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James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation
RAZOR Alliance
854
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Posted - 2012.10.05 17:07:00 -
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I are so elite I dun curr bout killmails
http://themittani.com/features/local-problem
A simple fix to the local intel problem |
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
1786
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Posted - 2012.10.05 17:18:00 -
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I've had 5 vs 1 situations where I was the 1 and 4 of them ran off.
Why?
Because they could not be entirely sure they would not be the one loss in the engagement. They ran back to their POS to get a bigger ship.
Certainly I would lose, but feared I could concentrate all firepower on one, such that is the mentality: so concerned they are about their K/D ratio, they presumed that, since that's how they play, that's how I play too, so I would be interested in maintaining my K/D ratio by taking one out as I get killed.
But they want that K and no risk of a D - if they killed me, they were worried they might get a D with their K - and even THAT was not acceptable.
The end result: no PVP. They ran off, and I didn't stick around.
Pathetic. |
James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation
RAZOR Alliance
855
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Posted - 2012.10.05 18:53:00 -
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To clarify, caring about K/D and lossmails is dumb. Enjoying killmails is not.
Especially solo killmails.
http://themittani.com/features/local-problem
A simple fix to the local intel problem |
Andski
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
4996
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Posted - 2012.10.05 19:05:00 -
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RAGE QU1T wrote:Andski wrote:Nobody cares about kill/death ratios and removing killmails wouldn't encourage more PvP at all. Real alliances do, not 9,000+ man allaince who only lag out grid at every engagement, leave the "iwin" button at home and bring the fight to someone outside your guys titans bridge range, then come here and tell us nobody cares bout K/D ratios because that's total bollocks.
You're correct, "real alliances" like -A- are highly concerned about keeping the killboard green. You, the NPC posting alt, are right as usual because you know everything about the game as you've experienced it all in the NPC corp.
This post was crafted by a member of the Goonswarm Federation posting cabal, the foremost authority on Eve: Online posting.
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Cipher Jones
The Thomas Edwards Taco Tuesday All Stars
589
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Posted - 2012.10.05 19:56:00 -
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Andski wrote:RAGE QU1T wrote:Andski wrote:Nobody cares about kill/death ratios and removing killmails wouldn't encourage more PvP at all. Real alliances do, not 9,000+ man allaince who only lag out grid at every engagement, leave the "iwin" button at home and bring the fight to someone outside your guys titans bridge range, then come here and tell us nobody cares bout K/D ratios because that's total bollocks. You're correct, "real alliances" like -A- are highly concerned about keeping the killboard green. You, the NPC posting alt, are right as usual because you know everything about the game as you've experienced it all in the NPC corp.
Appeal to authority logical fallacy there buddy.
From: Tommas De'Wins
To: Cipher Jones
Dude :) I got massives Basi hahahahahahaha |
War Kitten
Panda McLegion
1288
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Posted - 2012.10.05 19:57:00 -
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What corps need is a 75% K/D efficiency policy - No lower, and no higher than 75%. Check the ratio once a month.
That way the 90%+ pros can (and must) take out the scrubbier pilots on roams in order to reduce their personal ratios, while hoping to raise that of the scrubs.
Eventually everyone will learn to be good at pvp together, and then spend time dying horribly in a fire at the end of the month because it's fun.
:)
I find that without a good mob to provide one for them, most people would have no mentality at all. |
ShiftyMcFly's Second Cousin
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
13
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Posted - 2012.10.05 20:07:00 -
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Ryhss wrote:Andski wrote:Nobody cares about kill/death ratios and removing killmails wouldn't encourage more PvP at all. This
Such blanket statements are nearly always self serving.
The chances that everyone feels the same about this is zero. The chances that 90-99% "vast majority" feel this way are higher, but probably not as high as you want people to think.
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James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation
RAZOR Alliance
858
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Posted - 2012.10.05 20:36:00 -
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Cipher Jones wrote:Andski wrote:RAGE QU1T wrote:Andski wrote:Nobody cares about kill/death ratios and removing killmails wouldn't encourage more PvP at all. Real alliances do, not 9,000+ man allaince who only lag out grid at every engagement, leave the "iwin" button at home and bring the fight to someone outside your guys titans bridge range, then come here and tell us nobody cares bout K/D ratios because that's total bollocks. You're correct, "real alliances" like -A- are highly concerned about keeping the killboard green. You, the NPC posting alt, are right as usual because you know everything about the game as you've experienced it all in the NPC corp. Appeal to authority logical fallacy there buddy.
Pray do tell where he did that.
http://themittani.com/features/local-problem
A simple fix to the local intel problem |
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
1787
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Posted - 2012.10.05 22:08:00 -
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Watch: this thread is going to degenerate into something that by itself will serve in favor of the argument to get rid of kill/loss mails and boards.
It's already starting.
While much is said about whether or not people who "get EvE" and should want the "carebear type" in this game, I can see another type we might benefit without.
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Lin-Young Borovskova
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
773
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Posted - 2012.10.05 22:42:00 -
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Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:Watch: this thread is going to degenerate into something that by itself will serve in favor of the argument to get rid of kill/loss mails and boards.
It's already starting.
You're too late, all started at page1 at first posts.
Leave nerds to their internet awesome existence faping on their kb while you have fun playing your own game, even if it's loosing ships.
Then little 12yo boy discussions to see who pisses furthest or has the bigger, leave them to little boys.
brb |
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James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation
RAZOR Alliance
861
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Posted - 2012.10.05 23:10:00 -
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I'm just amused that the most vocal group is the one advocating removing killboards.
Protip: the only way killboards are ever going to be removed is if CCP removed kill/loss information from the API. And that's absolutely not going to happen. Even if they did, killboards would still exist, they'd simply be even more incomplete and even less trustworthy.
http://themittani.com/features/local-problem
A simple fix to the local intel problem |
Brusanan
Sardaukar Merc Guild
General Tso's Alliance
59
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Posted - 2012.10.05 23:17:00 -
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Removing killboards would kill Eve. |
James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation
RAZOR Alliance
861
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Posted - 2012.10.05 23:19:00 -
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Brusanan wrote:Removing killboards would kill Eve.
If that were really the case then EVE would deserve to die. I think killboards are important, but I seriously doubt they're the primary reason for more than a handful of people to be playing this game.
http://themittani.com/features/local-problem
A simple fix to the local intel problem |
RAGE QU1T
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
25
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Posted - 2012.10.05 23:20:00 -
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Brusanan wrote:Removing killboards would kill Eve.
Wrong, They weren't around in '03,04 and EVE flurished |
Soon Shin
Caucasian Culture Club
Transmission Lost
155
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Posted - 2012.10.06 03:13:00 -
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I do say how they calculate kill and points is messed up.
I can ***** on a supercap killmail with a single shot get 20-80 billion added to my killboard.
I propose you receive the amount of isk and points proportional the amount of damage inflicted on the km. |
James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation
RAZOR Alliance
863
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Posted - 2012.10.06 04:28:00 -
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Soon Shin wrote:I do say how they calculate kill and points is messed up.
I can ***** on a supercap killmail with a single shot get 20-80 billion added to my killboard.
I propose you receive the amount of isk and points proportional the amount of damage inflicted on the km.
Which completely cuts ECM out of the picture, where IMO the dictors/hictors that keep the supercap tackled are deserving of more points than anybody who did a substantial amount of DPS.
In any case, I don't think very many people pay attention to points. ISK efficiency is pretty skewed, though, but it's a useful indicator in confrontations where whoever the isk efficiency is being calculated for is the only force shooting your enemies. For example ISK efficiency for a RAZOR fleet versus, say, IRC would be a pretty good indication of how we fared, but ISK efficiency for a CFC fleet versus someone else would give too high of an estimate as it takes into account kills that were done with friendly assistance but doesn't take into account friendly losses outside of the alliance.
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