinions, not ****waving.
0: Irrelevant. There's not even enough of it to be "bad"; it's just pointless. There's no gameplay to be bad. There's no multiplayer to be bad. There's nothing. It's as if CCP made an entire expansion out of introducing the billboards on jump gates.
That's a massive shame really, because if even small percentage of the potential that people hoped for (and expected from CCP communcations) had been delivered then it would have been an easy 4 or 5. I bet the leadership of the Incarna porject work from home a lot, because my God, it must be embarrassing as hell coming into work after producing that as the culmination of 4 years work.
Malcanis' Law: Whenever a mechanics change is proposed on behalf of "new players", that change is always to the overwhelming advantage of richer, older players. |
Stormhammer Investments
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Posted - 2011.09.02 10:19:00 -
[127]
The trouble is they should not have called it an Expansion. Especially since it is supposed to be the first step towards full avatar interactions like the video promoted. It should just have been released like a normal update and something more fleshed out made as an actual expansion.
As for what it was released as, an expansion, it has weak content if you look at it on its own (without considering it as a stepping stone)
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pipvac
Sacred Templars
RED.OverLord
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Posted - 2011.09.02 10:30:00 -
[128]
1 out of 5.
I would like to give a negative score, especially if you take into account the opportunity cost of this so called expansion! But, will keep in the spirit of the original troll...sorry, I mean surveyer.
Unsubbed all but one account (this one), so as to remain in touch with Eve friends. |
Aralyn Cormallen
Wildly Inappropriate
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.09.02 10:33:00 -
[129]
1 - Was going to give them a 4, but couldn't be arsed to add the other 3. Maybe I will bother in three or four months if something else doesn't distr... ooh, shiny. |
Sil le
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Posted - 2011.09.02 10:35:00 -
[130]
3
Has not stopped me doing what I do and has not offered me much in the way of new content. Still love the game and will be here until they turn the lights out  |
Sullen Skoung
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Posted - 2011.09.02 10:40:00 -
[131]
Originally by: Headerman
5/5.
Incarnia has been a massive step up for CCP, Carbon has crystalised into a decent working engine for them to work on. I can only imagine what it was like before, but i think Carbon should now allow a LOT of new things to be added... more ships, guns etc etc.
woo! way to troll man! |
Misunderstood Genius
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Posted - 2011.09.02 10:55:00 -
[132]
Originally by: Sullen Skoung
Edited by: Sullen Skoung on 02/09/2011 10:41:52
Originally by: Headerman
5/5.
Incarnia has been a massive step up for CCP, Carbon has crystalised into a decent working engine for them to work on. I can only imagine what it was like before, but i think Carbon should now allow a LOT of new things to be added... more ships, guns etc etc.
woo! way to troll man!
Originally by: Misunderstood Genius
- EVE forums suck anyway
Avoid forums. Play EVE!
this... is why you fail
given that you ARE posting ON THE FORUMS
Posting for positive thinking is a difference to posting for negative whining. Some kind of missionary mission.
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Cedille Mureau
Gallente
Institute of Archaeology
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Posted - 2011.09.02 11:07:00 -
[133]
Potential = 5/5
Reality = 1/5
A real shame, it could have been quite something but the way CCP has rolled it out has turned it into a disaster.
The real scandal is when you realise what Bell and Braben did with Elite on the BBC B. Then you look at CQ. I am not sure sure by how many orders of magnitude the power of computers has increased since Elite was released in 1984; but if B&B could do what they did with what they had it is *shameful* that CCP could not make a proper job of CQ. Could just be that Bell and Braben were better programmers than the devs at CCP; after all Elite was written in machine code IIRC, and not Python. 
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disasteur
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Posted - 2011.09.02 11:08:00 -
[134]
2/5, eve definitly has a great potential, and i still believe CCP has great plans with it for the future....
however i am still wondering why they NOT first fix all (and i mean all) things that are either broken or bugged b4 they even consider a update
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Prince Spiderman
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Posted - 2011.09.02 11:46:00 -
[135]
Originally by: Cedille Mureau
Potential = 5/5
Reality = 1/5
A real shame, it could have been quite something but the way CCP has rolled it out has turned it into a disaster.
The real scandal is when you realise what Bell and Braben did with Elite on the BBC B. Then you look at CQ. I am not sure sure by how many orders of magnitude the power of computers has increased since Elite was released in 1984; but if B&B could do what they did with what they had it is *shameful* that CCP could not make a proper job of CQ. Could just be that Bell and Braben were better programmers than the devs at CCP; after all Elite was written in machine code IIRC, and not Python.
Yes, and Steve Jobs started in a garage and today we have Apple(s compared to oranges). Great that you experienced Elite and that you can tell us about Braben to impress the ones who were born when we finished study. Why was Elite written in machine code? Because it was the 80th and not 2011 where time and life flows totally different.
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Malcom Vincent
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Posted - 2011.09.02 11:53:00 -
[136]
Staggered Implementation so I'll reserve any rating till its fully released.
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Living Dead Girl
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Posted - 2011.09.02 11:59:00 -
[137]
at this very moment: 1/5. I however can see the potential of it. If CCP can pull it off, this could easily swing to a 5.
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Ramalamadindong
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Posted - 2011.09.02 12:06:00 -
[138]
0/5. Having the CQ, which is a tiny part of the game, use more resources than the Spaceship part of the game is laughable. Utter fail. |
Commandante Caldari
Dark-Rising
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Posted - 2011.09.02 12:26:00 -
[139]
5/5 for optimzing GPU with the latest patch. 59¦C instead of 78¦C now on my M17x and less fan noise.
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Pesadel0
the muppets
RED.OverLord
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Posted - 2011.09.02 12:26:00 -
[140]
1/5.
Worthless expansion yet .
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Cedar Locus
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Posted - 2011.09.02 12:57:00 -
[141]
0.5 for trying....or wait a minute... o_0
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Gabrielle Darque
Caldari
State War Academy
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Posted - 2011.09.02 13:09:00 -
[142]
Originally by: Malcom Vincent
Staggered Implementation so I'll reserve any rating till its fully released.
Exactly. You put in a piece and makes sure it works perfectly first. Once you are satisfied then you start rolling out more.
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Glyken Touchon
Gallente
Independent Alchemists
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Posted - 2011.09.02 16:35:00 -
[143]
1.
if all 4 of the CQs had gone live: 2.
Even with that, though, Incarna is nothing special.
It's a springboard for later expansions, which I'll judge on their merits.
If multiplayer comes as part of this expansion rather than the next one, then I'll revise my opinion.
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Tippia's analysis of NEX/Incarna |
Trolls Troll
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Posted - 2011.09.03 05:35:00 -
[144]
1/5.
You only get 1 because you have given me so many nubs to troll on the forums because this expansion was so fail.
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Aineko Macx
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Posted - 2011.09.03 06:48:00 -
[145]
Well, CCP never fails to disappoint, that's for sure.
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CCP: Where fixing bugs is a luxury, not an obligation. |
keval4
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Posted - 2011.09.03 06:58:00 -
[146]
1 for space barbies
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Real Poison
Minmatar
Stormlord Battleforce
Shadow of xXDEATHXx
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Posted - 2011.09.03 07:12:00 -
[147]
Incarna 1.1/5
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Norian Lonark
Gallente
Black Thorne Corporation
Black Thorne Alliance
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Posted - 2011.09.03 07:31:00 -
[148]
Originally by: Cedille Mureau
Potential = 5/5
Reality = 1/5
This sums it up for me as well. Was really looking forward to it but with the iteration as it is with the Nex store and useless features I have CQ turned off and have no plans of buying Plex for Aurum.
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Kurfin
Amarr
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Posted - 2011.09.03 08:00:00 -
[149]
I'd give them 1/5 for the potential, but one room after all that hype WTF were they thinking? As a bare minimum we should at least of had a feature were we could invite others to our CQ. Realistically we couldn't expect it to come out completely finished, but CCP should have left it till it was further along than this. Maybe they could have placated us with a raft of bug fixes, tweaks, balancing etc... and left Incarna till winter. And for the love of all that is good and pure give us a sprint key, that would make using the CQ so much less painfull.
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Reeno Coleman
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Posted - 2011.09.03 08:53:00 -
[150]
Since I do not rate hopes, promises, and future plans...
1/5
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El'Niaga
Minmatar
Republic Military School
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Posted - 2011.09.03 08:56:00 -
[151]
1
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Julien Brellier
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Posted - 2011.09.03 09:19:00 -
[152]
0
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Zombatar
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Posted - 2011.09.03 09:54:00 -
[153]
0/5 - What Incarna?
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Tub Chil
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Posted - 2011.09.03 10:02:00 -
[154]
if I had to choose between incarna and old station environment I'd go for an old one. I have it disabled now.
rated as 2
but need to say that this thing is not what incarna should be.
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Lucien Visteen
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Posted - 2011.09.03 10:03:00 -
[155]
3/5
I'm liking what I'm seeing so far. And I'm looking forward to when we can get out of our quaters
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Jack Paladin
StarFleet Enterprises
BricK sQuAD.
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Posted - 2011.09.03 10:14:00 -
[156]
4/5
- A huge step forward in further immersing Pod Pilot's into the world that is EVE
- An understandable work in progress but so far - it is stable
You got to have faith brothers! Less QQ more PewPew!
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Cedille Mureau
Gallente
Institute of Archaeology
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Posted - 2011.09.03 11:38:00 -
[157]
Edited by: Cedille Mureau on 03/09/2011 11:39:05
Originally by: Prince Spiderman
Why was Elite written in machine code? Because it was the 80th and not 2011 where time and life flows totally different.
Well, I might have put it slightly differently, but yes, the 80s, I assume you meant 80s not 80th, were really the stone age as far as games programming is concerned. What I tried to say is that given the resources and knowledge that current devs have it is shocking that B&B wrote such an immersive game with so little and yet CCP gave us CQ.
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Ethan Bejorn
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2011.09.03 11:40:00 -
[158]
Originally by: Jack Paladin
4/5
- A huge step forward in further immersing Pod Pilot's into the world that is EVE
- An understandable work in progress but so far - it is stable
You got to have faith brothers! Less QQ more PewPew!
Pod pilots are not supposed to leave thier pods. How is this immersive?
Additionally, how is opening up the agent or mission window on accident everytime you click somewhere in the CQ immersive?
I call troll.
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Inzax
Caldari
In ZAX
New Eden Conglomerate
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Posted - 2011.09.03 11:53:00 -
[159]
0/5
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Meryl SinGarda
Caldari
Belligerent Underpayed Tactical Team
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Posted - 2011.09.03 11:54:00 -
[160]
Edited by: Meryl SinGarda on 03/09/2011 11:56:19
Originally by: Discrodia
Trolling comments: Hilmar is that you?
Non-trolling comment: There's a difference between a change for the better and a change for the worse, especially with MMO's, and compared to many MMO releases Incarnage was definitely a change for the worse.
Example of change for the better:
(One that I loath using) WoW's streamlining of group finding totally revamped finding instances after they released the second expansion, which was pretty much universally loved by both existing and new playerbase.
Example of change for the worse:
(One that I'm ashamed I fell for) CCP promised to give us Walking In Stations since before I started play ('07 if my memory stands). At first, it looked good enough, and there was a lot of optimism. Then the 'one more year' line started appearing. Ambulation/Incarna/WiS became something of a joke. Lo and behold, when they revamped the face gen for Incursion, Incarna was again talked about. There was a good amount of hope. CCP mentioned the possibility of clothing items for sale for RL money. Although grumbled about, most people assumed the stuff would be reasonably priced and still cool. Lo and behold, Incarna comes out, with all the much-touted interaction, customization, and coolness cut out. The NeX store is a disaster area, and not only is the whole thing underwhelming, but it removes most of the functionality from hangar view, it is dismally difficult to run, and there's no opt-out. Player rage ensues, something like 6k subs are cancelled, and CCP's damage control team fails utterly. I haven't heard if they've made the lost subs back from MT or new ones yet, but I highly doubt it.
And to your cute little edit, I believe he's referring to the latest FEAR game. IE, something that is comparable in detail to Incarna yet doesn't require the goddamn Monolith to run at decent framerates.
Alright, since you're raging especially hard, I'm going to respond.
First off, I'd just like to say that I am not trolling (or at least, wasn't trolling in that comment I made).
1. There's a difference between a raging, resistant-to-change derper and an open-minded gamer. You<Me
2. WoW is a horrible game and allowing people to skip exploration was probably the worst thing they could do. Are you saying CCP should cater to lazy gamers? I mean, I guess the equivalent would be the ability to always skip jumping through systems, as if you had some GM powered jump clone in every nook and cranny of New Eden.
3. The things you're complaining about here, in what you perceive as a major fail or what-have-you, are exactly that. A perceived failure because you can't see past the narrow tunnel you confine yourself within.
CCP promised Incarna. Here it is? No, here's the 1st stage.
CCP brings the NEX store. You are not forced to use it. You are simply grasping at straws, jumping on a bandwagon and being a bitter derp.
And if you actually had a computer, you know, one worth running, you wouldn't be having any of the hardware or execution problems that you speak of. I don't think CCP owes you an apology for keeping your 486.
What I'm trying to say here, is this: You and most of these other whiners, are impatient, un-thinking, "I want it NAO!" slap-tards. You just don't get it and no matter how many times it's explained to you, these threads will keep showing up and people will continue to cry and make generalizations like "WHAT HAPPENED TO THE GAME ABOUT SPACEHSIPS?!? HERPA HERPA" or, "YOU SUPPORT CCP AND WHAT THEY'RE DOING? YOU MUST BE STUPID CAUSE I KNOW WHAT'S GOOD FOR EVE, NOT YOU."
Go back to your hole and please, stay there.
Fly safe, Die hard |
Y Berion
Minmatar
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Posted - 2011.09.03 12:54:00 -
[161]
1/5
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Xorth Adimus
Caldari
Blackwater USA Inc.
Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2011.09.03 13:57:00 -
[162]
Rating it would require it to have useful content as an expansion..
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beeker1
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Posted - 2011.09.03 14:16:00 -
[163]
2/5 Poor, as in incomplete.
Personally for me incarna feels like an incomplete mess. Even if I would include the turrets, as being a caldari pilot I wouldn't notice much of a difference since I mostly stick too heavy missile launchers. The CQ has been turned off from the beginning (since that option was available), sometimes I turn it back on to see what has been updated with the newest patches. But to be frankly honest, I don't see much of a difference since incarna first got released till the day we are at right now (incarna 1.1). Most of the updates were probably bug fixes that I could normally not trigger, or they added an extra light here and there...
I understand why people got so upset about ship spinning being taken out, because without CQ, pre incarna and aft incarna would still feel like a similar game thus its just Eve Incursions with an additional door picture ;)
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Ejit
Amarr
STD contractors
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Posted - 2011.09.03 14:24:00 -
[164]
1/5
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Epic DaSoto
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Posted - 2011.09.03 15:57:00 -
[165]
3/5
not a great expansion but definitely not the reason for the massive attack of QQing on the forums.
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TravisWB
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Posted - 2011.09.03 16:28:00 -
[166]
Less than 1.
Now almost 2 years into this game I am about to the point that I wonder how much longer I will play, even if they make it free.
The game is just basicly non stop stupid, Incarna just made it more so.
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Izziee
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Posted - 2011.09.03 16:32:00 -
[167]
Originally by: Black Dranzer
Well, it's been a couple of months since Incarna hit, and now that we've had plenty of time to mull over it, I'm actually curious as to STATISTICS.
What's your opinion of Incarna? Keeping in mind, when I refer to Incarna, I refer strictly to the CQ part, not the turrets or any other part of the patch.
1: Bad
2: Poor
3: Average
4: Good
5: Great
In the name of not biasing the audience, I'll refrain from giving my own opinion. Also, don't bring in your alts to vote; This is about collecting opinions, not ****waving.
4 and a half.
Hmm, make that 3.5 due to latest patch, though incarna without this weeks patch 4.5
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coolzero
Gallente
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Posted - 2011.09.03 18:32:00 -
[168]
2 1/2 |
MR DEMOS
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Posted - 2011.09.03 18:53:00 -
[169]
1/5 With all the hardware issues and heat issues deffintly a 1 Massive Fail on docking more than 2 toons at any given time... GFX look nice but it's all Fluff... Wheres the content... wheres all the Fix's  hopefully they do Fix's before they do more stuff with incarna..
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Aessaya
Fairlight Corp
Rooks and Kings
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Posted - 2011.09.03 21:09:00 -
[170]
Edited by: Aessaya on 03/09/2011 21:13:10
-1
ninja edit: Yes, that is a negative number, because to me, everything about incarna is negative. No new features and loss of features i was used to (ship spinning and hangar functions, anyone?).
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Forum Worrier
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Posted - 2011.09.03 21:15:00 -
[171]
I'll give them a 4/5 for now. I'll give them a proper rating once Incarna has been fully implemented and not jump on the hate boat and pass judgement on something that is being released incrementally.
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Kazrael Starseeker
The Night Crew
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Posted - 2011.09.03 21:16:00 -
[172]
In the first two weeks of incarna:
3/5
When I realized there was really no new content, and then even the other races quarters were delayed :
1/5
I live in a fraken wormhole, basically incarna for me is - tractor beams and colored lasers. More of a cool patch than an expansion.
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FLINX 0220
The Night Crew
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Posted - 2011.09.04 16:40:00 -
[173]
1/5
It was a great patch, bad expansion.
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Rondee
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Posted - 2011.09.04 17:03:00 -
[174]
1/5
I do believe that at least 95% of Eve players have CQ disabled.
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Leisen
Caldari
Interrobang Inc.
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Posted - 2011.09.04 17:20:00 -
[175]
1/5.
I honestly respect their idea, on paper. But they just ****ed up so bad. The performance issues are well known, and their microtransactions are ridiculous, especially considering it's a subscription based game...
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Pablo Amadeus Zekairra
Caldari
State War Academy
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Posted - 2011.09.04 18:00:00 -
[176]
stands at 0.
I am Purple in place of I am legend.
New Comic.
Purple PPl Group.
Purple PPL
@House of Kahn
House of Kahn on the Web-matrix
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Inturist
FSB-ALFA
RED.OverLord
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Posted - 2011.09.04 18:19:00 -
[177]
0.5/5
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Aldan Romar
Amarr
Imperial Academy
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Posted - 2011.09.04 18:36:00 -
[178]
Originally by: Ethan Bejorn
Pod pilots are not supposed to leave thier pods. How is this immersive?
...
Pod pilots are not supposed to leave their pods? 
'Style over substance |
Cthulhu F'taghn
Sniggerdly
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Posted - 2011.09.04 18:51:00 -
[179]
1/5
turned it off after 5mins
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Imden
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Posted - 2011.09.04 19:44:00 -
[180]
1/5 ( for the moment)
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Tippia
Caldari
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2011.09.04 19:47:00 -
[181]
Originally by: Aldan Romar
Originally by: Ethan Bejorn
Pod pilots are not supposed to leave thier pods. How is this immersive?
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Pod pilots are not supposed to leave their pods?
It's a disgusting, degrading and thoroughly unpleasant experience that reduces you from an unkillable god with the might to destroy millions of lives with a mere thought into a hunk of useless, worthless, weak and pitiful meat.
So no, they're not supposed to do it with any regularity if it can be at all avoided.
ùùù
ôIf you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡
you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.ö
ù Karath Piki
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divanoo
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Posted - 2011.09.04 19:49:00 -
[182]
5/5
some minor problems,which can be ironed it, but otherwise great! best update for some time
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Aldan Romar
Amarr
Imperial Academy
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Posted - 2011.09.04 19:56:00 -
[183]
Edited by: Aldan Romar on 04/09/2011 19:56:39
Originally by: Tippia
It's a disgusting, degrading and thoroughly unpleasant experience that reduces you from an unkillable god with the might to destroy millions of lives with a mere thought into a hunk of useless, worthless, weak and pitiful meat.
So no, they're not supposed to do it with any regularity if it can be at all avoided.
But I like to drink a nice Chardonnay after a hard day's work 
'Style over substance |
Barbelo Valentinian
Gallente
The Scope
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Posted - 2011.09.04 20:01:00 -
[184]
1/5
It's not all bad. Apart from the shading problems I quite like the CQ. Far from spectacular, but shows promise. However, if this doesn't become a multiracial multiplayer feature, with reasonably spectacular shared spaces soon, it's going to prove to have been a monumental waste of time.
But I hate, hate, hate the way CQ is forced on us and not an option as was promised. I hate the way casual decanting goes against the lore. I hate that Hangar, with its slick, easy functionality that was so ingrained it felt like "home", is gone.
Awful, awful mistake on CCP's part, that's only served to further alienate older players who've been turned off by the recent shenanigans.
*****
"To wake up is to wake the world up" - D.E. Harding |
Throatslitter
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Posted - 2011.09.04 20:34:00 -
[185]
I was going to give CQ 1/5 but it really doesnt look that bad, unplayable yes, but a step in the right direction.
But I switched CQ off after 5min, so it gets a 2/5 from me.
In almost 5 years of playing, this has to be one of the worst "expansions" for me.
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Xyla Vulchanus
Amarr
Sarz'na Khumatari
Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2011.09.04 21:01:00 -
[186]
An expansion that not only makes the game significantly worse, it has also been developed using resources that could have been poured into improvements. Incarna represents Eve's nadir since I have been playing.
1/5 (although it should be given a negative)
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Trolls Troll
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Posted - 2011.09.04 22:31:00 -
[187]
Originally by: Tippia
Originally by: Aldan Romar
Originally by: Ethan Bejorn
Pod pilots are not supposed to leave thier pods. How is this immersive?
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Pod pilots are not supposed to leave their pods?
It's a disgusting, degrading and thoroughly unpleasant experience that reduces you from an unkillable god with the might to destroy millions of lives with a mere thought into a hunk of useless, worthless, weak and pitiful meat.
So no, they're not supposed to do it with any regularity if it can be at all avoided.
SORRY TIPTOP BUT YOU ARE WRONG.....
Just yesterday I docked to get some ammo and I found myself out of pod on CQ balcony. I must be a fast runner because I appeared out of ship, got my ammo and was undocked within 30 secs.
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Vyktor Abyss
The Abyss Corporation
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Posted - 2011.09.04 22:38:00 -
[188]
1
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Bhuda Slash
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Posted - 2011.09.04 22:42:00 -
[189]
Since the true essence of Incarna is still missing, I reserve judgement on the release.
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Jackson Brown
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Posted - 2011.09.04 23:05:00 -
[190]
Originally by: divanoo
5/5
some minor problems,which can be ironed it, but otherwise great! best update for some time
I wonder if there are really people out there who think this, or if this is just a troll. I can't imagine any person thinking this is the best expansion in a while, and that it is a 5/5. Seriously, it would be insane.
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Paragon Renegade
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Posted - 2011.09.04 23:17:00 -
[191]
We'll have to wait until Incarna is actually released in full now won't we?
Nobody can honestly give a rating to something that isn't even released yet, but for the curret things, I can't really say I care much, if at all about it.
On one hand, loading the quarters is resource-heavy & rather time-consuming for when I just want to dock, but on the other hand, it's nice to see a "live" Human every now & then in a predominantly space-based game.
Not being a veteran, I can't say I fully understand their complaints with the vanity & "Play to Win", but since those are not even reality yet (P2W) & vanity is just that.........vanity, I can with a clear-conscious say 3.
"3" essentially means "I don't give a s-"
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Tippia
Caldari
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2011.09.05 01:05:00 -
[192]
Originally by: Trolls Troll
SORRY TIPTOP BUT YOU ARE WRONG.....
Not really, noà
Quote:
Just yesterday I docked to get some ammo and I found myself out of pod on CQ balcony. I must be a fast runner because I appeared out of ship, got my ammo and was undocked within 30 secs.
Like Ethan Bejorn said: it isn't particularly immersive ù the game doesn't follow its own logic.
ùùù
ôIf you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡
you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.ö
ù Karath Piki
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Trolls Troll
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Posted - 2011.09.05 02:33:00 -
[193]
Originally by: Tippia
Originally by: Trolls Troll
SORRY TIPTOP BUT YOU ARE WRONG.....
Not really, noà
Quote:
Just yesterday I docked to get some ammo and I found myself out of pod on CQ balcony. I must be a fast runner because I appeared out of ship, got my ammo and was undocked within 30 secs.
Like Ethan Bejorn said: it isn't particularly immersive ù the game doesn't follow its own logic.
Um you just proved my point, how can be getting out of pod hard if I did it in 30 secs???????????????????????????
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Krystal Flores
Amarr
Missions Mining and Mayhem
Northern Coalition.
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Posted - 2011.09.05 03:10:00 -
[194]
+1 for a few things that was actually good, like no session change for switching ships.
doesn't count (+0)
-1 for removing ship spinning
-1 for maxing out my my video card (went over 100C the first time) that used to run max graphics pre incarna fine
-2 for the nex crap
-1 for having to make a new avatar instead of playing eve.
+1 for actually doing something they said they were going to.
+1 if they add that command room/ other rooms and station combat.
So 2/5 possible, time will tell
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Mehrdad Kor-Azor
Amarr
Iure Divino
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Posted - 2011.09.05 03:30:00 -
[195]
1/5 right now.
If made optional and the establishments/corp offices/meeting rooms are put in, it would definitely make it to 5/5.
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Richard C Hoagland
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Posted - 2011.09.05 03:37:00 -
[196]
I'm giving this demo-level verison of Incarna 1/5, with a potential for as high as 4/5 or even 5/5 once we get a more complete version of Incarna.
This initial iteration of Incarna was so incomplete that it made me seriously wonder what they've been doing with this entire idea for the last x years. How many prototypes were built and then thrown out? It seems that the development of what we actually got wasn't even started until shortly before we got it. That doesn't bode well for the pace at which we can expect future Incarna-related patches.
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Nikodiemus
Caldari
Perkone
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Posted - 2011.09.05 03:39:00 -
[197]
2 of 5:
Walking in a room smaller than my bedroom is not new content. Hilmar needs to be replaced as CEO - his company is indulging in failing practices.
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Joyana Dakota
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Posted - 2011.09.05 05:01:00 -
[198]
5
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Trolls Troll
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Posted - 2011.09.05 05:03:00 -
[199]
Originally by: Joyana Dakota
0/5
FYP bro
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