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Gorgeous Dre
State War Academy
Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.10.14 14:44:00 -
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What now man??? I did those horribly uninformative training missions...what now? Those things cover like, 2% of the info you need in EvE.
For starters are there any OTHER large scale training corps like EvE University? Respect to what they do but the application process to my real life university was quicker and simpler.
Is there a streamlined, one stop shop site to go to to learn the game? Damage types, ships, glossary of terms, etc??? Seems like there are like 5,000 diff resources and many of them conflict. It shouldn't feel like I'm studying for the friggin LSAT while trying to learn a video game....this ridiculous. I don't mind taking time to learn but holy crap.
(Fully expect SOME exp players to flame for this. I'm used to it. People get exp then act like they've forgotten how it is to be new and get some sort of ego boost from trashing new players. I deal with losers like this IRL all of the time, so it's no big deal).
So yeah...I'm basically just trying to streamline this whole learning process. What are some good Corps to join to learn? Good places to go to learn the VERY basics of the game.
I also notice that this game, unfortunately like many MMOs is very exclusive. The exp players have all of the money, items, influence and pretty much make it impossible for newer players to get in and learn through them. So we pretty much have to figure it out. My SP aren't even in the 7 digits yet....some corps are asking for 50 million SP minimums??? How high does it go?
You basically can't join a decent corp until you have that much SP??? So I basically have to play by myself until then? If so then this'll just be a little side hobby until something else comes out. A friend of mine referred me to this game, but he stopped playing. Not going to pay just to log in, put some skills in queue then log off, which is basically all I do now., and have been doing for the last 2 weeks. If this is how it is up until the millions point in SP then...yeah....not for me. |
Scatim Helicon
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
936
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Posted - 2012.10.14 14:46:00 -
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Serious question: what do you want to do?
Titans were never meant to be "cost effective", its a huge ****.-á- CCP Oveur, 2006
~If you want a picture of the future of WiS, imagine a spaceship, stamping on an avatar's face. Forever. |
Vipur
Heavy Metal Industrial Supply
1
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Posted - 2012.10.14 14:48:00 -
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Relax..... enjoy the sights.... and forget about trying to learn everything immediately.
Eve is a game of patience...... eternal patience....
Find a corp that accepts new players, and has a decent number of players, and enjoy the game doing what you can at your current skill level. |
Gorgeous Dre
State War Academy
Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2012.10.14 14:50:00 -
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I want to have fun.
My interests mainly lie in PvP, but I'd like to LEARN about everything I can. Just seems like the information is all over the place.
Take ammo for instance. I can't really seem to find a SOLID place that will just tell me all about ammo in game. The pros and cons of each, blah blah blah. I've listened to some E Uni lectures in their archives, but they don't get into detail. |
Athena Themis
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
35
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Posted - 2012.10.14 14:52:00 -
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This is one of the reasons why eve is such a good game. It weeds out the instant-satisfaction players. |
Vipur
Heavy Metal Industrial Supply
1
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Posted - 2012.10.14 14:53:00 -
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Try this....... probably the closest thing to a one stop shop you'll find..
Eve-wiki |
Kult Altol
Republican Industries
Epsilon Fleet
140
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Posted - 2012.10.14 14:54:00 -
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Gorgeous Dre wrote:I want to have fun.
My interests mainly lie in PvP, but I'd like to LEARN about everything I can. Just seems like the information is all over the place.
Take ammo for instance. I can't really seem to find a SOLID place that will just tell me all about ammo in game. The pros and cons of each, blah blah blah. I've listened to some E Uni lectures in their archives, but they don't get into detail.
Well, don't do lasers they suck.
Also, I hope you like to read, if you want to learn you need to read alot of stuff. I suggest the forums and just google stuff if you have a question, thats how I learned the basics.
A narrow mind is a focused mind. |
Kitty Bear
Disturbed Friends Of Diazepam
Disturbed Acquaintance
87
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Posted - 2012.10.14 14:54:00 -
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There are people who are extremely knowledgable about EvE, that have played for many years ...
Even they say "I'm still learning stuff"
some free advice
google --> "eve online [insert your text here]" |
Taranius De Consolville
Curse Of The Chosen
243
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Posted - 2012.10.14 14:57:00 -
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Athena Themis wrote:This is one of the reasons why eve is such a good game. It weeds out the instant-satisfaction players.
Another idiot post
unfrotunatley i wouldnt bother mate
find another game
im already looking for one
ive been re-started playing three months after a 5 year break n im still cojnfused as ever
bascially unless u have exp friends, eve is a **** game with no prospects
u either become an elitist prick pvpers or u quit
that is eve |
Undeniable Chuck
Forced Penetration
3
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Posted - 2012.10.14 14:58:00 -
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Gorgeous Dre wrote:I want to have fun.
My interests mainly lie in PvP, but I'd like to LEARN about everything I can. Just seems like the information is all over the place.
Take ammo for instance. I can't really seem to find a SOLID place that will just tell me all about ammo in game. The pros and cons of each, blah blah blah. I've listened to some E Uni lectures in their archives, but they don't get into detail.
Hi my friend. Do you have an account on Somethingawful or Reddit? If so, then you should join Goons or TEST. They are the best newbie training organizations in the game. Your observations about Eve University are pretty much standard, and its really not a great place to learn how to pvp because of their overbearing rules and restrictions. I recommend checking our the Eve Uni wiki though, as it is a good public resource (Goon and TEST wikis are much better, but unfortunately private). As far as joining corps, I would check out the recruitment forums on this website. For every "elitepvp" corp that requires 50m sp, there are many who take newbies and nurture them. Do some reading on there, and you can find a good match that suits your TZ and interests. |
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Gorgeous Dre
State War Academy
Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.10.14 14:59:00 -
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Athena Themis wrote:This is one of the reasons why eve is such a good game. It weeds out the instant-satisfaction players.
Where in my post did I ask for instant satisfaction?
"Weed out"???
Feel like one of the "Cool Kids" now huh?
"Take THAT you jocks and cheerleaders from High School!!!"
Have sex dude.
Why in God's name would someone WANT people to be excluded in an MMORPG??? Wouldn't you WANT new players to be able to learn more efficiently (which is all I asked for)?
If not for us, who are you going to shoot at? Sell to? Pirate? (I'm seeing countless threads of exp folks complaining about how empty nullsec is). Don't you want to ATTRACT more people??? I just don't get this "I only want 10-20 special snowflakes like me to play this game" mentality.
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Sturmwolke
297
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Posted - 2012.10.14 14:59:00 -
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Read - http://community.eveonline.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&nbid=73399
Try not to drown 
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Kinis Deren
EVE University
Ivy League
71
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Posted - 2012.10.14 15:00:00 -
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Gorgeous Dre wrote:I want to have fun.
My interests mainly lie in PvP, but I'd like to LEARN about everything I can. Just seems like the information is all over the place.
Take ammo for instance. I can't really seem to find a SOLID place that will just tell me all about ammo in game. The pros and cons of each, blah blah blah. I've listened to some E Uni lectures in their archives, but they don't get into detail.
Although I think E-UNI is a great place to learn the game, RvB is also highly recommended too. I started last year and found Korgan Nailo's ready reference sheet a "must have" until the information becoame second nature.
Even if you don't join E-UNI, remember that E-UNI resources on the Uniwiki are available to all. I highly recommend the recorded classes section for whatever in the game takes your fancy.
Good luck capsuleer, fly frosty :salute: |
Solstice Project
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
1814
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Posted - 2012.10.14 15:02:00 -
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You won't last long in this game ... and that's probably not even a bad thing ...
Inappropriate signature removed. Spitfire |
Athena Themis
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
35
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Posted - 2012.10.14 15:03:00 -
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Taranius De Consolville wrote:Athena Themis wrote:This is one of the reasons why eve is such a good game. It weeds out the instant-satisfaction players. Another idiot post unfrotunatley i wouldnt bother mate find another game im already looking for one ive been re-started playing three months after a 5 year break n im still cojnfused as ever bascially unless u have exp friends, eve is a **** game with no prospects u either become an elitist prick pvpers or u quit that is eve
HAHAHAAH THE TEARS |
Gorgeous Dre
State War Academy
Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2012.10.14 15:03:00 -
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Undeniable Chuck wrote:Gorgeous Dre wrote:I want to have fun.
My interests mainly lie in PvP, but I'd like to LEARN about everything I can. Just seems like the information is all over the place.
Take ammo for instance. I can't really seem to find a SOLID place that will just tell me all about ammo in game. The pros and cons of each, blah blah blah. I've listened to some E Uni lectures in their archives, but they don't get into detail. Hi my friend. Do you have an account on Somethingawful or Reddit? If so, then you should join Goons or TEST. They are the best newbie training organizations in the game. Your observations about Eve University are pretty much standard, and its really not a great place to learn how to pvp because of their overbearing rules and restrictions. I recommend checking our the Eve Uni wiki though, as it is a good public resource (Goon and TEST wikis are much better, but unfortunately private). As far as joining corps, I would check out the recruitment forums on this website. For every "elitepvp" corp that requires 50m sp, there are many who take newbies and nurture them. Do some reading on there, and you can find a good match that suits your TZ and interests.
As much a I appreciate your advice ( I truly do), I am slightly uncomfortable being stared at that way by a man in a corp with that name...
I sure hope I don't run into you in some dark asteroid belt some day.... |
Gorgeous Dre
State War Academy
Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2012.10.14 15:06:00 -
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Solstice Project wrote:You won't last long in this game ... and that's probably not even a bad thing ...
See this is what I'm talking about. Right here.
"YEAH, I'M BIG BAD EVE PLAYER, AND I CRUSH U NOOBS. YOU WONT LAST LONG HERE. GRRRRRR"
You're probably some 120 pound ginger with freckles dude, f**k out of here with that elitist, tough guy crap dude.
All I'm asking for is information. If that makes me "weak" then so be it, but please can the tough guy **** man you're not fooling anyone. I bet if we go back, we'd find out you got helped when you started out. No idea why punk asses like you go around acting like you were flying titans after 5 days of play when you started. |
J Kunjeh
408
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Posted - 2012.10.14 15:08:00 -
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Try this, it's free:
http://www.isktheguide.com/
And then read some here:
http://jestertrek.blogspot.com/
"The world as we know it came about through an anomaly (anomou)"
(The Gospel of Philip, 1-5)-á |
Vipur
Heavy Metal Industrial Supply
2
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Posted - 2012.10.14 15:08:00 -
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Kinis Deren wrote:Gorgeous Dre wrote:I want to have fun.
My interests mainly lie in PvP, but I'd like to LEARN about everything I can. Just seems like the information is all over the place.
Take ammo for instance. I can't really seem to find a SOLID place that will just tell me all about ammo in game. The pros and cons of each, blah blah blah. I've listened to some E Uni lectures in their archives, but they don't get into detail. Although I think E-UNI is a great place to learn the game, RvB is also highly recommended too. I started last year and found Korgan Nailo's ready reference sheet a "must have" until the information became second nature. Even if you don't join E-UNI, remember that E-UNI resources on the Uniwiki are available to all. I highly recommend the recorded classes section for whatever in the game takes your fancy. Good luck capsuleer, fly frosty :salute:
That is the best reference sheet I've ever seen...... learn something new every day
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Athena Themis
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
35
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Posted - 2012.10.14 15:11:00 -
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Gorgeous Dre wrote:Athena Themis wrote:This is one of the reasons why eve is such a good game. It weeds out the instant-satisfaction players. Where in my post did I ask for instant satisfaction? "Weed out"??? Feel like one of the "Cool Kids" now huh? "Take THAT you jocks and cheerleaders from High School!!!" Have sex dude. Why in God's name would someone WANT people to be excluded in an MMORPG??? Wouldn't you WANT new players to be able to learn more efficiently (which is all I asked for)? If not for us, who are you going to shoot at? Sell to? Pirate? (I'm seeing countless threads of exp folks complaining about how empty nullsec is). Don't you want to ATTRACT more people??? I just don't get this "I only want 10-20 special snowflakes like me to play this game" mentality.
It isn't about wanting people to be exluded. The point is you're complaining about the difficulty you're having learning the game and yet you are unwilling to read, ask questions in the proper forums, or put any effort into learning these things yourself. Basically you want it to be handed to you. That is a laugh.
What university did you get in to whose application process was less intensive than EVE Uni? Was it a good one? |
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Solstice Project
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
1815
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Posted - 2012.10.14 15:11:00 -
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I tell you what.
I have started this game solo. I have read guides and tutorials about game mechanics for the first
two weeks straight, while i ignored the tutorials and just skilled for a hauler, bought one and
started hauling stuff through systems, including lowsec.
I never had anybody hold my hand and i never had anybody help me. I always found a way to find
out what i can do, what can be done, what can't be done and how to find the appropriate information.
I never cared about what others did and i definitely had no need to think in categories of "will i mine,
or will i mission, will i do exploration ?" ... i just did what the tools i had enabled me to do !
There's, besides http://wiki.eveonline.com, tons of information out there ... some might be inaccurate,
but most definitely isn't. There are guides out there and there's all the ingame information and youtube tutorials.
What the **** is wrong with you ?
Others made it too, why can't you ??
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Gorgeous Dre
State War Academy
Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2012.10.14 15:12:00 -
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PLEASE keep posting the resources guys...I know I'm not the only noob with this problem.
and tyvm to those that contribute. Any constructive advice is welcome and appreciated. |
Gorgeous Dre
State War Academy
Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2012.10.14 15:14:00 -
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Solstice Project wrote:I tell you what. I have started this game solo. I have read guides and tutorials about game mechanics for the first two weeks straight, while i ignored the in-game-tutorial-missions and just skilled for a hauler, bought one and started hauling stuff through systems, including lowsec. I never had anybody hold my hand and i never had anybody help me. I always found a way to find out what i can do, what can be done, what can't be done and how to find the appropriate information. I never cared about what others did and i definitely had no need to think in categories of "will i mine, or will i mission, will i do exploration ?" ... i just did what the tools i had enabled me to do ! There's, besides http://wiki.eveonline.com, tons of information out there ... some might be inaccurate, but most definitely isn't. There are guides out there and there's all the ingame information and youtube tutorials. What the **** is wrong with you ? Others made it too, why can't you ??
I call some serious BS dude, I'm sorry. I just have to.
"YEAH BRO, I DIDN'T HAVE ANY HELP AT ALL, I COULDN'T EVEN SWIM, I JUST JUMPED IN THE POOL AND ALMOST DROWNED....THAT'S HOW I LEARNED *FLEX MUSCLES*"
K bro.
You had help. ANd there's nothing wrong with that. You're the type of guy that'll end up in China before he admits he made a wrong turn and is lost. |
Gorgeous Dre
State War Academy
Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2012.10.14 15:16:00 -
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Athena Themis wrote:Gorgeous Dre wrote:Athena Themis wrote:This is one of the reasons why eve is such a good game. It weeds out the instant-satisfaction players. Where in my post did I ask for instant satisfaction? "Weed out"??? Feel like one of the "Cool Kids" now huh? "Take THAT you jocks and cheerleaders from High School!!!" Have sex dude. Why in God's name would someone WANT people to be excluded in an MMORPG??? Wouldn't you WANT new players to be able to learn more efficiently (which is all I asked for)? If not for us, who are you going to shoot at? Sell to? Pirate? (I'm seeing countless threads of exp folks complaining about how empty nullsec is). Don't you want to ATTRACT more people??? I just don't get this "I only want 10-20 special snowflakes like me to play this game" mentality. It isn't about wanting people to be exluded. The point is you're complaining about the difficulty you're having learning the game and yet you are unwilling to read, ask questions in the proper forums, or put any effort into learning these things yourself. Basically you want it to be handed to you. That is a laugh. What university did you get in to whose application process was less intensive than EVE Uni? Was it a good one?
Dude...the WHOLE F**KING POINT OF THE OP WAS ME ASKING FOR RESOURCES TO F**KING READ TO LEARN!!!
....I'm done with you....
What's the point...?
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Athena Themis
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
35
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Posted - 2012.10.14 15:18:00 -
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Gorgeous Dre wrote:Solstice Project wrote:I tell you what. I have started this game solo. I have read guides and tutorials about game mechanics for the first two weeks straight, while i ignored the in-game-tutorial-missions and just skilled for a hauler, bought one and started hauling stuff through systems, including lowsec. I never had anybody hold my hand and i never had anybody help me. I always found a way to find out what i can do, what can be done, what can't be done and how to find the appropriate information. I never cared about what others did and i definitely had no need to think in categories of "will i mine, or will i mission, will i do exploration ?" ... i just did what the tools i had enabled me to do ! There's, besides http://wiki.eveonline.com, tons of information out there ... some might be inaccurate, but most definitely isn't. There are guides out there and there's all the ingame information and youtube tutorials. What the **** is wrong with you ? Others made it too, why can't you ?? I call some serious BS dude, I'm sorry. I just have to. "YEAH BRO, I DIDN'T HAVE ANY HELP AT ALL, I COULDN'T EVEN SWIM, I JUST JUMPED IN THE POOL AND ALMOST DROWNED....THAT'S HOW I LEARNED *FLEX MUSCLES*" K bro. You had help. ANd there's nothing wrong with that. You're the type of guy that'll end up in China before he admits he made a wrong turn and is lost.
I'm sure most eve players actually did begin like that. That's how eve is. Eve players generally are people who can figure things out for themselves, and usually want to as well. If you want things handed to you, you're playing the wrong game.
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Shederov Blood
Wrecketeers
27
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Posted - 2012.10.14 15:19:00 -
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This one's got a bit of an attitude.  |
Athena Themis
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
35
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Posted - 2012.10.14 15:20:00 -
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Gorgeous Dre wrote:Athena Themis wrote:Gorgeous Dre wrote:Athena Themis wrote:This is one of the reasons why eve is such a good game. It weeds out the instant-satisfaction players. Where in my post did I ask for instant satisfaction? "Weed out"??? Feel like one of the "Cool Kids" now huh? "Take THAT you jocks and cheerleaders from High School!!!" Have sex dude. Why in God's name would someone WANT people to be excluded in an MMORPG??? Wouldn't you WANT new players to be able to learn more efficiently (which is all I asked for)? If not for us, who are you going to shoot at? Sell to? Pirate? (I'm seeing countless threads of exp folks complaining about how empty nullsec is). Don't you want to ATTRACT more people??? I just don't get this "I only want 10-20 special snowflakes like me to play this game" mentality. It isn't about wanting people to be exluded. The point is you're complaining about the difficulty you're having learning the game and yet you are unwilling to read, ask questions in the proper forums, or put any effort into learning these things yourself. Basically you want it to be handed to you. That is a laugh. What university did you get in to whose application process was less intensive than EVE Uni? Was it a good one? Dude...the WHOLE F**KING POINT OF THE OP WAS ME ASKING FOR RESOURCES TO F**KING READ TO LEARN!!! ....I'm done with you.... What's the point...?
LOL the OP was a gigantic whine post. It wasn't even very subtle either. |
Piugattuk
CLOROFLORFILAPLANKTONPLATES
71
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Posted - 2012.10.14 15:21:00 -
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From a non elitist working type, eve takes time, unlike many MMO you need bit of time to skill up for all you want to do, if it seems that long time players are snobs (some are give you that) but realize you don't understand where they're coming from, you trust people here you often get screwed over and finding all the juicy spots is a matter of 1. You go explore, 2. Have connections with players, 3. Read online, sure there's super rich players that's what happens when you skill up and have a plan, or buy your way to the top, but to be honest it sounds like eve may not be for you. Good luck. |
Gorgeous Dre
State War Academy
Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2012.10.14 15:23:00 -
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Shederov Blood wrote:This one's got a bit of an attitude.
Yeah, no, I don't take disrespect. Those that was offered advice and constructive criticism I thank. THose who come here to flex their egos to bash a new player to make themselves feel superior in some way I insult right back. |
Solstice Project
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
1816
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Posted - 2012.10.14 15:23:00 -
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Gorgeous Dre wrote:I call some serious BS dude, I'm sorry. I just have to.
"YEAH BRO, I DIDN'T HAVE ANY HELP AT ALL, I COULDN'T EVEN SWIM, I JUST JUMPED IN THE POOL AND ALMOST DROWNED....THAT'S HOW I LEARNED *FLEX MUSCLES*"
K bro.
You had help. ANd there's nothing wrong with that. You're the type of guy that'll end up in China before he admits he made a wrong turn and is lost.
No i hadn't. I am just able to find information myself.
I can use a search engine. I can figure out what search terms to use.
I have invested countless hours in learning how this game works,
because i don't want any help, because i know i don't need it !
I have a brain and i can use it !
You're projecting your own incapabilities onto others. You're deliberately ignoring that
there are hundreds of people in this game that have made it all by themselves.
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