Anyone who has ever tried to kill capitals escalating knows about these problems.

There are 2 major causes of this im not gonna list them here to give bears any more advice but anyone who has tried to kill them knows what they are, 1 of them is being fixed in the winter update thankfully but this is still not for months.

I can see why many PvP'ers leave for NS, why verge do NS roams all the time because there are so few targets in WH's, almost nobody wants to fight. Recently we come up against people who wont engage us with 2x our numbers and in their hole wormhole where they can field multiple caps. We chain collapse for hours and hours every day. Often 4-6 hours a day and most days we find nothing other than a gas miner.

The isk farmers know they cannot be touched. If their wormhole gets invaded they just move to another one, there is almost limitless amounts of empty C5's and C6's. There is no reason to invade somwons wormhole other than not liking them due to the emptyness. There should be some reason that makes some wormholes better than others, some reason to invade other than saying "i dont like you"

Some wormholes should have multiple statics, amazing PI, higher chance of sleepers sites spawning, better gas sites, better roids or anything that makes them worth fighting over. In nullsec its worth fighting so systems can be taxed, to get better moon minerals etc. In wormholes people only fight for short bursts of fun but there is nothing long term to do here apart from print isk without risk.

Anyone who has ever tried to kill capitals escalating knows about these problems.

There are 2 major causes of this im not gonna list them here to give bears any more advice but anyone who has tried to kill them knows what they are, 1 of them is being fixed in the winter update thankfully but this is still not for months.

One which Elysian Empire tends to use themselves.

Recently we come up against people who wont engage us with 2x our numbers and in their hole

You (Elysian) should tell them about that time you guys were 2x more than us in your hole and didnt engage while we were killing your tower and stealin your loot :)

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Hell, even my humble Tengu (which actually IS solo 98% of the time) rarely gets engaged in lowclass WHs when I find actives and try to pick fights unless they have hours to prepare the perfect counter, which then leads to me bailing as I'm not going to throw away billion ISK ships to people who outnumber me and are in ships they've spent 2 hours fitting out specifically to kill me.

The other large part of it is that all the large players in WHs are well known and as such, many will not fight them on principle because they know they can't match them on numbers or ship quality.
This leads to the large players hiding their numbers as a matter of fact which cycles back into paranoia as people will always expect people like AHARM, Exhale or EE to have many more available ship sthat they openly show on field.

IMO the cost of the ship does not really matter.
I understand what you mean but on the other hand - as a "WSpace dweller" who is doing it right, you are rich as **** and can easily afford 20 of those 1.5 Billion isk tengus.

Those ships are throw away ships just as the trashers in 0.0.

sure, even if you take ISK out of the equation, you can lose at most 1 T3 every 5 days, just to keep up with the subsystem skill training.
obviously just training subs back up is not viable.

T3s are not throw away ships, no matter how much ISK you have.

ramblings

I think you'll find that almost everyone who lives in WHs will tell you that mechanics wise, WHs are one of the best things CCP ever put into the game.
The things you listed as negatives are the entire point and the best parts about WHs.

Anyone who has ever tried to kill capitals escalating knows about these problems.

There are 2 major causes of this im not gonna list them here to give bears any more advice but anyone who has tried to kill them knows what they are, 1 of them is being fixed in the winter update thankfully but this is still not for months.

I can see why many PvP'ers leave for NS, why verge do NS roams all the time because there are so few targets in WH's, almost nobody wants to fight. Recently we come up against people who wont engage us with 2x our numbers and in their hole wormhole where they can field multiple caps. We chain collapse for hours and hours every day. Often 4-6 hours a day and most days we find nothing other than a gas miner.

The isk farmers know they cannot be touched. If their wormhole gets invaded they just move to another one, there is almost limitless amounts of empty C5's and C6's. There is no reason to invade somwons wormhole other than not liking them due to the emptyness. There should be some reason that makes some wormholes better than others, some reason to invade other than saying "i dont like you"

Some wormholes should have multiple statics, amazing PI, higher chance of sleepers sites spawning, better gas sites, better roids or anything that makes them worth fighting over. In nullsec its worth fighting so systems can be taxed, to get better moon minerals etc. In wormholes people only fight for short bursts of fun but there is nothing long term to do here apart from print isk without risk.

Which assumes you have nothing better to train instead as well. Even more fun this winter when you can no longer eject.

I am also frustrated by the Quantum Flux Generator - it should be a great piece of nullsec infrastructure, but in reality, it is impossible to actually tell if the thing is working.

EE cannot blob = WH pvp Broken