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Wu Jiaqiu
Heretic Army Heretic Nation
53
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Posted - 2012.09.26 21:37:00 -
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The current Tempest is beautiful **** you.
I fell in love with the concept of cheaply thrown together spaceships. The Tempest? That piece of **** looks like some Matar engineers in a hurry, had to cut off a piece of an equally ugly station and stick some guns on it because there was no time for design. And it's perfect. The Stabber seems like the entire core was centered off a structure pillar and I'm fine with that.
Why is everyone obsessed with making Minmatars look more futuristic akin to the Amarr or Gallente? The Minmatar is supposed to be the least advanced. The look rugged scrap look goes well with it.
The Maelstrom is the most ugliest ship I've ever seen for the Minmatar.
In rust I trust. |

Khergit Deserters
Gallente Federation
132
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Posted - 2012.09.26 21:40:00 -
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I agree with everything above, except Rupture is the most ugliest Minmatar ship I've ever seen. Keep Minmatar ugly! Everybody knows Min technology is going backwards, not forwards. |

Darius Brinn
Iberians Iberians.
117
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Posted - 2012.09.26 22:17:00 -
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[quote=Wu Jiaqi
Why is everyone obsessed with making Minmatars look more futuristic akin to the Amarr or Gallente? The Minmatar is supposed to be the least advanced. The look rugged scrap look goes well with it. [/quote]
I don't usually argue in terms of taste and aesthetic opinions.
However, I have realized that Minmatar hulls are NOT SUBJECTIVE. Compare this, which is FUGLY under any light:
http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcS0s_88UIU8Qcui6TTV7He67zB469OhwSrZwNDcJK_2SeDIF6QZVdt5UeMn
With this, which is pure and concentrated win:
http://content.eveonline.com/www/newssystem/media/63391/1/stabber_s.jpg
And you will conclude two things:
-You CAN indeed modernize the Minmatar and at the same time keeping their distinct and unique looks. -You are utterly and terribly wrong. Yes, I know you can't be wrong in your favourite looks for something. But STILL, you are wrong.
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Saede Riordan
Alexylva Paradox
509
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Posted - 2012.09.26 22:23:00 -
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Yeah, I quite look the remodels of the Matari hulls, they still look cobbled together, just more solidly so.
Torn from grace, gotta find your faith or the devils gonna claim your soul
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Paul Oliver
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
4164
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Posted - 2012.09.26 22:23:00 -
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Wu Jiaqiu wrote:The current Tempest is beautiful **** you. I fell in love with the concept of cheaply thrown together spaceships. The Tempest? That piece of **** looks like some Matar engineers in a hurry, had to cut off a piece of an equally ugly station and stick some guns on it because there was no time for design. And it's perfect. The Stabber seems like the entire core was centered off a structure pillar and I'm fine with that. Why is everyone obsessed with making Minmatars look more futuristic akin to the Amarr or Gallente? The Minmatar is supposed to be the least advanced. The look rugged scrap look goes well with it. The Maelstrom is the most ugliest ship I've ever seen for the Minmatar.  In rust I trust. Sorry man but the rustbucket least advanced argument doesn't really work anymore. Its been generations since the Minmatar rebellion, a time when ships were crudely made and primitive due to resource shortages and lack of skilled personel, that time has long since passed, and the Sebiestor are supposed to be some of the greatest engineers in the cluster, isn't it about time Minmatar ships began to reflect that? "Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom must undergo the fatigues of supporting it." - Thomas Paine |

Touval Lysander
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
141
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Posted - 2012.09.26 22:27:00 -
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Wu Jiaqiu wrote:The current Tempest is beautiful **** you. I fell in love with the concept of cheaply thrown together spaceships. The Tempest? That piece of **** looks like some Matar engineers in a hurry, had to cut off a piece of an equally ugly station and stick some guns on it because there was no time for design. And it's perfect. The Stabber seems like the entire core was centered off a structure pillar and I'm fine with that. Why is everyone obsessed with making Minmatars look more futuristic akin to the Amarr or Gallente? The Minmatar is supposed to be the least advanced. The look rugged scrap look goes well with it. The Maelstrom is the most ugliest ship I've ever seen for the Minmatar.  In rust I trust. What's that saying? Beauty is in the eye......
Better an ugly scrapheap challenge creation that goes BANG than a symmetrical piece of fine engineering that goes POP.
And hey, when was the last time you saw a pretty world champion boxer? |

Paul Oliver
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
4168
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Posted - 2012.09.26 22:28:00 -
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Touval Lysander wrote:Better an ugly scrapheap challenge creation that goes BANG than a symmetrical piece of fine engineering that goes POP.
And hey, when was the last time you saw a pretty world champion boxer? Brutix would like a word with you...
"Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom must undergo the fatigues of supporting it." - Thomas Paine |

James 315
Experimental Fun Times Corp
2824
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Posted - 2012.09.26 22:29:00 -
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I agree, keep the Minmatar ships' character. However, if you can make them look like a Nyx, I may change my mind... 
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Saede Riordan
Alexylva Paradox
509
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Posted - 2012.09.26 22:33:00 -
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I don't really feel this is that much of a departure from existing minmatar designs. They still look very minmatar. Its sort of neo-scrap. tbh, the new direction of the Caldari and Gallente ships has me much more ehhhhhhhh.
Torn from grace, gotta find your faith or the devils gonna claim your soul
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HostageTaker
Band of Freelancers
9
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Posted - 2012.09.26 22:58:00 -
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Wu Jiaqiu wrote:The Maelstrom is the most ugliest ship I've ever seen for the Minmatar.  In rust I trust.
So you like rust eh!
I'm restoring my classic 1969 Pontiac Firebird, you can come over to my place anytime and have as much rust as you want! Bring a bucket or two...

I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Titans on fire outside "The Alamo" of NOL-M9. I watched massive Super Capital fleets glitter in the dark near the BKG-Q2 gate. All those moments will be lost in time... like tears in rain... -á Time to die. |

Shizuken
Venerated Stars
95
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Posted - 2012.09.26 23:03:00 -
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Khergit Deserters wrote:I agree with everything above, except Rupture is the most ugliest Minmatar ship I've ever seen. Keep Minmatar ugly! Everybody knows Min technology is going backwards, not forwards.
It seems to me that minmatar ships should look more Amarr than they do, seeing as how they were once their slaves... |

Destru Kaneda
CTRL-Q Iron Oxide.
70
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Posted - 2012.09.26 23:03:00 -
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The new Tempest gives me an erection, so no, **** you.
PS: Ruppies are ugly as sin. Music for robots, geeks, hackers, and nerds. Nerdiest homepage on the internet? |

MotherMoon
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
1134
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Posted - 2012.09.26 23:39:00 -
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stop your face http://dl.eve-files.com/media/1206/scimi.jpg |

MotherMoon
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
1134
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Posted - 2012.09.26 23:40:00 -
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Touval Lysander wrote:Wu Jiaqiu wrote:The current Tempest is beautiful **** you. I fell in love with the concept of cheaply thrown together spaceships. The Tempest? That piece of **** looks like some Matar engineers in a hurry, had to cut off a piece of an equally ugly station and stick some guns on it because there was no time for design. And it's perfect. The Stabber seems like the entire core was centered off a structure pillar and I'm fine with that. Why is everyone obsessed with making Minmatars look more futuristic akin to the Amarr or Gallente? The Minmatar is supposed to be the least advanced. The look rugged scrap look goes well with it. The Maelstrom is the most ugliest ship I've ever seen for the Minmatar.  In rust I trust. What's that saying? Beauty is in the eye...... Better an ugly scrapheap challenge creation that goes BANG than a symmetrical piece of fine engineering that goes POP. And hey, when was the last time you saw a pretty world champion boxer? the new tempest isn't symmetrical just fyi http://dl.eve-files.com/media/1206/scimi.jpg |

Evei Shard
118
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Posted - 2012.09.26 23:46:00 -
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Are the Minmatar a race still completely enslaved by the Amarr, or are the a functioning Republic that stands on it's own and is capable of building it's own space stations and stargates? They can maintain a look and feel, but in the sense of Eve lore, the Republic has come a long way. Duct-taped rust heaps are the mark of a group that is desperate and short on resources. The size of the Minmatar Republic in New Eden doesn't really reflect that. Profit favors the prepared |

Grumpymunky
Super Monkey Tribe of Danger
564
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Posted - 2012.09.26 23:49:00 -
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Does the new more solid appearance come with an increase in hitpoints? Post with your monkey. |

Roll Sizzle Beef
Space Mutiny
1089
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Posted - 2012.09.26 23:52:00 -
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It's really not the new shapes. The new brown base color for civilians is the departure of rust we trust. Needs better skin with textured hull plates layered lovingly over a light frame. They already showed concepts of hull damage showing interior decks. http://youtu.be/-Z0ndjcRiZU?t=9m3s They can use this to show gaps in minmi structures (without it on fire)... (yet) |

Herr Hammer Draken
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
111
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Posted - 2012.09.26 23:56:00 -
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HostageTaker wrote:Wu Jiaqiu wrote:The Maelstrom is the most ugliest ship I've ever seen for the Minmatar.  In rust I trust. So you like rust eh! I'm restoring my classic 1969 Pontiac Firebird, you can come over to my place anytime and have as much rust as you want! Bring a bucket or two... 
Cool! My favorite the 69'. Are you going to put the wingy bits on it? Herr Hammer Draken "The Amarr Prophet" |

Jace Errata
Lawlz Brawlz
281
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Posted - 2012.09.27 00:00:00 -
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Several of the old Minnie models have graphical issues that make them look like crap (NOT scrap), plus of course capsuleer iteration+Minmatar improvement should change hulls over time. Stealth OST puns and blatant lies since 2009 Jace Errata on Twitter
One day they woke me up so I could live forever It's such a shame the same will never happen to you |

stoicfaux
1686
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Posted - 2012.09.27 00:02:00 -
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Seriously, the sole reason why Minmatar ships are so fast is because they don't get weighed down by being "up to code" or by otherwise having frivolous safety devices. Driving a rust bucket is a palace compared to living under the Amarr.
tl;dr - KidsClones nowadays have it so goddamn easy and don't even realize it.
You can tell me what is and isn't Truth when you pry the tinfoil from my cold, lifeless head. Feature Request: -áDamnation Ship Codpiece-áfor the NeX store.
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Krell Kroenen
Miners In Possession Brothers of Apocrypha.
40
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Posted - 2012.09.27 00:03:00 -
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Paul Oliver wrote:Wu Jiaqiu wrote:The current Tempest is beautiful **** you. I fell in love with the concept of cheaply thrown together spaceships. The Tempest? That piece of **** looks like some Matar engineers in a hurry, had to cut off a piece of an equally ugly station and stick some guns on it because there was no time for design. And it's perfect. The Stabber seems like the entire core was centered off a structure pillar and I'm fine with that. Why is everyone obsessed with making Minmatars look more futuristic akin to the Amarr or Gallente? The Minmatar is supposed to be the least advanced. The look rugged scrap look goes well with it. The Maelstrom is the most ugliest ship I've ever seen for the Minmatar.  In rust I trust. Sorry man but the rustbucket least advanced argument doesn't really work anymore. Its been generations since the Minmatar rebellion, a time when ships were crudely made and primitive due to resource shortages and lack of skilled personel, that time has long since passed, and the Sebiestor are supposed to be some of the greatest engineers in the cluster, isn't it about time Minmatar ships began to reflect that? Also roleplay reasons aside, all those antennae sticking off the old hulls alias like crazy, I'm glad CCP has abandoned those in the modernized designs, overall the new textures are much smoother looking, well done CCP.
I agree it only makes sense, the minmatar no longer have their backs against the wall and it's about time they start producing solid ships after all these years. Least advanced? by what measure? They have designed and built their own T3 ship class let alone titan and super carrier class. |

Herping yourDerp
Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic
772
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Posted - 2012.09.27 01:14:00 -
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minmitar ships should be rustier but also needs less resist/base EHP |

Touval Lysander
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
142
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Posted - 2012.09.27 01:41:00 -
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Herping yourDerp wrote:minmitar ships should be rustier but also needs less resist/base EHP Reminds me of the nice shiney WW II P-52 Mustang.
"But they are not camoflauged" said the RAF pilot , "you'll be seen for miles".
"Cool" said the USAF pilot, "hate for them to miss us". |

Grumpymunky
Super Monkey Tribe of Danger
564
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Posted - 2012.09.27 01:47:00 -
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Touval Lysander wrote:P-52 Mustang What? 
Post with your monkey. |

HostageTaker
Band of Freelancers
10
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Posted - 2012.09.27 01:52:00 -
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Herr Hammer Draken wrote:HostageTaker wrote:Wu Jiaqiu wrote:The Maelstrom is the most ugliest ship I've ever seen for the Minmatar.  In rust I trust. So you like rust eh! I'm restoring my classic 1969 Pontiac Firebird, you can come over to my place anytime and have as much rust as you want! Bring a bucket or two...  Cool! My favorite the 69'. Are you going to put the wingy bits on it?
She already has the "wingy bit" on the deck lid. Not the ****** '69 Camaro spoiler that most clueless people put on; the correct Trans-Am wing.
( I cringe at the sight of a First Gen Firebird with Camaro parts on it, especially the '69 Camaro quarter panels on '69 'birds, that's just wrong! )
Any PMD owner or fan will know exactly what I'm referring to... I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Titans on fire outside "The Alamo" of NOL-M9. I watched massive Super Capital fleets glitter in the dark near the BKG-Q2 gate. All those moments will be lost in time... like tears in rain... -á Time to die. |

Marcus Caspius
66
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Posted - 2012.09.27 01:55:00 -
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Wu Jiaqiu wrote:The current Tempest is beautiful **** you. I fell in love with the concept of cheaply thrown together spaceships. The Tempest? That piece of **** looks like some Matar engineers in a hurry, had to cut off a piece of an equally ugly station and stick some guns on it because there was no time for design. And it's perfect. The Stabber seems like the entire core was centered off a structure pillar and I'm fine with that. Why is everyone obsessed with making Minmatars look more futuristic akin to the Amarr or Gallente? The Minmatar is supposed to be the least advanced. The look rugged scrap look goes well with it. The Maelstrom is the most ugliest ship I've ever seen for the Minmatar.  In rust I trust.
I strongly agree with this! There was a certain romanticism about the origins of the Minmatar and they fact that their ship building tech was a result of make-do can-do philosophy.
  Oxidation Persuasion FTW!  
Grammatical error and spelling mistakes are included for your entertainment!
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Dennis Gregs
Dawn of Fire
73
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Posted - 2012.09.27 01:56:00 -
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I like the new hulls. |

James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation RAZOR Alliance
750
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Posted - 2012.09.27 01:59:00 -
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I like the new Minmatar models, save for the Reaper. I hope they continue down the path they are now. http://themittani.com/features/local-problem
A simple fix to the local intel problem |

Utremi Fasolasi
La Dolce Vita
93
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Posted - 2012.09.27 02:22:00 -
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And how long has that Gallente collaboration been going on now? |

Touval Lysander
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
142
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Posted - 2012.09.27 02:23:00 -
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Grumpymunky wrote:Touval Lysander wrote:P-52 Mustang What?  It's an airplane. It's got wings and stuff. |
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