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Kuolematon	Posted - 2005.03.14 06:32:00 - [61] Holy Secrating, Batman! We must call whambulanze and get some phat lewt to pie-rats! They want it easy and fast and no worries! Heck, lets drop concoord from 0.8 and below and remove sentrys from 0.4 and below! Think about possibilities to enjoy YOUR OWN WAY OF YOUR GAME! I can imagine that in 1 year, you would see your own corp member wander to your gatecamp and you wtfpwn him! JOY! Oh, Gift is ebil carebear _______________________________________________ My opinions aren't my corporations opinions. (\_/) (x.x) This is what's left of Bunny, the rest tasted delicious.
RollinDutchMasters	Posted - 2005.03.14 06:57:00 - [62] Originally by: Uggs386 Can anyone say lvl 4 missions. Battleship spawns in empire, so stop whining. Noone has problems fixing sec status if they really want to. Its just incredibly long and tedious. It would be nice if pirates were thrown a bone, since CCP moved all of the content that was in low-security space out to high-sec empire for the whiny carebear population. But hey, its not like one more nerf is going to kill piracy any more then the last eleven, right? I really dont care either way though. Its not that relevant. Originally by: Sochin CCP has provided you with the tools you need to avoid crime. You're just too lazy/stupid to use them.
MrMorph	Posted - 2005.03.14 07:34:00 - [63] Originally by: Gift pirates only ruin other peoples gaming experience, they dont deserve a "fun gaming experience" themselves You got it all backwards.... Carebear ruins our game experience with WCS and SS'. They shouldnt be allowed to play at all :( ---------------------------------------------- Trishys cookies they are !
Shai Faetal	Posted - 2005.03.14 07:36:00 - [64] no - (\_/) (O.o) (> <) This is Bunny. Copy Bunny into your signature to help him on his way to world domination.
Typherin laidai	Posted - 2005.03.14 08:40:00 - [65] Signed Also WTB 1 * I Win Button II Typherin LaiDai Care Negotitations Expert level 5 'Give me a position of power and I'l abuse it in an instant'
Sennju Zensu	Posted - 2005.03.14 10:22:00 - [66] lol who proposed that?? you are a pirate or a careber ?! if you kill other, assume it!! you can stay in 0.0 to 0.5 system, what the problem ?? if you wanna go in 0.6 - 1.0 use an alt or friends...
Baconjoe	Posted - 2005.03.14 11:21:00 - [67] SO Signed! We are cursed men
Lepakko	Posted - 2005.03.14 11:23:00 - [68] Now who is a bigger carebear ? The carebear whining for getting podded by a gateganking pirate-wannabe or the gateganking pirate-wannabe whining for getting his sec down for gateganking the carebear ? If you pirate then your sec goes down... !WTF are you pirating if you cant handle it ffs :) Jeez....,go to 0.0 shoot those nice juicy NPC¦s there to get it back up ..,simple as that..... But if your too affrait to go to 0.0 then you might turn your gaming to a carebear thingie.....and start minning veld ffs....
Roshan longshot	Posted - 2005.03.14 12:15:00 - [69] Your lame pirate, you went down that path knowing what you would get for it. Try not killing any players for a couple of weeks and you sec will raise. Kill off some NPC BS spawns and it will go up faster. Free-form Professions, ensure no limetations on professions. Be a trader, fighter, industialist, researcher, hunter,pirate[/i] or mixture of them all. [i]As read from the original box and from this site.
Typherin laidai	Posted - 2005.03.14 12:17:00 - [70] Lol from what i can see none of the pie rats are whining. Its just an idea .. one that doesn't require hours of boring NPC work So it gets my vote. And should all people with low sec status be considered 'Scum' .. heh I know a lot of anti-pirate m8's who cant enter high sec due to their status's .. and theyre not 'bad' ppl. quite the oposite. Meh just my thoughts Typherin LaiDai Care Negotitations Expert level 5 'Give me a position of power and I'l abuse it in an instant'
Jamius	Posted - 2005.03.14 12:44:00 - [71] Edited by: Jamius on 14/03/2005 12:45:30 "Being banned from high sec space just means that people have to bother about logging on alts, and makes the game extremely frustrating. This is about making other people's gameplay more fun, so spare a thought for the people who chose the other side of EVE." Hahahahaha - what a stoater. Oh my sides are splitting. I take it this is a joke? I love it when player rats moan it's too hard being one. Cheers me up no end. Frustrated are you, aww you poor wee thing. It's about making people's gameplay more fun is it. Yes, your style of gameplay, not mine and many others. Also, Soap Man, you said that you can't see a bad thing with your proposed changes. This little statement opitimises the way you people think and how you are so tied up in your little ratting world you seem incapable of taking other types of players style of play into account. Eve is supposed to support pirate players, not player rats who just kill kill kill. Very funny but very sad post.
Matthew Johnson	Posted - 2005.03.14 16:56:00 - [72] Ermm....go hunt rats? +++ Trade...good for you, good for me +++
Pitt	Posted - 2005.03.14 17:10:00 - [73] Edited by: Pitt on 14/03/2005 17:12:41 Originally by: Gift pirates only ruin other peoples gaming experience, they dont deserve a "fun gaming experience" themselves Good to see that your sarcasm isn't just wasted on me Gift. To those that responded like forum sheep, use the link at the bottom of Gift's post. edit: Forgot to add my no vote in as well, I'm working too hard to get mine up atm to just let your's go up for no reason. Look at it this way, you kill to lower it, kill to raise it. *Lack of preparation on your part does not constitute greifing on mine*
Gift	Posted - 2005.03.14 17:20:00 - [74] Originally by: Jamius Hahahahaha - what a stoater. Oh my sides are splitting. I take it this is a joke? I love it when player rats moan it's too hard being one. Cheers me up no end. Frustrated are you, aww you poor wee thing. And this is why I dislike these "throw pirates a bone threads". It just gives the other side more ammo to throw at us whenever there is a legitimate issue that needs discussing. Pirates always lose on the forums not due a lack of merit in their argument but due to being a minority with an aggressive play style that directly conflicts with the play style of the majority. Lesson 1 = can't win don't try. Lesson 2 = Kill by any means available and let THEM cry on the forums. my 2isk ---------------------------
RollinDutchMasters	Posted - 2005.03.14 17:44:00 - [75] Originally by: Roshan longshot Your lame pirate, you went down that path knowing what you would get for it. Try not killing any players for a couple of weeks and you sec will raise. No.... it wont. Hence the point of this thread... Originally by: Sochin CCP has provided you with the tools you need to avoid crime. You're just too lazy/stupid to use them.
Dasher Prime	Posted - 2005.03.14 18:59:00 - [76] Originally by: Trishy Electra Edited by: Trishy Electra on 13/03/2005 11:43:59 Originally by: Gift pirates only ruin other peoples gaming experience, they dont deserve a "fun gaming experience" themselves allow me to say sir...you are an idiot a moron and a noob. without pirates there is no game... you carebears mine and build all day long. now as far as i know you guys bmine and build to sell stuff so that you could become isk lovin rich bastards. now imagine eve without pirates and no way to get your ship and you precious modules blown up. how much fun would eve be then? you would be mining and building but you would be selling anything...thus not gaining any isk..0thus not becomming one of those isk lovin rich bastards. why you ask? well simply BECOZ THERE IS NOTHING TO LOSE BECOZ THERE AINT NO PIRATES TO BLOW YOU UP! :> just my 2 isk now ontopic i say no. there are loads of easy ways to gain sec rating. as far as i know we blow people up so we have to be punished. i got my sec rating from -10.0 to -1.6 in a week. Ever hear of Corp wars?
Venture	Posted - 2005.03.14 21:23:00 - [77] Originally by: soap man Edited by: soap man on 13/03/2005 01:35:51 This is a petition asking CCP to give everyone a 0.1 rise in security rating every day. This would make life much easier for pirates, without going over the top. This would allow me to podkill once every three weeks, which is better than nothing. Everyone would be pretty much as safe in 0.4 if they are careful, and it would make a pirate's gaming experience so much more fun. Being banned from high sec space just means that people have to bother about logging on alts, and makes the game extremely frustrating. This is about making other people's gameplay more fun, so spare a thought for the people who chose the other side of EVE. Please sign if you agree. Are you mad? Why would CCP grant anyone a SS increase automatically ? And then on top of it, to pirates so that they can enjoy the benefits of high SS systems! OMG you've been smoking way too much of our product! I'm going to have to tell the guys to stop selling to you so you can see how stupid an idea you just brought up. ______________________ Ganja Unlimited Security Director/Fleet Admiral "Smoke everyone and be happy!"
Dionysus Davinci	Posted - 2005.03.14 21:35:00 - [78] Originally by: Venture Edited by: soap man on 13/03/2005 01:35:51Are you mad? Why would CCP grant anyone a SS increase automatically ? And then on top of it, to pirates so that they can enjoy the benefits of high SS systems! OMG you've been smoking way too much of our product! I'm going to have to tell the guys to stop selling to you so you can see how stupid an idea you just brought up. Why? Is there some benefit to locking yourself out of empire?
Murd 182	Posted - 2005.03.14 23:26:00 - [79] Originally by: MrMorph Originally by: Gift pirates only ruin other peoples gaming experience, they dont deserve a "fun gaming experience" themselves You got it all backwards.... Carebear ruins our game experience with WCS and SS'. They shouldnt be allowed to play at all :( Should learn to count M8. If carebears were not allowed, the game would shut down for lack of support. Next time you're in game look at your map and see where all the players are.
Qayos	Posted - 2005.03.14 23:54:00 - [80] Yes, give pirates free sec increases, and give people who get podded free implants and ships. If pirates dont want to have to deal with the repercussions of piracy, victims of pirates shouldn't have to deal with the repercussions of piracy either. Hell, if you are going down that road, just make this a PvP game where every time you die you pick up all your stuff at a weapon locker, respawn and go bash again... call it EVE Unreal Tournament. I'll stick with regular EVE though, and you can go play the EVE-UT one. Seriously... worst, idea, ever.
Wormin	Posted - 2005.03.15 13:06:00 - [81] The way I see it if you want to Pod kill people or be a pirate then you accept the consequences which is a sec decrease. If you don't want a decrease don't pod kill people / pirate people. If you want to be a pirate and don't like your low sec then you have to regain your status by killing NPC rats. The system is fairly simple and works. The only petition i would sign is one against this.
ShadowlordUK	Posted - 2005.03.15 13:22:00 - [82] At the moment security status isnt a very good indicator of whether somebody is a pirate or not. I'd vote for a change in the other way. Players who commit a pirate action recently should be made MORE obvious (perhaps something similar to the current criminal flagging except no limitations on travel). Pvp makes the game more interesting but if you make the choice to be a pirate then you shouldnt be able to hide when things get tough.
Roshan longshot	Posted - 2005.03.15 13:30:00 - [83] I would like to see a concord/race/Npc corp reaction squad that randomly choses a -10.0 person to harrass. Make them the old concord type that we used to be able to take on. Have them spawn from 0.4--0.0 close to empire space and do a system scan. When they detect a -9.9999 person they go on the attack. When that persons ship is destroyed he would get a 0.1 sec increase. Now this is no worse then the original posters idea... Free-form Professions, ensure no limetations on professions. Be a trader, fighter, industialist, researcher, hunter,pirate[/i] or mixture of them all. [i]As read from the original box and from this site.
Avon	Posted - 2005.03.15 14:46:00 - [84] Edited by: Avon on 15/03/2005 14:47:42 I am honestly surprised at all the negative replies to this. I guess the people moaning weren't around pre-castor when this system was in place and worked fine. Currently it is possible to NPC yourself back to good standings quite quickly if you so wish, and no-one is objecting to that, but somehow the thought of a long, slow, but automatic rehabilitation is rejected out of hand. I assume people just aren't thinking about this. 0.1 sec a day. It really isn't much. Why does this get painted as a 'whining pirate' thread? Surely this effects everyone, not just pirates. Hell, it even gives carebears a risk free way to recover from wtfpwning their local ore thief. This is a discussion about game mechanics, not some point scoring opportunity. The 0.1 per day sec increase was never an issue ... Concord agents, however... (oh how I miss them). ______________________________________________ Never argue with idiots. They will just drag it down to their level, and then beat you through experience.
mahhy	Posted - 2005.03.15 14:57:00 - [85] Originally by: soap man Its illegal, but its what i find fun in this game. The decision you are asking me to make is whether to have fun or not. See what i mean? Unlike others, i don't get thrills from mining. So, if pirating is what you find fun in this game, how would this idea ever help you? You're going to do what you find fun, so you're sec status will never increase... you'd have to stop pirating for what, 3 months? (assuming you get down to -10). 3 months of no fun? I don't see your point.
Avon	Posted - 2005.03.15 14:59:00 - [86] Originally by: mahhy Originally by: soap man Its illegal, but its what i find fun in this game. The decision you are asking me to make is whether to have fun or not. See what i mean? Unlike others, i don't get thrills from mining. So, if pirating is what you find fun in this game, how would this idea ever help you? You're going to do what you find fun, so you're sec status will never increase... you'd have to stop pirating for what, 3 months? (assuming you get down to -10). 3 months of no fun? I don't see your point. No, they just have to stop doing it in empire for 3 months... ______________________________________________ Never argue with idiots. They will just drag it down to their level, and then beat you through experience.
Koda	Posted - 2005.03.15 15:42:00 - [87] Signed. Sec. status affects all Pvp'ers not just pirates. Some righteous defender of the innocent attacks a -4.9 player? He gets the same sec. hit the rest of us scum do for ganking a miner. And as was pointed out, this system was previously in place and worked just fine. -------------- Share the love in the SNIGG Forums
Murd 182	Posted - 2005.03.15 16:30:00 - [88] Well, what about me! IÆve been playing the game since 2003 and my sec rating is 0.1. I only play about 10hrs a month and donÆt do the things that boost your rating. Consequently, when I go for an agent mission, IÆm only offered the crappy hauling or kill a few low level rat missions. I could use the 0.1 increase a day.
Famine Aligher'ri	Posted - 2005.03.15 16:54:00 - [89] My thoughts on Security status is as followed. When you pvp in low security empire, you lose security status really quick. You loose about 0.5 per engagement. You lose even more on POD kills. I forget the correct number but it's almost a full -1.0 per kill. So you can drop to -10 in like a couple of hours of killing. I mean this is almost fitting, I mean you are obviously killing someone in space. When you murder someone in real life, and people know of it then it's obviouse you're on the local news and the police are looking for you. So why should that change. Now, you mudered someone and you want your security uped. Well I don't see why ccp should help you out there. You did KILL someone you know heh. But there are cases of just engaging people who might seem hostile and ect. You give a good hit to your status even then. After awhile it adds up none the less. My opinion is pretty basic. The reasons I would want higher security status is to go into empire for goods. I have already expressed a lot that there are no goods in 0.1-0.4 systems, no matter how close they are to popular empire systems. I think if anything a change should be made to stations to get more goods in based on how close they are to populated systems. There is a supply and demand but the demand isn't being met. Even with multipal buy orders. No one seems to see these demands, they are instead flooded with more empire buy orders than ours. Why fly 5 hops when I got 20 buy orders here. So I think this would be better than sec stat increase daily. Besides you can up security by killing the wicked. -The Frig- Famine Aligher'ri, of The Aligher'ri -The Frig-
Dirtball	Posted - 2005.03.15 18:20:00 - [90] yes please bring back Dead Like Me... oh wait this is a petition for something else.

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