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RAGE QU1T
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
13
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Posted - 2012.10.05 03:10:00 -
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Bring back the old days of PvP, back before third party killboards, No T.A.R.P for EVE-KILL, let it go down in flames so we get more people PvPing because they dont have to worry about K/D ratios.
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Zagdul
Clan Shadow Wolf Fatal Ascension
1032
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Posted - 2012.10.05 03:16:00 -
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The number one driving factor of EVE's success in PVP is tear harvesting.
What better way to harvest said tears than to be able to link an enemy a loss of a ship and laugh at them? Your sentiment won't be met with a large amount of people cheering as it's a bad one.
Dual Pane idea: Click!
CCP Please Implement |

Brooks Puuntai
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
826
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Posted - 2012.10.05 03:19:00 -
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No because that will just leave Battleclinic as the only major KB provider, and Battleclinic KB is terrible. |

James 315
Experimental Fun Times Corp
2895
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Posted - 2012.10.05 03:24:00 -
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Time to step it up, Battleclinic. This is your chance, don't blow it! 
-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ MinerBumping.com -˝-˝-˝-˝-˝-˝-˝-˝-˝-˝The daily saga of the New Order's quest to conquer all highsec by bumping miners out of range. |

Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
4991
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Posted - 2012.10.05 04:11:00 -
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Nobody cares about kill/death ratios and removing killmails wouldn't encourage more PvP at all. please leave |

Mallak Azaria
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
688
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Posted - 2012.10.05 04:14:00 -
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RAGE QU1T wrote: so we get more people PvPing because they dont have to worry about K/D ratios.
This is not why people don't PvP. Mining Barge buff: CCP-áhas acknowledged that miners in general-áare too stupid to make the correct fitting choices to make ganking them unprofitable. |

Cipher Jones
The Thomas Edwards Taco Tuesday All Stars
589
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Posted - 2012.10.05 05:11:00 -
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I love Eve forums. They said Eve-kill was #1. So I looked up BC vs EveKill on google, BC is like 8x as popular.
I like Evekill TBH, but fanboiz gonna fanboi.
I hpoe they get back up and running. From: Tommas De'Wins To: Cipher Jones Dude :) I got massives Basi hahahahahahaha |

Tarn Kugisa
Infinite Covenant Tribal Band
158
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Posted - 2012.10.05 05:12:00 -
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Mallak Azaria wrote:RAGE QU1T wrote: so we get more people PvPing because they dont have to worry about K/D ratios.
This is not why people don't PvP.
I don't pvp because I spend too much time replacing non-pvp ships dem ratting geddons are expensive man
but tackling at times is damn good fun I Endorse this Product and/or Service Source Recorder-esque tool for EVE |

Terminal Insanity
The Filthy Ones
661
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Posted - 2012.10.05 05:14:00 -
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Cipher Jones wrote:I love Eve forums. They said Eve-kill was #1. So I looked up BC vs EveKill on google, BC is like 8x as popular.
I like Evekill TBH, but fanboiz gonna fanboi.
I hpoe they get back up and running. thats because 8x more people visit it to view the crappy loadouts section. The real pvp'ers use eve-kill to post mails. "War declarations are never officially considered griefing and are not a bannable offense, and it has been repeatedly stated by the developers that the possibility for non-consensual PvP is an intended feature." - CCP |

Antihrist Pripravnik
Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic
47
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Posted - 2012.10.05 06:20:00 -
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RAGE QU1T wrote:Bring back the old days of PvP, back before third party killboards, No T.A.R.P for EVE-KILL, let it go down in flames so we get more people PvPing because they dont have to worry about K/D ratios.
There's griefwatch, battleclinic and I'm building a custom CMS solution as an alternative to EDK. You're out of luck. CCP Ytterbium: Yarrblblbgrlblbgrlblblblbblbgrlblblbgrblblyarrrrdrooooooolonthekeyboardlikealunatic     |
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Akirei Scytale
Test Alliance Please Ignore
2483
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Posted - 2012.10.05 06:23:00 -
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Andski wrote:Nobody cares about kill/death ratios and removing killmails wouldn't encourage more PvP at all.
Don't be willfully naive, you're better than that Andski. Yes, it is plain moronic and straight up embarrassing to take them seriously, but a startling number of EVE players do. That's why it is so fun to mess with their K/Ds. TEST Alliance BEST Alliance |

ACE McFACE
24th Imperial Crusade Amarr Empire
832
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Posted - 2012.10.05 07:18:00 -
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Whats T.A.R.P?
INB4 someone tells me its a killboard "7 pages of people insulting me - aka trolling" - Lady Hofstedar What s/he (probobly he) meant: "7 pages of people disagreeing with my terrible idea - aka trolling" - Lady Hofstedar |

Alice Saki
8829
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Posted - 2012.10.05 07:20:00 -
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Eve-Kill!
BC Sucks.
My Killboard has a Awesome Picture :D Scottish Interweb Spaceshippy Person, Very Easily Confused. I like to show my Love by Smashing people in the face with a big Hammer.
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Reuqh Dew
Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic
1
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Posted - 2012.10.05 07:47:00 -
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Alice Saki wrote:Eve-Kill!
BC Sucks.
My Killboard has a Awesome Picture :D
Why did you change your avatar and hid that pretty face? Your new photographer should be biomassed and fed to amarrians.
To topic: Doesn't matter if Eve-kill dies, there will be killboards as long as there's killmails. It's sad that many take PvP very serious because of K/D ratios, but that's the way it is. Alter egos are serious business in games, right? |

Alice Saki
8835
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Posted - 2012.10.05 07:49:00 -
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Killmails are Pretty.
Reuqh Dew wrote:
Why did you change your avatar and hid that pretty face? Your new photographer should be biomassed and fed to amarrians.
2am... I wasn't Sober ^_^ Seem like a good idea at the time :D Scottish Interweb Spaceshippy Person, Very Easily Confused. I like to show my Love by Smashing people in the face with a big Hammer.
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Tear Miner
Republic University Minmatar Republic
144
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Posted - 2012.10.05 08:10:00 -
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Zagdul wrote:The number one driving factor of EVE's success in PVP is tear harvesting.
What better way to harvest said tears than to be able to link an enemy a loss of a ship and laugh at them? Your sentiment won't be met with a large amount of people cheering as it's a bad one.
You know CCP made linkable kill reports, right?
Just sayin'. |

Jose Black
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
4
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Posted - 2012.10.05 08:40:00 -
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Zagdul wrote:The number one driving factor of EVE's success in PVP is tear harvesting.
What better way to harvest said tears than to be able to link an enemy a loss of a ship and laugh at them? [..]
Maybe it's just me but I was thinking people's tears were about the kids that need to boost their ego with killboard statistics instead of doing meaningful fights and having fun in the process itself. |

Marcus Harikari
Guitar Players of EVE
96
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Posted - 2012.10.05 08:45:00 -
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Tear Miner wrote:Zagdul wrote:The number one driving factor of EVE's success in PVP is tear harvesting.
What better way to harvest said tears than to be able to link an enemy a loss of a ship and laugh at them? Your sentiment won't be met with a large amount of people cheering as it's a bad one.
You know CCP made linkable kill reports, right? Just sayin'. how??? |

James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation RAZOR Alliance
850
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Posted - 2012.10.05 08:48:00 -
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I take kill-mails seriously. Come at me bro. http://themittani.com/features/local-problem A simple fix to the local intel problem |

Inquisitor Kitchner
Galaxy Punks Executive Outcomes
112
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Posted - 2012.10.05 08:51:00 -
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Marcus Harikari wrote:Tear Miner wrote:Zagdul wrote:The number one driving factor of EVE's success in PVP is tear harvesting.
What better way to harvest said tears than to be able to link an enemy a loss of a ship and laugh at them? Your sentiment won't be met with a large amount of people cheering as it's a bad one.
You know CCP made linkable kill reports, right? Just sayin'. how???
You don't know that?
Stick to playing the guitar.
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James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation RAZOR Alliance
850
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Posted - 2012.10.05 08:55:00 -
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Inquisitor Kitchner wrote:Marcus Harikari wrote:Tear Miner wrote:Zagdul wrote:The number one driving factor of EVE's success in PVP is tear harvesting.
What better way to harvest said tears than to be able to link an enemy a loss of a ship and laugh at them? Your sentiment won't be met with a large amount of people cheering as it's a bad one.
You know CCP made linkable kill reports, right? Just sayin'. how??? You don't know that? Stick to playing the guitar. I'm not even sure he really logs into this game. He seems generally clueless in each of his posts about the most basic stuff. http://themittani.com/features/local-problem A simple fix to the local intel problem |

Kitty Bear
Disturbed Friends Of Diazepam Disturbed Acquaintance
54
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Posted - 2012.10.05 09:05:00 -
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Zagdul wrote:The number one driving factor of EVE's success in PVP is tear harvesting.
What better way to harvest said tears than to be able to link an enemy a loss of a ship and laugh at them? Your sentiment won't be met with a large amount of people cheering as it's a bad one.
Tear harvesting is performed over LOCAL as they emorage about being ganked/can-flipped or whatever else your pvp-style is. Posting 3rd party killmail info on a forum is not tear harvesting, it's epeen stroking (complete with added kleenex).
CCP provide you with a free non 3rd party killmail, that you can link over local or corp chat ..... why would you need anything else. |

Brooks Puuntai
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
832
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Posted - 2012.10.05 09:08:00 -
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Kitty Bear wrote: CCP provide you with a free non 3rd party killmail, that you can link over local or corp chat ..... why would you need anything else.
Because then you can't stroke your epeen by linking your 3rd party KB to a 3rd party forum. Also you can look through recruitment section and see that many still think Eff. matters.
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James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation RAZOR Alliance
850
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Posted - 2012.10.05 09:11:00 -
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Kitty Bear wrote:why would you need anything else. Intel, tracking progress/efficiency, and keeping historical records. Just to name a few. http://themittani.com/features/local-problem A simple fix to the local intel problem |

Val'Dore
PlanetCorp InterStellar
11
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Posted - 2012.10.05 11:47:00 -
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I've never been a fan of kill mails or kill boards, to me they encourage all the worst pvp behaviours. |

Ryhss
Android Gang Stealth Syndicate
19
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Posted - 2012.10.05 12:30:00 -
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Andski wrote:Nobody cares about kill/death ratios and removing killmails wouldn't encourage more PvP at all. This |

Christine Peeveepeeski
The Imperial Fedaykin
147
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Posted - 2012.10.05 12:47:00 -
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If my kill history listed every kill rather than just the ones I had final blow on I'd be fine without killboards. |

RAGE QU1T
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
23
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Posted - 2012.10.05 14:19:00 -
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Andski wrote:Nobody cares about kill/death ratios and removing killmails wouldn't encourage more PvP at all.
Real alliances do, not 9,000+ man allaince who only lag out grid at every engagement, leave the "iwin" button at home and bring the fight to someone outside your guys titans bridge range, then come here and tell us nobody cares bout K/D ratios because that's total bollocks. |

Skippermonkey
Tactical Knightmare
1498
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Posted - 2012.10.05 16:49:00 -
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K/D ratios are a bunch of crap anyway
When you can appear on multiple killmails but only 1 lossmail, unless you always fly solo, then you are going to have a positive ratio even if you are bad
(like me) TK is recruiting |

Jenn aSide
Smokin Aces.
288
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Posted - 2012.10.05 16:59:00 -
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Zagdul wrote:The number one driving factor of EVE's success in PVP is tear harvesting.
What better way to harvest said tears than to be able to link an enemy a loss of a ship and laugh at them? Your sentiment won't be met with a large amount of people cheering as it's a bad one.
Well said.
It's generally a bad idea to talk about people's motivations, but this topic almost demands it. It would seem that the butt hurt about killmails mainly comes from people on the recieving end of some horrible killmails.
I never understood the minority of people who hate killmails, they are just a report of a kill loss, a record of an encounter.
Al;so the idea that more people will pvp if there are no kill mails. Anyone who won't pvp because there might be a record of it probably shouldn't be playing EVE in the 1st place. |
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