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Gallentia Walmart
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Posted - 2005.03.03 07:40:00 -
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I have heard stories of people getting well over 500K LP for these 2 factions and not getting a BP offer for the ships.
Stats on the Eve-i object explorer seem to be placeholders.
Does anyone know if ships these are in game yet and if not, when they will be?
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Tisti
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Posted - 2005.03.03 08:34:00 -
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with 200k LP I didn't even get a FRIG offer... SO they are probobly not ingame? CCP? Whats true now?
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NEvara
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Posted - 2005.03.03 10:05:00 -
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They are ingame the offers just became like a lottery think
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Zrakor
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Posted - 2005.03.03 10:32:00 -
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There are no faction (Navy) ship offers for any factions other than these:
Amarr Empire, Gallente Federation, Minmatar Republic, Caldari State, Angel Cartel, Serpentis, Blood Raider, Sansha's Nation and Guristas Pirates.
We have no plans currently of adding in the other faction ships for players to use.
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VossKarr
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Posted - 2005.03.03 10:50:00 -
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Originally by: Zrakor There are no faction (Navy) ship offers for any factions other than these:
Amarr Empire, Gallente Federation, Minmatar Republic, Caldari State, Angel Cartel, Serpentis, Blood Raider, Sansha's Nation and Guristas Pirates.
We have no plans currently of adding in the other faction ships for players to use.
Ouuuuuuuuch! 
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theRaptor
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Posted - 2005.03.03 10:55:00 -
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Originally by: Zrakor There are no faction (Navy) ship offers for any factions other than these:
Amarr Empire, Gallente Federation, Minmatar Republic, Caldari State, Angel Cartel, Serpentis, Blood Raider, Sansha's Nation and Guristas Pirates.
We have no plans currently of adding in the other faction ships for players to use.
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Gungankllr
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Posted - 2005.03.03 11:16:00 -
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Originally by: Zrakor There are no faction (Navy) ship offers for any factions other than these:
Amarr Empire, Gallente Federation, Minmatar Republic, Caldari State, Angel Cartel, Serpentis, Blood Raider, Sansha's Nation and Guristas Pirates.
We have no plans currently of adding in the other faction ships for players to use.
Not that I do Mordus missions, but for the folks that were doing those missions for nothing other than a Faction Ship, is there anything worthwhile in their LP tables that won't make them feel as if they have wasted several months for nothing?
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Hamish
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Posted - 2005.03.03 11:54:00 -
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+5 implant at 450k ?
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Zrakor
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Posted - 2005.03.03 12:02:00 -
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Originally by: Gungankllr
Originally by: Zrakor There are no faction (Navy) ship offers for any factions other than these:
Amarr Empire, Gallente Federation, Minmatar Republic, Caldari State, Angel Cartel, Serpentis, Blood Raider, Sansha's Nation and Guristas Pirates.
We have no plans currently of adding in the other faction ships for players to use.
Not that I do Mordus missions, but for the folks that were doing those missions for nothing other than a Faction Ship, is there anything worthwhile in their LP tables that won't make them feel as if they have wasted several months for nothing?
I believe their highest LP offers are implants. We'll be adding more high LP offers to them later. But generally if you want a Navy ship, work for the factions I mentioned above.
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capt
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Posted - 2005.03.03 12:09:00 -
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Originally by: Zrakor
Originally by: Gungankllr
Originally by: Zrakor There are no faction (Navy) ship offers for any factions other than these:
Amarr Empire, Gallente Federation, Minmatar Republic, Caldari State, Angel Cartel, Serpentis, Blood Raider, Sansha's Nation and Guristas Pirates.
We have no plans currently of adding in the other faction ships for players to use.
Not that I do Mordus missions, but for the folks that were doing those missions for nothing other than a Faction Ship, is there anything worthwhile in their LP tables that won't make them feel as if they have wasted several months for nothing?
I believe their highest LP offers are implants. We'll be adding more high LP offers to them later. But generally if you want a Navy ship, work for the factions I mentioned above.
Nothing personal, but I think a lot of people would have benefitted if this information was given a bit earlier, say like 2 months earlier or something........
If I had been slaving and crunching missions for Mordus (to name an example) the last 2 months with the only goal obtaining a faction ship then I would feel truly p**** off right about now.
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Zrakor
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Posted - 2005.03.03 12:15:00 -
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Originally by: capt
Nothing personal, but I think a lot of people would have benefitted if this information was given a bit earlier, say like 2 months earlier or something........
If I had been slaving and crunching missions for Mordus (to name an example) the last 2 months with the only goal obtaining a faction ship then I would feel truly p**** off right about now.
Well, I think it was mentioned in a dev blog or dev chat. This is not actually an offer issue, more of an issue with these ships not being available (despite some of them being in the database, they aren't ready for use). If the ships become available, you will see them in the offer system soon after.
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Lefevre
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Posted - 2005.03.03 18:22:00 -
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Originally by: Zrakor
Well, I think it was mentioned in a dev blog or dev chat. This is not actually an offer issue, more of an issue with these ships not being available (despite some of them being in the database, they aren't ready for use). If the ships become available, you will see them in the offer system soon after.
Could you at least inform us when those ships make it ingame? Until I saw this post I had to run to Pure Blind each time I declined an offer hoping that the next agent offer would be for that faction frigate that I am now told is impossible to get .
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Poding
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Posted - 2005.03.04 12:05:00 -
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Oh Great!
Time to pack up and move to another Agent then =/
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Gallentia Walmart
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Posted - 2005.03.04 12:16:00 -
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so, presumably there is still something worthwhile getting in the LP offers from Ammatar and Mordus anyway, right? # A Faction Battleship isn't the be all and end all, but it would be nice to know what, if anything, we can expect to gain from Ammatar/Mordus ie is the lack of faction ships compensated for those players doing these factions?
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Shirei
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Posted - 2005.03.04 13:26:00 -
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Originally by: Gallentia Walmart so, presumably there is still something worthwhile getting in the LP offers from Ammatar and Mordus anyway, right? # A Faction Battleship isn't the be all and end all, but it would be nice to know what, if anything, we can expect to gain from Ammatar/Mordus ie is the lack of faction ships compensated for those players doing these factions?
They get offers for higher level attribute implants at high LP as far as I know.
I'm not sure if empire navies also give those implant offers or not though.
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X'Alor
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Posted - 2005.03.04 14:46:00 -
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[insert smiley blowing a raspberry here] pppppppppppppp
wicked ouch. was so hoping there was some sort of khanid factions ships available. That black officer aurgorer is pretty looking but we got the sacralicious.
Was praying for some kind of BS like the sac blend(nightmare)
Please oh please adapt the nightmare as a faction release for khanid, it's the perfect ship to represent khanid blending.
Prettttyyyyyy Pleaseeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
I'll send two cases of that fancy american microbrew.
What's that address over there and whom do i post as attention to?????
It'd be so easy to adapt an offer to it.
"hey X' we captured this sansha commander and his ship is still intact. Are you interested??????"
hell even make a million LP
I'll send 4 cases. 
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X'Alor
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Posted - 2005.03.04 14:58:00 -
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mmmmmmmm got thinking tho. Khanid Navy Apoc
Or a pretty black chrome khanid navy Apoc with around same stats as normal apoc
bit less armor hp, bit more shield, bit less grid, about same cap and recharge, 4 launchers, 4 turrets, extra mid slot, and a bit better resistances on armor than standard apoc.
and it's black chrome mmmmmmmmmmmmm 
"As i get in a fight with the people at UPS, I don't care if you can't ship liquid in glass bottles. Get these ten cases to iceland and address it attention Zrakor NOW DAMNIT" 
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ElCoCo
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Posted - 2005.03.04 15:34:00 -
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I would have imagined it would be reeeeeeeal easy to add a new ship in the game.... should take like 10minutes of coding -besides the texture stuff ofc.
Well I guess the few ppl that do that kind of missions are not enough to bother with 
However.... erm... zrakor... c'mon, it can't be that hard can it?
This was another wild goose chase for some ppl... I talked to some that are waaaay unhappy 
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X'Alor
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Posted - 2005.03.04 16:33:00 -
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My boss just walked by and wondered why I'm on my knees bowing to my puter looking like I'm praying to mecca.
I said, "it's not mecca, it's the zrakor god."
I wouldn't think it'd be that hard either.
they already got the ships, change the numbers a bit. an extra slot here, drop a slot there, little boost there little nerf here and whamo, a full on missle loadout here, a full on gun boat there, a blend 50/50 turret missle combo. new shield tankers, armor tankers. fancy a blend ship with equal 6/6 mid and low slots with = armor and shield hp. change the paint and your done.
I'd love to offer my assitance in the idea make up. free of charge if it's a lck of persons and resources.
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Ysabelle nKataros
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Posted - 2005.03.04 19:00:00 -
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are there any plans to include Navy Issues of interceptor/assault/HACs? -------- MAcheTT3 > Hehe, ok... How much would you take them off for? |

Tisti
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Posted - 2005.03.04 19:40:00 -
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Thanks a LOT... 0.0 agents... AND NO FRACTION SHIP OFFER? Where did "Risk vs Reward" go? 0.0 offers are even WORSE then EMPIRE offers.. Ah yes..
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Kurron
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Posted - 2005.03.04 20:54:00 -
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Originally by: Tisti Thanks a LOT... 0.0 agents... AND NO FRACTION SHIP OFFER?
I now have the mental image of you flying half a Raven. Thanks.
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Randay
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Posted - 2005.03.04 21:47:00 -
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Originally by: Kurron
Originally by: Tisti Thanks a LOT... 0.0 agents... AND NO FRACTION SHIP OFFER?
I now have the mental image of you flying half a Raven. Thanks.
or... 16 eighths of a raven.
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Tisti
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Posted - 2005.03.05 13:09:00 -
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Edited by: Tisti on 05/03/2005 13:14:02
Originally by: Kurron
Originally by: Tisti Thanks a LOT... 0.0 agents... AND NO FRACTION SHIP OFFER?
I now have the mental image of you flying half a Raven. Thanks.
Is it beautiful?
Edit: Whats the other half of the ship? A tempest?
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Azel Asi
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Posted - 2005.03.05 15:31:00 -
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They're poking fun at your use of the word fraction instead of faction.
How many Turrents on that thing?
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Tisti
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Posted - 2005.03.05 15:35:00 -
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Bah... So I add/remove a letter there and here...

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Zaintiraris
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Posted - 2005.03.05 20:06:00 -
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Noooo! All my work for ammatar, completely wasted. Now I can at least treat them like 2nd class citizen amarr or something... ---
Originally by: CCP Hammer This game was so much better back before people knew math.
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GIZMOdk
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Posted - 2005.03.05 22:24:00 -
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Well aint that gr8. IŠv been working a surtant part of my body of the last couple of months for MorduŠs Legion  Nobody is perfect im nobody.... |

Martinus Crimson
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Posted - 2005.03.05 22:47:00 -
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Edited by: Martinus Crimson on 05/03/2005 22:47:05 Missioned my ass of .... 200K LP and NOW you tell me there are no faction ships for my faction.
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El Yatta
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Posted - 2005.03.05 23:31:00 -
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Come on, anyone who looked at the eve-i stats (ie anyone interesting in faction ship offers) would have instantly spotted that the stats are based tech 1 caldari stats for both mordus and ammatar, like raven and moa stats, and could have easily deduced that there are no faction ships. I cant beleive you're all so surprised. Besides, a +5 implant would land you in money city, so use that to buy a faction ship. ---:::---
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Zaintiraris
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Posted - 2005.03.05 23:51:00 -
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Originally by: El Yatta Come on, anyone who looked at the eve-i stats (ie anyone interesting in faction ship offers) would have instantly spotted that the stats are based tech 1 caldari stats for both mordus and ammatar, like raven and moa stats, and could have easily deduced that there are no faction ships. I cant beleive you're all so surprised. Besides, a +5 implant would land you in money city, so use that to buy a faction ship.
Didn't stop me hoping.  ---
Originally by: CCP Hammer This game was so much better back before people knew math.
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Edison Frisk
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Posted - 2005.03.06 10:33:00 -
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Edited by: Edison Frisk on 06/03/2005 10:37:45
Originally by: Zrakor
Originally by: Gungankllr
Originally by: Zrakor There are no faction (Navy) ship offers for any factions other than these:
Amarr Empire, Gallente Federation, Minmatar Republic, Caldari State, Angel Cartel, Serpentis, Blood Raider, Sansha's Nation and Guristas Pirates.
We have no plans currently of adding in the other faction ships for players to use.
Not that I do Mordus missions, but for the folks that were doing those missions for nothing other than a Faction Ship, is there anything worthwhile in their LP tables that won't make them feel as if they have wasted several months for nothing?
I believe their highest LP offers are implants. We'll be adding more high LP offers to them later. But generally if you want a Navy ship, work for the factions I mentioned above.
When you say work for the factions are we talking about their respective navys? I mean I can do level 4 missions with Brutor tribe now, do they give out BS with certain amount of LP's??
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jide
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Posted - 2005.03.08 16:23:00 -
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And I was getting excited of finally getting close to 500k with my Ammatar agent. Now I have to start over. That would be really nice if the addition of those ammatar navy battleships and mordus battleships could be set on the high priority list. I mean, all the other ones are in. Why not those two ?
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KrakizBad
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Posted - 2005.03.08 19:06:00 -
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I think that sucks. I also think there should be faction haulers though.
No luv 4 teh industry!
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KrakizBad
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Posted - 2005.03.10 18:34:00 -
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They way it is going, ccp is saying that busting your butt for Khanid isn't worth as much as one of the other factions. Even +4 implants are a lot cheaper than any faction cruiser or bs. Not sure what lp for one is cause haven't gotten either though, or the other requirements. Just from what i'm reading it seems like sucks to be working for one of the non main factions.
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Vincent Rainbow
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Posted - 2005.03.24 09:33:00 -
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its 100k LP for a +4 implant from Ammatar plus a lot of other crap you have to buy
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RichThugster
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Posted - 2005.03.24 10:03:00 -
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Originally by: Vincent Rainbow its 100k LP for a +4 implant from Ammatar plus a lot of other crap you have to buy
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Zrakor
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Posted - 2005.03.24 12:00:00 -
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Originally by: Tisti Thanks a LOT... 0.0 agents... AND NO FRACTION SHIP OFFER? Where did "Risk vs Reward" go? 0.0 offers are even WORSE then EMPIRE offers.. Ah yes..
The faction ship offers are not based on security status. You can find plenty of agents that dish out faction ship offers in 0.0, f.ex. the pirate agents.
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MutationZ
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Posted - 2005.03.24 14:49:00 -
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So if I do missions for Republic Security Services can I get a ship offer? (don't quite understand factions /races / cults / companies )
Or are mining crystals my best bet?
And when is Soon (TM)?
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Joshua Foiritain
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Posted - 2005.03.24 14:58:00 -
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Originally by: MutationZ So if I do missions for Republic Security Services can I get a ship offer?
Yeah you can since the Republic Security Services are a member of the Minmatar Republic. ---------------------------
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Valentine Keen
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Posted - 2005.03.25 11:23:00 -
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All that time on Ammatar missions wasted. 
Sheesh, roleplaying in the game is hard enough without CCP treating these sub-empires as second class for missions too. 
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Nero Scuro
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Posted - 2005.03.25 12:51:00 -
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If we're talking about missed oppurtunitys on faction battleship, what about the Mercenary Overlord (can't rememeber the exact name... Something like that)? That ship just looked COOL. I want one, and I don't CARE what the stats are.  ---------------- Haha, stupid monkey! Now I'VE got the Oscar! Enjoy your worthless gun! |

Joshua Foiritain
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Posted - 2005.03.25 14:19:00 -
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Originally by: Nero Scuro If we're talking about missed oppurtunitys on faction battleship, what about the Mercenary Overlord (can't rememeber the exact name... Something like that)? That ship just looked COOL. I want one, and I don't CARE what the stats are. 
It uses the Arch Angel Battleship model  ---------------------------
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X'Alor
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Posted - 2005.03.25 15:05:00 -
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I don't care about the attribute implants at this point myself ....... all my trains are 3 weeks up to about 37 days or better so it's not like I'm in a "hurry" anymore.
as far as all those fancy hardwires however. the ones that have cybernetics 5 as a prereq. wellllllll. Keep'em coming.
Praying for a 5% to large energy turrets implant and the 5% to all turrets implant, got a 3% to large turrets that dropped from the amarr navy fleet commander. Oh ya isn't that one of the two hard to find tags for the nightmare LP offer.......
Dang, shame that ended up in my hands. will only sell it for one thing. the nightmare 1 run BPC unused. oh the irony. hehe
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Liet Traep
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Posted - 2005.03.26 02:05:00 -
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I've been doing missions for the brutor tribe. Would that give me republic fleet offers or not?
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Aiken Drum
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Posted - 2005.03.27 18:52:00 -
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It'll give you Minmatar faction ship offers, as far as I know. quiver in fear, meat sock |

Alexxi Ljung
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Posted - 2005.08.04 10:57:00 -
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Being as Zoar and sons come under the amarr banner do they give ships out as their top rewards? or just stuff like implants
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Jet Collins
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Posted - 2005.08.04 13:04:00 -
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This information was available when the missions stated to come out. Just do your reseach people.
Don't feel bad for your stupidity.
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Na'Axin
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Posted - 2005.08.04 13:13:00 -
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yeah but this thread dates back from exactly that time... yay for thread necromancy 
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