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Zverofaust Gallente Incompertus INC Fatal Ascension	Posted - 2011.09.01 17:06:00 - [1] So yeah, somehow by removing ship change session timers, you've broken non-piloted ships maintaining player's fitting skills. So now every time I get out of and get back into my Harbinger (for example) 3 mods are offlined because without me piloting them, it doesn't have the CPU or PG on its own to fit those modules. Thanks chee-chee-pee!
Denidil Gallente Rape Pillage and Burn	Posted - 2011.09.01 17:09:00 - [2] i thought that was just a UI glitch, but that the numbers are actually being applied. someone correct me if I'm wrong.
Zverofaust Gallente Incompertus INC Fatal Ascension	Posted - 2011.09.01 17:10:00 - [3] It isn't a glitch as I've undocked twice in my Harbinger now after switching ships to find modules offlined.
Nika Dekaia	Posted - 2011.09.01 17:15:00 - [4] Originally by: CCP Zymurgist Known Issues Switching ships with the fitting window open is randomly offline modules. Lazy dock workers are being interrogated. Linkage

CCP Zymurgist Gallente C C P	Posted - 2011.09.01 17:16:00 - [5] This is a known issue and is being investigated. There isn't a work around at the moment just be sure to check your fitting window before undocking until this issue is resolved. Zymurgist Community Representative CCP NA, EVE Online Contact Us

Denidil Gallente Rape Pillage and Burn	Posted - 2011.09.01 17:22:00 - [6] Originally by: CCP Zymurgist This is a known issue and is being investigated. There isn't a work around at the moment just be sure to check your fitting window before undocking until this issue is resolved. hey Zym... as a software tester, i'm going to have to ask you to go give your testers a hard time. a lot of bugs that get through on MMOs are just because they're hard to test. but this one.. that's not hard to test. that's not paying attention.
Mupdadoodidda Bix Nood	Posted - 2011.09.01 17:24:00 - [7] OH MY ****ING GOD! This bug has been on SISI for MONTHS, and reported and replicated widely, and yet you STILL roll out this faulty content onto the main server?!
Ethan Bejorn Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2011.09.01 17:24:00 - [8] Originally by: CCP Zymurgist This is a known issue and is being investigated. There isn't a work around at the moment just be sure to check your fitting window before undocking until this issue is resolved. You fail. Pathetic.
N1gella Laws0n	Posted - 2011.09.01 17:28:00 - [9] Originally by: CCP Zymurgist This is a known issue and is being investigated. There isn't a work around at the moment just be sure to check your fitting window before undocking until this issue is resolved. 1. Rollback to Pre Incarna. 2. Fire everybody who thought Incarna was a good idea. 3. Win back customers. 4. Profit.
Mendolus Aurelius Federation	Posted - 2011.09.01 17:30:00 - [10] Originally by: N1gella Laws0n Originally by: CCP Zymurgist This is a known issue and is being investigated. There isn't a work around at the moment just be sure to check your fitting window before undocking until this issue is resolved. 1. Rollback to Pre Incarna. 2. Fire everybody who thought Incarna was a good idea. 3. Win back customers. 4. Profit. I'll bet you everything in my wallet this never happens, you game? __________________________________________________ ...clearly the Ishukone Watch Scorpion is the fifth horseman of the apocalypse, i.e. The Brown Rider, otherwise known as Poopie.

Discrodia Gallente Symbiosis International Moose Alliance	Posted - 2011.09.01 17:30:00 - [11] Working as intended, eh? Quote: Blood for the blood god! Skulls for the skull throne! Milk for the khorne flakes!
Lady Ce'Nedra Caldari Lyrix Industries FEAR FACTORY.	Posted - 2011.09.01 17:32:00 - [12] Originally by: CCP Zymurgist This is a known issue and is being investigated. There isn't a work around at the moment just be sure to check your fitting window before undocking until this issue is resolved. IF ITS A KNOWN ISSUE WHY DID U PATCH IT BROKEN YOU GOD DAMN USELESS MONEY GRABBING *******S
Pestilent Industries	Posted - 2011.09.01 17:33:00 - [13] Originally by: Zverofaust So yeah, somehow by removing ship change session timers, you've broken non-piloted ships maintaining player's fitting skills. So now every time I get out of and get back into my Harbinger (for example) 3 mods are offlined because without me piloting them, it doesn't have the CPU or PG on its own to fit those modules. Thanks chee-chee-pee! THE ONE FEATURE, REPEAT, ONE FEATURE, IN THIS ENTIRE PATCH, AND CCP ****ED IT UP. IDIOTS.
Sellendis Caldari	Posted - 2011.09.01 17:35:00 - [14] Originally by: Mupdadoodidda Bix Nood OH MY ****ING GOD! This bug has been on SISI for MONTHS, and reported and replicated widely, and yet you STILL roll out this faulty content onto the main server?! Its called a test server for a reason....CCP tests bugged patches there before they go live and completely ignore the reports.
Smoking Blunts	Posted - 2011.09.01 17:36:00 - [15] Originally by: Denidil Originally by: CCP Zymurgist This is a known issue and is being investigated. There isn't a work around at the moment just be sure to check your fitting window before undocking until this issue is resolved. hey Zym... as a software tester, i'm going to have to ask you to go give your testers a hard time. a lot of bugs that get through on MMOs are just because they're hard to test. but this one.. that's not hard to test. that's not paying attention. software testing at ccp before we get it live?? you are joking right we have been testing this game for them for years, one day it will work. well i dream of that day at least
Ciar Meara Amarr Virtus Vindice	Posted - 2011.09.01 17:37:00 - [16] clap clap clap well played sirs, well played indeed. /sarcasm - English only please. Zymurgist
Discrodia Gallente Symbiosis International Moose Alliance	Posted - 2011.09.01 17:37:00 - [17] Originally by: Smoking Blunts Originally by: Denidil Originally by: CCP Zymurgist This is a known issue and is being investigated. There isn't a work around at the moment just be sure to check your fitting window before undocking until this issue is resolved. hey Zym... as a software tester, i'm going to have to ask you to go give your testers a hard time. a lot of bugs that get through on MMOs are just because they're hard to test. but this one.. that's not hard to test. that's not paying attention. software testing at ccp before we get it live?? you are joking right we have been testing this game for them for years, one day it will work. well i dream of that day at least You have strange dreams. You should share some of what you're smoking with us and maybe they will go away. Quote: Blood for the blood god! Skulls for the skull throne! Milk for the khorne flakes!
Ravcharas GREY COUNCIL Nulli Secunda	Posted - 2011.09.01 17:38:00 - [18] This is a bug that shouldn't even make it off of the programmers desks, tbh.
Messoroz AQUILA INC	Posted - 2011.09.01 17:41:00 - [19] Workaround: Live in wspace, I figure we have about 2 more years before they actually get around to fixing POSes and make it as bad as stations.
Archa4 Badasaz	Posted - 2011.09.01 17:43:00 - [20] Same issue: Just changed back to my CNR, 2 missile launchers and shield booster offline, luckily found it out before warping to mission. I mean WTF? come on stop breaking the game.

Shaalira D'arc	Posted - 2011.09.01 17:51:00 - [21] This is actually part of the much-anticipated FW iteration. They're breaking everything else so that FW looks like a polished product in comparison.
KaarBaak Minmatar Seatec Astronomy	Posted - 2011.09.01 17:53:00 - [22] (The following is based on an official CCP reply in another thread): Do you have a logical reason for wanting to change ships? He who breaks the law shall be punished back to the House of Pain. -- Sayer of the Law
Aldan Romar Amarr Imperial Academy	Posted - 2011.09.01 18:02:00 - [23] Originally by: Mupdadoodidda Bix Nood ... This bug has been on SISI for MONTHS, and reported and replicated widely, and yet you STILL roll out this faulty content onto the main server?! If this is true, I'm speechless... 'Style over substance
Brooks Puuntai Minmatar Nomadic Asylum	Posted - 2011.09.01 18:07:00 - [24] Originally by: Aldan Romar Originally by: Mupdadoodidda Bix Nood ... This bug has been on SISI for MONTHS, and reported and replicated widely, and yet you STILL roll out this faulty content onto the main server?! If this is true, I'm speechless... Now you see why a lot of people don't even bother bug hunting on Sisi anymore. Almost every bug that makes it to launch is reported multiple times on Sisi. Its usually ignored or the patch is still pushed out. This is nothing new.
Denidil Gallente Rape Pillage and Burn	Posted - 2011.09.01 18:08:00 - [25] Originally by: CCP Zymurgist This is a known issue and is being investigated. There isn't a work around at the moment just be sure to check your fitting window before undocking until this issue is resolved. Dear Zymurgist. I made a thread about CCP's apparently lack of Commitment To Quality and degrading patch quality. I would really appreciate it if you at least acknowledge the thread, and try to get one of the development managers to respond. Some good communication (aka not vague) from management about how you plan to address quality issues would go a long way to restoring some of the communities faith in CCP.
Black Dranzer Caldari	Posted - 2011.09.01 18:13:00 - [26] Well, it's a pretty big bug, but these kind of things do slip into patches without any notice, it's fairly unavoidab Originally by: Mupdadoodidda Bix Nood This bug has been on SISI for MONTHS, and reported and replicated widely are you **ing **ting me
SC0T1SH WARRIOR	Posted - 2011.09.01 18:14:00 - [27] Originally by: CCP Zymurgist This is a known issue and is being investigated. There isn't a work around at the moment just be sure to check your fitting window before undocking until this issue is resolved. And what about us people who are losing our stuff? probe launchers/boosters are losing their charges. should i just keep buying sets of sisters combat probes everytime and hope CCP reimburse me? petitioned.
Nomad Vherokic Minmatar	Posted - 2011.09.01 18:16:00 - [28] Edited by: Nomad Vherokic on 01/09/2011 18:17:41 Originally by: Mupdadoodidda Bix Nood OH MY ***ING GOD! This bug has been on SISI for MONTHS, and reported and replicated widely, and yet you STILL roll out this faulty content onto the main server?! Glad none of your devs and testers actually work with real spaceships... "Mission control, we have a problem." "Yes?" "One of our booster rockets just fell off after launch." "And? It's a known issue we are working on it." "Erm... but they were falling off in the simulator for the last 6 months!" "Nah. Hey we got monocles! If you guys look under your seats you can check out the groovy boots we just gave you! Cool!!!" "Losing power. Eject! Eject! Aargh noooooooo, I pulled the eject lever! Help! Why are we looking at the space station on the monitor?!?!?! Noooo... We are going to die!" "Hey guys, how are the boots?" "AAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!" "Guys?" "..." "Hello? Ah, they must be shining their boots! Cool... Hey dude, nice pants they go well with those goggles, mmmm Chunky Chicken." -- Why do people sign their name at the bottom of a post? We know who you are already...*
Ildryn	Posted - 2011.09.01 18:17:00 - [29] Wrong forum noob.
Information Agent	Posted - 2011.09.01 18:18:00 - [30] Would it be bold of me to suggest that this patch has been one of the smoothest and bug free patches rolled out to date, I mean its happened without a hitch.

Brooks Puuntai Minmatar Nomadic Asylum	Posted - 2011.09.01 18:19:00 - [31] Edited by: Brooks Puuntai on 01/09/2011 18:20:23 Remember when PI was released but you couldn't actually get PI mats yet? Yet it was found on Sisi that you could still refine POS mods and get PI mats. This was reported and even a giant thread was made about it, yet it was still released. Also when they released the auto grouping to the UI, and you where able to do pretty much unlimited alphas. Again reported on Sisi prior to release. This is nothing new, it shows that reporting bugs on Sisi is almost completely pointless, and CCPs QA team is useless or are ignoring a lot of the reports.
Zaraki Kenpachi	Posted - 2011.09.01 18:22:00 - [32] Bug was a known issue on SiSi.. And I hear the patch was delayed.. And .. it doesn't deliver ! I can't find a facepalming pic powerfull enough !
Steph Wing Gallente The Graduates Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2011.09.01 18:29:00 - [33] Originally by: CCP Zymurgist This is a known issue and is being investigated. There isn't a work around at the moment just be sure to check your fitting window before undocking until this issue is resolved. You're goddamn right this is a known issue. This has been a known issue since it was on Sisi! Where the hell is your quality control, CCP?
Buruk Utama	Posted - 2011.09.01 18:31:00 - [34] Originally by: Steph Wing Originally by: CCP Zymurgist This is a known issue and is being investigated. There isn't a work around at the moment just be sure to check your fitting window before undocking until this issue is resolved. Where the hell is your quality control, CCP? hehe I think you answered your own question. CCP is pushing to get the bs DUST interface out as fast as possible and they don't care how incompetent they look in the process.
Taleris Kline	Posted - 2011.09.01 18:36:00 - [35] The reason this bug may have gotten through while being a known issue is that in a lot of software development there are multiple categories of bugs. Some bugs are show stoppers, this includes crashing right after booting up, erasing hard drives, etc. Some bugs can be classified as annoyances such as having to check your fittings and online modules before undocking. While an annoyance if not caught until undocked, it probably was not considered a show stopper. While it is unfortunate to see any bugs get released, these are typically management decisions about what bugs can get through and what must be fixed prior to a release.
Ingvar Angst Amarr Nasty Pope Holding Corp Talocan United	Posted - 2011.09.01 18:40:00 - [36] Originally by: Zaraki Kenpachi Bug was a known issue on SiSi.. And I hear the patch was delayed.. And .. it doesn't deliver ! I can't find a facepalming pic powerfull enough ! Try looking here. Monocles are so two weeks ago. Sparkle ships are the future!
Captain Hindsite	Posted - 2011.09.01 18:43:00 - [37] Next to the US government, CCP has got to be the most incompetent organization with which I've ever dealt. Unreal.
Zleon Leigh	Posted - 2011.09.01 18:53:00 - [38] Originally by: N1gella Laws0n Originally by: CCP Zymurgist This is a known issue and is being investigated. There isn't a work around at the moment just be sure to check your fitting window before undocking until this issue is resolved. 1. Rollback to Pre Incarna. 2. Fire everybody who thought Incarna was a good idea. 3. Win back customers. 4. Profit. THIS!
Tuggboat Minmatar	Posted - 2011.09.01 18:57:00 - [39] All pilot throughout all history have done preflight checklists. If we roll out and our spaceship craps out, we got no one to blame but ourselves as flames begin to spew from our butts!. Bad fitting, bad overview, no monacle, makeups on sloppy? its all the price you pay for slackin. :) Working as intended! Don't cower from the slackers CCP!
Tribunia	Posted - 2011.09.01 19:07:00 - [40] Originally by: Tuggboat ...as flames begin to spew from our butts!. If flames didnt come out my space ship butt I d be seriously worried.

Liquid Drops	Posted - 2011.09.01 19:09:00 - [41] Originally by: KaarBaak (The following is based on an official CCP reply in another thread): Do you have a logical reason for wanting to change ships? Don't forget Eve is a Barbie doll game now so no reason to even be in a ship let alone want to change from one to another.
Sellendis Caldari	Posted - 2011.09.01 19:10:00 - [42] Well guys, look at it this way. When this "programing experts" & "QA" guys (heavy sarcasm intended) ever try to get another job, their CV better not say they worked for CCP. Every single reported bug went live, known bugs for months on test server and they ignore it and goes live. The level of incompetence is still climbing with no end in sight. One thing they "implemented", just one screwed up a crapload of stuff. I think this is a new strategy by CCP, they do patches too flawed, that in the soon future we beg them not to fix anything or add more content. Guess that would make them happy as hell. Then they can devote time to Dust and World of Suckers.
Abrazzar	Posted - 2011.09.01 19:21:00 - [43] Originally by: Tribunia Originally by: Tuggboat ...as flames begin to spew from our butts!. If flames didnt come out my space ship butt I d be seriously worried. Just wait until they try to implement engine trails again. --------
Mystic5hadow Red Federation RvB - RED Federation	Posted - 2011.09.01 19:41:00 - [44] Originally by: N1gella Laws0n Originally by: CCP Zymurgist This is a known issue and is being investigated. There isn't a work around at the moment just be sure to check your fitting window before undocking until this issue is resolved. 1. Rollback to Pre Incarna. 2. Fire everybody who thought Incarna was a good idea. 3. Win back customers. 4. Profit. You know, I was a huge supporter of Incarna and I still am. But until they fix all these issues, I actually wouldn't mind if they rolled back to pre-Incarna. I'm sick of the game dropping FPS and other random crap all the time since Incarna. They should roll back, fix all the issues, then redeploy when the entirety of Incarna is ready to go. Plus, give us ship spinning back and a button to leave our ship. If they did this, most people would be happy. --- The ≡v≡ Online Forums: where all the kiddies go to whine.
LittleTerror Day Unhappy Security Inc.	Posted - 2011.09.01 19:49:00 - [45]
Herping yourDerp	Posted - 2011.09.01 19:53:00 - [46] Originally by: Mystic5hadow Originally by: N1gella Laws0n Originally by: CCP Zymurgist This is a known issue and is being investigated. There isn't a work around at the moment just be sure to check your fitting window before undocking until this issue is resolved. 1. Rollback to Pre Incarna. 2. Fire everybody who thought Incarna was a good idea. 3. Win back customers. 4. Profit. You know, I was a huge supporter of Incarna and I still am. But until they fix all these issues, I actually wouldn't mind if they rolled back to pre-Incarna. I'm sick of the game dropping FPS and other random crap all the time since Incarna. They should roll back, fix all the issues, then redeploy when the entirety of Incarna is ready to go. Plus, give us ship spinning back and a button to leave our ship. If they did this, most people would be happy. but space monocles online doesnt have ships. Eve online next expansion details
Ishtanchuk Fazmarai Amarr	Posted - 2011.09.01 19:54:00 - [47] I am speechless. That bug is a well known one from Sisi. So, WHY? WHY? WHY?
Barakkus	Posted - 2011.09.01 20:05:00 - [48] Originally by: KaarBaak Do you have a logical reason for wanting to change ships? - [SERVICE] Corp Standings For POS anchoring
stoicfaux Gallente	Posted - 2011.09.01 20:15:00 - [49] Quote: Switching ships may offline modules if the ship is over CPU budget with an unskilled pilot. The lazy dock workers are being beaten for their failures. Dock workers? Because all the experienced QA testers have been re-allocated to DUST/WoD? CCP brought in the "too drunk to keep a job" dock workers always seen milling about the harbor, and used them to do super-cheap QA work for Eve? Argh. ----- CCP's NeX Pricing Tiers Affordable: One PLEX Mid: 3-4 PLEX Deluxe: Only for "flamboyantly rich capsuleers" Exceptional: ??
Narisa Bithon Caldari The Motley Crew Reborn	Posted - 2011.09.01 20:18:00 - [50] add weapons ALWAYS being ungrouped when you pull your ship out of a ship maintenance array at a pos.

SilentSkills Gallente Tax Evaders Inc.	Posted - 2011.09.01 20:45:00 - [51] Originally by: Zaraki Kenpachi Bug was a known issue on SiSi.. And I hear the patch was delayed.. And .. it doesn't deliver ! I can't find a facepalming pic powerfull enough ! The Monocle Definition
Elzon1 Caldari Shadow Boys Corp Bloodbound.	Posted - 2011.09.01 21:17:00 - [52] Originally by: Zaraki Kenpachi Bug was a known issue on SiSi.. And I hear the patch was delayed.. And .. it doesn't deliver ! I can't find a facepalming pic powerfull enough ! I don't know where, I don't know when... but something awful is going to happen xD
KaarBaak Minmatar Seatec Astronomy	Posted - 2011.09.01 21:19:00 - [53] You know that cute, intelligent girl you work with/see at a bar? The one who occasionally shows up with bruises on her arms or makeup covering a black eye? She says her boyfriend gets a little physical when he drinks. But he only does it when she's late with dinner or too loud on the phone. She says it's her fault really, and he's actually a nice guy. She'll never leave him because she loves him. Things are going to get better when he gets job...etc. We're the girlfriend. He who breaks the law shall be punished back to the House of Pain. -- Sayer of the Law
Monstress	Posted - 2011.09.01 21:26:00 - [54] Incompetent CCP is incompetent. Are you really this disconnected with your own player base that you ignore player feedback on SiSi of what was a known issue long before this patch was deployed?
Jada Maroo	Posted - 2011.09.01 21:29:00 - [55] This is why no one should bother bug testing for CCP. As someone who loves trying out the new stuff (and encountering the bugs they introduce) on Sisi, I've seen this happen over and over. Tester reports huge bug, developers do nothing and release anyway, players encounter huge bug, CCP acts dumbfounded.
Lithalnas Amarr Privateers Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2011.09.01 21:54:00 - [56] Confirming this was on sisi, was a know issue and ISD Habakuk knows about it because I was talking about it in C-9 local while he was complaining about us shooting abandoned drones at the station. ------------- Mictro-Transactions can bite my shinny metal exhaust port.
Jovan Geldon Gallente Lead Farmers Kill It With Fire	Posted - 2011.09.01 22:22:00 - [57] Originally by: Lithalnas ISD Habakuk ...who? ---------------
Strube Eeter	Posted - 2011.09.01 22:24:00 - [58] Edited by: Strube Eeter on 01/09/2011 22:24:09 As well as the excitement of warping in to a mission with cruise missile launchers and shield boosters offline I seem to have the bonus pleasure of not being able to take any other ships into the site if I come back to a station and try and swap over. The other ships won't warp to the mission location and for some reason I can't open the mission briefing in the journal while out of the station in a different ship. If I redock and change back to the original mission ship then undock again I can both open the journal and warp to the mission. Not good
Thomas Turnpoint	Posted - 2011.09.01 22:57:00 - [59] Wasn't the mission statement of a corp in Eve to make the game so unenjoyable for people that they quit? Could have sworn the corp name wasn't CCP, but I'm starting to wonder. __________________________ Obi-wan only felt that way about Mos Eisley because he'd never played Eve Online
Digital Messiah Gallente N7 Corporation PandaMonium.	Posted - 2011.09.01 23:01:00 - [60] Originally by: Discrodia Working as intended, eh? You know, I like the whole carbonIO thing coming out. But I won't be playing until they fix this because of training times and life in general. So it's what ever for now. Quote: Blood for the blood god! Skulls for the skull throne! Milk for the khorne flakes! I really like this quote. Not often to I actually get a good laugh from signatures. +5 internets Quote: "Frankly, my dear, I don't give a damn"

Dr Slaughter Minmatar Coreli Corporation Naraka.	Posted - 2011.09.01 23:06:00 - [61] code reviews.. anyone do them?
Guillame Herschel Gallente NME1	Posted - 2011.09.01 23:18:00 - [62] Originally by: Taleris Kline While it is unfortunate to see any bugs get released, these are typically management decisions about what bugs can get through and what must be fixed prior to a release. That's why we're piling the criticism onto management. You with us, or against us?
Ephemeron Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2011.09.01 23:21:00 - [63] Originally by: Guillame Herschel Originally by: Taleris Kline While it is unfortunate to see any bugs get released, these are typically management decisions about what bugs can get through and what must be fixed prior to a release. That's why we're piling the criticism onto management. You with us, or against us? CCP has some serious issues with management. They have like 300 people, dozens of devs for various parts of the gameplay. Yet they can't replace a cyno jump effect for 2 years. They can't fix the simplest game balance issues for years. This isn't because the devs are that incompetent. No one who can hold a job can be that bad, something's holding them back and steering them in wrong direction - their management.
KamikazeBrAzIl Vera Cruz Alliance	Posted - 2011.09.01 23:24:00 - [64] This is a known issue and is being investigated. This is a known issue and is being investigated. This is a known issue and is being investigated. This is a known issue and is being investigated. This is a known issue and is being investigated. This is a known issue and is being investigated. This is a known issue and is being investigated. This is a known issue and is being investigated. I was there
Taleris Kline	Posted - 2011.09.02 00:20:00 - [65] Originally by: Guillame Herschel Originally by: Taleris Kline While it is unfortunate to see any bugs get released, these are typically management decisions about what bugs can get through and what must be fixed prior to a release. That's why we're piling the criticism onto management. You with us, or against us? Totally agreeing that it was a questionable management decision, but not with the amount of rage. Is it an annoying bug that I'd like fixed as soon as possible. . . . YES! Is this something that I'm going to let my blood pressure gets raised over. . . No
Invisusira	Posted - 2011.09.02 00:25:00 - [66] And here I thought the WoW forums were bad, yeesh.
Varesk Gallente Maelstrom Crew	Posted - 2011.09.02 00:43:00 - [67] Originally by: CCP Zymurgist This is a known issue and is being investigated. There isn't a work around at the moment just be sure to check your fitting window before undocking until this issue is resolved. So was this a "Know Issue" before you released this patch? Whatever happened to Quality Control, The people that are suppose to catch this stuff before you release your final product? Maybe CCP should fire everone and hire people that actually play and likes the spaceship part instead of space barbie. Because if your quality control, ha joke, was doing their job they might have caught this.
XIRUSPHERE Gallente Deadly Intent.	Posted - 2011.09.02 01:03:00 - [68] CarbonÖ was there!
Piscis Net	Posted - 2011.09.02 01:12:00 - [69] Wow, thanks CCP, just had a close one. So the offline modules is just an annoyance? I went into a mission with my Tengu and unknowingly had 2 missile launchers and MY SHIELD BOOSTER offline. I was webbed and scrammed, not normally anything to worry about. BUT with an offline shield booster I almost had them penetrate my shields by the time I killed the frigs and got the heck out of Dodge.... My heartrate got a boost instead at the thought I might have to rebuy a TENGU (and all the fittings in it.
Azure Moonlight Atomic Core Industries and Science	Posted - 2011.09.02 01:13:00 - [70] That is actually very funny

SupaKudoRio	Posted - 2011.09.02 02:01:00 - [71] That is all. Ye'llo?
Living Dead Girl	Posted - 2011.09.02 02:02:00 - [72] Originally by: Nomad Vherokic "Mission control, we have a problem." "Yes?" "One of our booster rockets just fell off after launch." "And? It's a known issue we are working on it." "Erm... but they were falling off in the simulator for the last 6 months!" "Nah. Hey we got monocles! If you guys look under your seats you can check out the groovy boots we just gave you! Cool!!!" "Losing power. Eject! Eject! Aargh noooooooo, I pulled the eject lever! Help! Why are we looking at the space station on the monitor?!?!?! Noooo... We are going to die!" "Hey guys, how are the boots?" "AAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!" "Guys?" "..." "Hello? Ah, they must be shining their boots! Cool... Hey dude, nice pants they go well with those goggles, mmmm Chunky Chicken." i lol'd.
Pr1ncess Alia	Posted - 2011.09.02 02:33:00 - [73] Originally by: Jada Maroo This is why no one should bother bug testing for CCP. As someone who loves trying out the new stuff (and encountering the bugs they introduce) on Sisi, I've seen this happen over and over. Tester reports huge bug, developers do nothing and release anyway, players encounter huge bug, CCP acts dumbfounded. This is pretty much the definition of not giving a **** about your own game. Just keep sending in your sub money. That they care about. You? Your game experience? Not so much. Unless you like clothes and paint jobs for MORE money on top of your subscription which gets spent to develop and support other games. That they might be able to do. --- Players are losing faith and loyalty in CCP due previous expansions not living up to player expectations. The CSM and CCP agreed that expectation management can be improved
supersexysucker	Posted - 2011.09.02 02:38:00 - [74] Originally by: CCP Zymurgist This is a known issue and is being investigated. There isn't a work around at the moment just be sure to check your fitting window before undocking until this issue is resolved. FUCᴋING FAIL CCP Just jerk off in station guys haha... check your window everytime rofl. How can WoT have way less bugs, and have new content like every 10days... eve can't even keep shᴉt working rofl. Die already ccp DIE.
OT Smithers	Posted - 2011.09.02 02:47:00 - [75] Edited by: OT Smithers on 02/09/2011 02:48:02 I am generally a solid CCP fan and actually enjoy defending them against the mouthbreating basement dwellers and monocle hating masses. But it's becoming more an excercise in creativity than debate. So here's my advice: The goal of development is to IMPROVE the game. I understand that game development is often a two-steps-forward, one-step-back kind of thing, but you guys are leaving off the first part. You're leaping seven steps to the side, doing a spin, then falling backwards and thrashing in the dirt like a kid in an anime induced seizure. Stop it. Work on things that make the game BETTER.
AlfaJon Donuts	Posted - 2011.09.02 04:54:00 - [76] Originally by: Zleon Leigh Originally by: N1gella Laws0n Originally by: CCP Zymurgist This is a known issue and is being investigated. There isn't a work around at the moment just be sure to check your fitting window before undocking until this issue is resolved. 1. Rollback to Pre Incarna. 2. Fire everybody who thought Incarna was a good idea. 3. Win back customers. 4. Profit. THIS! MORE This!
Thorn Galen Gallente The Scope	Posted - 2011.09.02 05:29:00 - [77] Originally by: Information Agent Would it be bold of me to suggest that this patch has been one of the smoothest and bug free patches rolled out to date, I mean its happened without a hitch. I hope that's sarcasm, because this was not a patch, it's called a botch. Offline modules they knew about on Sisi for months, but CCP decided to ship this botch. I cry sweet and salty tears when I see this continued disregard by CCP to its players. Obviously nothing new from what I gather reading all the forums, but COME ON!!! This is a disgrace, CCP !!!
Ishtara DuQuebec Caldari Exotic dancers School	Posted - 2011.09.02 06:17:00 - [78] the thing i dont understand in this bug its in the first mass test on beta a month ago on voice we have half the develloper have this bug and 300 people have this bug too ... but not corrected and its a know issue
Ishtanchuk Fazmarai Amarr	Posted - 2011.09.02 06:37:00 - [79] Originally by: Ishtara DuQuebec the thing i dont understand in this bug its in the first mass test on beta a month ago on voice we have half the develloper have this bug and 300 people have this bug too ... but not corrected and its a know issue Good luck trying to figure how could that be if we weren't talking about Crowd Control Productions, hf, that notorious indie developer who formerly had an interest in doing things right and lately has comitted itself into a suicidal disregard for whatever keeps the subscribers paying their bill.
Assaj Ventress	Posted - 2011.09.02 06:57:00 - [80] Originally by: Ishtara DuQuebec the thing i dont understand in this bug its in the first mass test on beta a month ago on voice we have half the develloper have this bug and 300 people have this bug too ... but not corrected and its a know issue Heh, month ago. These offlining bugs have been on test server for months, since spring iirc. They have been reported in every patch. And yet they are here on TQ -----------------

Urgg Boolean	Posted - 2011.09.02 07:12:00 - [81] CCP can't really manage an MMO. Maybe they should manage tennis courts!!! It sure would be a lot easier. It's PvP based, which supposedly they understand. Maintain the playing surface, netting, fencing, lines painted on the ground, nothing complicated like CarbonIO. And they could have a vanity shop and sell miniskirts, special shoes and Gatorade! Placing the courts in a violent urban area would be like the Dust interface with first person shooters taking paid-for orders from the tennis players. I think it could work. They just need to translate their MMO vision into balls and rackets.
Forum Worrier	Posted - 2011.09.02 07:29:00 - [82] Originally by: Urgg Boolean CCP can't really manage an MMO. Maybe they should manage tennis courts!!! It sure would be a lot easier. It's PvP based, which supposedly they understand. Maintain the playing surface, netting, fencing, lines painted on the ground, nothing complicated like CarbonIO. And they could have a vanity shop and sell miniskirts, special shoes and Gatorade! Placing the courts in a violent urban area would be like the Dust interface with first person shooters taking paid-for orders from the tennis players. I think it could work. They just need to translate their MMO vision into balls and rackets. Ya'll would start *****in about the price of the sodas, the cost of tickets, the quality and construction of the seating, what kind of surface would be optimal for the time of year, that's before ya'll even got started on the actual rules of tennis.
Trolls Troll	Posted - 2011.09.02 07:31:00 - [83] Originally by: Forum Worrier Ya'll would start *****in about the price of the sodas, the cost of tickets, the quality and construction of the seating, what kind of surface would be optimal for the time of year, that's before ya'll even got started on the actual rules of tennis. Who knows on those forums, you might even get your name right.
Forum Worrier	Posted - 2011.09.02 07:35:00 - [84] Edited by: Forum Worrier on 02/09/2011 07:35:16 Originally by: Trolls Troll Who knows on those forums, you might even get your name right. http://www.dummies.com/how-to/content/using-apostrophes-to-show-possession.html lrn2english
Trolls Troll	Posted - 2011.09.02 07:39:00 - [85] Originally by: Forum Worrier lrn2english 2 wrong's don't mak'e a righ't.
Thornat	Posted - 2011.09.02 07:44:00 - [86] eh... <Insert Rage and Insults here> I don't even have the energy anymore. FACEPALM!
Myfanwy Heimdal Caldari	Posted - 2011.09.02 07:50:00 - [87] Well, I've not seen anything this shoddy in years. I've been writing software for, gosh, coming up to 35 years and I can't remember seeing a company's product which was so ahead of the field mangled in such a lack-lustre and care free manner. I have seen bad software products and I have seen really bad software products but to see something like EVE which was well written and developed turn into something as truly bad as it is now is simply breathtaking. It simply beggers belief that the CCP management has allowed this to happen. The customers were unhappy with the first Incarna release and one would have expected that some effort would have been made in this patch/update to make the customers happier. I see this update as something which is giving us two things: 1. Ship Exchanging 2. A new forum The first simply doesn't work and the second is the worst looking dog's dinner that I have seen. Are these forums broken and requiring a fix? No. I joked in a previous thread that we should be careful asking for ship spinning because we may get what we ask for. I think we got it; we have to go to the Fitting window each time we dock where, of course, we can spin the ship. For the first time I am worried about the future of EVE. Really worried. If one can't test a simple function as undocking then what else is there being broken in the background? For this offline module situation to happen can only mean that the code is extraordinarily badly written. I hate to think how what should be safely in one Class can affect what should be in another in such a way. There can only be some really poor coding going on behind the scenes. At least we were promised that the targetting icons would be returned in this release...
Bubbles Udan EVE University Ivy League	Posted - 2011.09.02 07:51:00 - [88] Originally by: Digital Messiah Originally by: Discrodia Working as intended, eh? You know, I like the whole carbonIO thing coming out. But I won't be playing until they fix this because of training times and life in general. So it's what ever for now. CarbonIO is them attempting to fix a mistake they shouldn't have made in the first place, writing a game in python.
Jint Hikaru OffWorld Exploration Inc	Posted - 2011.09.02 07:57:00 - [89] Originally by: Mupdadoodidda Bix Nood OH MY ***ING GOD! This bug has been on SISI for MONTHS, and reported and replicated widely, and yet you STILL roll out this faulty content onto the main server?! Really CCP, you fucing FAIL hard. WHat are you playing at.... I know delaying updates looks bad, but if you just delay with a messages saying "We are sorry, we have been unable to fix a bug that our Sisi bug hunters have made us aware of. We will rollout the update once this bug has been fixed, fly safe everyone" Ok, you may get some forum rants, but nothing to the magnitude of rolling out updates with known reported HUGE bugs like this one. To be honest, at the moment, you are sucking HARD! ------------- Jint Hikaru - Miner / Salvager / Explorer / SpaceBum [b]In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad m
Garia666 Amarr T.H.U.G L.I.F.E Xenon-Empire	Posted - 2011.09.02 09:29:00 - [90] hehe i like the passion in these posts.. like when you still gave a .... Anyway if this was known on the test server then its a big screwup.. this will impact any player so allot of **** will hit the fan.. Do not click this ad.

War Kitten Panda McLegion	Posted - 2011.09.02 09:32:00 - [91] Maybe they'll give us more aurum to compensate us for the trouble of bug testing this rapidly degrading client. Woo. Seriously sad CCP - Just really really sad. I'm normally a fanboi when it comes to programmers and understanding bugs slipping in... it happens to me too. But damn guys... when ship changing is THE visible public relations feature that you're releasing, make sure that **** works! FAIL QC "Here's your sign..."
Ciar Meara Amarr Virtus Vindice	Posted - 2011.09.02 09:36:00 - [92] Originally by: War Kitten when ship changing is THE visible public relations feature that you're releasing, make sure that **** works! Ships no longer matter. - English only please. Zymurgist
Solasta Kovacs Muppet Ninja's Ninja Unicorns with Huge Horns	Posted - 2011.09.02 09:56:00 - [93] Eve is complicated. Massively so. When patches are applied, it is actually pretty unreasonable to whine at inevitable unforeseen glitches, extra extended downtimes, early stability problems etc. But this is quite remarkable. A well known issue, which was plainly going to cause players grief, and which there has been plenty of time to sort out. And it is simply ignored. Its not a game breaker- sure. But it is serious. If you are camped in a station, undock to join and ongoing battle, or to make a run for it whilst the bad guys are distracted, and you suddenly realise your MWD has gone off line and your tank is nerfed.... Thats putting aside the obvious irritation factor to tens of thousands of players. And putting aside the fact that just docking and changing ships has become more hassle, and more click intensive than it was previously. Utterly stupid, and disdainful of paying customers.
SillyWaif Galactic Kingdom	Posted - 2011.09.02 10:03:00 - [94] Mehh, off-line modules... how important can that be in a internet spaceships game ... Way more important: Haven't you seen the super-duper-retro-style pure awesomesauce new links in your mission briefings? I am glad a dev spend some time on those. </sarcasm>
Tippia Caldari Sunshine and Lollipops	Posted - 2011.09.02 10:34:00 - [95] I wonderà àwhen are they going to let the "no sec level check for bombs/dictor spheres" bug slip throught to TQ? Because that was a really fun one.
Thorn Galen Gallente The Scope	Posted - 2011.09.02 11:04:00 - [96] I too wonder..... I seem to recall the recent Jita "shoot the monument" exhibition raised some attention to CCP....... Only now, if you're going to do that again, please make sure your modules are online..... sarcasm
Signal11th	Posted - 2011.09.02 12:17:00 - [97] humm you could always check before you undock, your still saving 15 odd seconds, I think there are bigger things to complain about really.
Ishtanchuk Fazmarai Amarr	Posted - 2011.09.02 13:16:00 - [98] Hey, don't miss that: CCP Tuxford claims that there was a horde of bugs that caused that offline issue, and they hunted everyone dead just to have a new one slip into the final build. That should be fixed now, and so and so. Nice, but you only got one reputation to tarnish, so beware of using that apology again. -- I should had never left X3: Reunion...

CCP Guard C C P C C P Alliance	Posted - 2011.09.02 13:27:00 - [99] Originally by: Ishtanchuk Fazmarai Hey, don't miss that: CCP Tuxford claims that there was a horde of bugs that caused that offline issue, and they hunted everyone dead just to have a new one slip into the final build. That should be fixed now, and so and so. Nice, but you only got one reputation to tarnish, so beware of using that apology again. I was looking over the various defects and bug reports earlier myself (I even understood some of the words!). Basically there wasn't A bug causing stuff to go offline but many different ones that looked and felt similar to the players experiencing them. But Tuxford's thread about the issues is a better source of information than I could ever be.

Menenda Tararena	Posted - 2011.09.02 13:38:00 - [100] Originally by: Taleris Kline The reason this bug may have gotten through while being a known issue is that in a lot of software development there are multiple categories of bugs. Some bugs are show stoppers, this includes crashing right after booting up, erasing hard drives, etc. Some bugs can be classified as annoyances such as having to check your fittings and online modules before undocking. While an annoyance if not caught until undocked, it probably was not considered a show stopper. While it is unfortunate to see any bugs get released, these are typically management decisions about what bugs can get through and what must be fixed prior to a release. Oh young one, not at CCP it isnt

Ishtanchuk Fazmarai Amarr	Posted - 2011.09.02 13:45:00 - [101] Originally by: CCP Guard Originally by: Ishtanchuk Fazmarai Hey, don't miss that: CCP Tuxford claims that there was a horde of bugs that caused that offline issue, and they hunted everyone dead just to have a new one slip into the final build. That should be fixed now, and so and so. Nice, but you only got one reputation to tarnish, so beware of using that apology again. I was looking over the various defects and bug reports earlier myself (I even understood some of the words!). Basically there wasn't A bug causing stuff to go offline but many different ones that looked and felt similar to the players experiencing them. But Tuxford's thread about the issues is a better source of information than I could ever be. Well I personally buy that explanation. Makes sense and is coherent with how fast has come the fix. But regretfully CCP as a company is not in a good position to claim innocence when a feature is delivered broken and then nobody ever cares of fixing it. -- I should had never left X3: Reunion...
Rodj Blake Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2011.09.02 13:51:00 - [102] It could have been worse, it could have deleted boot.ini as well... Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.
Cyniac Gallente Twilight Star Rangers	Posted - 2011.09.02 13:56:00 - [103] Originally by: Strube Eeter Edited by: Strube Eeter on 01/09/2011 22:24:09 As well as the excitement of warping in to a mission with cruise missile launchers and shield boosters offline I seem to have the bonus pleasure of not being able to take any other ships into the site if I come back to a station and try and swap over. The other ships won't warp to the mission location and for some reason I can't open the mission briefing in the journal while out of the station in a different ship. If I redock and change back to the original mission ship then undock again I can both open the journal and warp to the mission. Not good Interesting... so it's not just me. I was rather exhausted last night when this happened but restarting the client fixed it... However... odd that switching ships would break the mission interface (!) - iirc it also does not allow you to talk to your agent through your journal. Running the rest of this epic arc is going to be a blast!
Salpun Gallente Paramount Commerce	Posted - 2011.09.02 13:59:00 - [104] Originally by: Cyniac Originally by: Strube Eeter Edited by: Strube Eeter on 01/09/2011 22:24:09 As well as the excitement of warping in to a mission with cruise missile launchers and shield boosters offline I seem to have the bonus pleasure of not being able to take any other ships into the site if I come back to a station and try and swap over. The other ships won't warp to the mission location and for some reason I can't open the mission briefing in the journal while out of the station in a different ship. If I redock and change back to the original mission ship then undock again I can both open the journal and warp to the mission. Not good Interesting... so it's not just me. I was rather exhausted last night when this happened but restarting the client fixed it... However... odd that switching ships would break the mission interface (!) - iirc it also does not allow you to talk to your agent through your journal. Running the rest of this epic arc is going to be a blast! Its fixed all ready
Malcanis Caldari Vanishing Point. The Initiative.	Posted - 2011.09.02 14:02:00 - [105] Originally by: Tippia I wonderà àwhen are they going to let the "no sec level check for bombs/dictor spheres" bug slip throught to TQ? Because that was a really fun one. Brb, getting bomber alt to Jita as fast as I can WHO'S WITH ME? Malcanis' Law: Whenever a mechanics change is proposed on behalf of "new players", that change is always to the overwhelming advantage of richer, older players.
Ghoest	Posted - 2011.09.02 14:17:00 - [106] Originally by: CCP Zymurgist We no long employ anyone who knows what they are doing. I fixed that for you. Wherever you went - Here you are.
Cyniac Gallente Twilight Star Rangers	Posted - 2011.09.04 20:24:00 - [107] Originally by: Salpun Its fixed all ready If that is so... why did it happen less than two hours ago? (On a gallente epic arc mission though) Mostly fixed though so it seems.
Jackson Brown	Posted - 2011.09.04 23:12:00 - [108] Bug still exists. Not fixed. More fail.
JSquared Caldari Quantum Warfare Research and Development Quantum Alliance	Posted - 2011.09.05 01:11:00 - [109] Why even have SiSi? Shut it down, save some power.. Hire MORE QC guys because clearly it takes more QC guys to screw in the light bulb then you already have. On the plus side.. you now have a "feature" to list in yet another client patch I'll have to pause to download next time I play because you could not get it right the first or second time. Patch notes: Feature - Ships no longer need to be re-docked to online modules that have mysteriously gone off line when changing ships. We have added a session timer to ship changes to make ship changes faster then they where before. See how that works? Feels like that's kind of stuff you monkeys have been doing for the last few years. sigh
Hevymetal Caldari POT Corp	Posted - 2011.09.05 03:41:00 - [110] Rarely do I even bother responding to these kind of threads because little to nothing ever results from them however in this case I will pitch in my $.02. What the heck is going on there in Iceland other then massive alcohol and drug ingestion? Bugs are a fact of life in software development but as any good programmer knows beta and bug testing IS important. How could something like this make it in a production release? Whoever is in charge of this department should be drawn and quartered. Get some competent people in there who will actually take their jobs seriously. CCP wonders why they are the laughing stock of the MMO world and are losing customers like rats off a sinking ship. This is one of WAY too many blunders in recent months to even list or count. To be blunt and concise CCP needs to get their head out of the bankers ass and focus on releasing QUALITY expansions that have at least passed a 2nd grade assessment and testing. DON'T let mismanagement and delusions of incompetent employees prevent you from focusing on you roots (The Playerbase). If your not even going to listen to bug reports/player suggestions then don't bother insulting us by asking for it. </rant off> Hevymetal BANG!! BANG!! BANG!! STOP OR I'LL SHOOT!!!



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