From a non elitist working type, eve takes time, unlike many MMO you need bit of time to skill up for all you want to do, if it seems that long time players are snobs (some are give you that) but realize you don't understand where they're coming from, you trust people here you often get screwed over and finding all the juicy spots is a matter of 1. You go explore, 2. Have connections with players, 3. Read online, sure there's super rich players that's what happens when you skill up and have a plan, or buy your way to the top, but to be honest it sounds like eve may not be for you. Good luck.

What now man??? I did those horribly uninformative training missions...what now? Those things cover like, 2% of the info you need in EvE.

For starters are there any OTHER large scale training corps like EvE University? Respect to what they do but the application process to my real life university was quicker and simpler.

Be thankful you had the tutorials, a lot of people started when the tutorials consisted of "here's a spaceship, now go die in a fire"

Personally I would start with the basics & ISK the guide, they're about as close to a manual for Eve as you will find.

The Eve Uni Wiki is also a good resource for stuff, so is youtube believe it or not.

Once you get your feet under the table with a little bit of ISK behind you Red Vs Blue is fantastic for casual PvP, it's 2 corps in a forever war with each other, they have rules regarding podding and ECM but those go out of the window when a 3rd party decides they want some easy kills, and then get their asses handed to them. They also run regular roams into losec and nullsec that are open to anybody, primary purpose is to kill as much as possible before going out in a blaze of glory (google for RvB Ganked).

Eve Uni has already been mentioned, application process is a nightmare.

The Clusterfuck Coalition & the Honey Badger Coalition both have very good noob programs, the 2 main corps only recruit from their external communities , they're both worth looking at even if you don't have a Reddit or Something Awful account because many of their alliance partners recruit from within the game.

Never Ever part with ingame cash to join a corp, if you do you'll have been scammed, you'll get laughed at and devs will do nothing because scamming is allowed here, any comebacks will have to be at the end of your own guns.

I want to have fun.

My interests mainly lie in PvP, but I'd like to LEARN about everything I can. Just seems like the information is all over the place.

Eve players generally are people who can figure things out for themselves, and usually want to as well.

Nonsense. Everyone uses the same fits and tactics, and people who actually do try and figure things out for themselves get ridiculed for not doing things 'right'.

I want to have fun.

My interests mainly lie in PvP, but I'd like to LEARN about everything I can. Just seems like the information is all over the place.

Take ammo for instance. I can't really seem to find a SOLID place that will just tell me all about ammo in game. The pros and cons of each, blah blah blah. I've listened to some E Uni lectures in their archives, but they don't get into detail.

can someone give a quick rundown of who the Clusterfuck Coalition and Honeybadger coalitions are? Because I'm pretty sure they wont show up under People and Place" with those names. Google just gives a bunch of forum posts with their name in them.

6)Rancer is gate camped and you will die in a fire ALWAYS.

I'm sorry,

I didn't read all of the posts as most of them were typical "General Discussion" flames. Thus I apologies if I repeat information.




The entirety of my advice for surviving past your first six months in eve is the following.

1) Instead of going to General Discussion. Go to either:
-Help Channel in game:
-New Citizens Q&A on the forum: This place is for players who are new and for players who are looking to help new players get going in new Eden. Seriously the atmosphere is entirely different there.

2) Drop any expectations of learning everything you need to in E.V.E. The best part of the game is the extreme level of specialization that arises in almost every area. No-one in game can do even a third of the available tasks besides the oldest of 03' players with many, many accounts.

3) Join a corporation using the in game Corporation finder that I believe the tutorial points you towards. Eve is a game of numbers; Number of ships, ammo, guns, people, resources, time, and experiences. You will learn and accomplish far more through the slow absorption of information from players who know more than you, than you ever will from un-guided googling.

4) Don't stress over not knowing something in particular. Just focus on the very basics of what you think you want to know. Ask the general question in help chat, to your corporation, or on the new citizens Q&A.

What you should know to survive E.V.E in general

5)Don't fly what you can't afford to replace

6)Rancer is gate camped and you will die in a fire ALWAYS.

7)Jita contracts are largely scams

8)If it seems too good to be true, it probably is.

9)If someone takes from your can, they are trying to agress you. Don't let them unless you are expecting a fight.

10)Fly Dangerous

Thank you for basically telling me I'm not crazy for doing what I did. All the folks saying "GO GOOGLE NOOB" are being unreasonable.

TY also for the advice. Much appreciated.

This mentality has much to do with why our country is so screwed up. People don't want to admit they have no clue WTF they're talking about and out of pride, refuse to go to someone who does. They'd instead rather take the hard route" and "just figure it out". If you MUST, fine. But you don't.

Is there a streamlined, one stop shop site to go to to learn the game? Damage types, ships, glossary of terms, etc???

Yeah, no, I don't take disrespect. Those that was offered advice and constructive criticism I thank. THose who come here to flex their egos to bash a new player to make themselves feel superior in some way I insult right back.

See this is what I'm talking about. Right here.

"YEAH, I'M BIG BAD EVE PLAYER, AND I CRUSH U NOOBS. YOU WONT LAST LONG HERE. GRRRRRR"


You're probably some 120 pound ginger with freckles dude, f**k out of here with that elitist, tough guy crap dude.

All I'm asking for is information. If that makes me "weak" then so be it, but please can the tough guy **** man you're not fooling anyone. I bet if we go back, we'd find out you got helped when you started out. No idea why punk asses like you go around acting like you were flying titans after 5 days of play when you started.

What now man??? I did those horribly uninformative training missions...what now? Those things cover like, 2% of the info you need in EvE.

For starters are there any OTHER large scale training corps like EvE University? Respect to what they do but the application process to my real life university was quicker and simpler.

Is there a streamlined, one stop shop site to go to to learn the game? Damage types, ships, glossary of terms, etc??? Seems like there are like 5,000 diff resources and many of them conflict. It shouldn't feel like I'm studying for the friggin LSAT while trying to learn a video game....this ridiculous. I don't mind taking time to learn but holy crap.

(Fully expect SOME exp players to flame for this. I'm used to it. People get exp then act like they've forgotten how it is to be new and get some sort of ego boost from trashing new players. I deal with losers like this IRL all of the time, so it's no big deal).

So yeah...I'm basically just trying to streamline this whole learning process. What are some good Corps to join to learn? Good places to go to learn the VERY basics of the game.

I also notice that this game, unfortunately like many MMOs is very exclusive. The exp players have all of the money, items, influence and pretty much make it impossible for newer players to get in and learn through them. So we pretty much have to figure it out. My SP aren't even in the 7 digits yet....some corps are asking for 50 million SP minimums??? How high does it go?

You basically can't join a decent corp until you have that much SP??? So I basically have to play by myself until then? If so then this'll just be a little side hobby until something else comes out. A friend of mine referred me to this game, but he stopped playing. Not going to pay just to log in, put some skills in queue then log off, which is basically all I do now., and have been doing for the last 2 weeks. If this is how it is up until the millions point in SP then...yeah....not for me.

Another idiot post

unfrotunatley i wouldnt bother mate

find another game

im already looking for one

ive been re-started playing three months after a 5 year break n im still cojnfused as ever

bascially unless u have exp friends, eve is a **** game with no prospects

u either become an elitist prick pvpers or u quit

that is eve

Your opinions suck. Quit posting you ******* whiner. Go cry about another mmo that you cant play because you refuse to make friends.