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Jon Hawkes
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Posted - 2005.03.18 14:08:00 -
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Hello guys,
I was recently talking to a producer in who works in an out of the way area of Period Basis space who told me that the alliance in this area did not mind neutrals entering space, as long as they were non hostile and handed over 5% of any ores mined. What concerns me is that even though it isn't a very busy system, there does seem to be a good number of pod kills per hour. The guy I was speaking to seemed genuine, had a nice positive security rating and was very helpful in terms of mining advice and how to avoid gate campers in that region (thankyou!), but the character in charge of the alliance had a bounty on his head (only 1M isk) and had a security rating of -1.4.
Could this be a trap to lure in unsuspecting newcomers? I don't really think it is, but I would like to know a little more about this area of space before I make a 50 jump voyage. Have any of you been through this region and do you know what their attitude is towrds outsiders, bearing in mind I am a non-aggressiveminer/producer, not a PvPer?
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Belian
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Posted - 2005.03.18 14:18:00 -
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try and have a talk whit Lallante or Jeebs thy can set you up whit a deal so we dont shoot you if you come down to oure home
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Foyle
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Posted - 2005.03.18 14:20:00 -
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Edited by: Foyle on 18/03/2005 14:20:25
Contact them in game, they will tell you what is what. If they say its ok, they wont shoot you when you arrive, they will hold up to their word.
Lallante is a dodgy dude, but I think they have his lead on lately
Edit: What belain said, BUT Lallante is still dodgy I say
Eternally yours, MuthaTrucka
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Jon Hawkes
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Posted - 2005.03.18 14:25:00 -
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Thanks guys,
I eve mailed Lallante yesterday, was just a bit concerned over the amount of pod kills/lack of insurance and cloning services in the area. I guess if I can get through FOE controlled regions, Period Basis shouldn't be too bad. I hope to run into you soon.
Also, I don't mind dodgy people, it's just the ore thieves I hate, especially as you can't shoot 'em in Empire with COncord getting annoyed about it! 
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thoth foc
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Posted - 2005.03.18 14:32:00 -
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shinra are a pvp corp that basically wants to live off spinalless miners without having to look after them ;) "allow neutrals" translates to "are busy elsewhere and dont really care.. and only want their cut of the ore" so once u understand that u will realise that u are helping them, and if u wanna do the work for them they will be happy to let u.. (and NO that doesnt make them bad ppl.. they are gives u a services of relative safety to mine/NPC..)
it is a good model for everyone.. most pvp corps leave u alone as they get on well with shinra and pb is a long long walk :S .. and then u only have to deal with random pirates.. which well are part of life..
--thoth
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Jon Hawkes
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Posted - 2005.03.18 14:37:00 -
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All I need is to be left alone, I'm more than happy to hand over Shinra's cut. The other guys in my little corp are PvPers, but their skills aren't high enough yet to succesfully engage in 0.0 activities, as we've only been playing a couple of weeks. I just want other new players not to fear the 0.0!
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Foyle
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Posted - 2005.03.18 14:53:00 -
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 Originally by: Jon Hawkes
Thanks guys,
I eve mailed Lallante yesterday, was just a bit concerned over the amount of pod kills/lack of insurance and cloning services in the area. I guess if I can get through FOE controlled regions, Period Basis shouldn't be too bad. I hope to run into you soon.
Also, I don't mind dodgy people, it's just the ore thieves I hate, especially as you can't shoot 'em in Empire with COncord getting annoyed about it!
FOE Territory is a war zone atm.
Best of luck, whatever you decide to do.
Eternally yours, MuthaTrucka
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pHASE 11
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Posted - 2005.03.18 14:55:00 -
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Edited by: pHASE 11 on 18/03/2005 15:02:28
Edited by: pHASE 11 on 18/03/2005 14:56:40
Good luck in your travelling.
A couple of friendly hints:
Don't rely on security rating in your investigations. It reflects amount of pvp activity in empire space of said person but nothing more.
Always remember that ganging up with someone (shinra in this case) will sooner or later get you some enemies (in this case FA) but that's part of the game.
Continously evading pvp in 0.0 by claiming to be a "non-agressive miner/producer" won't work in the long run but that's how it should be.
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Jon Hawkes
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Posted - 2005.03.18 15:03:00 -
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Originally by: Foyle
FOE Territory is a war zone atm.
Best of luck, whatever you decide to do.
I noticed: Never a dull moment!
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fugazii
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Posted - 2005.03.18 16:07:00 -
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considering u can change ur sec lv so fast, putting trust in someone because of thier sec lv is very dumb.
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Alowishus
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Posted - 2005.03.18 16:17:00 -
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Hi. I think I can help.
Shinra is a corp.
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Liu Kaskakka
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Posted - 2005.03.18 16:17:00 -
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Originally by: fugazii
considering u can change ur sec lv so fast, putting trust in someone because of thier sec lv is very dumb.
I'd trust a -10 guy any day over a 5.0 one. The former is a poor honest low sec pie rat and the latter a greedy NPC farmer who is still angered because ebil piewats shot him back in October 2003 and wants to take his revenge on someone.
With one exception of course: Vaari, the Earl of Sosan, is an exquisite gentleman.
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Hast
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Posted - 2005.03.18 16:18:00 -
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and our tax rate is 2% not 5%
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Jon Hawkes
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Posted - 2005.03.18 16:30:00 -
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Originally by: Hast
and our tax rate is 2% not 5%
Well as long as I can stay in Period Basis for a little while, dodging NPCs isn't a huge problem, and I'm not too worried about a 3% difference. I'd be happy to head down to the deep recesses of space; Empire is BOOORRING!
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Market Gopher
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Posted - 2005.03.18 16:36:00 -
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Originally by: thoth foc
shinra are a pvp corp that basically wants to live off spinalless miners without having to look after them ;) "allow neutrals" translates to "are busy elsewhere and dont really care.. and only want their cut of the ore" so once u understand that u will realise that u are helping them, and if u wanna do the work for them they will be happy to let u.. (and NO that doesnt make them bad ppl.. they are gives u a services of relative safety to mine/NPC..)
it is a good model for everyone.. most pvp corps leave u alone as they get on well with shinra and pb is a long long walk :S .. and then u only have to deal with random pirates.. which well are part of life..
Que the Xirtamist trolls and lets get this thread de-railed 
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Heid banger
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Posted - 2005.03.18 16:41:00 -
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shinra are a good bunch of guys, nuts, but a good bunch none the less.
/me waves at the other nutters 0/
Nemesis : Retributive justice in its execution or outcome
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kwoodward
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Posted - 2005.03.18 17:05:00 -
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slightly unhinged is always good
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The Enslaver
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Posted - 2005.03.18 17:25:00 -
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WTS: Info on SNRA, access to SNRA private forums.
Convo me.
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Jeebs
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Posted - 2005.03.18 18:29:00 -
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yeah you contact me, lallante or exaro ingame. thanks.
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Jon Hawkes
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Posted - 2005.03.18 18:32:00 -
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Thanks Jeebs,
I'll send you an Eve mail when I (finally) get home from work!
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Nebba Kenezzer
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Posted - 2005.03.18 18:55:00 -
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Originally by: Jeebs
yeah you contact me, lallante or exaro ingame. thanks.
Actually, contact me instead of exaro. exaro is doing too much ebil stuff. 
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The Enslaver
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Posted - 2005.03.18 19:32:00 -
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NEBBA IS A LIAR AND A CHEAT.
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Bazman
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Posted - 2005.03.18 20:01:00 -
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Yeah, down with Nebba! He stole my capacitor energy. Bastard!
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Snapp
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Posted - 2005.03.18 20:26:00 -
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Originally by: Jon Hawkes
All I need is to be left alone, I'm more than happy to hand over Shinra's cut. The other guys in my little corp are PvPers, but their skills aren't high enough yet to succesfully engage in 0.0 activities, as we've only been playing a couple of weeks. I just want other new players not to fear the 0.0!
What absolutly none of the above people have told you is, PB is an ACTIVE WARZONE.
As well as ANYONE FOUND in the region found with NAP SNRA, or friends of SNRA ect are all VIABLE WAR TARGETS :)
that means me and you get shot by the big bad nasty ebil FA/FIX/IMP Monsters. other then that it's a swell place to do a little mining infact gimme a holler and Ill come show you around. oooh what else thier not telling you is, the NPC's in 00 are a tad different out here hun 
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Jon Hawkes
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Posted - 2005.03.18 20:33:00 -
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Originally by: Snapp
oooh what else thier not telling you is, the NPC's in 00 are a tad different out here hun
Oh yeah, I'm well aware of the consequences with other alliances of being aligned with Shinra, and my travels around the Vale of the Silent, Syndicate, Stain and Paragon Soul have landed me in a few interesting standoffs with the NPCs. But I'm a highly trained coward....
Thanks for the advice Snapp, I'll give you a shout if I ever make it down!
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Cpt Pugwash
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Posted - 2005.03.18 21:00:00 -
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Sinra are a bunch of pirates with a track record of lies and deception. They are playing the wolf in sheeps clothing becuase they think it will get them rich.
If you come to PB and mine to Shinra you will be hunted and killed for assisting these pirates.
Be patient and wait for PB to be liberated before you give 2% of your work to these ebil cutthroats.
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Lord Draco
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Posted - 2005.03.18 21:03:00 -
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Originally by: Cpt Pugwash
Sinra are a bunch of pirates with a track record of lies and deception. They are playing the wolf in sheeps clothing becuase they think it will get them rich.
If you come to PB and mine to Shinra you will be hunted and killed for assisting these pirates.
Be patient and wait for PB to be liberated before you give 2% of your work to these ebil cutthroats.
Arent you mr. anti-fa? Now you are begging to join them. Speaks volumes about your principals doesn't it.
You're need more than a claoked Crow to take our station chuckles. You might actually have to stay logged on.
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Cpt Pugwash
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Posted - 2005.03.18 21:17:00 -
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Originally by: Lord Draco
Arent you mr. anti-fa? Now you are begging to join them. Speaks volumes about your principals doesn't it.
You're need more than a claoked Crow to take our station chuckles. You might actually have to stay logged on.
Typical Shinra, I state a few facts you come back with this BS.
Yes I have been anti FA in the past, but when push comes to shove there are worse things in Eve then Fountain Alliance. I have been anti ATUK and Shinra since long before I ever saw a Fountain pilot.
I remeber Shinra lies leading upto the first CFS / CA war. I remember Lallante's lies especially.
As for your second comment, why don't you check Eve-kills.com to see what an idiot you just made of yourself, I am not in a crow and i manage to stay logged on long enough to kill plenty of Shinra and their mining buddies.
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Lord Draco
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Posted - 2005.03.18 21:26:00 -
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Originally by: Cpt Pugwash
Originally by: Lord Draco
Arent you mr. anti-fa? Now you are begging to join them. Speaks volumes about your principals doesn't it.
You're need more than a claoked Crow to take our station chuckles. You might actually have to stay logged on.
Typical Shinra, I state a few facts you come back with this BS.
Yes I have been anti FA in the past, but when push comes to shove there are worse things in Eve then Fountain Alliance. I have been anti ATUK and Shinra since long before I ever saw a Fountain pilot.
I remeber Shinra lies leading upto the first CFS / CA war. I remember Lallante's lies especially.
As for your second comment, why don't you check Eve-kills.com to see what an idiot you just made of yourself, I am not in a crow and i manage to stay logged on long enough to kill plenty of Shinra and their mining buddies.
Are you still mad about us killing your entire fleet that was coming to attack us in Fountain? If so, get over it.
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siim
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Posted - 2005.03.18 21:27:00 -
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keep it friendly :P
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