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soap man
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Posted - 2005.03.13 01:13:00 -
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Edited by: soap man on 13/03/2005 01:35:51
This is a petition asking CCP to give everyone a 0.1 rise in security rating every day. This would make life much easier for pirates, without going over the top. This would allow me to podkill once every three weeks, which is better than nothing.
Everyone would be pretty much as safe in 0.4 if they are careful, and it would make a pirate's gaming experience so much more fun. Being banned from high sec space just means that people have to bother about logging on alts, and makes the game extremely frustrating.
This is about making other people's gameplay more fun, so spare a thought for the people who chose the other side of EVE.
Please sign if you agree.
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Tekka
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Posted - 2005.03.13 01:17:00 -
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...no?
[http://www.dark-cartel.com] [http://unholy.killboard.net]
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Joshua Foiritain
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Posted - 2005.03.13 01:19:00 -
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I would go with a no as well. 
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Edoo
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Posted - 2005.03.13 01:22:00 -
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signed. Would be nice
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Gift
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Posted - 2005.03.13 01:22:00 -
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pirates only ruin other peoples gaming experience, they dont deserve a "fun gaming experience" themselves
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Rithal
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Posted - 2005.03.13 01:26:00 -
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I like it the way it is. No.
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soap man
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Posted - 2005.03.13 01:26:00 -
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if there would be a bad thing about it them please tell me, because i can't see one.
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Erucyll Turon
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Posted - 2005.03.13 01:32:00 -
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OMG signed 
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Jakk Graiseach
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Posted - 2005.03.13 01:54:00 -
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I can't believe you're asking for this - or that anyone has actually 'signed' it.
I hope some REAL pirates pod you saddos...
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Zanthiuse
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Posted - 2005.03.13 01:56:00 -
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signed, but maybe only .05 instead of .1? don't want to make things to easy.
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tullebukk
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Posted - 2005.03.13 02:10:00 -
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0,1 a day would be way to much
0.1 every week is better.
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Zell
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Posted - 2005.03.13 02:32:00 -
[12]
 Originally by: soap man
Edited by: soap man on 13/03/2005 01:35:51
This would allow me to podkill once every three weeks, which is better than nothing.
and...
This is about making other people's gameplay more fun,
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Does anyone else see the irony here??... 
"A coward dies a thousand times, the brave die just once.."
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Galk
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Posted - 2005.03.13 02:48:00 -
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While obviously you have a point here.
Something needs a balance, thats why the choice you make seems all the more daming.
Balance on this, don't hold you breath.
Offerd nothing but placid responce you bet, there is no simpathy for the guy that goes around ruining others enjoyment for the sake of there own, on the face value of it.
I know decent honest guys that treat it as simpley a game, unfortuntaley, mass populous and the people in charge will never see it that way.
You take the life of a pirate, expect no loving from anyone.
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Gungankllr
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Posted - 2005.03.13 02:52:00 -
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Your actions lowered your sec status, as a result you have to NPC to bring it back up.
www.hadean.org
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Ikvar
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Posted - 2005.03.13 03:09:00 -
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Edited by: Ikvar on 13/03/2005 03:12:13
It'd be nice if my sec status didn't go down at all. Good idea but I can't see it happening. 
Originally by: Gift
pirates only ruin other peoples gaming experience, they dont deserve a "fun gaming experience" themselves
Nice to know we're appreciated
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Thomas Torquemada
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Posted - 2005.03.13 03:19:00 -
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we used to have minimal increases a day, tbh it does suck tho, that only npcing for utterly ages gets you anywhere, for about 1 day and your back to square 1 for months again.
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Kjewla
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Posted - 2005.03.13 03:27:00 -
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Originally by: Gift
pirates only ruin other peoples gaming experience, they dont deserve a "fun gaming experience" themselves
Go hug a roid mate 
Signed...!
Nest etter styrken er ingenting st°rre enn evnen til Õ beherske den.
http://www.subroc.net/teddybears/
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Sochin
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Posted - 2005.03.13 03:36:00 -
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Signed.
Obviously the sec increase should only take you to 0.0.
Nemo me impune lacessit
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Ikvar
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Posted - 2005.03.13 04:22:00 -
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Although y'know, gift is CEO of Loot who are according to their website, a pirate corp
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Eviljohn
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Posted - 2005.03.13 08:25:00 -
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Blasting someone and podding them is an extreme crime so the punishment for that should be extreme.
Anyway if u really want to repair your sec u can its not that hard u can get from -10 to -1.5 in 6 to 10 days depending on how devoted or sad u are.
Ive done it twice now (sad) but it doesnt seem to last long ,the voices in my head tell me to burn things
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Alexander Reikson
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Posted - 2005.03.13 09:11:00 -
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I want 100 000 ISK every day free also. 
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Spy4Hire
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Posted - 2005.03.13 09:26:00 -
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... 'No'
player rats can go hunt stuff in 0.0 and bring their ratings up a lot better than 0.1 in a day if they want to put some effort into it.
Since it appears you're too lazy to want to try earning your sec rating back, then I say you're screwed. Go wander around 0.0 and get podded by the locals there a few times until you figure out it's easier to kill rats, get your sec up, and go into empire to pop a few unarmed haulers.
Until then, vanish.
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Reash
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Posted - 2005.03.13 10:26:00 -
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A low sec status is the punishment for been a pirate, there isnt much else to punish you so i dont see why that should be removed alwell 
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Ivana Killya
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Posted - 2005.03.13 10:44:00 -
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Edited by: Ivana Killya on 13/03/2005 10:44:34
WOW a cheese sales man would by rich just off this posts
cheese and wine go well together
Ivana
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Arbenowskee
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Posted - 2005.03.13 10:49:00 -
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What a great idea. Also CCP should give me a BS every month, AF every other day and full set of implants every week. Oh, I mustn't forget that interceptors should be given out like candy to the kids. They can also throw in a HAC or two while they're at it.
And let us beg for maxed out skills as well. I'll post a thread where i'll whine that someone has more SP than me and i want that corrected. Will anybody sign that? Please?
mmmm cookies. i like cookies.
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soap man
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Posted - 2005.03.13 10:53:00 -
[26]
Originally by: Ikvar
Edited by: Ikvar on 13/03/2005 03:12:13
It'd be nice if my sec status didn't go down at all. Good idea but I can't see it happening.
Originally by: Gift
pirates only ruin other peoples gaming experience, they dont deserve a "fun gaming experience" themselves
Nice to know we're appreciated
gift is a pirate
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soap man
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Posted - 2005.03.13 10:55:00 -
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Edited by: soap man on 13/03/2005 10:57:34
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soap man
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Posted - 2005.03.13 10:57:00 -
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Edited by: soap man on 13/03/2005 10:58:01
... 'No'
player rats can go hunt stuff in 0.0 and bring their ratings up a lot better than 0.1 in a day if they want to put some effort into it.
Since it appears you're too lazy to want to try earning your sec rating back, then I say you're screwed. Go wander around 0.0 and get podded by the locals there a few times until you figure out it's easier to kill rats, get your sec up, and go into empire to pop a few unarmed haulers.
Until then, vanish.[/i]
not all of us can spend every day of our lives playing EVE, and although you may do this, for others NPCing for days isn't an option.
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Draximus Prime
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Posted - 2005.03.13 11:28:00 -
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No.
You need to goto empire? Use an alt.
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Trishy Electra
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Posted - 2005.03.13 11:42:00 -
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Edited by: Trishy Electra on 13/03/2005 11:43:59
Originally by: Gift
pirates only ruin other peoples gaming experience, they dont deserve a "fun gaming experience" themselves
allow me to say sir...you are an idiot a moron and a noob.
without pirates there is no game...
you carebears mine and build all day long.
now as far as i know you guys bmine and build to sell stuff so that you could become isk lovin rich bastards.
now imagine eve without pirates and no way to get your ship and you precious modules blown up.
how much fun would eve be then?
you would be mining and building but you would be selling anything...thus not gaining any isk..0thus not becomming one of those isk lovin rich bastards.
why you ask?
well simply BECOZ THERE IS NOTHING TO LOSE BECOZ THERE AINT NO PIRATES TO BLOW YOU UP! :>
just my 2 isk
now ontopic
i say no.
there are loads of easy ways to gain sec rating.
as far as i know we blow people up so we have to be punished.
i got my sec rating from -10.0 to -1.6 in a week.
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soap man
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Posted - 2005.03.13 12:02:00 -
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Originally by: Draximus Prime
No.
You need to goto empire? Use an alt.
read the original post again
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soap man
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Posted - 2005.03.13 12:02:00 -
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Originally by: Reash
A low sec status is the punishment for been a pirate, there isnt much else to punish you so i dont see why that should be removed alwell
- Anti pirates
- Sentry guns
- Sec status will still be low, it just lets them recover more
- Bounties
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soap man
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Posted - 2005.03.13 12:04:00 -
[33]
Originally by: Trishy Electra
Edited by: Trishy Electra on 13/03/2005 11:43:59
Originally by: Gift
pirates only ruin other peoples gaming experience, they dont deserve a "fun gaming experience" themselves
allow me to say sir...you are an idiot a moron and a noob.
without pirates there is no game...
you carebears mine and build all day long.
now as far as i know you guys bmine and build to sell stuff so that you could become isk lovin rich bastards.
now imagine eve without pirates and no way to get your ship and you precious modules blown up.
how much fun would eve be then?
you would be mining and building but you would be selling anything...thus not gaining any isk..0thus not becomming one of those isk lovin rich bastards.
why you ask?
well simply BECOZ THERE IS NOTHING TO LOSE BECOZ THERE AINT NO PIRATES TO BLOW YOU UP! :>
just my 2 isk
now ontopic
i say no.
there are loads of easy ways to gain sec rating.
as far as i know we blow people up so we have to be punished.
i got my sec rating from -10.0 to -1.6 in a week.
not all of us can devote that much time to a game.
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MadGaz
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Posted - 2005.03.13 12:10:00 -
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Nope, I'm not too lazy to spend a few days ratting in 0.0 to get my sec back up.
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Dr MOo
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Posted - 2005.03.13 12:27:00 -
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Originally by: MadGaz
Nope, I'm not too lazy to spend a few days ratting in 0.0 to get my sec back up.
your alliance is in 0.0. Its harder for empire pirates who are not in an alliance. Personally i wouldn't get the time for that even if i did have 0.0 access.
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soap man
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Posted - 2005.03.13 12:30:00 -
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getting sec back up makes EVE a grind, like everquest etc.
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Nafri
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Posted - 2005.03.13 12:58:00 -
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Originally by: MadGaz
Nope, I'm not too lazy to spend a few days ratting in 0.0 to get my sec back up.
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thats nearly griefing
I did it for 2 month, and well I havent played since it
Wanna fly with me?
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Jakk Graiseach
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Posted - 2005.03.13 13:08:00 -
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Originally by: Dr MOo
your alliance is in 0.0. Its harder for empire pirates who are not in an alliance. Personally i wouldn't get the time for that even if i did have 0.0 access.
'Empire Pirates'??? No... stop... my sides hurt...
Those must be 'rats who want all the 'rewards' of pirating without the 'risk' of being KOS 24 hours a day, eh?
Hmm... like I said earlier - hope some REAL pirate comes along and pods your arses...
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Lygos
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Posted - 2005.03.13 14:29:00 -
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The game doesn't need everyone to have more positive security status. What pirates or other ne'erdowells need is more low sec infrastructure. Since npc stations are present but not much needed it becomes evident that what pirates need are market hubs. About +6 low sec hubs would do nicely, and put many gates into and out of such areas so larger groups would have a hard time dominating them.
Since pirates don't have much use for industrial counterparts in low sec space, it is also beholden that the creation of player empires demand the presence of industrial players and presence in alliances and the like as much as it calls for strict, self-righteous pvpers. A chance at profit means something to risk, something to protect and something worth attacking. Win-win if done right.
Either that or just implement an inverted concord and an evil yulai. Even if you can't get rid of alts, there would be a lot fewer of them flying around.
This way people can be more inclined to attack as much as they want rather than limit themselves to 1 attack per x number of days as a matter of habit.
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Avon
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Posted - 2005.03.13 14:37:00 -
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0.1 sec increase per day?
You mean how it used to be?
Signed.
Oh, and give us Concord agents again.
To those people moaning at the suggestion, what is really so bad about it?
Think it through.
100 days to go from -10 to 0
81 days to get back to a 1.0 system
51 days to get into a 0.5
Sounds like ample punishment for criminals. If a pirate is good for that many consecutive days, isn't that proof enough of their rehabilitation?
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Luc Boye
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Posted - 2005.03.13 15:00:00 -
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once upon the time ... :P
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Reash
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Posted - 2005.03.13 15:39:00 -
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"- Anti pirates
- Sentry guns
- Sec status will still be low, it just lets them recover more
- Bounties"
A lot of pirates still manage to maintain a pretty reasonable sec status, i dont believe this should happen, if you want to pirate you get a low sec, i dont see why you should get off easy with a constant rise.
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siim
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Posted - 2005.03.13 15:47:00 -
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Originally by: Gift
pirates only ruin other peoples gaming experience, they dont deserve a "fun gaming experience" themselves
what u just sayd
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Sheila Vix
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Posted - 2005.03.13 15:59:00 -
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ROFLMAO, petition for daily sec increase,
 Opp's, alt post, well it still stands, thanks for the laugh
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soap man
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Posted - 2005.03.13 16:37:00 -
[45]
Originally by: Jakk Graiseach
Originally by: Dr MOo
your alliance is in 0.0. Its harder for empire pirates who are not in an alliance. Personally i wouldn't get the time for that even if i did have 0.0 access.
'Empire Pirates'??? No... stop... my sides hurt...
Those must be 'rats who want all the 'rewards' of pirating without the 'risk' of being KOS 24 hours a day, eh?
Hmm... like I said earlier - hope some REAL pirate comes along and pods your arses...
Rewards of pirating? I suppose you are not experienced, but there is no profit, just lost ships and loads of anti-pirates on your ass.
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Edoo
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Posted - 2005.03.13 16:38:00 -
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Originally by: Alexander Reikson
I want 100 000 ISK every day free also.
you poor bastard
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RougeWonder9
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Posted - 2005.03.13 17:05:00 -
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No.
"getting sec back up makes EVE a grind, like everquest etc."
Kinda like the grind innocent(if there ever was such a thing)empire folks have to go thru agian getting back whatever they lost to u.U've got the same punishment with sec,but u had the choice they didn't... my 2 cents
RW9
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Lifewire
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Posted - 2005.03.13 18:50:00 -
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The whole TunDraGon crew did this hell trip to fix sec. rating to - 1.9. It¦s not fun - will never understand how people go npc-hunting and feel "fun" doing it - it¦s boring $hit! But i do not agree with "easy sec. rating repair" and daily +0.1. I even say sec. hits in 0.0 would force pirates to make their decission: be a pirate or be a navy guy. What we have right now is simply crap: guys like the TunDraGons should never been allowed to enter empire again - we podded thouasands of players...how can it be i wave to Concord ships now, hm? But i do wave to them and declaring war is an option
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Juneau Daley
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Posted - 2005.03.13 19:06:00 -
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You (the pirate) "chose" to carry out an illegal act. Therefore you as a pirate were aware of all the implicatiobns of carry out this illegal act and agreed to that when you locked and firedupon who ever.
Therefore take your petition tare it up and stand up and take your punishment like a true pirate. If you want to break the law expext to be punished.
Crap i aint seen Bin Laden carry out anyhting illegal in a few months maybe we should take him off the most wanted list and let him buy a house in Washinton DC???
Bah big fat no, stupidest petition ever imho.
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soap man
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Posted - 2005.03.13 19:18:00 -
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Originally by: Juneau Daley
You (the pirate) "chose" to carry out an illegal act. Therefore you as a pirate were aware of all the implicatiobns of carry out this illegal act and agreed to that when you locked and firedupon who ever.
Therefore take your petition tare it up and stand up and take your punishment like a true pirate. If you want to break the law expext to be punished.
Crap i aint seen Bin Laden carry out anyhting illegal in a few months maybe we should take him off the most wanted list and let him buy a house in Washinton DC???
Bah big fat no, stupidest petition ever imho.
Its illegal, but its what i find fun in this game. The decision you are asking me to make is whether to have fun or not. See what i mean? Unlike others, i don't get thrills from mining.
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Gift
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Posted - 2005.03.13 19:32:00 -
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Originally by: Trishy Electra
Edited by: Trishy Electra on 13/03/2005 11:43:59
Originally by: Gift
pirates only ruin other peoples gaming experience, they dont deserve a "fun gaming experience" themselves
allow me to say sir...you are an idiot a moron and a noob.
aye
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Thomas Torquemada
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Posted - 2005.03.13 19:52:00 -
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Edited by: Thomas Torquemada on 13/03/2005 19:56:28
Originally by: Jakk Graiseach
Originally by: Dr MOo
your alliance is in 0.0. Its harder for empire pirates who are not in an alliance. Personally i wouldn't get the time for that even if i did have 0.0 access.
'Empire Pirates'??? No... stop... my sides hurt...
Those must be 'rats who want all the 'rewards' of pirating without the 'risk' of being KOS 24 hours a day, eh?
Hmm... like I said earlier - hope some REAL pirate comes along and pods your arses...
Fair point there, however im -9.9 sec, and utterly kos to everyone aroudn me with no sentry gun assistance, going off your remarks about wheinging pirates who want a normal sec, what exactly do i have they dont? as an advantage, i mean, wheres my 'Reward' you mention.(as an empire only -9.9 insta kos pirate, with no customers to actually ransom/tackle) what rewards do we get for throwing our sec/safety away?
A Rack of miner 2's or basic cargo expanders?
I fail to see much in the way of reward vs risk for a pirate trade.
And no im not in an alliance, nor do i seek one, and i do not have access to 0.0 or a massive garden of battleships to chain for weeks.
I got no problem with the bad stuff my pirating brings etc, im just always amazed some idiots actually want to make life harder when it's already over the top in difficulty as a job/trade.
UPC - PVP'ers Good and Bad, How Do You Want Peace?
Through Talk Or In A Casket? We Decide!
Peace My Brothers... |
SaorAlba
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Posted - 2005.03.13 20:11:00 -
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Podding is an active game choice. Automaticly raising would be to easy for you lot. It would be a good idea to make mining a security raising activity, Yarr
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Jakk Graiseach
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Posted - 2005.03.13 20:24:00 -
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Originally by: Thomas Torquemada
I got no problem with the bad stuff my pirating brings etc, im just always amazed some idiots actually want to make life harder when it's already over the top in difficulty as a job/trade.
I don't want to make things harder for you - I just think the system is fine the way it is.
The whole concept of 'empire piracy' needing help is laughable. The Empire is supposed to be harder on Piracy.
I'm not anti-pirate, neither is our alliance. We're anti pilots-who-shoot-at-us. If you don't attack any SF members, we don't attack you. The pirate Corps we have at -10 like it that way. We don't claim space, we do claim the freedom to bloody well fly in it though. :)
If we were a pirate corps then we'd accept the game mechanics - I just expect 'real' pirates to do the same.
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Beringe
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Posted - 2005.03.13 21:20:00 -
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Edited by: Beringe on 13/03/2005 21:21:58
1. NPC your sec rating up, you lazy bastard.
2. If you're hopelessly criminal (-9.9 or whatever), perhaps you should start pirating in 0.0?
3. *laughs and points*
EDIT: Don't pod indiscriminantly when you're pirating in empire. And don't tell me you can't pirate in 0.4 and lower with a low sec rating. Tanking sentries/sniping, anyone?
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Thomas Torquemada
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Posted - 2005.03.13 22:07:00 -
[56]
Originally by: Beringe
Edited by: Beringe on 13/03/2005 21:21:58
1. NPC your sec rating up, you lazy bastard.
2. If you're hopelessly criminal (-9.9 or whatever), perhaps you should start pirating in 0.0?
3. *laughs and points*
EDIT: Don't pod indiscriminantly when you're pirating in empire. And don't tell me you can't pirate in 0.4 and lower with a low sec rating. Tanking sentries/sniping, anyone?
No such thing as pirating in 0.0, its just blob/fleet combat or ganking the odd player with nothing of worth.
Real pirating takes place in empire.
UPC - PVP'ers Good and Bad, How Do You Want Peace?
Through Talk Or In A Casket? We Decide!
Peace My Brothers... |
Zell
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Posted - 2005.03.13 23:15:00 -
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Edited by: Zell on 13/03/2005 23:19:18
Edited by: Zell on 13/03/2005 23:17:25
Originally by: soap man
Originally by: Juneau Daley
You (the pirate) "chose" to carry out an illegal act. Therefore you as a pirate were aware of all the implicatiobns of carry out this illegal act and agreed to that when you locked and firedupon who ever.
Therefore take your petition tare it up and stand up and take your punishment like a true pirate. If you want to break the law expext to be punished.
Crap i aint seen Bin Laden carry out anyhting illegal in a few months maybe we should take him off the most wanted list and let him buy a house in Washinton DC???
Bah big fat no, stupidest petition ever imho.
Its illegal, but its what i find fun in this game. The decision you are asking me to make is whether to have fun or not. See what i mean? Unlike others, i don't get thrills from mining.[/quote]
After all the game was written exclusivly with you in mind, no?
Oh, heres an afterthought....Why don't you declare war on someone, or does the thought of them shooten back offend you??
"A coward dies a thousand times, the brave die just once.." |
Lady Varith
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Posted - 2005.03.14 03:21:00 -
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Edited by: Lady Varith on 14/03/2005 03:32:27
Originally by: Trishy Electra
Edited by: Trishy Electra on 13/03/2005 11:43:59
Originally by: Gift
pirates only ruin other peoples gaming experience, they dont deserve a "fun gaming experience" themselves
allow me to say sir...you are an idiot a moron and a noob.
without pirates there is no game...
you carebears mine and build all day long.
now as far as i know you guys bmine and build to sell stuff so that you could become isk lovin rich bastards.
now imagine eve without pirates and no way to get your ship and you precious modules blown up.
how much fun would eve be then?
you would be mining and building but you would be selling anything...thus not gaining any isk..0thus not becomming one of those isk lovin rich bastards.
why you ask?
well simply BECOZ THERE IS NOTHING TO LOSE BECOZ THERE AINT NO PIRATES TO BLOW YOU UP! :>
just my 2 isk
now ontopic
i say no.
there are loads of easy ways to gain sec rating.
as far as i know we blow people up so we have to be punished.
i got my sec rating from -10.0 to -1.6 in a week.
You obviously dont know much if you dont know who gift is 
i vote no for daily sec increases, pirates lower it by killing inocents, then they whine they want it back for free? if you dont have the time to play the game and EARN you sec back why do you play the way you play, if you play to kill as a lot of people do, then why not tkae your corp into 0.0 and kill without any drawbacks, you dont even need to be in an alliance just go in and cause hell!
<Edit> Oh and remember eve is a PvP game you pirates are the minority of PvP'ers (if you call ganking PvP'ing anyway) and you believe it or not are not the primary source of ship loss in the game so the economy would survive well without you guys
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RollinDutchMasters
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Posted - 2005.03.14 03:27:00 -
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Originally by: Eviljohn
Blasting someone and podding them is an extreme crime so the punishment for that should be extreme.
When permadeath comes into EVE, podding will be an extreme crime.
Right now you lost a few million isk, plus implants. At most thats a mild mugging.
This would be nice to have, but I do understand that EVE is making the transition from PvP to PvE game, and that the more PvE that can be forced on people the better.
Originally by: Sochin
CCP has provided you with the tools you need to avoid crime. You're just too lazy/stupid to use them.
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Uggs386
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Posted - 2005.03.14 05:58:00 -
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Can anyone say lvl 4 missions. Battleship spawns in empire, so stop whining.
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Kuolematon
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Posted - 2005.03.14 06:32:00 -
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Holy Secrating, Batman! We must call whambulanze and get some phat lewt to pie-rats! They want it easy and fast and no worries! Heck, lets drop concoord from 0.8 and below and remove sentrys from 0.4 and below! Think about possibilities to enjoy YOUR OWN WAY OF YOUR GAME! I can imagine that in 1 year, you would see your own corp member wander to your gatecamp and you wtfpwn him! JOY! 
Oh, Gift is ebil carebear 
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Posted - 2005.03.14 06:57:00 -
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Originally by: Uggs386
Can anyone say lvl 4 missions. Battleship spawns in empire, so stop whining.
Noone has problems fixing sec status if they really want to. Its just incredibly long and tedious.
It would be nice if pirates were thrown a bone, since CCP moved all of the content that was in low-security space out to high-sec empire for the whiny carebear population. But hey, its not like one more nerf is going to kill piracy any more then the last eleven, right?
I really dont care either way though. Its not that relevant.
Originally by: Sochin
CCP has provided you with the tools you need to avoid crime. You're just too lazy/stupid to use them.
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MrMorph
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Posted - 2005.03.14 07:34:00 -
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Originally by: Gift
pirates only ruin other peoples gaming experience, they dont deserve a "fun gaming experience" themselves
You got it all backwards....
Carebear ruins our game experience with WCS and SS'.
They shouldnt be allowed to play at all :(
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Shai Faetal
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Posted - 2005.03.14 07:36:00 -
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no
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Typherin laidai
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Posted - 2005.03.14 08:40:00 -
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Signed 
Also WTB 1 * I Win Button II
Typherin LaiDai Care Negotitations Expert level 5
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Sennju Zensu
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Posted - 2005.03.14 10:22:00 -
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lol who proposed that?? you are a pirate or a careber ?!
if you kill other, assume it!! you can stay in 0.0 to 0.5 system, what the problem ?? if you wanna go in 0.6 - 1.0 use an alt or friends...
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Baconjoe
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Posted - 2005.03.14 11:21:00 -
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SO Signed!
We are cursed men
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Lepakko
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Posted - 2005.03.14 11:23:00 -
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Now who is a bigger carebear ? The carebear whining for getting podded by a gateganking pirate-wannabe or the gateganking pirate-wannabe whining for getting his sec down for gateganking the carebear ?
If you pirate then your sec goes down... !WTF are you pirating if you cant handle it ffs :) Jeez....,go to 0.0 shoot those nice juicy NPC¦s there to get it back up ..,simple as that.....
But if your too affrait to go to 0.0 then you might turn your gaming to a carebear thingie.....and start minning veld ffs.... |
Roshan longshot
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Posted - 2005.03.14 12:15:00 -
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Your lame pirate, you went down that path knowing what you would get for it. Try not killing any players for a couple of weeks and you sec will raise. Kill off some NPC BS spawns and it will go up faster.
Free-form Professions, ensure no limetations on professions. Be a trader, fighter, industialist, researcher, hunter,pirate[/i] or mixture of them all.
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Typherin laidai
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Posted - 2005.03.14 12:17:00 -
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Lol from what i can see none of the pie rats are whining.
Its just an idea .. one that doesn't require hours of boring NPC work 
So it gets my vote.
And should all people with low sec status be considered 'Scum' .. heh I know a lot of anti-pirate m8's who cant enter high sec due to their status's .. and theyre not 'bad' ppl. quite the oposite.
Meh just my thoughts 
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Jamius
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Posted - 2005.03.14 12:44:00 -
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Edited by: Jamius on 14/03/2005 12:45:30
"Being banned from high sec space just means that people have to bother about logging on alts, and makes the game extremely frustrating.
This is about making other people's gameplay more fun, so spare a thought for the people who chose the other side of EVE."
Hahahahaha - what a stoater. Oh my sides are splitting. I take it this is a joke?
I love it when player rats moan it's too hard being one. Cheers me up no end. Frustrated are you, aww you poor wee thing.
It's about making people's gameplay more fun is it. Yes, your style of gameplay, not mine and many others.
Also, Soap Man, you said that you can't see a bad thing with your proposed changes. This little statement opitimises the way you people think and how you are so tied up in your little ratting world you seem incapable of taking other types of players style of play into account.
Eve is supposed to support pirate players, not player rats who just kill kill kill.
Very funny but very sad post.
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Matthew Johnson
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Posted - 2005.03.14 16:56:00 -
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Ermm....go hunt rats?
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Pitt
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Posted - 2005.03.14 17:10:00 -
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Edited by: Pitt on 14/03/2005 17:12:41
Originally by: Gift
pirates only ruin other peoples gaming experience, they dont deserve a "fun gaming experience" themselves
Good to see that your sarcasm isn't just wasted on me Gift. To those that responded like forum sheep, use the link at the bottom of Gift's post.
edit: Forgot to add my no vote in as well, I'm working too hard to get mine up atm to just let your's go up for no reason. Look at it this way, you kill to lower it, kill to raise it.
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Gift
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Posted - 2005.03.14 17:20:00 -
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Originally by: Jamius
Hahahahaha - what a stoater. Oh my sides are splitting. I take it this is a joke?
I love it when player rats moan it's too hard being one. Cheers me up no end. Frustrated are you, aww you poor wee thing.
And this is why I dislike these "throw pirates a bone threads". It just gives the other side more ammo to throw at us whenever there is a legitimate issue that needs discussing. Pirates always lose on the forums not due a lack of merit in their argument but due to being a minority with an aggressive play style that directly conflicts with the play style of the majority.
Lesson 1 = can't win don't try.
Lesson 2 = Kill by any means available and let THEM cry on the forums.
my 2isk
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RollinDutchMasters
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Posted - 2005.03.14 17:44:00 -
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Originally by: Roshan longshot
Your lame pirate, you went down that path knowing what you would get for it. Try not killing any players for a couple of weeks and you sec will raise.
No.... it wont. Hence the point of this thread...
Originally by: Sochin
CCP has provided you with the tools you need to avoid crime. You're just too lazy/stupid to use them.
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Dasher Prime
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Posted - 2005.03.14 18:59:00 -
[76]
Originally by: Trishy Electra
Edited by: Trishy Electra on 13/03/2005 11:43:59
Originally by: Gift
pirates only ruin other peoples gaming experience, they dont deserve a "fun gaming experience" themselves
allow me to say sir...you are an idiot a moron and a noob.
without pirates there is no game...
you carebears mine and build all day long.
now as far as i know you guys bmine and build to sell stuff so that you could become isk lovin rich bastards.
now imagine eve without pirates and no way to get your ship and you precious modules blown up.
how much fun would eve be then?
you would be mining and building but you would be selling anything...thus not gaining any isk..0thus not becomming one of those isk lovin rich bastards.
why you ask?
well simply BECOZ THERE IS NOTHING TO LOSE BECOZ THERE AINT NO PIRATES TO BLOW YOU UP! :>
just my 2 isk
now ontopic
i say no.
there are loads of easy ways to gain sec rating.
as far as i know we blow people up so we have to be punished.
i got my sec rating from -10.0 to -1.6 in a week.
Ever hear of Corp wars?
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Venture
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Posted - 2005.03.14 21:23:00 -
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Originally by: soap man
Edited by: soap man on 13/03/2005 01:35:51
This is a petition asking CCP to give everyone a 0.1 rise in security rating every day. This would make life much easier for pirates, without going over the top. This would allow me to podkill once every three weeks, which is better than nothing.
Everyone would be pretty much as safe in 0.4 if they are careful, and it would make a pirate's gaming experience so much more fun. Being banned from high sec space just means that people have to bother about logging on alts, and makes the game extremely frustrating.
This is about making other people's gameplay more fun, so spare a thought for the people who chose the other side of EVE.
Please sign if you agree.
Are you mad? Why would CCP grant anyone a SS increase automatically ? And then on top of it, to pirates so that they can enjoy the benefits of high SS systems! OMG you've been smoking way too much of our product! I'm going to have to tell the guys to stop selling to you so you can see how stupid an idea you just brought up.
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Posted - 2005.03.14 21:35:00 -
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Originally by: Venture
Edited by: soap man on 13/03/2005 01:35:51Are you mad? Why would CCP grant anyone a SS increase automatically ? And then on top of it, to pirates so that they can enjoy the benefits of high SS systems! OMG you've been smoking way too much of our product! I'm going to have to tell the guys to stop selling to you so you can see how stupid an idea you just brought up.
Why? Is there some benefit to locking yourself out of empire?
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Murd 182
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Posted - 2005.03.14 23:26:00 -
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Originally by: MrMorph
Originally by: Gift
pirates only ruin other peoples gaming experience, they dont deserve a "fun gaming experience" themselves
You got it all backwards....
Carebear ruins our game experience with WCS and SS'.
They shouldnt be allowed to play at all :(
Should learn to count M8. If carebears were not allowed, the game would shut down for lack of support. Next time you're in game look at your map and see where all the players are.
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Qayos
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Posted - 2005.03.14 23:54:00 -
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Yes, give pirates free sec increases, and give people who get podded free implants and ships. If pirates dont want to have to deal with the repercussions of piracy, victims of pirates shouldn't have to deal with the repercussions of piracy either. Hell, if you are going down that road, just make this a PvP game where every time you die you pick up all your stuff at a weapon locker, respawn and go bash again... call it EVE Unreal Tournament. I'll stick with regular EVE though, and you can go play the EVE-UT one.
Seriously... worst, idea, ever.
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Wormin
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Posted - 2005.03.15 13:06:00 -
[81]
The way I see it if you want to Pod kill people or be a pirate then you accept the consequences which is a sec decrease. If you don't want a decrease don't pod kill people / pirate people.
If you want to be a pirate and don't like your low sec then you have to regain your status by killing NPC rats.
The system is fairly simple and works.
The only petition i would sign is one against this.
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ShadowlordUK
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Posted - 2005.03.15 13:22:00 -
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At the moment security status isnt a very good indicator of whether somebody is a pirate or not.
I'd vote for a change in the other way.
Players who commit a pirate action recently should be made MORE obvious (perhaps something similar to the current criminal flagging except no limitations on travel).
Pvp makes the game more interesting but if you make the choice to be a pirate then you shouldnt be able to hide when things get tough.
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Roshan longshot
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Posted - 2005.03.15 13:30:00 -
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I would like to see a concord/race/Npc corp reaction squad that randomly choses a -10.0 person to harrass. Make them the old concord type that we used to be able to take on. Have them spawn from 0.4--0.0 close to empire space and do a system scan. When they detect a -9.9999 person they go on the attack. When that persons ship is destroyed he would get a 0.1 sec increase.
Now this is no worse then the original posters idea...
Free-form Professions, ensure no limetations on professions. Be a trader, fighter, industialist, researcher, hunter,pirate[/i] or mixture of them all.
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Avon
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Posted - 2005.03.15 14:46:00 -
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Edited by: Avon on 15/03/2005 14:47:42
I am honestly surprised at all the negative replies to this.
I guess the people moaning weren't around pre-castor when this system was in place and worked fine.
Currently it is possible to NPC yourself back to good standings quite quickly if you so wish, and no-one is objecting to that, but somehow the thought of a long, slow, but automatic rehabilitation is rejected out of hand.
I assume people just aren't thinking about this.
0.1 sec a day.
It really isn't much.
Why does this get painted as a 'whining pirate' thread? Surely this effects everyone, not just pirates.
Hell, it even gives carebears a risk free way to recover from wtfpwning their local ore thief.
This is a discussion about game mechanics, not some point scoring opportunity.
The 0.1 per day sec increase was never an issue ... Concord agents, however... (oh how I miss them).
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mahhy
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Posted - 2005.03.15 14:57:00 -
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Originally by: soap man
Its illegal, but its what i find fun in this game. The decision you are asking me to make is whether to have fun or not. See what i mean? Unlike others, i don't get thrills from mining.
So, if pirating is what you find fun in this game, how would this idea ever help you?
You're going to do what you find fun, so you're sec status will never increase... you'd have to stop pirating for what, 3 months? (assuming you get down to -10). 3 months of no fun?
I don't see your point.
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Avon
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Posted - 2005.03.15 14:59:00 -
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Originally by: mahhy
Originally by: soap man
Its illegal, but its what i find fun in this game. The decision you are asking me to make is whether to have fun or not. See what i mean? Unlike others, i don't get thrills from mining.
So, if pirating is what you find fun in this game, how would this idea ever help you?
You're going to do what you find fun, so you're sec status will never increase... you'd have to stop pirating for what, 3 months? (assuming you get down to -10). 3 months of no fun?
I don't see your point.
No, they just have to stop doing it in empire for 3 months...
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Posted - 2005.03.15 15:42:00 -
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Signed.
Sec. status affects all Pvp'ers not just pirates. Some righteous defender of the innocent attacks a -4.9 player? He gets the same sec. hit the rest of us scum do for ganking a miner.
And as was pointed out, this system was previously in place and worked just fine.
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Murd 182
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Posted - 2005.03.15 16:30:00 -
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Well, what about me! IÆve been playing the game since 2003 and my sec rating is 0.1. I only play about 10hrs a month and donÆt do the things that boost your rating. Consequently, when I go for an agent mission, IÆm only offered the crappy hauling or kill a few low level rat missions. I could use the 0.1 increase a day.
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Famine Aligher'ri
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Posted - 2005.03.15 16:54:00 -
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My thoughts on Security status is as followed.
When you pvp in low security empire, you lose security status really quick. You loose about 0.5 per engagement. You lose even more on POD kills. I forget the correct number but it's almost a full -1.0 per kill. So you can drop to -10 in like a couple of hours of killing. I mean this is almost fitting, I mean you are obviously killing someone in space. When you murder someone in real life, and people know of it then it's obviouse you're on the local news and the police are looking for you. So why should that change. Now, you mudered someone and you want your security uped. Well I don't see why ccp should help you out there. You did KILL someone you know heh. But there are cases of just engaging people who might seem hostile and ect. You give a good hit to your status even then. After awhile it adds up none the less.
My opinion is pretty basic. The reasons I would want higher security status is to go into empire for goods. I have already expressed a lot that there are no goods in 0.1-0.4 systems, no matter how close they are to popular empire systems. I think if anything a change should be made to stations to get more goods in based on how close they are to populated systems. There is a supply and demand but the demand isn't being met. Even with multipal buy orders. No one seems to see these demands, they are instead flooded with more empire buy orders than ours. Why fly 5 hops when I got 20 buy orders here. So I think this would be better than sec stat increase daily.
Besides you can up security by killing the wicked.
-The Frig-
Famine Aligher'ri, of The Aligher'ri
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Dirtball
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Posted - 2005.03.15 18:20:00 -
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yes please bring back Dead Like Me... oh wait this is a petition for something else.
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Lygos
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Posted - 2005.03.15 18:42:00 -
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Edited by: Lygos on 15/03/2005 18:43:32
Adjustable security in general just seems like a bad idea. The only thing that should be adjustable is faction standing, and that should only entail economic consequences. It should mean more than a mere 5% too. 50% would be better.
What you should have to do is each corp pledge for or against a general faction. States generally don't like to allow you to pick and choose your allegiances. You can go against their allies only at your own discretion and face the consequences.
Like the real world, the first time you screw up, there should be career long consequences. Screw up and you may have an opportunity to switch sides.
Concord, and an inverted concord, should look at the world in black and white. You shoot a player loyal to an empire, you should never be able to enter that region in peace again unless you do something extraordinary to pledge yourself to them. Shoot a fellow corp pledged to a pirate faction and be excommunicated. This is the main reason why the monolithic concord is undesirable. A huge collection of factions would be better.
There should be room for flexibility, but you should have to encounter the consequences of shooting whatever you want and having no allegiances. You want to be a consumate individual then you have to suffer ever privation to come of that.
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Thomas Torquemada
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Posted - 2005.03.15 19:24:00 -
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Pirates have plenty to worry about being KOS instantly to every traveler he meets or that appears local with them, the only problem i see is that when your sec is massivly bad, everyone moans that we deserve it, we are afterall playing the role we chose for fun.
Miners mine.
PVPers PVP / Do Fleet Stuff
Production PPL to Production
Pirates Kill/Loot (Or try too)
Etc.
Pirating is a legitimate role, and tbh id like too see any other role non pvpers take on that inhibits them in any way at all, they have absolutely zero risk whatsoever, this is their choice, so be it, I can live with that.
Pirates have masses of risk, from both sentries and other players, their massivly limited in movement and are pretty good targets to gank themselves when their caught solo by another pvper/pvp group.
So then what? safe non pvpers appear in pvp territory with nasty pirates in it, then proceed to get blown to shreds.... moan.... send hate mail.... then whine like mad on the forums that they got wasted in unsecure/hostile space.
So you have people that can avoid bad space but cant be bothered staying at their keyboard (many ive killed admitted or it was obvious they were afk) they cant be bothered or their too lazy to check a map, or change autopilot route to avoid bad systems/podkill zones (probably because their too impatient for a longer route).
Then you have your average pirate, hangs around paranoid about every old or pvp related player that enters local, he doesnt mine etc, pirating is his choice of work, he waits.... waits.... waits..... finds a target and kills it, sec decreases massivly, eventually hes stuck in low sec for eternity. Everyones reply is NPC or do Agent runs or Get lost and die your a stinking evil pirate you deserve to get all the bad stuff.
End result is, pirates get the doggy doo end of the stick, to manage their trade they are stuck/limited in traveling, and can be freely blown to shreds, non pvpers can stay exactly where they wish too and npc/do massivly rewarding agent missions all day long for the rest of their eve career.
If someone could point out the good or beneficial part about being a pirate id love to weigh that against the obvious non pvp good points, and i certainly cannot think of any bad points to being a carefree "i can do everything i wish too" non pvper.
So Pirate/Non Pirate Rewarding/Non Rewarding Points? Any Takers?
UPC - PVP'ers Good and Bad, How Do You Want Peace?
Through Talk Or In A Casket? We Decide!
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Posted - 2005.03.15 19:34:00 -
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Edited by: xOm3gAx on 15/03/2005 19:37:04
well back in the day ccp used to give a .1 increase per day up to 0.0 of course and used to have agents you could "bribe" to adjust your sec rating provided it wasnt too low... i would rather see a sec increase a bit higher then what it i but im not complaining though the bribing factor should be in game again imho but put a better limit on it so its not as abused as it once was say you can bribe an angent if your sec status is above -2.5 above being closer to the positive range... or even higher then that say -2.0 and put a time limit on it so that you only get it after a specified amount of tiem say 24-48 hours after the bribe took place as things of this nature would naturally take time and also make it so you have to have good standings with the particular agent or the agents faction to do so making it even harder to abuse ;) It would make things a bit more interesting because i currently see no dif in danger from .1 and up provided your not a noob ;) Mind you this is just a thought that I and a few friends would like to see but i dont speak for everyone just myself and a few people i know.
anyway just my .02 isk
<e> and yes as was pointed out earlier the pre-castor system worked great =) </e>
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Posted - 2005.03.15 19:36:00 -
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Edited by: Liu Kaskakka on 15/03/2005 19:38:14
As someone already pointed out, every 'not-totally-nub' knows how to get their sec up faster than 0.1 a day. Actually, I bet that if this system was in place, a lot of pie rats might rather 'be good' and wait for the automatical sec increase for a while rather than NPCing for a while and going back on the killing spree.
And as someone else has pointed out, this issue really affects non-pirates aswell. Might even affect more than pirates, since they often dont mind going all the way to -10.
Edit: Although, I don't think anything good will come out of this thread, the vocal majority often don't see beyond their blown up badger.
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Threat
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Posted - 2005.03.15 19:53:00 -
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I say bring back concord agents. You really don't need to pod someone in empire, it was a concious choice that you made to get to -10 (or -5). You should have to work for any increase, whether it be NPCing or working for concord.
While boosting it 0.1 per whatever might not be too terrible for the majority of players there are plenty of people that would abuse it. For example,Lets assume your insurance is up on your battleship just around the time your security gets to 0.0, you fly to empire and nail every ship in sight for as long as you can tank concord (an apoc with SB's comes to mind). All this while your alt or friend collects the loot. Finally you lose your ship and get that nice insurance payout. You fly back to 0.4, buy a new ship and wait out your time until you can do it again. What have you lost compared to others?
I hope I didn't just give anyone any ideas.
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Feta Solamnia
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Posted - 2005.03.16 12:21:00 -
[96]
NO
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Rodge
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Posted - 2005.03.16 13:24:00 -
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I don't understand why pirates would think that Concord should just "forgive" a little of their crimes every day, just because they haven't done any piracy for a while. After all, they're not offering any apologies for what they've done, they're just refraining from doing any more harm.
If the pirate pods someone and gets a -1.0 sec penalty, perhaps they could get half of that back if they reimbuse the victim for his loss (including lost implants)?
I sympathise with the plight of a pirate, and would like to see CCP boost the profession some way to make it more attractive. But messing with sec statuses is not the way. You do the crime, you do the time! In a lot of cases, the victims have done a lot of hard work to accumulate what you have taken. It's only fair that the pirate is expected to work hard to pay off his debt to society.
I don't accept lack of play time as an excuse. Pirates make a very conscious decision to pod in low sec, knowing the penalty. What point is there if someone only plays weekends and works out that he can pod one person on a Sunday and have his sec status clean again by the following Saturday...
So a NO for raising sec status every day/week, but a YES for finding some way of boosting piracy.
[ 2005.04.17 00:34:30 ] Nagilam > u better leave Rodge, u will not gank any1 else 2nite......
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RectuM Hunter
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Posted - 2005.03.16 13:47:00 -
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I think that it is a foridablela' idea, all those bad little pirates might 'ave what I am searching for, let them in to secure space and embrace them by ther cute little anuses...Mmmmmmmmm
Sniff, Sniff.....
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Fragm
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Posted - 2005.03.16 13:51:00 -
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Originally by: Rodge
I don't understand why pirates would think that Concord should just "forgive" a little of their crimes every day, just because they haven't done any piracy for a while. After all, they're not offering any apologies for what they've done, they're just refraining from doing any more harm.
If the pirate pods someone and gets a -1.0 sec penalty, perhaps they could get half of that back if they reimbuse the victim for his loss (including lost implants)?
I sympathise with the plight of a pirate, and would like to see CCP boost the profession some way to make it more attractive. But messing with sec statuses is not the way. You do the crime, you do the time! In a lot of cases, the victims have done a lot of hard work to accumulate what you have taken. It's only fair that the pirate is expected to work hard to pay off his debt to society.
I don't accept lack of play time as an excuse. Pirates make a very conscious decision to pod in low sec, knowing the penalty. What point is there if someone only plays weekends and works out that he can pod one person on a Sunday and have his sec status clean again by the following Saturday...
So a NO for raising sec status every day/week, but a YES for finding some way of boosting piracy.
i think people need to look at the fact that you go to -10 very fast.... once a pirate is at - 10 there is no further they can go....... so if you show them a little light at the end of the tunnel then maybe you might turn some pirates from as our carebears in eve call it greefing.
This would help pirates and care bears alike what a fantastic Idea i think everyone should get behind it
and stop moaning about you did it you fix it nanana bo bo Blah!
Cao Cao > Alright well I checked the logs, and I got wtfpwned, I admit I was wrong, nice kill guys
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soap man
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Posted - 2005.03.18 21:00:00 -
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Originally by: Kuolematon
Holy Secrating, Batman! We must call whambulanze and get some phat lewt to pie-rats! They want it easy and fast and no worries! Heck, lets drop concoord from 0.8 and below and remove sentrys from 0.4 and below! Think about possibilities to enjoy YOUR OWN WAY OF YOUR GAME! I can imagine that in 1 year, you would see your own corp member wander to your gatecamp and you wtfpwn him! JOY!
Oh, Gift is ebil carebear
i wanted to remain peaceful in my responses, but this is the limit. You are whining, i was peacefully making my point clear.
Please read my other posts.
Please don't exadurate my original idea to include other things which i do not believe in, so that you can make yourself look correct. Your post lacks much intelligence or a point to it. Please try reading other posts instead of being an ass tnx.
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soap man
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Posted - 2005.03.18 21:01:00 -
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Originally by: Sennju Zensu
lol who proposed that?? you are a pirate or a careber ?!
if you kill other, assume it!! you can stay in 0.0 to 0.5 system, what the problem ?? if you wanna go in 0.6 - 1.0 use an alt or friends...
*sighs* read my posts. Your point has been covered.
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soap man
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Posted - 2005.03.18 21:02:00 -
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Originally by: Lepakko
Now who is a bigger carebear ? The carebear whining for getting podded by a gateganking pirate-wannabe or the gateganking pirate-wannabe whining for getting his sec down for gateganking the carebear ?
If you pirate then your sec goes down... !WTF are you pirating if you cant handle it ffs :) Jeez....,go to 0.0 shoot those nice juicy NPC¦s there to get it back up ..,simple as that.....
But if your too affrait to go to 0.0 then you might turn your gaming to a carebear thingie.....and start minning veld ffs....
once again, please don't make up non existant information. I do not gate gank, im not afraid to go into 0.0, read my posts please im getting irritated at people's stubborness.
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soap man
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Posted - 2005.03.18 21:04:00 -
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Originally by: Typherin laidai
Lol from what i can see none of the pie rats are whining.
Its just an idea .. one that doesn't require hours of boring NPC work
So it gets my vote.
And should all people with low sec status be considered 'Scum' .. heh I know a lot of anti-pirate m8's who cant enter high sec due to their status's .. and theyre not 'bad' ppl. quite the oposite.
Meh just my thoughts
Thanks for recognising a simple idea, which other people are clearly missing.
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soap man
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Posted - 2005.03.18 21:08:00 -
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Originally by: Jamius
Edited by: Jamius on 14/03/2005 12:45:30
"Being banned from high sec space just means that people have to bother about logging on alts, and makes the game extremely frustrating.
This is about making other people's gameplay more fun, so spare a thought for the people who chose the other side of EVE."
Hahahahaha - what a stoater. Oh my sides are splitting. I take it this is a joke?
I love it when player rats moan it's too hard being one. Cheers me up no end. Frustrated are you, aww you poor wee thing.
It's about making people's gameplay more fun is it. Yes, your style of gameplay, not mine and many others.
Also, Soap Man, you said that you can't see a bad thing with your proposed changes. This little statement opitimises the way you people think and how you are so tied up in your little ratting world you seem incapable of taking other types of players style of play into account.
Eve is supposed to support pirate players, not player rats who just kill kill kill.
Very funny but very sad post.
Once again, don't make up facts that don't exist. You do not know how i play the game, so stop being an ass. I have met you before in game you know. You wanted to mine, and you asked me to leave you alone. I left you, and my sides are splitting, because you don't know what you are talking about. I think i won't let you off again. You expect pirates to leave you alone to mine in unsecure space - your wishes are granted and listen to yourself. Ah lol.
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soap man
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Posted - 2005.03.18 21:11:00 -
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Originally by: Venture
Originally by: soap man
Edited by: soap man on 13/03/2005 01:35:51
This is a petition asking CCP to give everyone a 0.1 rise in security rating every day. This would make life much easier for pirates, without going over the top. This would allow me to podkill once every three weeks, which is better than nothing.
Everyone would be pretty much as safe in 0.4 if they are careful, and it would make a pirate's gaming experience so much more fun. Being banned from high sec space just means that people have to bother about logging on alts, and makes the game extremely frustrating.
This is about making other people's gameplay more fun, so spare a thought for the people who chose the other side of EVE.
Please sign if you agree.
Are you mad? Why would CCP grant anyone a SS increase automatically ? And then on top of it, to pirates so that they can enjoy the benefits of high SS systems! OMG you've been smoking way too much of our product! I'm going to have to tell the guys to stop selling to you so you can see how stupid an idea you just brought up.
This makes me laugh. 0.1 is a minimal amount. A SS in 0.4 is just as safe as high sec empire. Your point is hugely exadurated, and in practice you are wrong.
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soap man
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Posted - 2005.03.18 21:13:00 -
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Originally by: Qayos
Yes, give pirates free sec increases, and give people who get podded free implants and ships. If pirates dont want to have to deal with the repercussions of piracy, victims of pirates shouldn't have to deal with the repercussions of piracy either. Hell, if you are going down that road, just make this a PvP game where every time you die you pick up all your stuff at a weapon locker, respawn and go bash again... call it EVE Unreal Tournament. I'll stick with regular EVE though, and you can go play the EVE-UT one.
Seriously... worst, idea, ever.
I see you have troubles with either you reading, or your interpretation of basic text. This would allow you to pod ONCE every 2 weeks, and that doesn't include killing their ship! Sorry to offend you, but i must point out that you are completely wrong.
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soap man
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Posted - 2005.03.18 21:16:00 -
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Originally by: mahhy
Originally by: soap man
Its illegal, but its what i find fun in this game. The decision you are asking me to make is whether to have fun or not. See what i mean? Unlike others, i don't get thrills from mining.
So, if pirating is what you find fun in this game, how would this idea ever help you?
You're going to do what you find fun, so you're sec status will never increase... you'd have to stop pirating for what, 3 months? (assuming you get down to -10). 3 months of no fun?
I don't see your point.
WTF man you are messed. Some people play games for fun, now i don't know if you chose to ebay maybe, or you get a genuine thrill from not having fun, but what you are saying doesn't apply to normal people. I don't have 0.0 access ok? Why won't this pass through your skull?
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soap man
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Posted - 2005.03.18 21:22:00 -
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Originally by: Rodge
I don't understand why pirates would think that Concord should just "forgive" a little of their crimes every day, just because they haven't done any piracy for a while. After all, they're not offering any apologies for what they've done, they're just refraining from doing any more harm.
If the pirate pods someone and gets a -1.0 sec penalty, perhaps they could get half of that back if they reimbuse the victim for his loss (including lost implants)?
I sympathise with the plight of a pirate, and would like to see CCP boost the profession some way to make it more attractive. But messing with sec statuses is not the way. You do the crime, you do the time! In a lot of cases, the victims have done a lot of hard work to accumulate what you have taken. It's only fair that the pirate is expected to work hard to pay off his debt to society.
I don't accept lack of play time as an excuse. Pirates make a very conscious decision to pod in low sec, knowing the penalty. What point is there if someone only plays weekends and works out that he can pod one person on a Sunday and have his sec status clean again by the following Saturday...
So a NO for raising sec status every day/week, but a YES for finding some way of boosting piracy.
Its a game. We play to have fun, sorry if you dont.
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dantes inferno
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Posted - 2005.03.18 22:30:00 -
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yes piracy is a legitimate carrer path in eve..but its comes at a price...your security status. you kill people and their ships, ships which would take people hours of work to get, and possibly million isk worth of implants. i agree people should not wine and moan about been killed..its part of the game. you enter low sec space you know the risks, at the same time pirates should not moan about the consequences of their carrer..i.e loss in sec status, unable to enter
high sec empire. their is a way in the game to increase ur sec status..yes it take a lot of long boring mind numbing npc hunting which aint much fun...but then again the victims of your attacks have to go through long boring mind numbing missions/minning to get the stuuf they loose from from you killin them. so in a way its balanced out. their are consequences to your actions, as their is in rl. as i already mentioned carebears should not wine about you killing them..and you should not wine about the consequences. though pirates can be annoying at time i also feel that the game would be a much more boring place without them. so some system should be in place for them to increase their sec status (in this im talking about people without access to 0.0 to be fair it is virtualy impossible to increase you sec status without it) but it should not be handed on a plate to the pirate it should be something he works for.
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Jane Vladmir
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Posted - 2005.03.19 15:55:00 -
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signed, but yeah, in my and yours and yours and yours and .. dreams.
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vanBuskirk
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Posted - 2005.03.21 14:51:00 -
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Originally by: Avon
0.1 sec increase per day?
You mean how it used to be?
Signed.
Oh, and give us Concord agents again.
To those people moaning at the suggestion, what is really so bad about it?
Think it through.
100 days to go from -10 to 0
81 days to get back to a 1.0 system
51 days to get into a 0.5
Sounds like ample punishment for criminals. If a pirate is good for that many consecutive days, isn't that proof enough of their rehabilitation?
No, it isn't.
If your security status is below -5.0, it means you have wasted many hundreds of hours of other people's time that they have spent working for the stuff you just blew up/stole.
So waste some of your time in recompense.
As an aside, personally I think that piracy, although distasteful to me and to a majority of EVE, is part of the game.
Podkilling ought to mean that you are KOS in any part of Empire until someone manages to kill you, with a bounty equal in value to the average market value of the implants you just wasted, plus the cost of the clone you just activated.
Eye for an eye and tooth for a tooth.
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Jamius
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Posted - 2005.03.21 15:49:00 -
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"Once again, don't make up facts that don't exist"
em exactly what facts did I make up that don't exist Soap? Please be specific as your response to me is ambiguous at best.
I am not saying you specifically are a horrible player Soap Man, the fact you left me alone a while back was good of you. However if I do remember correctly there were some circumstances surrounding that time that I don't want to go into but it wasn't so simple as you just leaving me alone cos I asked. Anyway I did appreciate it. Just never remembered till you mentioned it.
But you cannot deny your statements are a little narrow minded and favour the pirate player. I'll admit it would also favour the bounty hunter type player who might be killing the pirate players but generally it favours pirates and player killers.
Sorry if I've assumed you are a pirate or player killer when you are not but please tell us what type of player you are then as you are setting yourself up for being grouped with pirates and PK's.
The fact you honoured my request to be left alone shows you are honourable and I like an honourable person.
However memories are starting to return and it wasn't you and some freinds that attacked and killed one of my buddies was it (who wasn't in Xetic as their bio said Xetic freindly - I was in Xetic at the time). If it was then please tell me as that mate of mine left Eve because of that incident. It was the straw that broke the camels back for him.
Hope to see you in game Soap and we can have a chat.
Cheers.
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Karsten
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Posted - 2005.03.21 18:44:00 -
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no
Karsten
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rockboy
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Posted - 2005.03.21 21:12:00 -
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damn it, they locked my very good suggestion to drop sec rating .1 a day:
http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=163295
but really.. everyone knows being yellow is sexy.
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Miner's Bane
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Posted - 2005.03.21 21:18:00 -
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It would be better if all of the NPCs were fixed to the level of the 750k battleships, which are the only correct ones in my view.
And yeah, a passive sec increase would be a good idea. Won't happen though, just like moving lvl 4 kill missions to low-sec. To many people would have a crying fit if they had to play EVE and not low-quality WoW.
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Deepeh
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Posted - 2005.03.21 21:24:00 -
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I disagree and thus don't sign. Security status should be static, and only change when you, the player, do something to make it change.
If you want to pirate in empire but don't like the sec decrease, then don't do it. Same story with jet mining and all the other stuff people complain about, if you don't like it, drop it. ;)
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Static Ga'lraith
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Posted - 2005.03.21 21:27:00 -
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I say you should work for your security increase. You were the one who got it down so low, you should be the one who has to go through the effort of getting it back. You shouldn't be relying on CCP to give you a helping hand when it had nothing to do with them in the first place.
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