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MASSADEATH
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Posted - 2005.03.18 04:34:00 -
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Our corporation has been targeted by DDC for no valid reason. We are currretly KOS. A few days ago a member from VTIL corp attacked one of our members, we responded and hunted him down, he got away and destroyed one of our ships. DDC showed up almost instantly, and declared us KOS by thier member "MURPHY". He said he was tired of dealing with us. VTIL contacted DDC and told them that it was THIER pilot that fired first and started this issue. DDC has ignored this fact and left us on KOS. Today DDC blew me up and podded me, i fired no shots and did not target anyone.(kill report at bottom)
So what do we do now? I have asked help from a senior Xetic member, and hopefully they will respond with some suggestions. We have been a 100% peacefull corp to DDC, and have many freinds and allies in the region. WE DO NOT feel this blatent "thugery" is warrented, and does not show the smaller corps the proper way to conducted a large so far honerable corporation like DDC. I am asking for help and support to change this situation. So far our corp has restrained its aggression, and we have not fired a shot. This however cannot continue long under the oppression of DDC's policy towards us.
I don't think the escalation of this situation in the region will be benificial to Xetic, I think it will cascade into a downward spiral , as many smaller corps have simular feelings of oppression.
We ask to be in peace, and left alone, please advise what yuo think our course of action should be.
Thank You
Massadeath
2005.03.18 03:44:00
Victim: MASSADEATH
Corporation: United Outworlders Corporation
Destroyed Type: Incursus
Solar System: Y-MPWL
System Security Level: 0.0
Involved parties:
Name: Leonthoric (laid the final blow)
Security Status: 0.7
Corporation: Dirty Deeds Corp.
Ship Type: Blackbird
Weapon Type: Heavy Pulse Laser I
Name: DeathGrip
Security Status: 4.0
Corporation: Dirty Deeds Corp.
Ship Type: Prophecy
Weapon Type: Unknown
Name: Equinox II
Security Status: 1.0
Corporation: Dirty Deeds Corp.
Ship Type: Blackbird
Weapon Type: Unknown
Destroyed items:
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KSUDruid
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Posted - 2005.03.18 04:39:00 -
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Restrained your agression? You constantly belittle DDC and XF as well as all our Allies in the providence region. Your senior membership went and joined m0o after DDC told them to shut their mouth because they were mad (and got kicked a few hours later because they SUCKED). You've been off and on the KOS list for almost 2 months. We've given you ample time to get your act together and act like good neighbors in the region. You're nothing but trouble and we're sick of it.
Enough is Enough, you're now KOS and it's permanent this time. So either fight back, leave, or burn.
Have a Nice Day!
-Druid "Civis Ascendant"
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Hydroponica
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Posted - 2005.03.18 04:49:00 -
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That kinda sounds like whining to me....
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MASSADEATH
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Posted - 2005.03.18 04:54:00 -
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Some History, that DDC is fully aware of...
YES 80% of our vetran players left UO about 1 month ago, they wanted to do PvP. That left UO in a sad state, but we pulled the corp back together and have now recruited new members and are up and running again.
I cannot control what our former vetran players did to DDC when they left UO. In fact you knew of UO's desparate situation at the time and that we needed help since most of our vetran players left there was only a few of us newbies left at UO to keep things going. And instead what did DDC do? help us out knowing that we needed help? NO they put the last remaining newbies in UO KOS as well. Thanks big brother ally. When we needed your help the most you just let us hang in the wind.
Do we have pirates in our corp 100% no...
Do we hunt pirates in teh region...100% yes
Are we lawfull and respectfull..100% yes
Do we have lots of other corps who will say we are upstanding...100% yes...
as you can see the DDC statement below is indicative of DDC's attitude...
so i say again what can be done....
and if "fight leave or burn" is how you feel and think smaller corporations should be treated i guess thats the heart of why you are acting they way DDC is.
i cannot control your actions, but UO has controlled ours and i am proud of us.
further aggression against us will be responded by same... we do not want to fight you ..but if given no choice will employ all means to defend our small corporation against .....tyranny
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MASSADEATH
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Posted - 2005.03.18 04:57:00 -
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If the Xetic management say we are on our own with DDC, then we have to live with thier decision. I just want to make sure that they undestand the history, and the feelings of some of the smaller corps. We are just asking for help and guidance from them as we dont feel the actions against us are even closely warrented.
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KSUDruid
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Posted - 2005.03.18 05:04:00 -
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Edited by: KSUDruid on 18/03/2005 05:06:34
Cry a bit more. Our actions and our allies in the area show what we do and what we stand for. Because you guys are *****s and when the good guys get sick of putting up with you, you whine and cry, is nothing new. This isn't how we treat small corps, just how we treat morons such as yourself.
All you've done since your veteran players left is talk about how good you are and how great allies you are.. but you just pull the kind of crap like blockading systems and talking how bad-ass until we start shooting you.
Put yourself in our place. We've got eleven wars right now (yay!) you think we've got the time or patience to put up with a bunch of two-face nubs who can't decide what side they want to be on? puh-leez.
fight leave or burn, but for god sakes quit your whining. I've got way too many other posts tonight to read and smacktalk back in  .
-Druid "Civis Ascendant"
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Batar Fireheart
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Posted - 2005.03.18 05:09:00 -
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AMEN DRUID!!!
May your wallets be full of isk and your cannons blessed |
Specops
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Posted - 2005.03.18 05:09:00 -
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I have no idea what this is about but your not goona get a diplomatic reply to this thread. Your goona have to contact someone ingame though I do feel if DDC put you on their KOS list it was for good reason.
~Specops~ |
MASSADEATH
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Posted - 2005.03.18 05:18:00 -
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KSDRUID speaks of "blockading" systems....
the truth....
we were at our POS in RNF system, and the guy who attacked our corp member came into our system (the VTIL pilot) (RNF only has 1 gate into the system) so we all went after this pilot who attacked our guy. we went to the gate (5 of us in BS mostly) he was in a ceptor, we placed a deployable warp scambler and tried to shoot the VTIL pilot down....
conflict was over in 10min the VTIL pilot got a Book mark from "somewhere" and ran through our BS's and left.
and who is exactly in RNF you may ask that was being "blockaded" NO ONE.. that could not leave if they wanted to..in fact some other corps were sitting at the gate watching us try to catch this ceptor as it flew around.
now the funny thing is..who was being blockaded? the guy who we were trying to kill? well i think thats kinda the point no?
in RNF there really is hardly anyone...and since it only has 1 entrance..what exactly is being blocked? the system goes NOWHERE
please try and explain that to me...
you can see why we are feeling oppressed here...these comments and statements make no sense from DDC, and on top of it, this issue started with a corp that is NOT EVEN DDC?
explain how that makes sense?
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Lansfear
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Posted - 2005.03.18 05:19:00 -
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I don't want to shoot UO..... 
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KSUDruid
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Posted - 2005.03.18 05:21:00 -
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I'll put it in the simplest form possible for you.
WE DON'T LIKE YOU! YOU'RE NOTHING BUT TROUBLE! THEREFORE WE'RE GOING TO KILL YOU.
Do I need to use some cryptic code to make you understand?
My god man, get it through your skull.
-Druid "Civis Ascendant"
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OffBeaT
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Posted - 2005.03.18 05:29:00 -
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DDC shots at anything that moves these days in prov.
thay are a stain on the good name of freedom and liberty for all in prov. XF,CoE,SA are the bigest extorters in the game of EvE.
i would say that its time for Change in prov.
liberty and respect for all in prov was once the way of these systems, a place where smaller empire corps could injoy some small fun in 00 without having too deal with extorting/bribing/bulling.
once again prov is in need of some crusaders too take up the call too end the tyranny of these dictatorships with their ToTalitarianism ways.
We My freinds are Living in times of Oppression, in Prov. 
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KSUDruid
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Posted - 2005.03.18 05:32:00 -
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Post with your main, so we can add your corp to the list too.
Tada!
-Druid "Civis Ascendant"
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Hobbsalong
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Posted - 2005.03.18 05:36:00 -
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Wardec Xetic and come join the party in empire. :)
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hylleX
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Posted - 2005.03.18 05:43:00 -
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 Originally by: KSUDruid
Your senior membership went and joined m0o after DDC told them to shut their mouth because they were mad (and got kicked a few hours later because they SUCKED).
Ha ha ha yea the almighty druid has spoken. Lets stay in wonderland, DDC made these members start a new corp 100% dedicated to PVP, it had nothing to do with being bored chasing ghosts as anti-pirates. Btw what do u even know about that short stay in m0o and why it was decided to leave? Further DDC is just a bunch of ignorant "hey lets c if we can make a blob bigger than yulai".
In addition im surprised DDC has just now decided to KOS UO and not when the actual members where still in UO. But whatever makes u happy.
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KSUDruid
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Posted - 2005.03.18 05:49:00 -
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Edited by: KSUDruid on 18/03/2005 05:50:44
Big words captain "safespot" hyllex. We shunned you guys cause all you did was talk smack on us, and so you started crying joined m0o, and were kicked (all of you) within 24 hours. You then went and started a new corp because the old UO wouldn't let you back, where you have proceeded to gank countless XF haulers and run at the first sign of anything that might resemble an actual fight. Hell I flew up to KBP in a freakin' bestower one time and you safespotted as soon as I was in local.
We've already had this flame war once, in another forum section here. Game over.
EDIT: PS, actually, it pains me alot to agree with a SPURM pilot, but you got a problem dec us like everyone else has. What's another 60 targets at this point. Wheeee!!
-Druid "Civis Ascendant"
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Murphy
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Posted - 2005.03.18 05:55:00 -
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w00t! more wars!!
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hylleX
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Posted - 2005.03.18 06:17:00 -
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Druid do u write fairytales as a profession or are u just really good at it? U r obviously bothered about us in some way since u have to spend time posting total nonsense. U ask ppl to declare war because what, because u dont have anything reasonable to say? Lets do us all a favour and stop posting i know i will thx.
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Malken
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Posted - 2005.03.18 06:30:00 -
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Originally by: hylleX
Druid do u write fairytales as a profession or are u just really good at it? U r obviously bothered about us in some way since u have to spend time posting total nonsense. U ask ppl to declare war because what, because u dont have anything reasonable to say? Lets do us all a favour and stop posting i know i will thx.
i dunno but you must be somewhat slow in comprehension 101.
this is what KSUdruis said....
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WE DON'T LIKE YOU! YOU'RE NOTHING BUT TROUBLE! THEREFORE WE'RE GOING TO KILL YOU.
best answer ever to ppl like you imo.
Originally by: Graelyn
"We're at war with you, and you FIRED on us! I am so telling CONCORD!"
Quote:
[18:46:36] Weebear > WTS Electric Golf Cart, 1 careful owner. Phone Rome 555 6567
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Tanakka
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Posted - 2005.03.18 06:36:00 -
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Your damn right we are whining. A crop of 40 some mostly newbs is KOS to a 220+ member corp. Were not going to run from a fight, were going to kick DDC in the shins and go down in flames if it comes to that.
But the whole thing is just frigging stupid. Eddie Hascal (sp?) has publicly admitted that he was agressing UOC "because he was bored" in the incident that has put us on DDC's KOS list.
Druid keeps running around talking about our evil ways. our blockades. our aggression.
Since our core players abandoned the corp 2 months ago we are a corp of newbs. Hell, as Druid has so condescendingly pointed out to me, I am a director and Ive only been in EVE 4 months. We have, I believe, 5 (FIVE!) Battleships. We cant blockade a bloody thing!!!!! If we are the aggressive ones, why is it our haulers getting ganked and our pilots having their pods blown?
But in the end, none of this matters. What matters is that Druid has never liked the UOC and is going to get his war. What, thats 10 wars by your count Druid?
-T
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KSUDruid
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Posted - 2005.03.18 06:50:00 -
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Originally by: Tanakka
Your damn right we are whining. A crop of 40 some mostly newbs is KOS to a 220+ member corp. Were not going to run from a fight, were going to kick DDC in the shins and go down in flames if it comes to that.
*snip*
But in the end, none of this matters. What matters is that Druid has never liked the UOC and is going to get his war. What, thats 10 wars by your count Druid?
Then shut up and get it over with already.
Everyone else in the area knows who we are and what we stand for. You guys are nothing but trouble, I just want you to shut the hell up already. It's your freaking mouth that managed to **** us off to begin with. And now you're talking more. Just dig yourselves a bigger hole, no one in DDC really cares, the consensus is the same. You're nothing but trouble, so we're going to kill you. Now shush already.
-Druid "Civis Ascendant"
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Righteous Fury
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Posted - 2005.03.18 06:50:00 -
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lollllllllllll
DDC being retarded? There's something new and unheard of.
Their arrogance is a direct response to their collective need to feel that they have the biggest e-***** in the region. I'll give them that they have one or two decent members, but overall their general attitude is pathetic. They accuse their enemies of hiding in safespots, when their idea of a fight is a 12v1 blob no more than 2 jumps from empire or their precious POS in Y-MPWL. They've even gone so far as to pirate in low-sec empire space, a claim which I'm sure they'll deny vehemently but it undoubtly remains the truth.
But hey, you should feel bad for them. What else is a sub-par pvp corp going to do for fun?
If they're honsestly too stupid to hold a grudge againt a corp thats leaders or problem members have left it, hey, its their perogative to be morons. Form a new corp, and don't let them bother you.
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KSUDruid
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Posted - 2005.03.18 07:01:00 -
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Originally by: Righteous Fury
DDC being retarded? There's something new and unheard of.
Dude you need a serious reality check. You happen to be in the same place at the same time as a couple of decent enemies of ours, gank a NPC hunter of ours, run like HELL when opposition shows up. Then claim how l337 you are? We tried war-deccing you guys for pirating in providence once. I killed two of your blackbird with a crow (at the same time) and NONE of your corporation even logged on until the war was retracted.
Go back to making crappy maps that actually get taken off of sticky (roflmao) because they're so biased and suck so bad. There's serious whining that is taking place here. You think you handle us, then bring it too. On second thought, you won't, so just keep making more flames. I'm just here cause it seems to be the thing to do tonight 
-Druid "Civis Ascendant"
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Leonthoric
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Posted - 2005.03.18 07:27:00 -
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We we're tracking war targets into providence, you followed us and died. What did you expect, a welcoming mat ? If you want to be friendly; next time you might want to send some kind of message before following people into open space.
Look at it through our perspective, we've got lord knows how many people at war with us and when we decide to engage one of our ennemies, suddenly a person appears, warps in, warps out, warps back in (you seem to neglect the fact that we DID NOT FIRE the first time you jumped in) without a single mention of why they are there.
There are only two factions of people in wars, friends and foes. You can do as you wish, fight whoever you want, but don't escalate a situation simply because we had to make a decision for you.
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Murphy
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Posted - 2005.03.18 07:42:00 -
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*****s me up how anytime our name is brought up in the forums all the people we've smacked around have to flame us.
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Katjia
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Posted - 2005.03.18 07:47:00 -
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well to the chap who was whining about being kos to a 220+ feel better if a 20-30 peep corp called you KOS...see corp info and you'll get your wish.
for those of you that like to smack take it in game.. i know i do.. and smack with your guns . more fighting = more fun.
ccp pls pimp the convoys again.....ie put things back in them. |
Ras Blumin
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Posted - 2005.03.18 07:51:00 -
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Originally by: KSUDruid
I'll put it in the simplest form possible for you.
WE DON'T LIKE YOU! YOU'RE NOTHING BUT TROUBLE! THEREFORE WE'RE GOING TO KILL YOU.
Do I need to use some cryptic code to make you understand?
My god man, get it through your skull.
Why don't you stop acting like a child, and give a proper reason for KOS'ing UO?
p - l - u - r |
Apocalypse2005
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Posted - 2005.03.18 07:56:00 -
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Lol, I see KSUDruid is as much a smacktard on these forums as he is in-game. One of our senior members joined the VTIL public chat to inform him of the impending war decleration (merc contract) we'll be bringing upon them, and KSUDruid soon after joined channel and started verbaly abusing us. 
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Malken
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Posted - 2005.03.18 07:56:00 -
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Originally by: Ras Blumin
Originally by: KSUDruid
I'll put it in the simplest form possible for you.
WE DON'T LIKE YOU! YOU'RE NOTHING BUT TROUBLE! THEREFORE WE'RE GOING TO KILL YOU.
Do I need to use some cryptic code to make you understand?
My god man, get it through your skull.
Why don't you stop acting like a child, and give a proper reason for KOS'ing UO?
looks like they did, they dont like them at all, cant be anymore straightforward then that.
Originally by: Graelyn
"We're at war with you, and you FIRED on us! I am so telling CONCORD!"
Quote:
[18:46:36] Weebear > WTS Electric Golf Cart, 1 careful owner. Phone Rome 555 6567
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Ras Blumin
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Posted - 2005.03.18 08:01:00 -
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Originally by: Malken
looks like they did, they dont like them at all, cant be anymore straightforward then that.
I don't like you at all. You are now KOS to me (and I won't tell you or anyone else why I don't like you).
p - l - u - r |
Malken
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Posted - 2005.03.18 08:07:00 -
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Originally by: Ras Blumin
Originally by: Malken
looks like they did, they dont like them at all, cant be anymore straightforward then that.
I don't like you at all. You are now KOS to me (and I won't tell you or anyone else why I don't like you).
haha fair enough, ill shoot you also then when i get the chance
Originally by: Graelyn
"We're at war with you, and you FIRED on us! I am so telling CONCORD!"
Quote:
[18:46:36] Weebear > WTS Electric Golf Cart, 1 careful owner. Phone Rome 555 6567
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Sochin
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Posted - 2005.03.18 08:27:00 -
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Edited by: Sochin on 18/03/2005 08:29:40
Originally by: hylleX
Originally by: KSUDruid
Your senior membership went and joined m0o after DDC told them to shut their mouth because they were mad (and got kicked a few hours later because they SUCKED).
Ha ha ha yea the almighty druid has spoken. Lets stay in wonderland, DDC made these members start a new corp 100% dedicated to PVP, it had nothing to do with being bored chasing ghosts as anti-pirates. Btw what do u even know about that short stay in m0o and why it was decided to leave? Further DDC is just a bunch of ignorant "hey lets c if we can make a blob bigger than yulai".
In addition im surprised DDC has just now decided to KOS UO and not when the actual members where still in UO. But whatever makes u happy.
To remove any confusion about the United Outworlders pilots who joined m0o, they were all kicked within a couple days for incompetence and other various reasons. None left willingingly, as Hyllex is insinuating here.
Nemo me impune lacessit
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Selena 001
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Posted - 2005.03.18 08:35:00 -
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It would Seem DDC are bored. Its the EvE story - Gankers get bored of waiting for targets, and either Declare War on small Corps, or wander into 0.3 and 0.4 to kill miners and NPCers . Its what they do for FUN, you see, so you'll just have to keep outta their way for a while. Even attempting to fight them will encourage them, so unless your EvE time is massively valuable, sit in a station and slag 'em off  .
/Me remembers the 'FatBalls' incident... my, wasn't that a barrel of laughs 
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*I only have 5 months left of 'knowing at all'... I had better put it to good use* |
Righteous Fury
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Posted - 2005.03.18 08:42:00 -
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Edited by: Righteous Fury on 18/03/2005 08:42:36
Originally by: KSUDruid
Originally by: Righteous Fury
DDC being retarded? There's something new and unheard of.
Dude you need a serious reality check. You happen to be in the same place at the same time as a couple of decent enemies of ours, gank a NPC hunter of ours, run like HELL when opposition shows up. Then claim how l337 you are? We tried war-deccing you guys for pirating in providence once. I killed two of your blackbird with a crow (at the same time) and NONE of your corporation even logged on until the war was retracted.
Same place at the same time? We work with them you simpleton. And get your facts straight, you lost three bships (arma/temp/raven) to a gang of frigates. Run like hell when opposition comes? If you think being blobbed by 20 battleships against our frigs is in some way decent odds, seek help. Its strange that you make grandiose yet false claims about us, considering we only lost ONE blackbird to DDC (the sole other DDC kill in that war was a Vexor Moon Sibyl lost in a 1v1 against Lataro). If we didnt log in at all, how did we manage all those kills against you? Your intel obviously sucks, stick to blobbing - at least you've shown you can do that decently.
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Ras Blumin
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Posted - 2005.03.18 09:35:00 -
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Originally by: Malken
haha fair enough, ill shoot you also then when i get the chance
p - l - u - r |
Avon
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Posted - 2005.03.18 09:43:00 -
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Is this the same XETIC alliance which is moaning about getting bullied in empire space?
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Never argue with idiots.
They will just drag it down to their level, and then beat you through experience. |
Rexy
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Posted - 2005.03.18 09:46:00 -
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Edited by: Rexy on 18/03/2005 09:46:46
ah the forums, the place to get things out of proportion, so lets clear a few things up
1. we're xetic _members_ (so the previous poster can see the difference), we dont need to war UO to get more targets, all of eve is after us anyway
2. you brought it down on yourself, we didn't start it nor can we end it, you agressed a member of vtil, and as such leave us no choice but to support vtil and attack the agressor. the fact that some pilot started first or not does not matter.
edit: Typoo's 
All i want for cristmas is a typhoon with launcher rof bonus :) |
KSUDruid
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Posted - 2005.03.18 09:53:00 -
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Edited by: KSUDruid on 18/03/2005 09:53:04
Originally by: Avon
Is this the same XETIC alliance which is moaning about getting bullied in empire space?
Forget what you see, they're all just in shock. We'll be ready come tomorrow. We're loving it, some of my alliance mates just don't know it yet
-Druid "Civis Ascendant"
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Dark Shikari
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Posted - 2005.03.18 10:16:00 -
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DDC must be very weak to be able to be "belittled" by a carebear corp of 40, eh?
--
The best description of alliances, ever:
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Rexthor Hammerfists
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Posted - 2005.03.18 10:43:00 -
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dont worry, ddc and their whole alliance has other probs atm
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ollobrains
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Posted - 2005.03.18 10:46:00 -
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What is needed here is to sign up non xetic corps in an short term alliance ?
Dunno perhaps this thread belongs over in the warfar and corp and alliance forum ?
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Trey Azagthoth
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Posted - 2005.03.18 10:55:00 -
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Its so freaking quiet up north where I am now. I love it. All I can say on this matter is UO, just learn to watch your backs from now on, make some friends, and if u must, leave the area.
Vin Diesel claims he has never hailed a taxi. He just runs up to them at stop lights, opens the door, shoves the current passenger over, and tells the cab driver what his new destination is. |
Murphy
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Posted - 2005.03.18 11:56:00 -
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UO is like a bad case of hemorrhoids (not the roids you mine)The only time you hear anything out of them is when they're flaring up and causing you problems. Like right now. The rest of the time you never hear a thing about them.
So no they're not our great allies that they've claimed to be and yes they're KOS cause we're tired of their nonsense.
If you're wondering what nonsense they have a plan to form an alliance in RNF and shut it down to only them. We told them a while back no and they backed down, and now they've got this big idea again. Just for some info RNF is located in Catch space which is claimed or a protectorate of stain or something. I'm sure Stain will be thrilled about that!
So we're tired of them and they're KOS, doesn't meant we're declaring war on them. Just means if we see them in 0.0 we will shoot them. If they stay out of our way and don't do their little alliance thingy they'll probably never hear a thing from us. We've got more important things to do. As for the other people in the area they've managed to tick off..
Like Trey said if you can't take it go somewhere else. It is 0.0 and 0.0 is not a nice place. Which that was a nice post Trey and an interesting sig that made me chuckle:)
I've stated the facts and this will no doubt be flamed to hell and back several times and then some. I've got nothing else to say so I'm putting on the flame resistant gear and going to bed.
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Mitawyn
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Posted - 2005.03.18 12:00:00 -
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Originally by: MASSADEATH
KSDRUID speaks of "blockading" systems....
the truth....
we were at our POS in RNF system, and the guy who attacked our corp member came into our system (the VTIL pilot) (RNF only has 1 gate into the system) so we all went after this pilot who attacked our guy. we went to the gate (5 of us in BS mostly) he was in a ceptor, we placed a deployable warp scambler and tried to shoot the VTIL pilot down....
conflict was over in 10min the VTIL pilot got a Book mark from "somewhere" and ran through our BS's and left.
and who is exactly in RNF you may ask that was being "blockaded" NO ONE.. that could not leave if they wanted to..in fact some other corps were sitting at the gate watching us try to catch this ceptor as it flew around.
now the funny thing is..who was being blockaded? the guy who we were trying to kill? well i think thats kinda the point no?
in RNF there really is hardly anyone...and since it only has 1 entrance..what exactly is being blocked? the system goes NOWHERE
please try and explain that to me...
you can see why we are feeling oppressed here...these comments and statements make no sense from DDC, and on top of it, this issue started with a corp that is NOT EVEN DDC?
explain how that makes sense?
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Massa, I was one of the "other member corps" sitting at the gate watching what you were doing. I don't know what transpired before to cause you all to go after the one loan member of the other corp. I wasn't there, I didn't see that, I know nothing of what passed word wise between you. But I did see a battleship blockade by you of the only gate into and out of RNF. And being that some of us are former DDC and Xetic members, the good people of DDC responded to that aggression to back up their friends who were present in DDC. The rest of us had no idea what you might or might not do towards us.
As for not many people being in RNF? That is a joke. The system is overrun with people and it is crowded, and mined out. Why do you think we are pulling our resources out of there?
You and your people have talked and are planning on shutting the system down. You are planning an alliance in there that all I can say about is good luck because you will need it. With my corp pulling out, who is going to tank your spawns and kill your npcs for you so you can mine? It won't be us.
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Posted - 2005.03.18 16:18:00 -
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so you were sitting at the gate watching too?
hmmm does that mean YOU were blockading the gate as well?
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Krapz
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Posted - 2005.03.18 17:12:00 -
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I read page 1, which is all that really needed to matter here.
If DDC KOS'ed you, it is simply your own fault. Think of DDC like the real "white knights" of the game. They only kill the bad guys, and make it a point to repay all damages done to neutrals and friendlies if accidently shot. They are the last real heroes of this game IMO, and make it a point to stand up for the "little guy" for just the principle of it. They seek no profit, this is simply what they do.
The kill ALL pirates when given the opportunity.
Basically, you must have really F'ed up to get on their list like this.
Maybe try moving to another region, or making a new corp. If that doesn't work, try finding the members that DDC holds responsible for the undermining of the operations they conduct over there, and remove those individuals.
IMO, there may be 40 of you, but if you have so much as thrown a rock in DDC's direction, expect to get a nuclear missile back in your direction. No tears, no sympathy, no remorse. Just apoogize and resolve it.
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olyyyyy
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Posted - 2005.03.18 17:26:00 -
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Seems like I don't forum w***e enough anymore 
This issue was adressed to XF diplomats yesterday. So XF diplomats will check what's happening.
Once again I see several of the enemies of the Federation have put the flaming suit for a thread which doesn't concern them.
Galaga (Galaxian - XIF corp) And yes, Olyyy is on our KOS list so she enjoys stirring the "flames" ( 2004.05.25 ) |
Trey Azagthoth
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Posted - 2005.03.18 17:33:00 -
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Thanks for the comment on my sig, hehehe, was bored and had the idea.
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MASSADEATH
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Posted - 2005.03.18 17:54:00 -
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well if thats how white knights act..i hate to see what black knights do...
we have not fired a shot against them yet... so i am not sure how "knightly" thier actions are picking on us...when not warrented.
if it comes down to fighting then I guess we have no choice...but I want it to be know we entered this situation trying to make peace, and were not the agressors. So if things get out of hand they know who to blame.... and it wont be us
Massadeath
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DeathGrip
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Posted - 2005.03.18 18:00:00 -
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Massadeath,
I was one of the people there yesterday at the time of this event. If you where so worried, why didnt you use jump out of the system. You used an Insta to the gate, we slowly attacked you, and you sat there and waited. Then you sat in your pod and waited. It took me 6 seconds to lock your pod, and then a little time for missle to hit you, so tell me again, why didn't you run??? You wanted this so you can Put DDC in the forums. I am a very fair person, I have respect for many people, including pirates, I am one of few that get along with Fury, and he has killed me before. So take your loss, and next time you see us, get a kill mail of your own.
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Mitawyn
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Posted - 2005.03.18 18:09:00 -
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Originally by: MASSADEATH
so you were sitting at the gate watching too?
hmmm does that mean YOU were blockading the gate as well?
Why would you ask such a stupid question? You know good and well my corp took no part in YOUR hostilities.
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Mitawyn
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Posted - 2005.03.18 18:13:00 -
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Originally by: MASSADEATH
well if thats how white knights act..i hate to see what black knights do...
we have not fired a shot against them yet... so i am not sure how "knightly" thier actions are picking on us...when not warrented.
if it comes down to fighting then I guess we have no choice...but I want it to be know we entered this situation trying to make peace, and were not the agressors. So if things get out of hand they know who to blame.... and it wont be us
Massadeath
Massadeath, why don't you tell all of Eve about all the name calling you and Liengod did to the people present, myself included. I notice you have very carefully left out 90% of what happened and what was said, and deliberately painted yourselves as victims. What would you be saying if all the details came out?
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Jakk Graiseach
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Posted - 2005.03.18 18:28:00 -
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Originally by: MASSADEATH
Our corporation has been targeted by DDC for no valid reason. We are currretly KOS.
It's part of EVE.
We're KoS to most of Pure Blind.
Don't whine - adapt or quit! 
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MASSADEATH
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Posted - 2005.03.18 19:15:00 -
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ohh i agree MITAWYN there was name calling against you by one of our members...cause you are a DDC spy and are the one who INSTIGATED this whole event...and a very rude obnoxious person to boot.
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Trey Azagthoth
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Posted - 2005.03.18 19:28:00 -
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Yeah, as I said before, if you cant stand the heat, get out of the fire 
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Mitawyn
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Posted - 2005.03.18 19:56:00 -
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Originally by: MASSADEATH
ohh i agree MITAWYN there was name calling against you by one of our members...cause you are a DDC spy and are the one who INSTIGATED this whole event...and a very rude obnoxious person to boot.
And you and Liengod aren't? ROFLOL Well, this is funny if it isn't anything else. A DDC spy. No, ex-DDC member. Get it right if you are going to get it at all. So now, you have decided I am to blame for all of this and not the pilot you were trying to kill? Whatever. You have a real knack for twisting and turning and dodging, I will give you that. As for rude and obnoxious, well, you and Liengod showed us all how to excel at that at the time of the "incident".
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Mitawyn
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Posted - 2005.03.18 19:59:00 -
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Originally by: MASSADEATH
ohh i agree MITAWYN there was name calling against you by one of our members...cause you are a DDC spy and are the one who INSTIGATED this whole event...and a very rude obnoxious person to boot.
One last thing, where is your leader Absolon and why has he been so silent and absent from all this? He never bothered to talk to any of the parties involved as far as I know, and I would think he would have something to say.
What was that thing he was so fond of saying? Diplomacy on all levels, no mistakes and do it all just right? I know your brand of diplomacy and Liengod's. It is called "gunboat diplomacy". How about it Absolon, anything to say?
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MASSADEATH
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Posted - 2005.03.18 20:01:00 -
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so MITAWYN,
you are telling me that after this incident, that involved VTIL corp (whose member did not call any support in)
DDC just "happend" to jump 25 jumps from ESA to a dead end system RNF ...by CHANCE?
no what happend is YOU told them of this fight..and they came.... thats what happend....
you called them there...you instigated this....you are an ex DDC member, and have disclosed your negativity towards us before this incident.
i have no doubts in my mind of this at all.
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Neslo
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Posted - 2005.03.18 20:27:00 -
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Edited by: Neslo on 18/03/2005 20:28:11
I've been a neighbor of the UO guys for a couple of weeks now. They haven't been anything but helpful hunting pirates & peacefully mining in the area. I was told about this incident by one of my members and instantly said "why did VTIL go and pick a fight with UO?" That was my first thought... Then I asked some of the VTIL guys that have joined my corp, who promptly did some investigating. Seems there is some bad blood between this one member and some UO guys. So he came and started and attacking UO guys in their home. Then (and varified by corporation mates) cried for assistance in the *Censored* Channel because he was under attack. DDC like always came to the assistance of one of the channels participants, which is admirable. This is really lame tactic on the ONE MEMBER from VTIL. It was a setup of UO. UO is lashing out here because they feel frustrated by something they can't control. When you have a supposed member of an anti-pirate corp pirating around RNF, you would be frustrated too.
This was an act of piracy on the ONE member of VTIL, nothing else.
1) Attack someone minding their own business.
2) Call for help from other "non-pirates" cuz you got attacked back when you tried to gank people.
3) Get a list of anti-pirates to consider a relatively peaceful corp KOS because some nitwit had a revenge streak and couldn't be bothered to ignore it to attack real enemies like any of the enemies in empire.
Four Horsemen, till proven otherwise can't support nor will enforce a KOS call on UO.
Neslo
From Ashes to Ashes... From Dust to Dust....
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Wakita
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Posted - 2005.03.18 20:34:00 -
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Quote:
"If you're wondering what nonsense they have a plan to form an alliance in RNF and shut it down to only them. We told them a while back no and they backed down, and now they've got this big idea again. Just for some info RNF is located in Catch space which is claimed or a protectorate of stain or something. I'm sure Stain will be thrilled about that!"
Im curious exactly what areas of space Xetic claims and do they invite free travel for law abiding podpilots? By this quote it seems you oppose closed space so what is your policy?
Wakita
Call of Freedom
We Shall be Free
Ronin of Matar alone on the path
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Neslo
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Posted - 2005.03.18 22:33:00 -
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Yeah, my post was made before discussing with Massadeath and seeing the other thread openly calling on forces to kill DDC. We are saddened by teh decision made, but understand why they are ****ed and most likely will end up being on opposite sides of the battlefield to their new allies.
GL UO, sorry to see ya be put in this situation.
Neslo
From Ashes to Ashes... From Dust to Dust....
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Jacques Archambault
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Posted - 2005.03.18 22:37:00 -
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Thread cleaned.
Please keep it friendly and constructive.
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Liet Traep
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Posted - 2005.03.18 22:51:00 -
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Originally by: MASSADEATH
If the Xetic management say we are on our own with DDC, then we have to live with thier decision. I just want to make sure that they undestand the history, and the feelings of some of the smaller corps. We are just asking for help and guidance from them as we dont feel the actions against us are even closely warrented.
Contact a Xetic diplomat if you have a problem. Flaming on open forums will get you no help. List of xetic diplomats can be found at www.xetic.org
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MASSADEATH
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Posted - 2005.03.18 23:29:00 -
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we have contacted them, and DDC is killing and podding us...
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Arkanis
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Posted - 2005.03.19 00:09:00 -
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Edited by: Arkanis on 19/03/2005 00:28:33
Edited by: Arkanis on 19/03/2005 00:27:19
Originally by: Wakita
Im curious exactly what areas of space Xetic claims and do they invite free travel for law abiding podpilots? By this quote it seems you oppose closed space so what is your policy?
There's an Xetic POS around RNF and scattered DDC patrols and POS around providence and the providence entrance to catch.
As far as I'm aware, Xetic and DDC only shoot people in Providence/Catch that they have at -10 or are openly hostile to them.
Originally by: KSUDruid
We tried war-deccing you guys for pirating in providence once. I killed two of your blackbird with a crow (at the same time) and NONE of your corporation even logged on until the war was retracted.
I'm sorry, but this is wrong and you're confusing us with somebody else.
DDC member Misinformed Soldier was running an alt corp war against while he was in the Elite corporation. Elite didn't do anything to stop it and Misinformed would stay in empire and when he was in 0.0 he would be in gangs with friends of ours, when he joined DDC he was more open and brash to us in local (this started due to his distake for Righteous Fury) as he knew that we wanted to keep our neutral position towards DDC and to Xetic. He openly attacked one of our members and I spoke to (I believe he's former ceo now) of DDC, he stopped the alt war for us but said if we shot Mis again, he would KOS us. Mis kept talking in local and provoking us, he attacked us so we returned fire.
DDC declared on us but retracted a few days later to declare on the Lost Souls I believe. We redeclared and fought for minimal losses (2) exodus came and we retracted before DDC joined the ingame Xetic alliance so we wouldn't have to fight everyone (and pick up the bill).
Cliff: We were logged on all the time, infact I took a gank patrol of ddc who was trying to kill me around caldari space and the highways because I was bored. I heard they were slightly annoyed when after they went to the backwater caldari systems I was in amarr oops :P, Most DDC don't know us and those that do don't know the whole story, I respect a lot of ddc whom I know and I still won't fire on them due to my loyality towards them.
I thought you (KSUDruid) weren't involved with the war against us, I originally believed you were still in VersaTech. However checking the Slackers kill/loss tracker I can see you were in DDC at the time and did take out Boom's blackbird (it was only one Blackbird not two as you said and your tracker backs this up). This was the first loss with our second being a Vexor. They were our only losses you can check this out using your own killboard. Its been a long time since this happened (November 16th to be precise) and you may be confusing this incident with various others.
I ask that you please stop making personal attacks towards Righteous, you look unprofessional towards your corporation and alliance. Righteous' map has nothing to do with this thread nor the comments he made.
Thanks,
Arkanis
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Ras Blumin
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Posted - 2005.03.19 00:39:00 -
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Originally by: Liet Traep
Contact a Xetic diplomat if you have a problem. Flaming on open forums will get you no help. List of xetic diplomats can be found at www.xetic.org
What flaming are you talking about? As far as I can see, UO has been very sincere, and even polite, considering the circumstances.
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olyyyyy
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Posted - 2005.03.19 01:08:00 -
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Originally by: MASSADEATH
we have contacted them, and DDC is killing and podding us...
Adter reading the other thread you made I can assure you i'll put all the pressure I can to prevent you from leaving DDC KOS.
You deserved it.
Galaga (Galaxian - XIF corp) And yes, Olyyy is on our KOS list so she enjoys stirring the "flames" ( 2004.05.25 ) |
MASSADEATH
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Posted - 2005.03.19 01:48:00 -
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does that mean yuo will help us? not sure what you are exactly saying? its UO that is KOS...not DDC
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Paul Lebaue
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Posted - 2005.03.19 03:05:00 -
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I have to agree with Neslo on this one. I to have had only good experiences working with UO in the area. And I got the exact same info as Neslo did regarding the incident. DDC have always been good friends of my group in that area and I respect them for it. But even I feel that this incident was treated harshly. Allthough I feel that adding allies to battle agaist DDC is a wrong move I cant really blame UO for taking that step. I was hoping that this incident could be treated more diplomaticly but as Neslo already pointed out there seems to have existed some animosity between the two groups already. And it seems as if this incident just helped push the issue over the edge.
Due to your earlier relations with me and my group Massa I wont participate in any agressions against you and your group. And I am advicing my members to do the same. Our current standing with you and your group will stay the same as long as you continue and show the same with us.
As for DDC they are old friends. And I will respect their decision but strongly advice them to take a different course then they are currently on regarding this. However I will not interfere with any actions they decide to make against UO.
Sincerly
Paul
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MASSADEATH
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Posted - 2005.03.19 03:59:00 -
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Hi Paul,
I agree asking for help against DDC is a bad choice on our part... BUT its our last option..we are cornered and have no options left...so as a cornered animal we have to do what we have to do. I am very sorry to all our friends that it has come to this... but it will force us to take actions that we would normally never consider.
We tried to talk this out and DDC does not care...
We contacted Xetic, and they have told us just now that we must work it out with DDC.
and as you have seen DDC does not want to work this out. They will soon be declaring war on us...
so what would you have us do? we have done nothing wrong..and really dont have a choice but too fight...so we will fight...
if you see and hear us doing actions that are unsavory, again I apologise now, but our backs are against the wall with this tyranical DDC corporation, and we really have no options left.
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Question2
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Posted - 2005.03.19 04:11:00 -
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Read through first page.
My impression of how the conversation occured on first page :
Death : explains the issue
Druid : You smack-talked us.Die.
Death : We didnt!We are good guys!
Druid : Stop whining and die.You gatecamped a system!
Death : To stop a VTIL pilot,yes.
Druid : *throws all semblence of attempting to debate the issue out of the window* YOU SUCK!WE DONT LIKE YOU!DIE ALREADY!!!!
Its so entertaining reading blatant trolling messages that are allowed in.
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Firebyrd
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Posted - 2005.03.19 04:18:00 -
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as someone who has been setup twice, by rogue pilots, i have to agree with Massa, seems DDC is not doing research into an attack, but want to shoot first and ask questions later, if this isnt handled diplomaticly, and it comes out that as a setup by a rogue pilot, then DDC has damaged the rep of its own corp, and Xetic/Stain alliance, and any other corp that takes it side....
and since it comes out of another corp that it was a setup, then DDC is in the wrong, and is just looking to be a "playground bully".
Now, if this is an open act of aggresstion by UO, then DDC has every right to defend its allies....
what i dont like tho, is the quietness of the DDC CEO, and Vtil CEO, seems they'd rather their directors talk for them, makes u wonder who really is in control.....
o well GL to UO, and hope its resolved quickly for everyone
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Posted - 2005.03.19 04:48:00 -
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Arkanis: I did indeed only get the one blackbird kill after going back over the logs, and yes, it was a long time ago.
My real issue with RF is to the tone that he hasn't (or slackers for that matter) been around the region in a rather long time, save for one instance when he was piggybacking with some GKS pilots. But yet he always manages to find any forums with mention of DDC and come up spouting his righteous bullshaz. Check this exact thread and NO WHERE was Slacker Industries even mentioned but yet he shows up and declares DDC a "sub-par pvp corp" Like he would honestly know. Therefore in true forum spirit, teh personel attack bat gets brought out. We don't start problems, thats not our nature. But by god you stand around flame away, and we're gonna throw it right back at you.
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One more time, for the record, here are some facts regarding UO.
1. FACT: DDC and UO used to be allies. We conducted many joint operations.
2. FACT: During this time UO would CONSTANTLY belittle DDC and their tactics, for reasons unknown (my guess is jealousy).
3. FACT: DDC finally got sick of putting up with UO's Bullcrap and booted them from joint operations and reset them to zero standings. They were just like anyone else operating in providence a neutral.
4. FACT: UO leadership after being shunned by us decided to "get revenege" on DDC in particular and began pirating in the area, the apex of this was during a brief moment ALL of UO's senior leadership joined m0o and we proceeded to have a very nice fleet battle with m0o, where each side took roughly equal, but rather steep losses.
5. FACT: During this period while ex-UO members were in m0o, current UO members (including you massadeth) were seen feeding intel to m0o (the ex-UO people) on DDC fleet positions, numbers, and strength, on numerous occasions. This led to UO becoming KOS the first time.
6. FACT: After the ex-UO members who joined m0o were booted from m0o they formed a new corporation, we have been at constant conflict with them due to their consistant pirating in the providence region. Many MANY signs have indicated they still hold ties with the UO of current.
7. FACT: After a few quick poddings of your members you (just like you're doing now) begged and pleaded that the mighty DDC leave you alone, as you were all just newbs without your leaders and had no where left to turn. We gave you the benefit of the doubt and reset your standings to neutral, and let you be.
8. FACT: From that time to now we have still ocassionally recieved reports of UO doing somewhat questionable things such as accepting known theifs, stripmining systems with rares for no other reason than to deny other people access to it, and blockading known public systems with rares. All questionable activity, but nothing to outright declare you KOS again.
9. FACT: For whatever reason, you opened fire on a known peaceful corp of the region that has frequented a system for many MANY months. After this incident you once again proceeded to blockade the said system with warp bubbles and also did some rather NASTY smacktalk from what I understand in local, some of it directed at DDC in particular.
10. FACT: We've labled you KOS again, and now that some of your members have died you are once again repeating the same cycle of whining crying and moaning about how you've never ever done anything wrong and how good of people you are. Enough is Enough.
Where there's smoke, there's fire. UO is nothing but trouble, never have been, never will be anything different. We've put up with SO EFFING MUCH from you guys it isn't funny. Therefore, you are KOS to DDC and it's permanent.
People wonder why there's so few "good" guys left in this game it's because we have to put up with crap like this from people we try to be nice too. m0o is running on daily rampages through the area, you've got an entire alliance that is based on pirating innocents now in war in the area, and you actually have the balls to call DDC "tyrannical" and how we're soooo evil and you should stand up to us. And to top it off all the bleeding hearts and liberals honestly think that we didn't have some DARN good reasons to declare these people KOS. Gimme a freaking break.
I HOPE (although i doubt) you will finally understand why it's come to this. I would ask any other alliance/allied members to contact us through proper channels (and the forums aren't proper channels) if they wish to discuss this any further. This is the final word on the subject.
-KSUDruid out
-Druid "Civis Ascendant"
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Hobbsalong
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Posted - 2005.03.19 04:53:00 -
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So a lot of guesswork and 7th hand info.
But who can get past the sound theory.. where smoke.. run like a mofo.
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MASSADEATH
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Posted - 2005.03.19 06:49:00 -
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KSDRUID
i cannot control what happend in the past, and i cannot control what our former members who LEFT UO did to you..obviously you ticked them all off enough for them to leave us and pushed them into BECOMING PIRATES...yes you did that... cause if i recall you were being bullies and tyranical...so in essence your actions are repeating themselfs even though we have done our best to stop this fight that is coming..
are any of those former people or alts in our corp now....
NO....they are all gone....
the rest of your comments are all lies..the story i posted on what started this is the truth..and EVEN the pilot and CORP who was involved agrees with this...
so you say yuo have sooo many people fighting in your area... moo , pirates..ect....
well guess what.... due to your , rudeness, bullying and thugery.. you have one more group of people that very shortly are going to harrass you and your players every day until you are sick of us, we are going to interfere in every way we can with you , and do as much damage as possible to you ....
WHY? cause thats what you want...
the olive branch is still open until monday....
I don't think UO can be anymore even keeled and tempered than that even after having to deal with your lies and deceit that run so deep and strong, your corporation does not even know when its lying anymore. It all just muddles into one blurry trickle of propaganda.
ohh and as for strip mining RNF... who has the POS there? WHO protects it from pirates? NOT DDC.... we are one of the oldest corps out in RNF.. nuff said and we dont strip mine anything.. WHY cause we actually live there..its our 00 home... unlike you empire hugging thugs that hide behind concord.. we actually LIVE in 00...and have to deal with the issues on a constant basis
anyway..sorry for getting all rowled up...i dont mean to be rude or nasty, but this whole situation has irrated me to no end...
see you next week on the battlefield
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Mr Bigglesworth
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Posted - 2005.03.19 06:55:00 -
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Isn't RNF in Catch? What the hell does that have to do with Providence? If someone has a starbase in a dead-end system why would they have to abide by any rules on mining? If someone has a problem with it, either claim the system or stfu, no?
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Murphy
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Posted - 2005.03.19 06:56:00 -
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Four Horseman and Freelancers have both decided to stay out of it, and we've told them that's not a problem. It's their decision as a corp and we respect that. Four Horseman is a corp in our own alliance and Freelancers is our friends and allies and have been for over a year. It is very distasteful to try and get these corps to attack us along with other corps, and to me shows your true nature. The more you whine and the more stunts like this you pull only serve to prove why we're tired of dealing with you.
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Murphy
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Posted - 2005.03.19 07:05:00 -
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Edited by: Murphy on 19/03/2005 07:12:00
Quote:
well guess what.... due to your , rudeness, bullying and thugery.. you have one more group of people that very shortly are going to harrass you and your players every day until you are sick of us, we are going to interfere in every way we can with you , and do as much damage as possible to you ....
WE'RE ALREADY SICK OF YOU, THAT'S THE WHOLE POINT!!!!
Quote:
unlike you empire hugging thugs that hide behind concord.. we actually LIVE in 00...and have to deal with the issues on a constant basis
anyway..sorry for getting all rowled up...i dont mean to be rude or nasty, but this whole situation has irrated me to no end...
Insulting us does not go very far in making us like you any, and if you were truly sorry you would have deleted it before posting it. And as for your former corp mates being gone, That is some of the same things they said to us.
And fighting a 30 ship supremacy fleet in empire can't really be considered hiding behind concord. and yes we had about the same size fleet. BTW fun fight guys :)
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KSUDruid
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Posted - 2005.03.19 07:11:00 -
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Originally by: Murphy
And as for your former corp mates being gone, That is some of the same things they said to us.
Hell I wouldn't bet massadeth isn't just another one of razor's alts anyway. Same Bull**** Channel, different Bull**** character .
-Druid "Civis Ascendant"
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MASSADEATH
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Posted - 2005.03.19 07:16:00 -
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sorry i have no alts at this time...
and obviously being polite and nice gets us no where with your corp...so you have forced us into being nasty...as i said above i apologize to our friends for our future actions...
kinda funny though..that IF UO is SOOO bad, that all the other corps in RNF some who are xetic...are all our friends? and think we are good?
strange how that is possible, and strange that they dont want to attack us even though you claim we are so bad..and they have to deal with us on a daily basis...
how does your logic follow with that?
seems odd to me
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Steel Rat
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Posted - 2005.03.19 07:47:00 -
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Firebyrd: This situation has been explained to me and does not require me posting in this thread. But if you require a statement from me, here it is:
This situation comes as a result of many problems with UO over the past months. DDC has set UO back to neutral a number of times. The most recent was after the UO CEO returned to take back control of his corp. Thing here is, there isn't 1 issue that has lead DDC to place UO to -10, but a number of issues.
Now I know alot of corps/pilots like to badmouth DDC for whatever reason, but we usually go out of our way to protect small corps and not fire on neutrals. We try very hard to play the "good" guys in Eve and be fair to new/small corps. There is many many corps in providence that we have helped, UO being 1 of those. In return, UO has badmouthed us while calling us allies, has turned on us, has specifically gone against us regarding certain systems DDC has fought to keep open to smaller corps (we sure as hell didn't need those systems) and then proceeds to come on the forums and saying how we evil and unfair we are.
DDC plays Eve pretty black and white. Your either with us or against us. UO repeatedly shows they are not with us. So lets just quit screwing around on the forums and get in the game and show me how tough UO is. I am sure I will notice with the other 2000+ war targets I currently have.
One last thing Massa, you can take your olive branch and stick it where the sun doesn't shine. You spouting off on these forums is most definitely not the way to make DDC consider not shooting you every chance we get.
Steel Rat
DDC CEO
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Batar Fireheart
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Posted - 2005.03.19 11:22:00 -
[82]
Edited by: Batar Fireheart on 19/03/2005 11:34:46
I have known the ddc for over a year and a member for 4 months now and in that time I have never seen them attack anyone that didnt deserve it. I will tell you something massadeath you should probably move out of the area or pick a different route back to empire if you dont want to lose ships. You guys dug this hole yourselves and should deal with it and stop crying about it.. please 
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Xiliath
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Posted - 2005.03.19 12:43:00 -
[83]
I have to back up Batar on that one, I too have known DDC for over a year and even though I've never been a member of there corperation I know them very well and have yet to see them attack someone who didn't deserve it.
Xiliath
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Arkanis
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Posted - 2005.03.19 12:46:00 -
[84]
Originally by: KSUDruid
My real issue with RF is to the tone that he hasn't (or slackers for that matter) been around the region in a rather long time, save for one instance when he was piggybacking with some GKS pilots. But yet he always manages to find any forums with mention of DDC and come up spouting his righteous bullshaz. Check this exact thread and NO WHERE was Slacker Industries even mentioned but yet he shows up and declares DDC a "sub-par pvp corp" Like he would honestly know. Therefore in true forum spirit, teh personel attack bat gets brought out. We don't start problems, thats not our nature. But by god you stand around flame away, and we're gonna throw it right back at you.
We'e been busy with some wars on the otherside of the galaxy and toward querious, which is why we haven't been in the region recently. The instance you mentioned no one was 'piggybacking' with anyone, if you check the killmails/lossmails depending, you'll see that there was equal/more slackers than GKS. But that's a moot point, they're our friends and we fly in their gangs as they fly in ours.
If you click Righteous' name and check out his last posts you'll see that he rarely if ever makes or joins the bandwagon in any DDC threads, we respect a fair few DDC guys and don't want to paint them all with the same brush. I apologise for his comments if you found them insulting however he believes that his recent experience with ddc warranted those accusations.
Righteous made comments relating to ingame activities what the corporation does. The map is an out of game resource and it was glib and insulting, instead of helping your case you look narrow-minded and resorting to personal attacks to wash the issue. righteous didn't attack your person he made a comment that in his experience he believes to be true. I know you're more intelligent than this, if you have a problem take it up with myself or Righteous' ingame through convo or eve-mail.
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Trey Azagthoth
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Posted - 2005.03.19 12:54:00 -
[85]
Edited by: Trey Azagthoth on 19/03/2005 14:40:34
*image removed* - Jacques Archambault
Vin Diesel claims he has never hailed a taxi. He just runs up to them at stop lights, opens the door, shoves the current passenger over, and tells the cab driver what his new destination is. |
Firebyrd
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Posted - 2005.03.19 17:08:00 -
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Steel, i apreciate ur response, shows that you care about the reputation of DDC and Xetic, as well as a few others, i was not Bad mouthing DDC or Xetic in my previous post, but rather a warning to be cautious of actions, that one may feel justified is waranted....
I was not in RNF that day, so i dont know first hand the circumstances that evolved that day, but it apears there is more to the story... I did however feel that certain memebers of DDC in there posts was heavy handed, and seemed to smak of a personal vendetta, thats my take on what has been said...
i have alot of respect for DDC and some members of xetic, such as you Steel, i dont know Massadeath nor UO, but because i dont i cant side with DDC just because of that....
i was setup 2 weeks ago, lost my thorax setup for mining, the corp responsable we declared war on, a few days later concord declared the war invalid, now this corp has gotten 2 other smaller corps to declare war on my corp, which starts today, and they fired the first shot, i asked the one ceo, y they was declaring war on us, answer was "bcause a friend corp asked us for help in the war, and we dont question y"...
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Today we celebrate, for tomorrow we die
learn from yesterday, that u may be stronger tomorrow
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ivar R'dhak
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Posted - 2005.03.19 19:19:00 -
[87]
After actually reading this whole thread I must say that this winy smearcampaign of yours Massadeath will accomplish exactly the opposite of what you intended. But that is often the way these things go.
Get cloned and learn.
Oh and Trey thnx very mucho for that pic I can now use to annoy the hell out of my corpbuddies.
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Mal-`Appears we got here just in a nick of time. What does that make us?¦
Zoe-¦Big damn heroes sir.¦
Mal-¦Aint we just.¦ |
MadGaz
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Posted - 2005.03.19 19:33:00 -
[88]
Bloody grievers those DDC.
(oh the irony from all the other xetic posts)
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Murphy
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Posted - 2005.03.19 20:47:00 -
[89]
rofl that pic is messed up Trey
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Calanen
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Posted - 2005.03.19 23:09:00 -
[90]
Originally by: MASSADEATH
So what do we do now?
Simple - you die.
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Hobbsalong
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Posted - 2005.03.19 23:11:00 -
[91]
OR you kill DDC. :)
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Zardock
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Posted - 2005.03.19 23:21:00 -
[92]
UO is always free of going in another region than providence.
If you guys preffer to stay and whine about it, then you'll have to accept the fact that you're KOS to DDC.
That's that.
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0subzero0
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Posted - 2005.03.19 23:24:00 -
[93]
Eh wrong section on the forums ?
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Yea thats right, I went there
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(O.o)
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Lucre
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Posted - 2005.03.20 00:13:00 -
[94]
Originally by: ollobrains
What is needed here is to sign up non xetic corps in an short term alliance ?
Why bother? The way things are going I expect the next dev blog to announce that corps will shortly have to pay 30M a week *not* to declare war on Xetic...
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MASSADEATH
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Posted - 2005.03.20 01:05:00 -
[95]
So how was DDC's first day of picking on UO?
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Trey Azagthoth
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Posted - 2005.03.20 01:55:00 -
[96]
Edited by: Trey Azagthoth on 20/03/2005 01:55:25
Ex- Iraqi leader for teh w1n!
I cant believe his name is freaking edited out, so lame.
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danneh
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Posted - 2005.03.20 01:58:00 -
[97]
Originally by: MASSADEATH
So how was DDC's first day of picking on UO?
lol pod killed one of your member 2 today
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Trey Azagthoth
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Posted - 2005.03.20 02:00:00 -
[98]
/me shoots down MASSADEATH on the forums, and pod kills. Thats one kill for me! 
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MASSADEATH
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Posted - 2005.03.20 02:07:00 -
[99]
hmm it went that well for you today did it?
i lost a hauler today....to DDC
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Equinox II
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Posted - 2005.03.20 02:18:00 -
[100]
TBH, killing your haulers are pretty boring (think we got at least 2 of them, right?).. the fight with FoE + mercs later however, that was a blast and a good adrenalin rush!
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Sleyha
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Posted - 2005.03.20 11:26:00 -
[101]
Originally by: Firebyrd
what i dont like tho, is the quietness of the DDC CEO, and Vtil CEO, seems they'd rather their directors talk for them, makes u wonder who really is in control.....
everyone
Firebyrd, I must apologise for my absence in this post.
This event occured while I was not online, I had some business engagements that kept me offline for a few days and I have only just realised now that there even was a post on the issue.
I have been in contact with the parties invlovled and have looked at the facts of the matter. DDC's decision to KOS UO is at their discretion.
Although it seems some aggression was initiated by one of our pilots, it would appear that the matter has gone beyond that event.
We support DDC in the region as they have supported us, and we will assist when and where we're needed.
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Hydroponica
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Posted - 2005.03.20 12:08:00 -
[102]
I can't even believe this thread is still active, let alone 6 pages long and near the top of the list lol
I think it was said best about 5 pages ago, Fight, Flight or burn, what ever your decision, let it go and get back to playing your game ;p
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Psychopat
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Posted - 2005.03.20 12:11:00 -
[103]
Originally by: Hydroponica
That kinda sounds like whining to me....
Coming from Xetic that HAS to hurt!
-=water? Never touch the stuff,fish fock in it=- |
Hydroponica
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Posted - 2005.03.20 12:25:00 -
[104]
Originally by: OffBeaT
DDC shots at anything that moves these days in prov.
thay are a stain on the good name of freedom and liberty for all in prov. XF,CoE,SA are the bigest extorters in the game of EvE.
i would say that its time for Change in prov.
liberty and respect for all in prov was once the way of these systems, a place where smaller empire corps could injoy some small fun in 00 without having too deal with extorting/bribing/bulling.
once again prov is in need of some crusaders too take up the call too end the tyranny of these dictatorships with their ToTalitarianism ways.
We My freinds are Living in times of Oppression, in Prov.
Read the tin outside the gate...I do believe it clearly states something along the lines of, if you aint sposed to be there, you'll be shot. Times of war, if it aint blue, green or purple, it dies...
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Phuze
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Posted - 2005.03.20 13:05:00 -
[105]
Edited by: Phuze on 20/03/2005 13:15:25
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ChaosOne
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Posted - 2005.03.20 15:35:00 -
[106]
massadeath , please request this thread be locked. nothing new will come of this or anything of merit added.
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MASSADEATH
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Posted - 2005.03.20 15:57:00 -
[107]
plus kezz got blow up too....
if ANY one wants to come out and join the fight we are fighting DDC at this moment, they have been attacking us for over 12hrs at our POS....might be one of only large scale POS battles you will be able to witness.. please eve mail me in game if you want to come out and help us... fight the DDC oppression
Victim: Sleyha
Corporation: VersaTech Interstellar Ltd.
Destroyed Type: Tempest
Solar System: Y-MPWL
System Security Level: 0.0
Involved parties:
Name: United Outworlders Corporation (laid the final blow)
Victim: KSUDruid
Corporation: Dirty Deeds Corp.
Destroyed Type: Executioner
Solar System: Y-MPWL
System Security Level: 0.0
Involved parties:
Name: United Outworlders Corporation (laid the final blow)
Victim: Emsigma
Corporation: S.A.S
Destroyed Type: Crow
Solar System: Y-MPWL
System Security Level: 0.0
Involved parties:
Name: United Outworlders Corporation (laid the final blow)
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Equinox II
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Posted - 2005.03.20 16:06:00 -
[108]
Right.. so people should come help out your pos, when your POS actually kills enemies of Xetic/DDC (SAS)..
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Zdragva
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Posted - 2005.03.20 17:14:00 -
[109]
Edited by: Zdragva on 20/03/2005 17:14:19
The UO member that the VTIL member attacked was actually an ex member of VTIL who had borrowed large sums of money from many different VTIL members and had left to join UO. When asked to repay his loans etc. we recieved extraordinary amounts of abuse, along with the reply 'no chance'. Hence VTIL decided that this ex member should die if ever seen in space. Im not entirally sure but I think the UO leadership was informed of this 'difficult' situation arising and was asked to keep out of it until it was resolved. Of course corp m8's are going to defend corp m8's, but by the same token corp thieves are going to be targets to their old corps.
If UO are not willing to stay out of an issue between a guy and his old corp thats a decision they must make. Obviously the RNF gate blockade is a sign that they wish to get involved in the messy business of dealing with corp thieves, and if this has subsequently angered DDC they have no one else to blame but themselves. This corp UO has another ex VTIL member within their ranks, and to this day he remains a friend to all VTIL members. This should point out to any doubters that it is not VTIL's policy to chase after ex corp m8's and hunt them down for the sheer hell of it. We feel that several loans in excess of 50 million EACH is a sum of money the directors are not prepared to see their members get swindled out of.
Corp thieves, and players who use their corps as safety nets from their own despicable actions, especially new corps unaware of their new members personality and history, has always been something unpallatable within Eve, at least in my experiances. Stealing, or simply borrowing isk and leaving and denying that you borrowed money, is an action that leaders within a corp have to think long and hard about, it effects the morale (and wallets) of members, and the decisions made internally on how to deal with such situations can have long reaching and unwelcome ramifications. This is why this particular member was hunted by his old corp, and is why we asked United Outworlders not to fire upon us if we were persuing him.
The resulting issue with DDC appears to me to simply be an unfortunate product of UO's reputation within DDC.
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Joshua Foiritain
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Posted - 2005.03.20 18:09:00 -
[110]
Originally by: MASSADEATH
plus kezz got blow up too....
if ANY one wants to come out and join the fight we are fighting DDC at this moment, they have been attacking us for over 12hrs at our POS....might be one of only large scale POS battles you will be able to witness.. please eve mail me in game if you want to come out and help us... fight the DDC oppression
Victim: Sleyha
Corporation: VersaTech Interstellar Ltd.
Destroyed Type: Tempest
Solar System: Y-MPWL
System Security Level: 0.0
Involved parties:
Name: United Outworlders Corporation (laid the final blow)
Victim: KSUDruid
Corporation: Dirty Deeds Corp.
Destroyed Type: Executioner
Solar System: Y-MPWL
System Security Level: 0.0
Involved parties:
Name: United Outworlders Corporation (laid the final blow)
Victim: Emsigma
Corporation: S.A.S
Destroyed Type: Crow
Solar System: Y-MPWL
System Security Level: 0.0
Involved parties:
Name: United Outworlders Corporation (laid the final blow)
Ohnoes 
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MASSADEATH
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Posted - 2005.03.21 06:11:00 -
[111]
ouchers
Victim: Sleyha
Corporation: VersaTech Interstellar Ltd.
Destroyed Type: Tempest
Solar System: Y-MPWL
System Security Level: 0.0
2005.03.20 11:41:00
Victim: KSUDruid
Corporation: Dirty Deeds Corp.
Destroyed Type: Executioner
Solar System: Y-MPWL
System Security Level: 0.0
2005.03.20 13:01:00
Victim: Emsigma
Corporation: S.A.S
Destroyed Type: Crow
Solar System: Y-MPWL
System Security Level: 0.0
2005.03.21 01:18:00
Victim: KSUDruid
Corporation: Dirty Deeds Corp.
Destroyed Type: Executioner
Solar System: Y-MPWL
System Security Level: 0.0
2005.03.21 02:24:00
Victim: Gris
Corporation: Dirty Deeds Corp.
Destroyed Type: Armageddon
Solar System: Y-MPWL
System Security Level: 0.0
2005.03.21 02:59:00
Victim: Gris
Corporation: Dirty Deeds Corp.
Destroyed Type: Kestrel
Solar System: Y-MPWL
System Security Level: 0.0
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KSUDruid
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Posted - 2005.03.21 08:13:00 -
[112]
Too bad none of your pilots have actually killed any of us, every single last kill you just posted was during our assault on your POS, WHICH we managed to get into reinforced last night. Damn convient 40-50 FOE came down to Sunday this morning to keep us occupied otherwise you're POS would be quite dead.
Unfortuneatly someone in your corp must have grown a brain cell and decided to put up more guns that made it a bit more difficult to get the job done. We'll be back, just had waaaay too many people with hangovers/headaches/jobs to git'er'dun today.
-Druid "Civis Ascendant"
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MASSADEATH
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Posted - 2005.03.22 15:50:00 -
[113]
seems DDC has run away from us twice now :)
hmmmmm......
YES please come visit our POS again.... (and yes it was easy to attack cause duhhh maybe we just set it up a day before)
ps we changed the name of it to the " DEATH STAR"
plus please take care of your allies they need your help..they are starting to come to us for help..which is a sign you "white knights" are not doing such a great job...
you guys are not doing a very good job as being the "police"..in fact you seem worse in your actions than your enemies..
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MASSADEATH
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Posted - 2005.03.22 16:00:00 -
[114]
ohh also...
since you are attacking pretty much helpless miners...our POS is an instrument of our corporation..so i dont see any difference in those kills VS 8 of you ganging up on 1 of our players in his BS... when he was winning the 1 vs 1 battle that he was having with DDC...
so you cant take us 1 vs 1... you just use your sheer numbers to overpower people...
hmmm hey that sounds like a gang and thugery... exactly what i said from the start..
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Phuze
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Posted - 2005.03.22 17:54:00 -
[115]
nullGot Drama? SheeshI'm starting to think you need counseling, i mean one minute your helpless miners lolz, the next l33t pilots takin on DDC one on one,which is it?
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Trey Azagthoth
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Posted - 2005.03.22 18:05:00 -
[116]
Edited by: Trey Azagthoth on 22/03/2005 18:05:53
is it just me, or has MASSADEATH gone from whining like a little****got about DDC, to totally trash talking them? MASSA, heres a few ISK, get a clue, as many differences DDC and I have/had, I can tell you, that if u have gotten the relatively small amount of kills that you claim, then they obviously havent brought their force out on you yet. As far as I know, they are still fighting with FoE, am I correct? Wait til they come home, Im willing to bet you wont have a POS much longer, and I can forsee a new thread complaining about how bad you are getting whooped on. Let me give you a tip MASSA, be modest about whatever kills you get, u just might **** someone in DDC off and have a ****storm on your head 
EDIT: Whats up with the Sleyha killmail having DDC peeps involved in the kill?!?! I know Ive been gone for a while, but have things REALLY gone that far south or is the DDC involvement in the kill just editing by MASSADEATH?
Vin Diesel claims he has never hailed a taxi. He just runs up to them at stop lights, opens the door, shoves the current passenger over, and tells the cab driver what his new destination is. |
Crias Taylor
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Posted - 2005.03.22 18:09:00 -
[117]
Originally by: MASSADEATH
Our corporation has been targeted by DDC for no valid reason.
I know, make a thread about it.
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MASSADEATH
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Posted - 2005.03.22 18:21:00 -
[118]
VTIL attacked us with the DDC gang... DDC assaulted us for 12hrs+ a few days ago in a late night sneak attack... they had 22 BS attacking us...
VTIL was the corp that had the member that started this whole issue BTW...
re: our players
yes we have a few good players in PvP.. and like i said they were fighting DDC in 1vs1 fight and were winning..so DDC ganged up on him..
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Mitawyn
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Posted - 2005.03.22 18:22:00 -
[119]
Originally by: MASSADEATH
ohh also...
since you are attacking pretty much helpless miners...our POS is an instrument of our corporation..so i dont see any difference in those kills VS 8 of you ganging up on 1 of our players in his BS... when he was winning the 1 vs 1 battle that he was having with DDC...
so you cant take us 1 vs 1... you just use your sheer numbers to overpower people...
hmmm hey that sounds like a gang and thugery... exactly what i said from the start..
I can't decide if you are a toad or a twit. You have made so many off the wall statements, who can keep track. You started off pleading and whining and crying. Now you are full of **** among other things along with bravado and bragging. Just amazing. Ever hear don't count your chickens before the eggs have hatched? Guess not, because you are. You are just pathetic.
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MASSADEATH
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Posted - 2005.03.22 18:24:00 -
[120]
i think you may see that "storm" going in the reverse direction..against DDC...
i mean... they attack us with 22 battleships ganking us at 175km away for 12hrs... how many more ships are they gonna bring? 30-50-100?
BTW the lag that day was so bad..it was silly
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Mitawyn
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Posted - 2005.03.22 18:25:00 -
[121]
Originally by: MASSADEATH
VTIL attacked us with the DDC gang... DDC assaulted us for 12hrs+ a few days ago in a late night sneak attack... they had 22 BS attacking us...
VTIL was the corp that had the member that started this whole issue BTW...
re: our players
yes we have a few good players in PvP.. and like i said they were fighting DDC in 1vs1 fight and were winning..so DDC ganged up on him..
Now you are back to blaming VTIL? I thought a few posts ago, you had decided I had set up all this and caused it to happen.  You sure do change your fantasies to fit the moment.
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Dionysus Davinci
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Posted - 2005.03.22 18:26:00 -
[122]
Originally by: MASSADEATH
i think you may see that "storm" going in the reverse direction..against DDC...
I think the general population doesn't care about your little war and there is no need for a public relations campign as well.
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Mitawyn
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Posted - 2005.03.22 18:27:00 -
[123]
Originally by: MASSADEATH
VTIL attacked us with the DDC gang... DDC assaulted us for 12hrs+ a few days ago in a late night sneak attack... they had 22 BS attacking us...
VTIL was the corp that had the member that started this whole issue BTW...
re: our players
yes we have a few good players in PvP.. and like i said they were fighting DDC in 1vs1 fight and were winning..so DDC ganged up on him..
Could you clear that up please? First you it was a 1v1, then you have a "few good players in pvp" and THEY were fighting DDC in 1v1 and winning, so DDC ganged up on HIM? Are you saying HE has a multiple personality disorder? Or is that you?
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DeathGrip
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Posted - 2005.03.22 18:41:00 -
[124]
OK, here is an idea. You see 20+ ships attacking your POS. So you warp to gate and fire on a member, and what, expect nobody to come and kill you. This is freaking stupid. I am sick of this post. Soon as all these other corps undeclare war on DDC I will be creating a Corp to goto war with you if DDC can't for some reason. I am sick of this post, I am sick of you, and you will pay for your actions.
[i]Everyone needs to bring PVP to the table, Miners, Builders, Researchers, Get yourself a Frig, and help out some, You may even |
MASSADEATH
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Posted - 2005.03.22 18:50:00 -
[125]
nuff said... see you in the game
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anter
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Posted - 2005.03.22 18:55:00 -
[126]
This thread is good reading at work. Make it sticky please
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Stella Centauri
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Posted - 2005.03.22 22:58:00 -
[127]
Edited by: Stella Centauri on 22/03/2005 22:59:31
I am one of the members that left UO and started a new corp.
Originally by: KSUDruid
1. FACT: DDC and UO used to be allies. We conducted many joint operations.
True
Originally by: KSUDruid
2. FACT: During this time UO would CONSTANTLY belittle DDC and their tactics, for reasons unknown (my guess is jealousy).
In the end we did this, SOME OF US (the ones that left UOC latter ... read down)
This was because of the fact that we wanted to actually fight the evil pirates, not just scare them away with the use of blobs. I dont understand why DDC fancy blobs that much, it's just boring imo.
Originally by: KSUDruid
3. FACT: DDC finally got sick of putting up with UO's Bullcrap and booted them from joint operations and reset them to zero standings. They were just like anyone else operating in providence a neutral.
Actually Murphy said that we had done squat about clearing providence, funny thing thou cuz I was almost always top10, if not top3 on their kill-list. I am probably still top 20, cant say thou, session timed-out when I try to check.
Originally by: KSUDruid
4. FACT: UO leadership after being shunned by us decided to "get revenege" on DDC in particular and began pirating in the area, the apex of this was during a brief moment ALL of UO's senior leadership joined m0o and we proceeded to have a very nice fleet battle with m0o, where each side took roughly equal, but rather steep losses.
Not get revenge, most people in DDC had never been anything but good mates. But we certainly hated most of the leadership. (Not Gilbert, who I have great respect for, must say that). We also knew that UO would get into more trouble if we didnt leave, so we left. I joined m0o for a fight, logged out and when I came back in I was kicked cuz "We saw what you said about m0o in another channel". My friend Razor said a few pretty bad words about m0o in their corpchat and he was kicked. Althou that has little to do with this issue.
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Stella Centauri
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Posted - 2005.03.22 23:00:00 -
[128]
Originally by: KSUDruid
5. FACT: During this period while ex-UO members were in m0o, current UO members (including you massadeth) were seen feeding intel to m0o (the ex-UO people) on DDC fleet positions, numbers, and strength, on numerous occasions. This led to UO becoming KOS the first time.
I honestly never heard any of this, and even if it took place it wasnt like we ever needed that intel. M0o was camping one gate, DDC on the other side. And neither have I seen any logs about this "sighting"
Originally by: KSUDruid
6. FACT: After the ex-UO members who joined m0o were booted from m0o they formed a new corporation, we have been at constant conflict with them due to their consistant pirating in the providence region. Many MANY signs have indicated they still hold ties with the UO of current.
We are pirates yes, we are also old friends with the OU-guys, since that's where we have spent ALOT of time. This friendship is about we avoid them - they avoid us.
Originally by: KSUDruid
7. FACT: After a few quick poddings of your members you (just like you're doing now) begged and pleaded that the mighty DDC leave you alone, as you were all just newbs without your leaders and had no where left to turn. We gave you the benefit of the doubt and reset your standings to neutral, and let you be.
Comments not necessary
Originally by: KSUDruid
8. FACT: From that time to now we have still ocassionally recieved reports of UO doing somewhat questionable things such as accepting known theifs, stripmining systems with rares for no other reason than to deny other people access to it, and blockading known public systems with rares. All questionable activity, but nothing to outright declare you KOS again.
The only thing I've heard about stripmining is where a friend of mine, and a friend of UO asked a member of DDC friendly to not strip the roids in RNF-YH after he had seen this one do that. The answer was in line with "You dont tell us what to do"
Originally by: KSUDruid
9. FACT: For whatever reason, you opened fire on a known peaceful corp of the region that has frequented a system for many MANY months. After this incident you once again proceeded to blockade the said system with warp bubbles and also did some rather NASTY smacktalk from what I understand in local, some of it directed at DDC in particular.
This has been discussed enough, and I dont know anything but what I have read here, other than that "from what I understand" is all the proof you ever show me, druid.
Originally by: KSUDruid
10. FACT: We've labled you KOS again, and now that some of your members have died you are once again repeating the same cycle of whining crying and moaning about how you've never ever done anything wrong and how good of people you are. Enough is Enough.
And I guess next thing you are gonna whine about, druid, is that they are defending theirselves.
Oh well I'm greatful, this gives me a good chance to fight side by side with my good mates again.
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danneh
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Posted - 2005.03.22 23:16:00 -
[129]
Originally by: anter
This thread is good reading at work. Make it sticky please
Hahaha Signed
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Hydroponica
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Posted - 2005.03.22 23:57:00 -
[130]
Originally by: MASSADEATH
nuff said... see you in the game
Only took 3 days, not bad...
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Kythanis
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Posted - 2005.03.23 03:15:00 -
[131]
Ok seems to me every time DDC gets brought into the spot light it starts a flame war, and a war of she said he said.....
You know Im actually surprised that this thread wasnt locked a few pages back but kudos I guess to the mods, cause now I can say something before the lock hits yet another pointless thread
Its just a real shame CCP cant enforce a policy that would at least show maturity in the player base. This Im 30 acting like a 13yr old is getting pretty tiresome.
Massadeath, UO leadership, if you wanted to work this out and by working this out you would be a little more proactive, but instead I have seen time and time again where somewhere is posting snipits of local showing just how rude some of your smack talk is.
IF you truely want to see a peaceful resolution to this conflict I would suggest talking with Steel.
DDC members posting in the furoms I can say this, keep it clean you know what Im like when Im not a happy camper
To the 3rd, 4th, 5th and whatever other parties, you do as you please after all we are all paying to play this. Just remember it's only a game.
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ollobrains
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Posted - 2005.03.23 03:24:00 -
[132]
Lol its been a good read and a good ISK sink by the looks of it - if DDC is getting smashed, disperse youre corp members to the far reaches of the universe until the war ends.
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Trey Azagthoth
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Posted - 2005.03.23 03:40:00 -
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omgnothreadlockingftw!
Vin Diesel claims he has never hailed a taxi. He just runs up to them at stop lights, opens the door, shoves the current passenger over, and tells the cab driver what his new destination is. |
ollobrains
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Posted - 2005.03.23 03:48:00 -
[134]
Where is this DDC and UO fighting take place i smell equipment and ship supply opportunities lots of ISK to be made me thinks ?
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KSUDruid
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Posted - 2005.03.23 04:30:00 -
[135]
Stella: The fight that occurred in d6/h6 resulted in even losses on each side, both sides lost five battleships, and a roughly equal value of support ships. I'll bust out the killmails if you really want us to prove it. It was a good fun fight and we gave props to everyone involved.
As far as you fighting? lol, that's funny.. if you're not sitting 200km away in some sort of sniper kit then you're in a safespot telling us how we continually blob and how awesome you are. Same BS you used to spew, nothing has changed.
Will all you kids just shut up already and start fighting us? You wanna kill us, great, GET IN FREAKING LINE, we dropped a 12 hour siege on your POS cause we thought it might be fun.. unfortunately downtime came around just as we got your shields into reinforced mode, and downtime screwed some of the game mechanics up as well as most of our pilots not being around after reinforced came back down.
Like I said, we'll be back to finish it off, we know how to now. We'll just let you waste money on that ISK Sink you think is so darn cool.
But I think the consensus is clear from the community, shut your trap and take it in game like everyone else does.
-Druid "Civis Ascendant"
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Hydroponica
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Posted - 2005.03.23 04:56:00 -
[136]
aha, well said. Signed
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Stella Centauri
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Posted - 2005.03.23 09:37:00 -
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No we wont fight you. It's a win for us when we kill everyone that passes until you show up with at least 4x our numbers and we safespot and get on with our real-life while hanging afk waiting for you to get bored and we can kill everything that moves again.
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Bloodcryer
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Posted - 2005.03.23 18:16:00 -
[138]
Well at least Stella admits they wont fight us....if i remember correctly we came into y-m yesterday to find you 160km off the gate trying to snipe one of our cepters lolz....even numbers came in...found 3 of you by the gate...what did you do? Safespotted and i guess"got on with rl or something",*sigh* guess half truth is all were lucky to get from your posts..GG
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Phuze
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Posted - 2005.03.23 18:25:00 -
[139]
above post was mine...eh my bad...this should help clarify it for ya stellajus goes to show...never know who you may be safespotting from lolz...gotta love bio alts
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Liu Kaskakka
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Posted - 2005.03.23 18:35:00 -
[140]
Originally by: MASSADEATH
We ask to be in peace, and left alone, please advise what yuo think our course of action should be.
Thank You
Massadeath
Die, fight back or join an NPC corp and stay in hisec.
Thank You
Liu
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Stella Centauri
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Posted - 2005.03.23 18:50:00 -
[141]
Originally by: Phuze
*sigh* guess half truth is all were lucky to get from your posts..G
Right back at you, if I remember correctly I was 120km away, killed 2 of your frigs (1 ceptor, 1 kestrel) and warped out before your blob in kari (10-ish or so, not sure, just remember it was at least 2 battleships and a bunch of cruisers vs our 1 bs and 2 cruisers) came in, killed one of our guys and camped that gate for an hour or so...
That's just what I remember
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Sleyha
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Posted - 2005.03.23 23:05:00 -
[142]
Originally by: Trey Azagthoth
Edited by: Trey Azagthoth on 22/03/2005 18:05:53
EDIT: Whats up with the Sleyha killmail having DDC peeps involved in the kill?!?! I know Ive been gone for a while, but have things REALLY gone that far south or is the DDC involvement in the kill just editing by MASSADEATH?
The kill mail was an Edit by Massa, I lost my ship after DT, after I logged on I warped back into the POS location but it put me too close to some active guns. I lost the ship before I had time to align. Rather careless of me.
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MASSADEATH
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Posted - 2005.03.23 23:32:00 -
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Well i have to speak again much to the displeasure of some..
DDC i mean come on... DDC just had one of thier buddy corps "last call" declare war on us..and is now ganking the kari gates and y-mpwl gates together....
i have not done hardly any PvP..but obviously have now started.. here is what i see..
WE engage DDC in equal numbers...they RUN
WE engage DDC in equal numbers...they blob us
OR DDC blobs us... AND calls in other corps to help.
so what has turned itnto just a DDC issue, now other xetic corps are ganking us...
VERSATECH
LAST CALL
GOLDEN OAK
AND DDC
so far they show no honor on the field at all from what i have seen.
and on top of that... they gloat and praise themselfs on spending 8 hours blowing up our abandoned OFFLINE POS that was in RNF... whoohoo good kill guys ..duhh
its gotten sad and pathetic
I say we do this.....
lets take 10 chosen players with thier ships of choice...
we pick a system....those 10 fight to to death..winner claims victory... loser's army/corp has to pull out of providence all assets, all connections...
winner gives them honorable safe passage...
let the best players win. (vs the MOST)
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Murphy
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Posted - 2005.03.24 00:00:00 -
[144]
We don't have to have our friends come to our aid. You sided with corp 1 and FOE and people don't like them. They know you're calling them into the area to gank DDC and they know that not only will they shoot at us, they'll shoot anything that moves. So in allying yourself with FOE you have made enemies of xetic and stain.
And yes there was stain ships with us in RNF blowing up your POS.
And as for your little duel. you come into the area and act all big, ally yourselves with known enemies of the area, post all this crap on the forums and then want to do this? you're not worthy of a duel.
To have an honorable duel with somebody you have to respect them, and to be honest nobody respects you. so just go away now and save what little face you have left.
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Kythanis
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Posted - 2005.03.24 00:06:00 -
[145]
Originally by: MASSADEATH
Well i have to speak again much to the displeasure of some..
DDC i mean come on... DDC just had one of thier buddy corps "last call" declare war on us..and is now ganking the kari gates and y-mpwl gates together....
Well Ill give you a clue about that one, maybe it's because they dont like you either.
We can not stop ppl from declaring war one way or the other so its a moot point.
Originally by: MASSADEATH
i have not done hardly any PvP..but obviously have now started.. here is what i see..
WE engage DDC in equal numbers...they RUN
WE engage DDC in equal numbers...they blob us
OR DDC blobs us... AND calls in other corps to help.
Again this is a no brainer, but since you need a picture or smaller words....
DDC does fight even odds, we just cant help the fact that everyone wants to shoot at you. From what Ive seen on the forums so far and tales of local smacktalk I cant say I blame them. Hell I might actually decide to take some mining lasers off and come out rigged for a fight.
Originally by: MASSADEATH
so what has turned itnto just a DDC issue, now other xetic corps are ganking us...
VERSATECH
LAST CALL
GOLDEN OAK
AND DDC
so far they show no honor on the field at all from what i have seen.
and on top of that... they gloat and praise themselfs on spending 8 hours blowing up our abandoned OFFLINE POS that was in RNF... whoohoo good kill guys ..duhh
Well your just showing that you are whining again.
Originally by: MASSADEATH
its gotten sad and pathetic
yes it is getting rather sad and pathetic but not the way you think it is!
Originally by: MASSADEATH
I say we do this.....
lets take 10 chosen players with thier ships of choice...
we pick a system....those 10 fight to to death..winner claims victory... loser's army/corp has to pull out of providence all assets, all connections...
winner gives them honorable safe passage...
let the best players win. (vs the MOST)
Im sure you will find 10 willing and able ppl from DDC, can you say the same from UO??? Oh wait I know you'll show up figure you cant win and run away again!
This really is getting rather pointless and Im almost certain the only ppl reading this thread now are doing it for giggles.
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Mitawyn
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Posted - 2005.03.24 01:05:00 -
[146]
Originally by: MASSADEATH
Well i have to speak again much to the displeasure of some..
DDC i mean come on... DDC just had one of thier buddy corps "last call" declare war on us..and is now ganking the kari gates and y-mpwl gates together....
i have not done hardly any PvP..but obviously have now started.. here is what i see..
WE engage DDC in equal numbers...they RUN
WE engage DDC in equal numbers...they blob us
OR DDC blobs us... AND calls in other corps to help.
so what has turned itnto just a DDC issue, now other xetic corps are ganking us...
VERSATECH
LAST CALL
GOLDEN OAK
AND DDC
so far they show no honor on the field at all from what i have seen.
and on top of that... they gloat and praise themselfs on spending 8 hours blowing up our abandoned OFFLINE POS that was in RNF... whoohoo good kill guys ..duhh
its gotten sad and pathetic
I say we do this.....
lets take 10 chosen players with thier ships of choice...
we pick a system....those 10 fight to to death..winner claims victory... loser's army/corp has to pull out of providence all assets, all connections...
winner gives them honorable safe passage...
let the best players win. (vs the MOST)
You really don't get it do you? Poor little whiney toad.
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Trey Azagthoth
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Posted - 2005.03.24 02:45:00 -
[147]
man, I freaking LOVE it when someone starts a thread to smacktalk about ppl only to get it turned on them and they get freaking gangbanged in their own thread. Thats priceless.
Vin Diesel claims he has never hailed a taxi. He just runs up to them at stop lights, opens the door, shoves the current passenger over, and tells the cab driver what his new destination is. |
Zardock
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Posted - 2005.03.24 03:55:00 -
[148]
Originally by: Kythanis
This really is getting rather pointless and Im almost certain the only ppl reading this thread now are doing it for giggles.
Yep, reading this while camping them is fun...
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Marcus Grisbius
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Posted - 2005.03.24 04:19:00 -
[149]
Add us to the war dec list Massadeath. And it's primarily from your behavior and misinformation in this thread plus the actions and stances that you've conducted against our friends. Now quit whining.
Certainty of death... little chance of success... what are we waiting for? - Gimli, son of Gloinn |
danneh
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Posted - 2005.03.24 04:21:00 -
[150]
Originally by: Marcus Grisbius
Add us to the war dec list Massadeath. And it's primarily from your behavior and misinformation in this thread plus the actions and stances that you've conducted against our friends. Now quit whining.
Amen Marcus!
Marcus 4TW
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Hobbsalong
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Posted - 2005.03.24 04:30:00 -
[151]
Edited by: Hobbsalong on 24/03/2005 04:31:59
Quote:
man, I freaking LOVE it when someone starts a thread to smacktalk about ppl only to get it turned on them and they get freaking gangbanged in their own thread. Thats priceless
ROFL
Blobbing the forums too. OMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMG
Its also funny most of the corps that surrendered to us and FOE seem to be war decing these guys. Oh the irony.
Might have to war dec some of them individually. Course I can only ask for it.. upto the command to put it through.
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KSUDruid
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Posted - 2005.03.24 04:31:00 -
[152]
Originally by: MASSADEATH
WE engage DDC in equal numbers...they RUN
WE engage DDC in equal numbers...they blob us
*snip*
so what has turned itnto just a DDC issue, now other xetic corps are ganking us...
We've never engaged you even numbers because there's so pathetically few of you, there's nothing to engage. And actually, now that I think about it, I did take on 3 of you guys the other night SOLO, but that isn't even odds either, my bad.
And seriously, you ally yourself with FOE and corp1, and now you honestly think XF and SE are just gonna let that slide? Hah, we had to tell people to keep away from RNF last night for fear of crashing the nodes due to the lag from beating on your POS, EVERYONE wanted to come out and pound on UO's offline tower.
But hey, scroll back a few pages, you guys wanted a fight, you wanted to end DDC's "Ebil Tyrrany," and now you can't take the heat? Figures.. Now, if you'll excuse me, I have some quality time to spend with premier. I'm sure your POS exploding will make a fairly cool short film.
-Druid "Civis Ascendant"
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