Though I wonder about one thing:

Don't these high PLEX prices encourage more high sec play as for grinding and mining? Isn't that contra to what CCP would like to see? Just wondering....

Except when everyone stops buying plex because they refuse, or can't afford, to pay that much for it. Then people start abandoning their alts and CCP loses money.

True but lack of demand will cause the prices go down pretty rapidly.

True but lack of demand will cause the prices go down pretty rapidly.

Yes, but will that be enough to make people want to dust off their inactive alts after they've become comfortable with using just one account again? I think the community would need some incentive, probably in the form of free game time (essentially countering the profits CCP have made from this current Plex boom).

This is all speculation though. I'm not an expert and I have no actual data. I'm sure CCP have spent many hours running the figures.

I have 1 account i pay real life money for and 2 i pay with for plex. i mean 627 million isk for a plex now i remember just a couple of years ago that plex was only 350 million a piece. So why are they so high now, the current price of plex is going to make it next to impossible for some players to make that much isk in a month. Some of the eve community love this game as do i but we do not have the real life funds to be able to pay for accounts.

i guess my question is why isnt ccp doing something about the huge inflation of plex? Make it at least a little easier for players of eve to plex thier accounts.

but honestly if the prices of plex keeps going up eve online will lose players because they dont have the time or the rl money to play the game anymore.

the maximum price in ISK someone is prepared to pay for it
the minimum price in ISK someone is prepared to sell it for
which part of these 2 values can CCP control ??

Plex prices are being affected by the rampant ISK farming in FW as has been stated. Look at the implant market for examples of conversion of FW LP. Also that half LP dealis being exploited as well. As soon as CCP nerfs the FW ISK faucet next issue, things will settle down a bit.

Unfortunately, it may take some time for things to settle down.

How so?

FW doesn't actually create much isk only LP. Only way to cash out is buying stuff off LP market which usually costs LP+ISK. So FW only moves isk around, it doesn't actually create any and it removes it.

Both of them. Only CCP can regulate the rate at which the economy becomes saturated with ISK. It takes players to generate the ISK, but they only generate it using the systems CCP have put in place for them. By having the power to tweak numbers, CCP have pretty much full control of the economy.

Yes I get all that, but the point is the exploit in FW allows for more LP/ISK transfers and that unusual amount of ISK generated from the exploited LP is partially part of the inflation in plex prices.

I know this from several people that are doing it. FW is generating way too much LP because of the exploit and everyone being honest knows this and that is why CCP is nerfing the LP exploit.

The amount of LP FW is producing shouldn't directly affect inflation or plex prices*. It only affects wealth distribution within New Eden, since someone needs to buy all those LP items. Overall however it doesn't inflate isk value which would lead to higher prices.


*This would imply that FW members aren't manipulating the plex market by hoarding plexes to inflate the price.

What the guy told me was there is an "exploit" GROSS GAME MECHANIC WORKING AS INTENDED in FW that allows people to essential orbit a beacon for 15 minutes kill nothing and collect LP. He says he has new FW alts that he does this with AFK. He then waits for some kind of system control 5 deal that allows you to purchase stuff for half the normal LP. 75% NORMAL LP COST AND 75% NORMAL ISK COST

They cannot control what value you, I or anyone else personally assign to an item.

plex prices are approaching 700m. this is going to make it verty very hard to have multiple accounts especially for people like myself who spend 150 dollars a month for our paid accounts and have more paid with plexes.

the issues its that i can't make enough money in my current play time to fund all my accounts with plex, so here is what i prapose.

1. increase level 4 mission isk payouts by 50%
2. increase incursion payouts by 50%
3. increase the buying price of minerals 200%

this will make plexes affordable again.
solved.


reposted ty isd 40 for poinitng out the problem

The amount of LP FW is producing shouldn't directly affect inflation or plex prices*

It affects the price of Plex because the LP farmers are using their profits to buy Plex.

Of course they can. By controlling the flow of ISK into the game and the methods people use to acquire that ISK, they can dictate the values people place on their ISK and therefore dictate the prices people are willing to buy and sell commodities.

If it takes the average high-sec mission runner 600 hours to generate 600m ISK, high-sec mission runners will not buy PLEX for 600m because it is not worth their ISK. At the same time, CCP could make mining yields much higher by tweaking numbers. They could flood the market with resources and drive down the prices of ships and modules so all the high-sec mission runners earning 1m ISK per hour could easily afford ships and modules. They still can't afford plex though.

On the opposite side of the coin, CCP could change missions to pay out roughly 600m ISK per hour. Then all mission runners will be happy to pay 600m ISK for Plex because it would be barely effort for them at all. At the same time they could reduce ore yields, forcing the prices of ships and modules to some absurd level.

I hope that helps you understand how CCP has the power to fully control the economy.