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Christy D Floyd
Astra Research
76
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Posted - 2012.10.09 12:33:00 -
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Simple question How does one either apply or is selected to become an ISD? Money is better than poverty, if only for financial reasons. |

Pak Narhoo
Knights of Kador
723
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Posted - 2012.10.09 12:34:00 -
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http://community.eveonline.com/isd.asp Hi, I'm CCP Arrow, I screwed up the.. ummm... |

Alice Saki
9347
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Posted - 2012.10.09 12:37:00 -
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Requirement #1 You have to Control my posting :D Scottish Interweb Spaceshippy Person, Very Easily Confused. I like to show my Love by Smashing people in the face with a big Hammer.
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Destiny Corrupted
Deadly Viper Kitten Mitten Sewing Company
1050
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Posted - 2012.10.09 12:55:00 -
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I heard that having prior work experience in the government of DPRK or maybe Belarus is a big plus. (USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST) |

Lord Ryan
True Xero
695
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Posted - 2012.10.09 13:10:00 -
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you need to get a snip Do not assume-áanything above this line-áwas typed by me. Nerf the Truth, it's inconvenient. Nerf it cause I can't fly it. I want to fly a badass Mon Calamari stlye-ácruiser painted to match my Tron clothes. |

Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
9800
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Posted - 2012.10.09 13:15:00 -
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Grow roughly 100,000% larger, install six squadrons of TIE fighters, enough ground forces to land and man an entire garrison, and roughly a bajillion turbo lasers and ion cannons. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: newbie skill plan.
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Jonah Gravenstein
Mahatma Cote Temporal Research
1575
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Posted - 2012.10.09 13:20:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Grow roughly 100,000% larger, install six squadrons of TIE fighters, enough ground forces to land and man an entire garrison, and roughly a bajillion turbo lasers and ion cannons.
Millenium Falcon > ISD simply because it can turn distance into time Homo sapiens non urinat in ventum -á-á-á ---CCP can't patch stupid--- |

Jake Warbird
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
1765
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Posted - 2012.10.09 13:20:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Grow roughly 100,000% larger, install six squadrons of TIE fighters, enough ground forces to land and man an entire garrison, and roughly a bajillion turbo lasers and ion cannons. Sounds legit. |
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
4990
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Posted - 2012.10.09 13:23:00 -
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Pak Narhoo wrote:http://community.eveonline.com/isd.asp At least this first response wasn't a troll. We need more of these threads.
/c
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Nanatoa
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
15
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Posted - 2012.10.09 13:27:00 -
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Jonah Gravenstein wrote:Tippia wrote:Grow roughly 100,000% larger, install six squadrons of TIE fighters, enough ground forces to land and man an entire garrison, and roughly a bajillion turbo lasers and ion cannons. Millenium Falcon > ISD simply because it can turn distance into time
An ISD couldn't complete the Kessel Run anyhow. It is never too late to turn from the errors of your ways: He who repents of his sins is almost innocent.
MinerBumping.com |

Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
9800
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Posted - 2012.10.09 13:27:00 -
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Chribba wrote:Pak Narhoo wrote:http://community.eveonline.com/isd.asp At least this first response wasn't a troll. We need more of these threads. Pah! The first post just exhausted all options of answering correctly. That leaves wilful misinterpretations of GÇ£ISDGÇ¥ as the only remaining point of conversation.  GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: newbie skill plan.
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ISD Suvetar
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
256

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Posted - 2012.10.09 13:28:00 -
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Chribba wrote:Pak Narhoo wrote:http://community.eveonline.com/isd.asp At least this first response wasn't a troll. We need more of these threads. /c
Yup, this is the right way.
Choose a department you're interested in and just be honest!
If you love EVE and have a passion for the community, that'll count for more then experience elsewhere.
Thanks for your interest! ISD Suvetar Captain Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department |
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Eugene Kerner
TunDraGon
156
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Posted - 2012.10.09 13:35:00 -
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First you have to pay 500 Mio. to a designated recruiter, then you are offerd to contract your...
um...wait that was something else I think |

Rengerel en Distel
Amarr Science and Industry
452
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Posted - 2012.10.09 14:00:00 -
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Christy D Floyd wrote:Simple question How does one either apply or is selected to become an ISD?
I'd guess not being able to read the stickies before posting would automatically rule you out.
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Alice Saki
9373
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Posted - 2012.10.09 14:05:00 -
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Chribba wrote:Pak Narhoo wrote:http://community.eveonline.com/isd.asp At least this first response wasn't a troll. We need more of these threads. /c
Lies! Scottish Interweb Spaceshippy Person, Very Easily Confused. I like to show my Love by Smashing people in the face with a big Hammer.
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Gillia Winddancer
Shiny Noble Crown Services
96
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Posted - 2012.10.09 14:32:00 -
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ISD Suvetar wrote:Chribba wrote:Pak Narhoo wrote:http://community.eveonline.com/isd.asp At least this first response wasn't a troll. We need more of these threads. /c Choose a department you're interested in and just be honest!
I thought that honesty went against all that is EVE or am I wrong? |

Aedh Phelan
Krannon of Sherwood Carthage Empires
7
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Posted - 2012.10.09 14:39:00 -
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Chribba wrote:Pak Narhoo wrote:http://community.eveonline.com/isd.asp At least this first response wasn't a troll. We need more of these threads. /c
I was in the same station as Chribba once. But I couldn't get the stupid door open to go find him and ask for his autograph.  |

oldbutfeelingyoung
Perkone Caldari State
703
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Posted - 2012.10.09 15:06:00 -
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Aedh Phelan wrote:Chribba wrote:Pak Narhoo wrote:http://community.eveonline.com/isd.asp At least this first response wasn't a troll. We need more of these threads. /c I was in the same station as Chribba once. But I couldn't get the stupid door open to go find him and ask for his autograph. 
Be carefull next time ,CCP changed the door into an Airlock If Dust has social areas ,then vanishing the blog is not an CCP decision ,but an all exclusive Sony decision |

Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
153
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Posted - 2012.10.09 16:17:00 -
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To become an ISD, you must have a troll level over 9000. |

oldbutfeelingyoung
Perkone Caldari State
704
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Posted - 2012.10.09 16:22:00 -
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Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:To become an ISD, you must have a troll level over 9000.
can,t find the skillbooks on EvE market If Dust has social areas ,then vanishing the blog is not an CCP decision ,but an all exclusive Sony decision |

Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
154
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Posted - 2012.10.09 17:16:00 -
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Its a power level, not a skill level thing. |

Ginger Barbarella
State War Academy Caldari State
165
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Posted - 2012.10.09 17:25:00 -
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I signed up to become a BugHunter last year... after all the requisite forms of ID, copy of drivers license, etc, I LITERALLY spent several hours a day for nearly three weeks waiting in the IRC channel to speak to someone about my application. Gave up on it. Hope ISD works better than BugHunters recruiting.
nb4 "your post was deleted due to violation of Forum rules" |

Nanatoa
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
16
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Posted - 2012.10.09 19:23:00 -
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Ginger Barbarella wrote:I LITERALLY spent several hours a day for nearly three weeks waiting in the IRC channel to speak to someone about my application. Gave up on it.
That was a test of your assertiveness. You failed.
It is never too late to turn from the errors of your ways: He who repents of his sins is almost innocent.
MinerBumping.com |

Graic Gabtar
The Lemon Party
396
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Posted - 2012.10.09 19:51:00 -
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ISD Suvetar wrote:...have a passion for the community... What a curious turn of phrase.
"passion" huh?
WARNING: The current poster is erratic, prone to error and generally blissfully unaware due to the taking of many hard drugs over the course of many years - most of them legal. |

Surfin's PlunderBunny
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
2655
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Posted - 2012.10.09 19:58:00 -
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Maybe I should apply for ISD, I can be on the troll hunting squad  "A genius throws a Molotov cocktail and soon realizes that he's going to die choking in a maze of smoke and flame. A hero drinks a Molotov cocktail and soon realizes that if he does a split in midair, he can hit twice as many zombies per kick. Drunk hero wins again, wusses." ~Cracked.com |
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ISD Eshtir
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
183

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Posted - 2012.10.09 19:59:00 -
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Surfin's PlunderBunny wrote:Maybe I should apply for ISD, I can be on the troll hunting squad 
Go on!  ISD Eshtir Vice Admiral Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department |
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Marlona Sky
D00M. Northern Coalition.
1403
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Posted - 2012.10.09 20:06:00 -
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oldbutfeelingyoung wrote:Aedh Phelan wrote:Chribba wrote:Pak Narhoo wrote:http://community.eveonline.com/isd.asp At least this first response wasn't a troll. We need more of these threads. /c I was in the same station as Chribba once. But I couldn't get the stupid door open to go find him and ask for his autograph.  Be carefull next time ,CCP changed the door into an Airlock Would still be far more content than we have in incarna right now tbh.
Remove local, structure mails and revamp the directional scanner! |

Surfin's PlunderBunny
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
2655
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Posted - 2012.10.09 20:07:00 -
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ISD Eshtir wrote:Surfin's PlunderBunny wrote:Maybe I should apply for ISD, I can be on the troll hunting squad  Go on! 
I mean it! I'll do it! "A genius throws a Molotov cocktail and soon realizes that he's going to die choking in a maze of smoke and flame. A hero drinks a Molotov cocktail and soon realizes that if he does a split in midair, he can hit twice as many zombies per kick. Drunk hero wins again, wusses." ~Cracked.com |
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ISD Eshtir
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
183

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Posted - 2012.10.09 20:09:00 -
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Surfin's PlunderBunny wrote:ISD Eshtir wrote:Surfin's PlunderBunny wrote:Maybe I should apply for ISD, I can be on the troll hunting squad  Go on!  I mean it! I'll do it!
If you want a date, just ask! You know troll hunting is serious space business. ISD Eshtir Vice Admiral Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department |
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Surfin's PlunderBunny
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
2655
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Posted - 2012.10.09 20:10:00 -
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ISD Eshtir wrote:Surfin's PlunderBunny wrote:ISD Eshtir wrote:Surfin's PlunderBunny wrote:Maybe I should apply for ISD, I can be on the troll hunting squad  Go on!  I mean it! I'll do it! If you want a date, just ask!  You know troll hunting is serious space business.
I know, evading Navigator was fun but he's getting slow in his old age  "A genius throws a Molotov cocktail and soon realizes that he's going to die choking in a maze of smoke and flame. A hero drinks a Molotov cocktail and soon realizes that if he does a split in midair, he can hit twice as many zombies per kick. Drunk hero wins again, wusses." ~Cracked.com |

Beat General
Painkiller.
57
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Posted - 2012.10.09 20:12:00 -
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Step 1, suck a lot of ****.
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ISD Suvetar
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
257

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Posted - 2012.10.09 20:13:00 -
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Graic Gabtar wrote:ISD Suvetar wrote:...have a passion for the community... What a curious turn of phrase. "passion" huh?
Absolutely - it's a word I don't like to throw around lightly.
I've been around this community since 2003 as a player, 2005 as a member of ISD. In that time I've had various real-life traumas and quite a few good times too.
But throughout it all, thick and thing, this community has kept me uplifted, amazed, surprised and sometimes in genuine awe of the human spirit.
Passion. I haz it. ISD Suvetar Captain Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department |
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ISD Suvetar
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
258

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Posted - 2012.10.09 20:16:00 -
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Surfin's PlunderBunny wrote:ISD Eshtir wrote:Surfin's PlunderBunny wrote:ISD Eshtir wrote:Surfin's PlunderBunny wrote:Maybe I should apply for ISD, I can be on the troll hunting squad  Go on!  I mean it! I'll do it! If you want a date, just ask!  You know troll hunting is serious space business. I know, evading Navigator was fun but he's getting slow in his old age 
http://i.chzbgr.com/completestore/2008/2/18/doeeet128478362244531250.jpg ISD Suvetar Captain Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department |
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ISD Eshtir
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
184

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Posted - 2012.10.09 20:17:00 -
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Surfin's PlunderBunny wrote:ISD Eshtir wrote:Surfin's PlunderBunny wrote:ISD Eshtir wrote:Surfin's PlunderBunny wrote:Maybe I should apply for ISD, I can be on the troll hunting squad  Go on!  I mean it! I'll do it! If you want a date, just ask!  You know troll hunting is serious space business. I know, evading Navigator was fun but he's getting slow in his old age 
Wohowowow,
shhhh, Navigator has eyes and ears everywhere.
http://community.eveonline.com/isd.asp I know you prefer clickable links, SPB.  ISD Eshtir Vice Admiral Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department |
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Beat General
Painkiller.
57
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Posted - 2012.10.09 20:17:00 -
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ISD Suvetar wrote: But throughout it all, thick and thing, this community has kept me uplifted, amazed, surprised and sometimes in genuine awe of the human spirit.
THIS community?
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Surfin's PlunderBunny
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
2655
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Posted - 2012.10.09 20:21:00 -
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I think the statute of limitations for just being a **** are over so me and navigator should be cool now 
I like the clickable link and I will send in an app... remember my name is Rusty Shackleford and I've never been forumbanned for any reason "A genius throws a Molotov cocktail and soon realizes that he's going to die choking in a maze of smoke and flame. A hero drinks a Molotov cocktail and soon realizes that if he does a split in midair, he can hit twice as many zombies per kick. Drunk hero wins again, wusses." ~Cracked.com |

Sarmea Moon
Universal Freelance CONSORTIUM UNIVERSALIS
41
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Posted - 2012.10.09 20:21:00 -
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Beat General wrote:Step 1, suck a lot of ****.
'roids? |
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ISD Eshtir
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
184

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Posted - 2012.10.09 20:22:00 -
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Surfin's PlunderBunny wrote:I think the statute of limitations for just being a **** are over so me and navigator should be cool now  I like the clickable link and I will send in an app... remember my name is Rusty Shackleford and I've never been forumbanned for any reason
Sure thing, Rusty! ISD Eshtir Vice Admiral Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department |
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ISD TYPE40
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
1557

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Posted - 2012.10.09 20:24:00 -
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As with Suvetar I've been around a long time as a player and I too have seen my fair share of uplifting awesomeness come from this family of ours. I say family because for many people that is what EVE has become, and I could not imagine a better place to spend what little free time I have these days.  ISD Type40 Lt. Commander Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department |
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Surfin's PlunderBunny
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
2655
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Posted - 2012.10.09 20:32:00 -
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Halp! I sent in an application 
"A genius throws a Molotov cocktail and soon realizes that he's going to die choking in a maze of smoke and flame. A hero drinks a Molotov cocktail and soon realizes that if he does a split in midair, he can hit twice as many zombies per kick. Drunk hero wins again, wusses." ~Cracked.com |

Methesda
Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic
41
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Posted - 2012.10.09 22:18:00 -
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To be fair, I'm not exactly a hardcore player although I've been playing on and off since the start..
But to be honest, I could never associate myself with that organisation. They don't do a good job in my opinion. I've seen far too many witty posts locked because of a lack of either reading ability or intelligence, frankly.
One could argue that the way to fix something is to contribute, but I've got other responsiblities. Eve is about the journey.-á If you are so focused on making money, that you insist on having the tools to make it be made as autonomous and easy as possible, then you are never going to have as much fun as I will.
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Corpse Bride
The Justified Ancients of Mu-Mu
26
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Posted - 2012.10.09 22:32:00 -
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You know this isn't Reddit or 4chan don't you ? This isn't a public forum, you have to be a subscriber to use is, and it's a forum about a spaceship game.
A post might be 'Witty' but it doesn't mean it's on topic or even allowed.
The alternative viewpoint might be:
methesda wrote: But to be honest, I could never associate myself with that community. They don't do a good job in my opinion. I've seen far too many terrible posts locked because of a lack of being able to read the forum rules first.
Someone said earlier that if people could only just start being constructive instead of trying to find way to work around the rules, this place would be a lot better. |
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ISD AeolusWind
ISD STAR
0

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Posted - 2012.10.09 22:43:00 -
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Greetings! AeolusWin(d) here, one of the captains of the ISD:STAR volunteer department. I figured this was a good time to point out that ISD is not just forum moderators. ISD Is an umbrella term covering a variety of different volunteer corporations. STAR is the Support, Training and Resources division of ISD. There are also the Forum mods, Bug Hunters, Wiki Editors and News Writers (I think that's all of them).
In STAR, we are responsible for welcoming new players to the game in the form of Meet and Greets as well as Moderating the In Game help channels. We have recently expanded our duties to seminars and show up in high security systems once and a while to say hello.
If you aren't the forum moderating type, but love the game and want to help new players (And have at least 6 months EVE experience) consider giving us a look! |
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Xercodo
Disturbed Friends Of Diazepam Disturbed Acquaintance
1360
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Posted - 2012.10.09 23:14:00 -
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Jonah Gravenstein wrote:Tippia wrote:Grow roughly 100,000% larger, install six squadrons of TIE fighters, enough ground forces to land and man an entire garrison, and roughly a bajillion turbo lasers and ion cannons. Millenium Falcon > ISD simply because it can turn distance into time
It fails so hard here D:
I'm not even a super Star Wars nut and I know the proper meaning behind this.
Han Solo wasn't being a dumbass mixing time and distance, his point was that he shortened the Kessel Run route. He was able to pass through a dangerous nebula or roid belt or something that everyone else flew around for that route. The Drake is a Lie |

Eugene Kerner
TunDraGon
157
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Posted - 2012.10.10 06:30:00 -
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Surfin's PlunderBunny wrote:Halp! I sent in an application  lol...glorious times ahead |

Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
9816
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Posted - 2012.10.10 06:47:00 -
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Xercodo wrote:I'm not even a super Star Wars nut and I know the proper meaning behind this.
Han Solo wasn't being a dumbass mixing time and distance, his point was that he shortened the Kessel Run route. He was able to pass through a dangerous nebula or roid belt or something that everyone else flew around for that route. GǪand proper Star Wars nuts know how much of a retcon that is. 
And anyway, this leading to this is a much better explanation. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: newbie skill plan.
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Gibbo3771
AQUILA INC Verge of Collapse
247
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Posted - 2012.10.10 10:41:00 -
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By the looks of it any ******** gigolo with a resume in shoveling shite from A to B can get it. Everytime you dont like my comments/posts the terrorists win and your a disgrace to your country. |

Ginger Barbarella
State War Academy Caldari State
170
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Posted - 2012.10.10 16:47:00 -
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Nanatoa wrote:Ginger Barbarella wrote:I LITERALLY spent several hours a day for nearly three weeks waiting in the IRC channel to speak to someone about my application. Gave up on it. That was a test of your assertiveness. You failed.
It was an expression of correct grammar usage to emphasize what I did. I really did spent hours a day sitting in IRC chat waiting for CCP.
Perhaps you should go back to school. |

Brooks Puuntai
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
864
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Posted - 2012.10.10 16:52:00 -
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I would do the whole ISD thing, but I fear I would snap on some people, which wouldn't end well. Plus I would have to fill out a form, which requires effort. |
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ISD TYPE40
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
1632

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Posted - 2012.10.10 17:29:00 -
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Had to remove a very derogatory remark, this also removed subsequent replies to said remark. Please post sensibly in future, thank you - ISD Type40. ISD Type40 Lt. Commander Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department |
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MinefieldS
1 Sick Duck Standss on something
147
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Posted - 2012.10.10 17:47:00 -
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ISD TYPE40 wrote:Had to remove a very derogatory remark, this also removed subsequent replies to said remark. Please post sensibly in future, thank you  - ISD Type40. Dear forum readers, you can view this very thread, uncensored, here http://eve-search.com/thread/161523-1/page/2 |

Pingu Arareb
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2012.10.10 18:07:00 -
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if i become isd, will i get new ships and can sell them to others? |
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ISD Eshtir
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
186

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Posted - 2012.10.10 18:14:00 -
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Pingu Arareb wrote:if i become isd, will i get new ships and can sell them to others?
Nope ISD Eshtir Vice Admiral Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department |
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MailDeadDrop
Rage and Terror Against ALL Authorities
84
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Posted - 2012.10.16 04:42:00 -
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Christy D Floyd wrote:Simple question How does one either apply or is selected to become an ISD?
Rengerel en Distel wrote:I'd guess not being able to read the stickies before posting would automatically rule you out. Ouch! That's gonna leave a mark.
MDD |

MailDeadDrop
Rage and Terror Against ALL Authorities
84
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Posted - 2012.10.16 04:44:00 -
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Surfin's PlunderBunny wrote:Maybe I should apply for ISD, I can be on the troll hunting squad  Conflict of interest detected; application denied. 
MDD |

Webvan
State War Academy Caldari State
96
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Posted - 2012.10.16 05:09:00 -
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Christy D Floyd wrote:Simple question How does one either apply or is selected to become an ISD?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bo9riZYUpTw
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Amber Accelerando
One Point 0
1
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Posted - 2012.10.16 07:18:00 -
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OP, do you have a desire to become the epitome of an insufferable prick bureaucrat? Are you corruptible, incorrigible & unscrupulous? Do you distrust people & or dislike most people? Does the idea of having some power & abusing it for all it's worth excite you, possibly sexually? Are you Manipulative? Do you Lie a lot? Do you lack remorse, shame or guilt? Do you have an incapacity for love? Are you callous & lack empathy? Do you have an impulsive nature?
I'd suggest the above 'qualities' would stand you in good stead. San Severina- banned for life. III ZiggyBang- banned for 2 weeks. Why not ban the whole account CCP? You really think I'll fall into line? |

F'elch
Wall Street Trading
22
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Posted - 2012.10.16 11:10:00 -
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On a related note, does anyone know how I can join the **** party? |

Becka Goldbeck
18
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Posted - 2012.10.16 11:17:00 -
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ISD Suvetar wrote:Graic Gabtar wrote:ISD Suvetar wrote:...have a passion for the community... What a curious turn of phrase. "passion" huh? Absolutely - it's a word I don't like to throw around lightly. I've been around this community since 2003 as a player, 2005 as a member of ISD. In that time I've had various real-life traumas and quite a few good times too. But throughout it all, thick and thin, this community has kept me uplifted, amazed, surprised and sometimes in genuine awe of the human spirit. Passion. I haz it.
It surprises me that you seem so eager to squelch free expression if that's the case. A sandbox functions better if it has a set of defined rules, that's true, but on the forums of all places people like you apply the most rigid definition of "trolling"
OP, you need to have a certain amount of cognitive dissonance apparently and be willing to abandon principles for the sake of your ego.
Amber Accelerando wrote:*snip*
Removed your unfriendly post! ISD Dosnix
Are you kidding me? |

Webvan
State War Academy Caldari State
96
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Posted - 2012.10.16 11:30:00 -
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Becka Goldbeck wrote:Amber Accelerando wrote:*snip*
Removed your unfriendly post! ISD Dosnix Are you kidding me? Darling, don't you monkey with the monkey Monkey, monkey, monkey Don't you know you're going to shock the monkey shock the monkey Monkey, monkey, monkey shock the monkey
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ctx2007
Wychwood and Wells Beer needs you
160
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Posted - 2012.10.16 13:06:00 -
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You need to have thick skin for the insults (that are not necessary) that are thrown at you. |
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CCP Gargant
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2012.10.16 13:36:00 -
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Becka Goldbeck wrote:It surprises me that you seem so eager to squelch free expression if that's the case. A sandbox functions better if it has a set of defined rules, that's true, but on the forums of all places people like you apply the most rigid definition of "trolling" OP, you need to have a certain amount of cognitive dissonance apparently and be willing to abandon principles for the sake of your ego. Amber Accelerando wrote:*snip*
Removed your unfriendly post! ISD Dosnix Are you kidding me?
This isn't a sandbox. It is a discussion forum. We don't take kindly to trolling as it derails threads, sometimes to the point that we can't really get it back on track, so we need to lock it. That in turn creates threads that accuse us of "squelching free expression" that get locked as they violate the rules. This is a vicious circle that is not easily broken.
We are trying, though. I am trying. I ask that you guys try as well and the first step in that trying is to stop berating the ISD's like they are some sort of pinata that you can vent frustrations on. The edit message from Amber you quote is one of them. If something regarding the ISD's appears on the forums, the posters that love to hound them descend into it like vultures to a carrion.
You have the right to post anything you want. If you do so within the rules there is no problem. Pissing and moaning about the volunteer moderators will not be tolerated anymore. There is now an official place to discuss moderation and all of us in the Community Team are watching it. Don't bash, constructively criticize. I believe these posters can so I don't understand why it doesn't happen. CCP Gargant | Community Representative |
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Becka Goldbeck
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Posted - 2012.10.16 14:06:00 -
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CCP Gargant wrote:[quote=Becka Goldbeck] This isn't a sandbox. It is a discussion forum. We don't take kindly to trolling as it derails threads, sometimes to the point that we can't really get it back on track, so we need to lock it. That in turn creates threads that accuse us of "squelching free expression" that get locked as they violate the rules. This is a vicious circle that is not easily broken.
We are trying, though. I am trying. I ask that you guys try as well and the first step in that trying is to stop berating the ISD's like they are some sort of pinata that you can vent frustrations on. The edit message from Amber you quote is one of them. If something regarding the ISD's appears on the forums, the posters that love to hound them descend into it like vultures to a carrion.
You have the right to post anything you want. If you do so within the rules there is no problem. Pissing and moaning about the volunteer moderators will not be tolerated anymore. There is now an official place to discuss moderation and all of us in the Community Team are watching it. Don't bash, constructively criticize. I believe these posters can so I don't understand why it doesn't happen.
I never claimed the forums were a sandbox unto itself but as part of the EVE universe, the ISD was espousing that he or she is a passionate veteran of EVE and EVE is a sandbox. A forum is a medium where ideas and views on a particular issue can be exchanged, where the community comes together outside of the game. This includes ideas which you don't agree with or rub you the wrong way. That is what a forum is supposed to be, you can have yours be about whatever you want (I never claimed you can't).
For instance I'm of the opinion that the laziness of CCP staff lead to this outsourcing and it's ill-advised.
Is this opinion wrong? Maybe. Are you offended by it? Maybe, if you're easily offended by random opinions (which is a distinct possibility considering).
What I'm concerned about it why you think I shouldn't be able to express it.
There are many ways to interpret "trolling" and it seems like CCP and the ISDs have determined it means anything that they don't agree with... or isn't "friendly" enough. |

JC Anderson
Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group
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Posted - 2012.10.16 14:08:00 -
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Chribba wrote:Pak Narhoo wrote:http://community.eveonline.com/isd.asp At least this first response wasn't a troll. We need more of these threads. /c
No we don't.
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Vimsy Vortis
Shoulda Checked Local Break-A-Wish Foundation
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Posted - 2012.10.16 14:18:00 -
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I was under the impression that once your level of egotism and self importance passes a certain point CCP automatically contact you about it. |
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CCP Gargant
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2012.10.16 16:47:00 -
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Becka Goldbeck wrote: I never claimed the forums were a sandbox unto itself but as part of the EVE universe, the ISD was espousing that he or she is a passionate veteran of EVE and EVE is a sandbox. A forum is a medium where ideas and views on a particular issue can be exchanged, where the community comes together outside of the game. This includes ideas which you don't agree with or rub you the wrong way. That is what a forum is supposed to be, you can have yours be about whatever you want (I never claimed you can't).
For instance I'm of the opinion that the laziness of CCP staff lead to this outsourcing and it's ill-advised.
Is this opinion wrong? Maybe. Are you offended by it? Maybe, if you're easily offended by random opinions (which is a distinct possibility considering).
What I'm concerned about it why you think I shouldn't be able to express it.
There are many ways to interpret "trolling" and it seems like CCP and the ISDs have determined it means anything that they don't agree with... or isn't "friendly" enough.
This is precisely the kind of input we want into the discussion thread I started about our moderation techniques. Instead of telling you to go there with this information, I will attempt to answer your observations here. I still ask that you direct further criticism to the moderation thread, here:
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=163320
Now. There are rules that forbid speaking falsities and slandering employees of CCP and the ISD members. We remove false statements that sometimes pop up, one of those being that we are too lazy to do our job. That is your opinion, yes, but you will need to go to other sites to discuss that statement as it is false and we don't tolerate false statements here. That has nothing to do with sensitivity. I am asking for your opinions and that includes ones that might be perceived as negative.
And regarding the trolling. Our forum rules define trolling as "a post that is deliberately designed for the purpose of angering and insulting the players. " I myself am not in the habit of removing threads that I don't agree with. I hope to spread that outlook to the rest of the team. To be absolutely clear, I do not know about anyone on the team that thinks it is okay to delete something just because it is on an opposite place in the spectrum of opinions. CCP Gargant | Community Representative |
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Dinsdale Pirannha
Pirannha Corp
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Posted - 2012.10.16 17:10:00 -
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CCP Gargant wrote:[quote=Becka Goldbeck]
And regarding the trolling. Our forum rules define trolling as "a post that is deliberately designed for the purpose of angering and insulting the players. " I myself am not in the habit of removing threads that I don't agree with. I hope to spread that outlook to the rest of the team. To be absolutely clear, I do not know about anyone on the team that thinks it is okay to delete something just because it is on an opposite place in the spectrum of opinions.
Are you for real???? "Angering or insulting the players?"
Based on that criteria, why are goons and their ilk allowed to post calling high sec players "pubbies", or some other equivalent slur? Heck, the sole intent of probably a third of the posts on the forums is to anger and demean other players.
If you are truly standing by the definition of trolling you just posted, then it must mean one of 2 things:
1. You guys are incompetent at your jobs since I can probably find 10 posts in 10 minutes that meet the criteria you laid down.
OR:
2. You selectively enforce that criteria to eliminate posts that don't match the personal views of the game held by the various members of the censorship team.
I would LOVE to see a true breakdown of what area of the game each of the members of the censorship team hails from. Of course, any statement of player background can be stated as fact, and no way to refute it, so such a breakdown becomes immediately worthless.
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Bane Necran
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Posted - 2012.10.16 17:26:00 -
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Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:Based on that criteria, why are goons and their ilk allowed to post calling high sec players "pubbies", or some other equivalent slur?
That's the least of what they do. Easily the most abrasive and abusive group of players here, but they're CCPs darlings. Therein lies the problem with this entire thing.
I wouldn't be surprised if the ISD sees all the goons mad at someone and decide the person they're mad at is the one who is causing trouble. Everything is so peaceful as long as everyone just agrees with the goons. "It's no use crying over spilt milk, because all the forces of the universe were bent on spilling it." ~William Maugham |

Dinsdale Pirannha
Pirannha Corp
348
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Posted - 2012.10.16 17:39:00 -
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Bane Necran wrote:Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:Based on that criteria, why are goons and their ilk allowed to post calling high sec players "pubbies", or some other equivalent slur? That's the least of what they do. Easily the most abrasive and abusive group of players here, but they're CCPs darlings. Therein lies the problem with this entire thing. I wouldn't be surprised if the ISD sees all the goons mad at someone and decide the person they're mad at is the one who is causing trouble. Everything is so peaceful as long as everyone just agrees with the goons.
Bingo. |
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