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F'elch
Wall Street Trading
4
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Posted - 2012.10.09 21:00:00 -
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Tyberius Franklin wrote:F'elch wrote:Tyberius Franklin wrote:F'elch wrote:If we're really lucky, it will become impossible for people to fund more than one account with PLEX.
Then we can reach the nirvana state of one account per player. That makes the erroneous assumption that no one subs multiple accounts with rel money. Yes, it does. But those people do not deserve our derision, but our sympathy. Why would you have sympathy for a person with an excess of disposable income?
Because they have chosen to spend it on Eve. |
Bagrat Skalski
Poseidaon
48
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Posted - 2012.10.09 21:17:00 -
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Quote:2. CCP needs to fix their **** up and help the new players not the ******* larger alliance who control the game and just cause they are the biggest alliances in the games doesnt mean they get the only voice in this game
That will not happen. It's against rules of sandbox EVE. Players must care for themselves. Or pay real monies.
About WIS |
Tyberius Franklin
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
323
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Posted - 2012.10.09 21:18:00 -
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To each their own, I'm not one to judge the hobbies of others, but it does seem odd for a player of this game to paint paying for it as a negative regardless of how they keep their accounts running. After all if you do manage to convince people you are right that just means fewer plex on the market. |
Mara Rinn
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
1907
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Posted - 2012.10.09 21:56:00 -
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lucious terrinous wrote:GǪ if im a noob and need to learn how to make money in eve then show me how to do it.
The Making ISK guide in the Evelopedia can help you there.
Day 0 advice for new players: Day 0 Advice for New Players |
RAGE QU1T
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
34
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Posted - 2012.10.09 22:00:00 -
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Those that want to affect change I would say take the fight to the market, Don't buy the friggin plex if you think its so inflated, your accounts run out of time??? So be it. Your game play gets interruped??? So be it, No enough Wife agro??? So be it.
Instead of whining on forums organize a boycott. Lessen the demand on the market for a few months, I will say this again and again buyers set the market, not CCP, not GM, not CSM and not even Soundwave "B U Y E R S" do. |
BoBoZoBo
MGroup9
Quantum Cafe
104
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Posted - 2012.10.09 22:00:00 -
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The Price.
Primary Test Subject GÇó SmackTalker Elite |
Bagrat Skalski
Poseidaon
48
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Posted - 2012.10.09 22:44:00 -
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Is high.
About WIS |
Nikolai Dostoyevski
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
62
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Posted - 2012.10.09 23:25:00 -
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Why should CCP do something about Plexflation? Higher valued plex = more people will buy it to sell it for ISK.
It's called supply and demand.
If you can't make enough ISK to plex your other accounts, then pay $$ for them. Or, if you make $8 an hour working at taco bell, then let those accounts lapse. |
Nikolai Dostoyevski
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
62
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Posted - 2012.10.09 23:26:00 -
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Miss Teardrop
Beyond Recognition
0
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Posted - 2012.10.09 23:58:00 -
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I am in the camp that says plex prices will continue to rise. Itleast until this tourney thing is settled. There is no reason to deflate as there is now a second group who will be interested in purchasing plex. This group has deeper pockets then the average player. |
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Jonni Favorite
Sundown Logistics
SpaceMonkey's Alliance
143
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Posted - 2012.10.10 01:05:00 -
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Do we really need 2 juggerthreads about this? Get a job or get busy isking it up |
SegaPhoenix
Phoenix Pharmaceuticals
36
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Posted - 2012.10.10 01:15:00 -
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This thread is full of LOL
CCP has nobody to blame but themselves for allowing these self entitled, bleating idiots into this game and then catering to them.
Bring back the days where we could filter these puke stains out at the rookie undock please. |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
1562
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Posted - 2012.10.10 01:39:00 -
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SegaPhoenix wrote:CCP has nobody to blame but themselves for allowing these self entitled, bleating idiots into this game and then catering to them.
Bring back the days where we could filter these puke stains out at the rookie undock please.
On the rookie undock?
No way.
Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd
Click for old school EVE Portraits: http://jadeconstantine.web44.net/Maison.htm |
Jack Miton
Aperture Harmonics
K162
634
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Posted - 2012.10.10 01:45:00 -
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People are richer now, can afford more expensive plex so the price goes up *shrug*
Not exactly rocket science. |
Seniae 0n3
8
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Posted - 2012.10.10 01:51:00 -
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Let's just say there is a limit I'm WILLING to pay for a game. Yes 1 account for 10 bucks a month ok I can live with that. Just, really guys EVE is'nt THAT special that you want to pay more than that a month.
It's an mmo ... unbalanced and buggy and definately not worth 150 bucks a year ... really 150 bucks a year I can buy 3 high end multiplayer games for that :).
I'm not going to buy and sell you PLEX for some lousy ingame currency and yes I will buy your PLEX i the price is right.
I do have to agree that EVE will lose a lot of the players because not everyone can or is willing to afford more than 10 bucks a month for another game. We do need those players. I dont want to be stuck between these (check former replies) up their butt corncob so called "elite" i got cash and 40 accounts ppl.
EVE is ... just another game ... another mmo ... unique in its kind ... in space ... wonderful and fun but hell not worth sleepless nights for some cash. |
Idris Helion
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
157
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Posted - 2012.10.10 02:36:00 -
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Mardrus wrote:You do realize that in some countries around the world $15 is a huge amount of money and you being rude as s**t about it shows how incapable you probably are of thinking past your own fat rich leisurely lifestyle I would guess.
If money's that tight, you shouldn't be pissing it away on a video game. That's the essential point. Spending money on EVE is a luxury. It's throwaway money. If you're playing EVE rather than buying food or heating your home or buying clothes for the kids, you need to seriously re-think your life.
Even playing for "free" by using PLEX is a fool's bargain, because you're simply spending time rather than money to play. You have to grind for ISK to buy PLEX, and for a lot of players, that can take awhile (especially since PLEX goes for like 600M ISK right now). All that time might be better spent in RL trying to find a better-paying job or learning new RL skills so you can get a better job.
Perspective. |
Erastus Kaan
The Scope
Gallente Federation
1
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Posted - 2012.10.10 02:54:00 -
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Seniae 0n3 wrote:Let's just say there is a limit I'm WILLING to pay for a game. Yes 1 account for 10 bucks a month ok I can live with that. Just, really guys EVE is'nt THAT special that you want to pay more than that a month.
It's an mmo ... unbalanced and buggy and definately not worth 150 bucks a year ... really 150 bucks a year I can buy 3 high end multiplayer games for that :).
I'm not going to buy and sell you PLEX for some lousy ingame currency and yes I will buy your PLEX i the price is right.
I do have to agree that EVE will lose a lot of the players because not everyone can or is willing to afford more than 10 bucks a month for another game. We do need those players. I dont want to be stuck between these (check former replies) up their butt corncob so called "elite" i got cash and 40 accounts ppl.
EVE is ... just another game ... another mmo ... unique in its kind ... in space ... wonderful and fun but hell not worth sleepless nights for some cash.
I think its easily worth 150k a month. All MMOs suffer from imbalance and bugs....Its the level of enjoyment you get from it that should ultimately determine its worth. Frankly I pay $150 a month for just cable and internets.....so 150 a year is not a stretch. |
Nambr1
Macabre Votum
Against ALL Authorities
8
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Posted - 2012.10.10 03:35:00 -
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If I remember good, incursions were reason for big plex price.
Now incursions are nerfed (ccp killed their own work, programmers dont care, they are getting money for what they do not for bad ideas), and plex price is bigger.
Ccp have no idea what they are doing. They failed on pressure from ppl that made lot of posts about inc isk income but they didnt see same ppl are running bots(anomalies) in 0.0. Dotlan shows all.
In this way, eve will loose ppl. |
Ioci
Bad Girl Posse
209
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Posted - 2012.10.10 03:43:00 -
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CCP Version: Buy 2 Plex, convert to Aurum = 7000 Aurum.
Player Version: Buy 2 Plex, sell for 1.2 billion, buy 22,000 Aurum in the form of tokens.
You really want CCP to regulate Plex?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cg-_HeVNYOk
Save Derpy! |
Taiwanistan
Wildly Inappropriate
Goonswarm Federation
269
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Posted - 2012.10.10 03:52:00 -
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lucious terrinous wrote:Sara Mars wrote:INB4L for being disscussed on another thread.
Its called a free market economy, Deal with it or get a better job. Burger King can only pay so much. Just because i cant afford to plex 3 accounts in rl does not mean i dont have a good job just other things that my money needs to go to first. but honestly if the prices of plex keeps going up eve online will lose players because they dont have the time or the rl money to play the game anymore.
Those lost players are scrubs anyways, no big loss.
wis is nothing but bunch of dudes dressing up emoting each other. |
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Cyprus Black
363
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Posted - 2012.10.10 04:43:00 -
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lucious terrinous wrote:i guess my question is why isnt ccp doing something about the huge inflation of plex? Make it at least a little easier for players of eve to plex thier accounts. Easy answer: No.
PLEX prices ingame are governed by supply and demand just like everything else ingame. This perceived "inflation of PLEX prices is quite simple to explain:
PLEX supply = Low
PLEX demand = High
When supply is low and demand is high, the price goes up.
When supply is high and demand is low, the price goes down.
If you like, I can fetch Big Bird to explain Supply and Demand to you in small words. That is, assuming the US Insane Political Party doesn't kill off Big Bird. They do loath education.
Too busy playing The Secret World.
EvE has gone stale and boring. |
Mars Theran
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
346
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Posted - 2012.10.10 05:25:00 -
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Plex will be down again by Christmas; have little doubt. The auctions for the tournament will close, the Plex market will stabilize, and speculation will lead to selling. The market will flood and supply will exceed demand at current prices, the the prices will drop and we'll be back down around 500 million within a month.
It'll never drop back down to 350 million again though; not so long as ships cost this much, which is directly reflective of mineral markets, and minerals selling high means more miners plexing alt accounts to mine more ISK. 500 million is where it has stabilized for now, with just a turn upwards in the market trend for a peak period.
I could be wrong, and there are other factors at play, but all the available means of ISK becoming widely available means more Alt accounts and more demand for PLEX which drives the prices up.
Add to that a huge number of PLEX going out of the market permanently for a Tournament Auction, (min. 640 at buy-in value, which is equivalent to 53 years of game time), and a recent loss of another 90 PLEX in a ship kill, and I'm sure more I haven't heard of, and you can pretty much figure it's going to have a major impact on the market.
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MinefieldS
1 Sick Duck Standss on something
147
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Posted - 2012.10.10 05:50:00 -
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Q: What's better than killmails?
A: Buying all the PLEXes and landing the final blow to someone's account. MWHAHAHAHA |
Barrogh Habalu
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
20
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Posted - 2012.10.10 06:56:00 -
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Can someone clarify one part of OP's logic for me.
"Accounts that are lasting on PLEX bought for ISK will unsub -> EVE is dying"
So, basically "customers" who pay jack to CCP unsubbing will somehow make CCP stop entire EVE endevour?
Okay, I see some merit in this thinking, but only indirectly.
I believe that PLEX price is high because some things in the game bring a lot of ISK into pockets of certain people (not speaking of faucets here, just some people getting filthy rich). They can buy PLEXes for current price. Others try to catch up and so go for FW and whatever else offer good income currently. Some of them could maybe buy some PLEXes from CCP instead, but it's arguable. So those hypotetical people who farm high-income activities instead of PLEXing in (errr... I know how strange this sounds) are only CCP's loss. It's not much.
If anything, it's not CCP's fault that faction goods are still priced high enough to make FW this profitable, same with ore and other things. They may do some work on balancing different ways of aquiring same NPC-seeded stuff (ISK faucets, LPs etc.) to fix effort/income ratios of thereof, but that's about it. Everything else follows player-run economical model, and current state of economics affects PLEX prices.
After all, PLEXes aren't that abundand to have its price stable and so it is easily affected by just a bunch of folks (those who can pay a lot for it in this particular case), which is exactly what we are looking at atm. It's only the fact that they are currently pretty expencive and somewhat hard to come by (IRL writes scenario) that keeps the price from starting to hop like mad. |
Josef Djugashvilis
673
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Posted - 2012.10.10 06:59:00 -
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What is up with the PLEX in Eve?
The price.
So many books, so little time. |
Barakkus
1767
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Posted - 2012.10.10 11:44:00 -
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People like this drive up the prices:
http://www.eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=14748095
lol
http://youtu.be/yytbDZrw1jc |
Kehro Urgus
Ab Obice Saevior
439
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Posted - 2012.10.10 11:46:00 -
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CCP alt is obvious.
I don't always troll, but when I do I do it on EVE Online forums.
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Ayn Randy
Dark Falcon Operations
20
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Posted - 2012.10.10 11:51:00 -
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Its called inflation. Every other ship/module/mineral/item in eve has risen in price since years ago. I remember last year when drakes/canes/myrms were only 25-30mil and battleships started at 50mil - 100mil.
People have more isk now than they did back then, and if you cant afford the PLEX then you need to figure out what your doing wrong because most people can afford them, and thats why the prices are the way they are. |
Renegade 41
Gigaverse
The Imperial Senate
4
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Posted - 2012.10.10 11:56:00 -
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Prices may go up as well as down . . . but mostly up . . . . . . 
what can you do . . . . were all in it together, expect the small number who have a quadrillion isk  |
Marcus Harikari
Guitar Players of EVE
96
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Posted - 2012.10.10 11:57:00 -
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LOL @ noobs who can't make PLEX money easy |
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