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Oggat
Viziam
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.10.07 03:10:00 -
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Maybe CCP should force PvP in Marauders. Then the meatheads who think they are entitled to force Miners to PvP in a hulk will get it. |
Oggat
Viziam
Amarr Empire
4
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Posted - 2012.10.07 05:37:00 -
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Lord Zim wrote:Actually, it's between 1-3x as much as marauders. And yes, it's blap dreads, amongst others.
So you PvP in a ship that can tank up to and including a doomsday and you are belly aching because they gave the Hulk some EHP.
Gotcha |
Oggat
Viziam
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.10.08 06:33:00 -
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The trouble with this whining that I have is, you can kill Mackinaw's cheap. You just can't do it solo or with your alt. You need a small group. 8 or 10 T1 Desi will take down a macki and for next to no ISK. You **** and moan about miners and all you want is to emulate them at a different task.
EVE is what EVE has always been. Gank beat Tank. Always has, still does. Ganking miners is now true to forum. You need to actually GANK them though. |
Oggat
Viziam
Amarr Empire
4
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Posted - 2012.10.08 06:54:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:Oggat wrote:The trouble with this whining that I have is, you can kill Mackinaw's cheap. You just can't do it solo or with your alt. You need a small group. 8 or 10 T1 Desi will take down a macki and for next to no ISK. You **** and moan about miners and all you want is to emulate them at a different task.
EVE is what EVE has always been. Gank beat Tank. Always has, still does. Ganking miners is now true to forum. You need to actually GANK them though. If theres no isk to be made from it then people won't do it. This is why 99.9% of ships in highsec are left alone.
The same holds true for mining. Gank them enough they stop doing it. CCP chose to keep mining as active content. I support the decision. |
Oggat
Viziam
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.10.08 07:02:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:Oggat wrote:
The same holds true for mining. Gank them enough they stop doing it. CCP chose to keep mining as active content. I support the decision.
Problem with your argument is that people did not stop mining and they enjoyed the highest prices for their minerals and ice miners have ever seen while all of this ganking was going on. Why do you want to take those great profits away from miners?
Because I know the difference between reproc, market manipulation and mining profits. I also will hold to the firm belief that the only ones absorbing the barge losses were Bots and null sec corp Ops. Solo miners in high sec were not 'enjoying' enough of a spike to adjust for the loss of a Hulk and those were the only ones being targeted by the ganking that was removed, |
Oggat
Viziam
Amarr Empire
5
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Posted - 2012.10.08 07:04:00 -
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Darth Gustav wrote:Touval Lysander wrote:Darth Gustav wrote:
Who are you going to kill with one thrasher, dude?
This is the most laughable thing...ever.
It's AWOX Darth. Corp kill. FREE of charge. 100% profit. Now let's take FA and Goons - what, 15,000?? I'm guessing w/o checking. AT ONE mack each - that's 15,000 macks. Now just 1 more each, go on, for the corp.... You can do it. 30,000 kills and they are as good as guaranteed kills and FREE. Do it smart. Assimilate. Infiltrate. Do it slow.... Then BANG. Corps will shut down, no recruiting, no-one will trust anybody. Chaos and anarchy. The miners will absolutely fn riot!!!  No they won't dude and you know it. They'll join NPC corps by not adapting when their corps close and keep on mining. 
Actually, that is adapting. The same way as null sec hauler alts is adappting to war dec's. |
Oggat
Viziam
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.10.08 07:16:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:Oggat wrote:
Because I know the difference between reproc, market manipulation and mining profits. I also will hold to the firm belief that the only ones absorbing the barge losses were Bots and null sec corp Ops. Solo miners in high sec were not 'enjoying' enough of a spike to adjust for the loss of a Hulk and those were the only ones being targeted by the ganking that was removed,
Minerals and ice trippled in price and stablised at that level. I'd say earning three times more isk for your work is a good thing no? After the buff ice has lost 2/3 of its value and its still dropping. So are miners better off now than before the buff? No, they are not.
Yes, they are better off.
Most miners don't mine Ice. Price is down because of Bots. Mineral prices are spiked because of Drone region nerf and Meta 0 loot removal. High sec Miners never got the benefit of that spike because they had to sink it all back in to new Hulks. Now they might actually get to make a little ISK and keep it. |
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