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Miss England	Posted - 2005.03.22 12:17:00 - [1] Currently five agents are all researching L4 Caldari Engineering. On average, without any missions being done they bring in a combined 1400 RP's per day split across the five agents. No BPO's have been offered, absolutely nothing. I am not greedy and TBH would be delighted with just one, but at what point does this happen? I think bucket loads of training has been done for nothing. Can anyone post some serioius expetations on when to hope for an offer (how many points etc)? I am just wondering a what point should my expetations be reasonable during this god forsaken lottery.
Discorporation	Posted - 2005.03.22 12:18:00 - [2] You are not entitled to a BPO. You may never even get one [Heterocephalus glaber]
Steven Dynahir	Posted - 2005.03.22 12:19:00 - [3] Takes about 2.3 years with 1400RP/day. SigPl/HQ&Log Coy/MNB(C)/KFOR
Falbala	Posted - 2005.03.22 12:25:00 - [4] I am waiting since May last year for a T2 BPO.
Aelius	Posted - 2005.03.22 12:30:00 - [5] 400K in CSE here and no BPO You don't see me complaining do you It's a matter of luck. Research only gives you better chances on that "luck". I simpatize with you so don't see my post as a flame, my fellow researcher. Selling Raven BPC ME20 3M at Yulai 1st Station
bsspewer	Posted - 2005.03.22 12:48:00 - [6] Originally by: Steven Dynahir Takes about 2.3 years with 1400RP/day. he is correct. and at that rate, after those 2.3 years you'll be offered the small damage control system mod tech 2.
Falbala	Posted - 2005.03.22 12:57:00 - [7] In 2 years T3 will be out hopefully .
Schani Kratnorr	Posted - 2005.03.22 13:50:00 - [8] Current system = delivers realtively low number of originals into the game = not fun for most people => people yawning => people leaving... -- "I am an expert in not caring. The trick is to stop giving a rat's ass about anyone else and start thinking about what YOU want, what YOU diserve, what the world ows YOU!" - Bender
Bobbeh	Posted - 2005.03.22 13:58:00 - [9] Why dont they give out BPC's? Mimiru > It'd be a tie, the monkies nerfed pooflinger wouldnt have enough tracking to hit the parrot orbiting him, but the parrot's beak is so small it couldnt break the monkey's fur tanking.
Jim Steele	Posted - 2005.03.22 15:12:00 - [10] Well i hate to break it to you but caldari starship engineerig is one of the most over researched fields out there. Its a lottery so you may never win. Death to the Galante
Gan Ning	Posted - 2005.03.22 15:20:00 - [11] Edited by: Gan Ning on 22/03/2005 15:21:40 Originally by: Bobbeh Why dont they give out BPC's? I would agree with this. Limited run BPCs that you can trade RP's for would be an excellent idea. I have had a lv3 research agent since they were released over a year ago and have about 90k RPs with him yet not even a sniff of a bpo. Which is sad as ive seen someone who got a t2 bpo and only had an agent for 2 weeks.
Gadjet	Posted - 2005.03.22 16:02:00 - [12] I have over 120k RP's and still haven't had a bean But it's always good to know that there are some people in Eve, who get print drop with as little a 10k RP's
Miss England	Posted - 2005.03.22 16:07:00 - [13] Well this is fantastic news, thanks to everyone for their replies. I know that I am not expecting something that realistically is not going to happen anytime soon so the logging on and checking Eve-Mail syndrome is better to be run with zero hope (and oneday get lucky) then logging on half hoping for a BPC. To know that people have way more points then me, I feel for you as with about 50,000 in total myself across all the agents I have nowhere near travelled the roads of disappointment you all have. Let's hope one day, we're all lucky. :D
John Blackthorn	Posted - 2005.03.22 16:17:00 - [14] I think many of us are just like you. I also have 5 agents doing caldari starship enginerring. There again the agents that I have don't offer anything but that. -BT
Sybylle	Posted - 2005.03.22 16:20:00 - [15] HINTS : It's a lottery... So : -buy a ticket with each character you can -cross your fingers -wait...and don't expect to win I've let my agent die, without doing any mission for him. I firstly was offered a small smartbomb II within a few months (I told my agent to stick it in his black hole). I've waited 1 year more and got a Tachyon Beam Laser II...I've sold it. But we produce them anyway if you are interested (check sig) So...don't expect for a timeframe...Just wait (\_/) (O.o) (> <)=Oveur (proof) "Jumping 50 systems I can like, have sex 150 times during that period"
Arud	Posted - 2005.03.22 16:24:00 - [16] I had about 35k points when I got my Kernite Mining Crystal T2 bpo Friend of mine had about 3k points when he got his medium blaster thingum t2 bpo Some people have 200k+ and have gotten nothing
Mon Palae	Posted - 2005.03.22 16:38:00 - [17] Originally by: Arud I had about 35k points when I got my Kernite Mining Crystal T2 bpo Friend of mine had about 3k points when he got his medium blaster thingum t2 bpo Some people have 200k+ and have gotten nothing Mate of mine got...I forget what...some T-II BPO (shield booster maybe) with ~3,000 RP. Started a new agent, had ~80 RP and got an Interceptor BPO (kidjanot). Me...1+ years and ~50k with one agent and no BPO.
Mon Palae	Posted - 2005.03.22 16:54:00 - [18] I should note in my case above there seemed to be a glitch in the BPO handouts that allowed people with a new agent to pull down a BPO almost immediately. CCP denied anything was wrong but looked at it closely a few times as there were piles of anecdotal evidence to suggest something was wrong. To my knowledge CCP never copped to there ever being a problem in this fashion but the BPO drops to people who had an agent all of a week seemed to stop (or at least diminsh a lot).
Jacque Custeau	Posted - 2005.03.22 17:19:00 - [19] I have 6 agents researching Minmatar Starship Engineering for almost a year now, and nothing Oh and to Discorporation, I understand the odds, what I don't understand is people winning multiple t2 BPOs with the kind of odds they claim exist. I never received a satisfactory explaination for this (and don't say they are really really really lucky - in Vegas they have names for people like that)
Mon Palae	Posted - 2005.03.22 17:37:00 - [20] Originally by: Jacque Custeau ...and don't say they are really really really lucky - in Vegas they have names for people like that) In Vegas you get "politely" asked to leave. If you ignore that polite request things can get rather ugly for you.
Foomanshoe	Posted - 2005.03.22 17:56:00 - [21] I've been researching with a L3 agent since they were released and nada here. So short answer, you wont necissarily get anything. Almost everyone researches something. and that means you got alot of competition over just a few blueprints that are released. Best way to get them is to buy em. _______________________________________________
Aelius	Posted - 2005.03.22 18:04:00 - [22] Originally by: Jacque Custeau I have 6 agents researching Minmatar Starship Engineering for almost a year now, and nothing Oh and to Discorporation, I understand the odds, what I don't understand is people winning multiple t2 BPOs with the kind of odds they claim exist. I never received a satisfactory explaination for this (and don't say they are really really really lucky - in Vegas they have names for people like that) Did you already thought about joining a dedicated R&D corp? Selling Raven BPC ME20 3M at Yulai 1st Station
Shittake	Posted - 2005.03.22 18:30:00 - [23] I have 10 R&D agents across 2 characters and have received 4 BPOs so far. The first BPO (10mn Afterburner 2) arrived about 4 months into research. The next 3 BPOs (Med Pulse Laser 2, Dual Heavy Beam Laser 2, and Oneiros Support Cruiser) all came within 6 weeks of each other after 10 months of research. I takes a while, I would suggest NOT to go all Starship research because as a previous poster to this thread said, they are overresearched. Oh, and by the way, I never visit my agents. I work up standings to get the best L3 agent or a pretty good L4 agent and never visit them unless a breakthrough happens. There should be a better way, but the lottery is all we have.
Phades	Posted - 2005.03.22 21:26:00 - [24] It would be nice if the science skills benefited the character in another way other than opening up the option to perform research. This could include, but not be limited to, affecting baseline stats of items manufactured by the character. With the character having knowledge of such areas, it wouldnt be beyond reason to think that they could modify something they create in a similar fashion that other skills work, when the item is in use. Something like this could lead to quasi named items and things that would lie in function somewhere between tech 1 and tech 2. Have the items to be modified to have a set number of skills that can affect them and only allow a limited number of them to alter the properties. So that it wouldnt be just getting more skills to have something better than the next guy, but possibly a little different. For example, with a weapon perhaps be able to adjust its base properties similar to any of the gunnery skills and expand the ammo capacity, but the player could only pick one or two options, depending on the skills available and the amount of benefit gained would be linked directly to the science skill involved.
Aboath Greydroggen	Posted - 2005.03.23 01:01:00 - [25] Quote: This could include, but not be limited to, affecting baseline stats of items manufactured by the character... That would be the Reverse engenering option that has been floating in the background ever since beta.
Naal Morno	Posted - 2005.03.23 03:34:00 - [26] The first time you take 7days+ vacations. Your Heavy Neutron Blaster II perfectly strikes Serpentis Chief Sentinel, wrecking for 660.4 damage.
ollobrains	Posted - 2005.03.23 03:41:00 - [27] set and forget or at least then go and raise some ISK to pay for the ongoing costs of the rental slots lol

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