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Cephelange du'Krevviq
Hephaestus LLC Get Off My Lawn
68
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Posted - 2012.10.04 22:07:00 -
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Raiko Osburn wrote:I am not affraid of AFK cloakers. I fly ships, I can afford to loose. I realy think about being AFK in game and what effects it has on players.
The only effect it has on players is what those players allow it to have on them. Period, end of story. Please get the ******* memo, already. |

Cedo Nulli
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
249
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Posted - 2012.10.05 03:45:00 -
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When im not doing anything special at my house I allways light up a huge neon sign on the roof that says AFK. No reason why I wouldnt do that in the hostile coldness of space too ... right ? |

Mallak Azaria
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
688
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Posted - 2012.10.05 03:58:00 -
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Othran wrote:No, its a crap idea which has been suggested by dozens, if not hundreds of people like you - people who are scared of a player who is not even playing the game. 
This & getting around such a flag is easily circumvented. Mining Barge buff: CCP-áhas acknowledged that miners in general-áare too stupid to make the correct fitting choices to make ganking them unprofitable. |

Caldaeron
Moon In Scorpio RED.OverLord
1
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Posted - 2012.10.08 23:07:00 -
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AFK flag that anyone can see would take away one form of psychological warfare, but I'm all for automatic AFK flag that only corp members can see - no point in talking to a guy on TS or in corp channel if the guy is obviously AFK. Take it from IM apps: If you don't work on your computer for 2/5/10/w/e minutes, people on your contact list see your status change to "Away", and people you don't have on your contact list don't know your status at all. |

Donnerjack Wolfson
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
13
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Posted - 2012.10.09 18:28:00 -
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Why the **** would CONCORD (who controls the UI elements) give a **** whether you're paying attention or not?
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Beat General
Painkiller.
59
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Posted - 2012.10.09 23:17:00 -
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Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:Raiko Osburn wrote:
*I don't want to start another threat about cloaky AFKers in null. No, this is not about being cloaky and AFK. This is about being AFK in general*
Hmmm, somehow, I dont quite believe you. EDIT: FTFY  - ISD Type40.
These forums are slowly reaching communist china levels of censorship.
Its getting old. |

Mallak Azaria
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
793
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Posted - 2012.10.09 23:26:00 -
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Herping yourDerp wrote:yes its' a good idea you go "afk" after 20 minutes of not touching anything, but also you can set "afk" yourself, and the only way to get rid of it is to turn it off or relog. so when you log in if you want you can set yourself afk and play as normally just because you can.
In other games, I've avoided the afk flag altogether by jamming a coin between keys on the keyboard. An afk flag would solve nothing.
Crimewatch 2.0: Protecting stupid people & rewarding lazy people. This hurts the smart & industrious people by making their intelligence & industry provide them with less benefit over the stupid & lazy people. ~ Ruby Porto |

Borisk Zeltsh
Alcohlics Anonymous
19
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Posted - 2012.10.09 23:45:00 -
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More wow players coming to eve and expecting hello kitty online
keep your ideas and fu#k off back to wow we like eve cold and dark and unforgiving |

Schalac
Apocalypse Reign
91
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Posted - 2012.10.10 15:19:00 -
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Remove local, make people use constellation and keep it delayed for all sec of space. Keep Jita on it's own chat. After 30 mins of not talking on constellation you are removed from the list. |

Cerlin
Serious Internet Spaceship Holding Company IMPERIAL LEGI0N
7
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Posted - 2012.10.10 15:21:00 -
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This does not seem to fit into what eve is, it is just an attempt to make carebears life even easier for them to afk make cash....now with cloakies in local. |

Flurk Hellbron
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
108
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Posted - 2012.10.10 15:35:00 -
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Remove local.................. |

Cynthia Nezmor
Nezmor's Golden Griffins Amarr 7th Fleet
70
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Posted - 2012.10.12 11:21:00 -
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Just stick to high sec, nullbear. |

Myfanwy Heimdal
Heimdal Freight and Manufacture Inc
155
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Posted - 2012.10.13 15:51:00 -
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Lady Ayeipsia wrote: But remember, the op wants you to have a 30 second period where you cannot do anything once you return to your keyboard. So basically, you have to either type in a random chat every 30 minutes. Why do I see an increase in sales of the toy bird homer Simpson used in the episode where he gained weight to work at home.
Off topic and Real World true story
Many years ago I worked for a very strange, large, beauroractic (and now dead) company in Antwerp, Belgium, in the days of 16 bit computing.
One of my tasks was to compile all the code once every few weeks and then do a massive data run. This was fine but when the screen saver came on the run, which would take hours, would stop. The company decided that it was a sackable offence to remove the screensaver so I had to do something similar to keep the computer running.
I actually had the mouse wrapped around an orbital fan which dragged the mouse in a circle so I could leave the thing running for a few hours whilst doing something else.
Then one day security came and turned off the fan because 'no-one was there'...
Mind you, I am not surprised that the firm went bust; they used to have fire drills for one floor at a time because they knew that they couldn't get everyone out of the doors at the same time...
Ah, great times. |

Xolve
Amok. Goonswarm Federation
1167
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Posted - 2012.10.13 19:06:00 -
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Raiko Osburn wrote:So what do you think? Do we need AFK indicator? Imagine you could tell if someone is AFK or not. How much would this feature change your EVE experience?
Not WoW.
But Jesus would I have fun terrorizing the **** out of systems with an AFK Tag- This would be a silent buff to solo/small gang PvP as it would let us know exactly who is docked up and who is actually active.
Cynthia Nezmor wrote:Just stick to high sec, nullbear.
Everytime I see this, I laugh uncontrollably, stick to LowSec scrublord. Inappropriate signature removed. Navigator. |

Jalabaster
Lycosa Syndicate Surely You're Joking
13
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Posted - 2012.10.16 14:42:00 -
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lolz. There's already server down. Think of it as a 23 hour afk flag.
Seriously? A 30 second cooldown before you can act? Someone is afraid of something in local channel.
Personally I think it would be cool if nullsec entities had to have some sort of infrastructure set up to even get local channel in null.
I remember one of my very first thoughts logging into EVE. "WTF is this local channel crap?" "when a ship is blown up, the pilot usually winds up replacing it. This drives the economy, steadies inflation, and gives industrialists a reason to manufacture. In contrast, creating isk while never losing any items has the unfortunate reverse effect on the market, plus it isn't really any fun." Jala |

Raiko Osburn
Malevolent Intentions Ineluctable.
5
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Posted - 2012.10.17 08:27:00 -
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Jalabaster wrote:lolz. There's already server down. Think of it as a 23 hour afk flag.
Seriously? A 30 second cooldown before you can act? Someone is afraid of something in local channel.
Personally I think it would be cool if nullsec entities had to have some sort of infrastructure set up to even get local channel in null.
I remember one of my very first thoughts logging into EVE. "WTF is this local channel crap?"
Guys, think about idea, not about numbers. But some people will always play dumb and decide to throw away whole idea cause one number is not ok. Clap clap. Forget numbers, play with ideas. Look for solutions. If you want to decline idea, state reason based on more than just a imaginative number. And at last, this thread is not about cloaky afkers. Its about AFK flag in general. Not only for tactical purpose, but also for social purpose. Forget numbers, play with ideas, look for solutions. |

Maxpie
Metaphysical Utopian Society Explorations
196
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Posted - 2012.10.17 18:37:00 -
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I would like an afk indicator, but it should only be viewable in corp chat. |

Lady Ayeipsia
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
372
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Posted - 2012.10.17 19:18:00 -
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Raiko Osburn wrote:Jalabaster wrote:lolz. There's already server down. Think of it as a 23 hour afk flag.
Seriously? A 30 second cooldown before you can act? Someone is afraid of something in local channel.
Personally I think it would be cool if nullsec entities had to have some sort of infrastructure set up to even get local channel in null.
I remember one of my very first thoughts logging into EVE. "WTF is this local channel crap?" Guys, think about idea, not about numbers. But some people will always play dumb and decide to throw away whole idea cause one number is not ok. Clap clap. Forget numbers, play with ideas. Look for solutions. If you want to decline idea, state reason based on more than just a model number. And at last, this thread is not about cloaky afkers. Its about AFK flag in general. Not only for tactical purpose, but also for social purpose.
You seem too attached to this so called good idea. You talk about looking for solutions, to what? If people are afk, why does it matter to you? Why are you suggesting the additional load on the server because every so often the server has to check if people are present? What social value is there? If my friend is afk, he won't respond to my chat. No need to add extra code.
Also, as pointed out, there are simple ways to make it seem like someone is present.
So really, instead of asking us to talk about ideas, give us a valid reason to have an afk flag, a valid reason tgat justifies the code time required and any extra overhead in server checks this would impose.
Also, if this is mot about afk cloakers, then would your solution still be fine if having any active module negated the afk flag? |

Myfanwy Heimdal
Heimdal Freight and Manufacture Inc
155
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Posted - 2012.10.17 19:58:00 -
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Ism't this AFK flag sone sort of acronym for "Hello, I Won't Fight Back. Gank Me Please" ?
Except that I can't get the letters to fit.
- Myfanwy |

Raiko Osburn
Malevolent Intentions Ineluctable.
5
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Posted - 2012.10.17 20:17:00 -
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Lady Ayeipsia wrote:Raiko Osburn wrote:Jalabaster wrote:lolz. There's already server down. Think of it as a 23 hour afk flag.
Seriously? A 30 second cooldown before you can act? Someone is afraid of something in local channel.
Personally I think it would be cool if nullsec entities had to have some sort of infrastructure set up to even get local channel in null.
I remember one of my very first thoughts logging into EVE. "WTF is this local channel crap?" Guys, think about idea, not about numbers. But some people will always play dumb and decide to throw away whole idea cause one number is not ok. Clap clap. Forget numbers, play with ideas. Look for solutions. If you want to decline idea, state reason based on more than just a model number. And at last, this thread is not about cloaky afkers. Its about AFK flag in general. Not only for tactical purpose, but also for social purpose. You seem too attached to this so called good idea. You talk about looking for solutions, to what? If people are afk, why does it matter to you? Why are you suggesting the additional load on the server because every so often the server has to check if people are present? What social value is there? If my friend is afk, he won't respond to my chat. No need to add extra code. Also, as pointed out, there are simple ways to make it seem like someone is present. So really, instead of asking us to talk about ideas, give us a valid reason to have an afk flag, a valid reason tgat justifies the code time required and any extra overhead in server checks this would impose. Also, if this is not about afk cloakers, then would your solution still be fine if having any active module negated the afk flag? Lastly, what gives you the right to know if I am afk or not? Sure, you may argue it is a useful bit of knowledge, however what gives you the right to that knowledge? Perhaps I went off to the bathroom and don't want an afk flag indicating it was a long break? What if I do not want the war target camping me in station to know I stopped playing to watch tv. Perhaps I find it useful for them to waste their time camping me in. If they know when I'm present, I can't as easily bore them into dropping the war dec. So really, by what right do you claim this knowledge should be available to all?
Excuce me? I just put out an idea that AFK flag could be visible. I have never said it has to be. Thats the difference betwean discussion and statement. Now I am ready to see and think about others opinons as long as they really think and add something valuable into discussion. Not just attacking people for their ideas as you do. Hawk.
So far, manualy set AFK flag for corp chat channel is a good idea. Noone had an argument with it. Forget numbers, play with ideas, look for solutions. |

Lady Spank
Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED
2819
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Posted - 2012.10.18 01:13:00 -
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More free Intel from local? No thanks. (a¦á_a¦â) ~ (my spaceblog) http://bit.ly/RB6X4C ~ (a¦á_a¦â) |

Jack Miton
Aperture Harmonics K162
670
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Posted - 2012.10.18 01:20:00 -
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there is absolutely no way EVE can tell if someone is actually AFK or not without a webcam on every monitor and someone watching each cam. the idea is not only silly but inherently unenforcable.
in fact, it would serve to benefit to 'afk' people who are in fact not afk since their targets would assume they are not at the screen. |

CorInaXeraL
Order of the Silver Dragons Silver Dragonz
245
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Posted - 2012.10.18 13:57:00 -
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Jack Miton wrote:there is absolutely no way EVE can tell if someone is actually AFK or not without a webcam on every monitor and someone watching each cam. the idea is not only silly but inherently unenforcable.
in fact, it would serve to benefit to 'afk' people who are in fact not afk since their targets would assume they are not at the screen.
I would totally scout out an active belt in a cloaky, sit and wait for the afk flag, let them come out of their hidey-holes like scared cockroaches and ambush them....
Actually, just cycling afk / non-afk every five minutes would be enough to totally mess with their operations, moreso than the current system. They'd be undocking and redocking so often they'd get nothing done. |

Maggeridon Thoraz
Reconfiguration Nation Transmission Lost
27
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Posted - 2012.10.18 14:13:00 -
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the only good thing you can do to this thread is lock it up . |

Senek4
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2012.11.06 23:23:00 -
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AFK is a must in this game, however i would like the option to AFK while shutting down the computer would be a step in saving electricity on large scale. |

Kazim Scumling
Judge Enterprises
1
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Posted - 2012.11.06 23:36:00 -
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May I ask which games have AFK indicators? |

Kazim Scumling
Judge Enterprises
1
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Posted - 2012.11.07 00:43:00 -
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Flurk Hellbron wrote:Remove local..................
Btw this would solve all the problems :D
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Alua Oresson
Demon-War-Lords Fatal Ascension
147
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Posted - 2012.11.07 00:48:00 -
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Raiko Osburn wrote:Players should not affect PvP game life when not playing.
What you are advocating is getting rid of emergent gameplay. The emergent gameplay is using an AFK cloaked character (either alt of main) in order to wage psychological warfare on the people in that system. It is a very effective tool at that. I had a friend that used to log in, go to an enemy home system and cloak up his ship (I think it was a tempest) then go off to work. When he returned he would manually scan down the belts using Dscan and inevitably catch someone ratting in a belt and blow them away. (This was before anomalies were introduced.) http://pvpwannabe.blogspot.com/ |

TheGunslinger42
Bite Me inc
484
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Posted - 2012.11.07 08:15:00 -
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Raiko Osburn wrote:All online multiplayer games I have ever played have AFK indicator, so why not EVE? *I don't want to start another threat about cloaky AFKers in null. No, this is not about being cloaky and AFK. This is about being AFK in general*Tactical advantage of being AFK without others knowing it is quite powerfull tool. You can greatly affect gameplay of others and you don't have to play at all. So is it valid tactics? Is it ok, that EVE life and real life are so connected? Not everyone can have his computer online all day. Not everyone will do it even if they could for many reason starting with energy consumption and ending with greener planet  So what do you think? Do we need AFK indicator? Imagine you could tell if someone is AFK or not. How much would this feature change your EVE experience?
Liar liar pants on fire, this is absolutely about cloakers in null and everyone knows it.
You want to know if you're 100% safe to rat/mine in null.
We don't need an afk indicator because it doesn't provide any kind of benefit at all (except for filthy nullbear scum who have no business being in 0.0 to begin with) and does nothing but boost the already overpowered and broken local intel tool |

Wodensun
ZeroSec Dragon Swarm Dynasty
6
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Posted - 2012.11.07 12:37:00 -
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Dude AFK yourself... permanently.
Also.. NO. That is all. |
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