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Seleene	Posted - 2005.03.10 20:08:00 - [1] - Mercenary Coalition Announcement - The Mercenary CoalitionÆs contract against Force of Evil is now finished. The final results of our campaign can be found here. FoE Contract Results We hope that the client is pleased with our work. A few words to the Force of Evil pilots and leadership: On behalf of the entire Coalition, I salute your ability and willingness to engage. Of special note was the almost non-existence of smack in public or private over the past month. The war with FoE was the most action-packed contract I have ever participated in, with the war raging over a dozen star systems in every class of ship imaginable. This was not just a random series of gankings, although there were plenty of those. This contract was a series of hit and runs, blob dodging, small skirmishes, battleship slugfestsà In other words, a war! Respect to FoE! The Coalition will be taking the next week off to conduct pilot evaluations, redeploy assets, restock ammo, get some sleep and hold sandwich making classes. Leafo and I are working hard to have the FoE Contract movie finished as soon as possible. The release date is scheduled for 17 March 2005, 1800 EVE time. WeÆll see you in the Video section then! - T2 Weapons Testing in progress! Volunteer today!
Draximus Cane	Posted - 2005.03.10 20:11:00 - [2] Kudos for FoE's willingness to fight, Kudos to our new partners in the MC. Ponders who the next contract will be against -------------------------------------------------
Sivona	Posted - 2005.03.10 20:12:00 - [3] A very enjoyable and generally apart from a few noteables smack free war with a minimum of distasteful behaviour encountered.
Yolan	Posted - 2005.03.10 20:18:00 - [4] Excellent fights and lots of fun, thanks for all the times ya ganked me Seriously though before this war I was very much a bs pilot but you guys taught me alot about frigate fighting and tactics so lots of fun and a learning experience to boot.
PerrinAybarra	Posted - 2005.03.10 20:19:00 - [5] I would have to say it was an interesting war and well fought on both sides.
Foyle	Posted - 2005.03.10 20:20:00 - [6] Thanks Seleene, The Force of Evil had great fun fighting the Coalition. Smack was non existent and all engagements were done with honor. Repect to Mercenary Coalition and it's leadership. Watch for the Coalition, "You could be next!" Eternally yours, MuthaTrucka
ParMizaN	Posted - 2005.03.10 20:30:00 - [7] I think we can safely say that we hold nothing but respect for these few pilots: they can do more damage than an alliance with none of the fuss. The war was an excellent trial for ourselves, and the fighting was nothing short of amazing. Good nature goes a long way. respect ------------------ Run and fall or stand in line, in the end what's your's is mine
mark10201	Posted - 2005.03.10 20:35:00 - [8] Id like to extend thanks from Celtic Industries for much valued pvp. Great war, Really good fun, And as far as i saw 100% smack free which is always good Thx MC Mark10201
V2GBR	Posted - 2005.03.10 20:35:00 - [9] respect to both sides. ---------- http://guc.webinventions.co.uk <-- GUC Site. www.webinventions.co.uk <-- My eve history.
The Grum	Posted - 2005.03.10 20:36:00 - [10] Well i must say ive loved this merc war imensely. Been very euducational so hopefuly i can now use some of my hard earned lessons on someone else GG guys and fly safe ( well until next time we are at war ) /me waves to Ithildin
toccz	Posted - 2005.03.10 20:38:00 - [11] gg
Leno	Posted - 2005.03.10 20:40:00 - [12] Edited by: Leno on 10/03/2005 20:49:39 Very nice stuff, tho u might want to talk to Dimension about his pricing of the HAC (18m). They cost alot more then that to lose (sorry sticklar for those things, my own corps using the defaul value drives me NUTS) Anyway some awsome stuff there, wish I could of been more of a part of it. EDIT: Ignore me just saw the * at the bottom explaining it is buy insurance payout... still be nice if someone worked out more proper values, and then maybe posted it for all to use --------------- RIP - Smoske, My Friend
DB Preacher	Posted - 2005.03.10 20:51:00 - [13] Originally by: Leno Edited by: Leno on 10/03/2005 20:49:39 Very nice stuff, tho u might want to talk to Dimension about his pricing of the HAC (18m). They cost alot more then that to lose (sorry sticklar for those things, my own corps using the defaul value drives me NUTS) Anyway some awsome stuff there, wish I could of been more of a part of it. EDIT: Ignore me just saw the * at the bottom explaining it is buy insurance payout... still be nice if someone worked out more proper values, and then maybe posted it for all to use Everything is taken direct from the insurance cost. There is no other way of agreeing on a proper price. Respect to both sides for a good smak-free war. gg dbp Current RKK Ranking: (CAL4) Soldier Drop by and say hi in Reikoku Forums.
MAXSuicide	Posted - 2005.03.10 20:51:00 - [14] good war, the best thing about it, is the movies that come out afterwards! looking forward to the movie(s) you guys were more of a pain than a 5000+ man alliance My vids and random stuff
Seleene	Posted - 2005.03.10 20:53:00 - [15] Thanks for the comments, all. Originally by: Leno Very nice stuff, tho u might want to talk to Dimension about his pricing of the HAC (18m). They cost alot more then that to lose (sorry sticklar for those things, my own corps using the defaul value drives me NUTS We debated playing with the default values for HACs & Intys but decided that it was best to just stick to the same standard - the insurance payout. Obviously, the average ship loss figures don't take into account T2 or named mods whether the kill is a HAC or a BS. The standard has to be somewhere and Dimension's system is about as impartial as it gets. It's not tottaly fair to the killers or the killed, but at least it's constant. A special caveat to our HAC losses - the Coalition produces the Deimos, Zealot and Eagle ourselves. As they were the majority of our losses, that kind of cushioned the blow a bit. To anyone considering using the 'killboard.net' system: you'll find DimensionZ to be a tireless and extremely attentive admin. He has done a lot of custom work for the Coaltion Killboard and it's all been top notch. I cannot recommend the system highly enough. - T2 Weapons Testing in progress! Volunteer today!
zincol	Posted - 2005.03.10 20:55:00 - [16] "This was not just a random series of gankings, although there were plenty of those. This contract was a series of hit and runs, blob dodging, small skirmishes, battleship slugfestsà In other words, a war!" Sounds just like our wa with xetic :-) Good to see you all having fun! w00t!
MAXSuicide	Posted - 2005.03.10 21:00:00 - [17] u guys liked ur HACs and assualt frigs, the NSN gank was one to remember poor leafo and co. i feel sorry for whoever is your next contract My vids and random stuff
Krapz	Posted - 2005.03.10 21:04:00 - [18] Yeah, I can say that for CLS fighters, this war has been a lot of fun too. No smack, and that's important (to me anyways) and we've pretty much carved up empire more or less. So if either party wants a fight, we can just "cross the line." Look forward to more fun fights! btw, love the new sigs MC guys. Top notch and too funneh! -- Insert cool graphics sig here --
Leno	Posted - 2005.03.10 21:04:00 - [19] Originally by: Seleene A special caveat to our HAC losses - the Coalition produces the Deimos, Zealot and Eagle ourselves. TAKE ME! I LOVE YOU LONG TIME! --------------- RIP - Smoske, My Friend
The Kinetic	Posted - 2005.03.10 21:08:00 - [20] A fun war idd and no smack, wp the MC lads. -------- hi2u
Balistic Void	Posted - 2005.03.10 21:09:00 - [21] Edited by: Balistic Void on 10/03/2005 21:15:17 Edited by: Balistic Void on 10/03/2005 21:14:24 gf Seleene, that HAC issue skews the figures considerably. You still came out way ahead tho BS Loss = (Ship Cost + Insurance Cost) - Payout = (100 + 30) - 100 = 30 million isk. HAC Loss = (Ship Cost + Insurance Cost) - Payout = (80 + 8) - 18 = 70 million isk. Very rough figures, but if you put such effort into producing a report like this you should do it properly. I remember being annoyed at the same issue when you presented TPS your report from the UNICOR contract (the use of insurance payout alone to determine isk damage). Edit: Just read some other replies as I was typing that. I think everyone can quite easily agree on a formula for losses. (Ship Cost + Insurance Cost) - Payout This leaves 3 variables: 2 of which are fixed by the game (ins cost and payout). Surely everyone can agree on the isk cost of ships? The problem is it changes over time - particularly with newer ships, but that shouldn't be a big deal.
Taris Arrathan	Posted - 2005.03.10 21:11:00 - [22] Who needs a week of??? ;)
Cabadrin	Posted - 2005.03.10 21:14:00 - [23] A mind-blowing war, filled with more action than any other war I've been in. Great fights and good luck to FoE ----------------------------------------------- Coalition Kill Board
Seleene	Posted - 2005.03.10 21:26:00 - [24] Edited by: Seleene on 10/03/2005 21:29:41 Originally by: Balistic Void Seleene, that HAC issue skews the figures considerably. You still came out way ahead tho BS Loss = (Ship Cost + Insurance Cost) - Payout = (100 + 30) - 100 = 30 million isk. HAC Loss = (Ship Cost + Insurance Cost) - Payout = (80 + 8) - 18 = 70 million isk. Very rough figures, but if you put such effort into producing a report like this you should do it properly. I remember being annoyed at the same issue when you presented TPS your report from the UNICOR contract (the use of insurance payout alone to determine isk damage). Balistic - NO. The standard is there for a reason. The fact of the matter is that the insurance payout on HACs is a lot closer to reality in terms of production cost. The things are still vastly overpriced. There are too many variables to consider when calculating damage. For my corp, losing a Deimos or a Zealot is about the same as losing a Battlecruiser. We mass produce the things 24/7. We kill an enemy Deimos, he's out 100 million+ ISK. We lose one, it's not even half that. The killboard does not, and cannot make that distinction. No one can agree on the cost of a ship because there are too many things to consider. I know that some of the BS we killed were worth well over 300-400 million ISK, but we only get credit for maybe 50% of that. So, in that respect, the killboard works for and against us. The Pend Insurance payout is the only way to do these things. As far as the effort, all I did was enter a lot of kill mails and post the link. The database does everything else. If you still don't see the light, let's just agree to disagree, Void. - T2 Weapons Testing in progress! Volunteer today!
psycorabbit	Posted - 2005.03.10 21:29:00 - [25] great fun war loads of fights no smacktalk kudos to foe, now to find some more panties and prepare for the next targets
Farjung	Posted - 2005.03.10 21:33:00 - [26] Fun war, good fights! If only scan probes didn't show up on the damn scanner! >_< Someone really needs to keep me away from the Taranis
Krapz	Posted - 2005.03.10 21:33:00 - [27] Originally by: psycorabbit great fun war loads of fights no smacktalk kudos to foe, now to find some more panties and prepare for the next targets It was YOU who did the sigs wasn't it psyco! -- Insert cool graphics sig here --
Sheriff Justice	Posted - 2005.03.10 21:33:00 - [28] Fun SJ
Trooper B99	Posted - 2005.03.10 21:41:00 - [29] I'm sad to say I didn't join BDCI till near the end of the contract and so missed out on some standup fights with FOE. Despite that, there were still plenty of great fights and some excellent engagements! GG and glad to have fought y'all. Wirykomi Team Racer - COLOSSUS Championships Year 106
Generatorn	Posted - 2005.03.10 21:48:00 - [30] Awsome fighting you guys was a blast especially the fight at obe gate in hakonen when our fleets clashed

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