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Arch Stanton's Neighbour Forceful Resource Acquisition Inc 24	Posted - 2012.10.16 16:24:00 - [1] - Quote PVP is only a single aspect of this game which is touted as a "do what you want" sandbox yet those of us that enjoy other aspects of it are excluded from participating in tourneys. I propose CCP would organize tourneys catering for the other professions as well. They could be on smaller scale and smaller prizes. The trials could be: Fastest attack on a 10/10 plex or incursion site Fastest delivery of courier packages, both regular and jump freighter Fastest salvage of a field of wrecks Fastest probing down of a group of anomalies Fastest gathering of resources to produce certain items, or who can build the most in a given amount of time Fastest mining of a belt These are just some ideas. I believe they are all very competitive and dependant on player skill and most importantly coordination between a group of players. This is just one person's opinion, but to me watching a match of ships blowing each other up is as exciting as watching grass grow. However blitz mining is something I do and relate to and i would be interest in seeing how other groups of people would attach the same problem.
Jim Era 4899	Posted - 2012.10.16 16:25:00 - [2] - Quote Why not organize your own? That is what makes it more fun.
Riot Girl RADIO RAMPAGE Initiative Mercenaries 167	Posted - 2012.10.16 16:25:00 - [3] - Quote Jim Era wrote: Why not organize your own? That is what makes it more fun. Came to post this.
Korinne The Partisan Brigade Republic Alliance 25	Posted - 2012.10.16 16:26:00 - [4] - Quote None of those ideas would make sense because they're inherently non-competitive in nature, which is why they're considered boring. That and most of the things you describe could be calculated from your skill sheet and thus negate the purpose for a tournament.
Tippia Sunshine and Lollipops 9910	Posted - 2012.10.16 16:33:00 - [5] - Quote I don't quite see the conflict in those, at least not in a way that would make for much of a spectacle. They already have a format for mining competitions, though, but its main feature is that it's just as much about depriving the opponent of mining ships as it is about actually getting the oreGÇª GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥ Get a good start: newbie skill plan.
Bane Necran 526	Posted - 2012.10.16 16:36:00 - [6] - Quote There doesn't need to be conflict. Look at this ridiculous stacking craze, for example. "It's no use crying over spilt milk, because all the forces of the universe were bent on spilling it." ~William Maugham
No More Heroes GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 1459	Posted - 2012.10.16 16:36:00 - [7] - Quote Arch Stanton's Neighbour wrote: Fastest mining of a belt primary target is broadcasted, put all drones on the warp disruption battery. If you are in a frigate you should be at the gate, who blew up?
James 315 Experimental Fun Times Corp 2985	Posted - 2012.10.16 16:37:00 - [8] - Quote Arch Stanton's Neighbour wrote: PVP is only a single aspect of this game which is touted as a "do what you want" sandbox yet those of us that enjoy other aspects of it are excluded from participating in tourneys. I propose CCP would organize tourneys catering for the other professions as well. They could be on smaller scale and smaller prizes. The trials could be: I don't know if a tournament would be very interesting, if the participants could compete while AFK! -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ MinerBumping.com -½-½-½-½-½-½-½-½-½-½ The daily saga of the New Order's quest to conquer all highsec by bumping miners out of range.
Petrus Blackshell Rifterlings Damu'Khonde 1827	Posted - 2012.10.16 16:43:00 - [9] - Quote Arch Stanton's Neighbour wrote: [...]"do what you want" sandbox [...] CCP organize tourneys [...] Wat. Jim Era wrote: Why not organize your own? That is what makes it more fun. This. Rifterlings - small gang frigate PvP - low/nullsec operations, newbie-friendly, free ship program; Join today! www.rifterlings.com Accidentally The Whole Frigate (blog) - Learning how to pew pew, one loss at a time - www.thewholefrigate.com
Skippermonkey Tactical Knightmare 1531	Posted - 2012.10.16 16:52:00 - [10] - Quote Arch Stanton's Neighbour wrote: PVP is only a single aspect of this game which is touted as a "do what you want" sandbox yet those of us that enjoy other aspects of it are excluded from participating in tourneys. I propose CCP would organize tourneys catering for the other professions as well. They could be on smaller scale and smaller prizes. The trials could be: Fastest attack on a 10/10 plex or incursion site Fastest delivery of courier packages, both regular and jump freighter Fastest salvage of a field of wrecks Fastest probing down of a group of anomalies Fastest gathering of resources to produce certain items, or who can build the most in a given amount of time Fastest mining of a belt These are just some ideas. I believe they are all very competitive and dependant on player skill and most importantly coordination between a group of players. This is just one person's opinion, but to me watching a match of ships blowing each other up is as exciting as watching grass grow. However blitz mining is something I do and relate to and i would be interest in seeing how other groups of people would attach the same problem. And who in the seven hells is going to be interested in watchign a bunch of people do any of that for a week? TK is recruiting
Aziesta Sathainn Braithrean Cartel Apocalypse Now. 74	Posted - 2012.10.16 16:57:00 - [11] - Quote Do they still have those frig racing events?
Skippermonkey Tactical Knightmare 1531	Posted - 2012.10.16 16:58:00 - [12] - Quote Also i find the term 'Blitz Mining' hillarious TK is recruiting
Ginger Barbarella State War Academy Caldari State 178	Posted - 2012.10.16 17:03:00 - [13] - Quote "Delivery of courier packages"?!?!!! Sweet jebus, tell me you're kidding...
Mik kyo Habitual Euthanasia Pandemic Legion 37	Posted - 2012.10.16 17:09:00 - [14] - Quote So it has come to this
Lady Ayeipsia Red Federation RvB - RED Federation 365	Posted - 2012.10.16 17:19:00 - [15] - Quote Ginger Barbarella wrote: "Delivery of courier packages"?!?!!! Sweet jebus, tell me you're kidding... Oh come on, this could be fun. Make the start and destination nul npc stations. Let people wardec the couriers, put a high reward and items in the content. I think, if done right and on a large scale, this could be interesting.
Spurty V0LTA Verge of Collapse 510	Posted - 2012.10.16 17:21:00 - [16] - Quote if you can televise that, do so and propose it again :-) PVP just happens to allow easy spectating (Can see everything from one window). ---- CONCORD arrested two n00bs yesterday, one was drinking battery acid, the other was eating fireworks. They charged one and let the other one off.
Unsuccessful At Everything The Troll Bridge 201	Posted - 2012.10.16 17:33:00 - [17] - Quote Arch Stanton's Neighbour wrote: Fastest attack on a 10/10 plex or incursion site Fastest delivery of courier packages, both regular and jump freighter Fastest salvage of a field of wrecks Fastest probing down of a group of anomalies Fastest gathering of resources to produce certain items, or who can build the most in a given amount of time Fastest mining of a belt You forgot Fastest Biomass, Fastest Ragequit, Fastest Fill up local with tears, and lastly Fastest Run to the forums and whine. *Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?*
Riot Girl RADIO RAMPAGE Initiative Mercenaries 167	Posted - 2012.10.16 17:38:00 - [18] - Quote Lady Ayeipsia wrote: Ginger Barbarella wrote: "Delivery of courier packages"?!?!!! Sweet jebus, tell me you're kidding... Oh come on, this could be fun. Make the start and destination nul npc stations. Let people wardec the couriers, put a high reward and items in the content. I think, if done right and on a large scale, this could be interesting. Each courier has a 1b ISK bounty placed on them before the race.
Tiberious Thessalonia True Slave Foundations Shaktipat Revelators 537	Posted - 2012.10.16 17:40:00 - [19] - Quote I can think of nothing I would rather watch less than a couple of people in hulks mining a belt.
Nostradamouse Riraille Blackreach. Talocan United 85	Posted - 2012.10.16 17:42:00 - [20] - Quote Tiberious Thessalonia wrote: I can think of nothing I would rather watch less than a couple of people in hulks mining a belt. They're fun to watch... When you gank them...
Kytayn Two Brothers Mining Corp. 43	Posted - 2012.10.16 18:03:00 - [21] - Quote Arch Stanton's Neighbour wrote: How about a tourney for the rest of us? You could call it "Festivus".
Lin-Young Borovskova Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 828	Posted - 2012.10.16 18:06:00 - [22] - Quote Riot Girl wrote: Jim Era wrote: Why not organize your own? That is what makes it more fun. Came to post this. Just came to quote this. Also because I want a coffee and Jack on zde rocks brb
KrakizBad Eve Defence Force Fatal Ascension 925	Posted - 2012.10.16 18:21:00 - [23] - Quote Arch Stanton's Neighbour wrote: Fastest delivery of courier packages, both regular and jump freighter Fastest mining of a belt Thrilling to behold! Think of the viewership CCP could generate by live broadcasting a mining fleet, or a freighter race. Must...align...faster! Why did you take my wings away?
Swarm Of Bees Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 8	Posted - 2012.10.16 19:23:00 - [24] - Quote Fastest attack on a 10/10 plex or incursion site - Could be legit, given certain restrictions Fastest delivery of courier packages, both regular and jump freighter - 100% based on trained skills, who can light a cyno faster Fastest salvage of a field of wrecks - 100% based on trained skills Fastest probing down of a group of anomalies - Could be legit, mostly trained skills but some player technique involved Fastest gathering of resources to produce certain items, or who can build the most in a given amount of time - 98% trained skill based Fastest mining of a belt - 100% trained skill based PvP tournaments work because although a large part of PvP is trained skills, most of it comes down to player skill. Skill at fitting, skill at creating an effective fleet composition, skill at FC, skill at manual piloting. Most of the things that you posted do not involve and player skill, only trained skills and effectively boil down to "More SP wins"
Liaria Cullen Mind Games. Suddenly Spaceships. 14	Posted - 2012.10.16 19:55:00 - [25] - Quote Arch Stanton's Neighbour wrote: Fastest mining of a belt hahaha oh god, that made me laugh in real life, we should get one of those japanese football commentators "GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOAL" everytime something exciting happens, chuck him in with MBIII. that'd be fun to watch. on a serious note, no. Everything you just listed is boring as ****, and that's not because i pvp, it's because i've done all of them, They're not something a large viewer base will ever watch, unless you get the japanese guy. They're also terribly uncompetative.
Seraphina Bibbs Caldari Provisions Caldari State 6	Posted - 2012.10.17 12:50:00 - [26] - Quote Tiberious Thessalonia wrote: I can think of nothing I would rather watch less than a couple of people in hulks mining a belt. Dude if you don't put the sarcasm tag at the end he will think you're being serious. Oh dear God I hope you aren't being serious. Liaria Cullen wrote: hahaha oh god, that made me laugh in real life, we should get one of those japanese football commentators "GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOAL" everytime something exciting happens, chuck him in with MBIII. that'd be fun to watch. While a great idea it would really be a waste of money because if he had to wait until something exciting happened before he could say it..... Well I don't remember the last time something happened when I was hauling a freighter that could be considered "exciting".
Alice Saki 11427	Posted - 2012.10.17 12:53:00 - [27] - Quote Jim Era wrote: Why not organize your own? That is what makes it more fun. Ahhh the Sandbox ^_^ Scottish Interweb Spaceshippy Person, Very Easily Confused. I like to show my Love by Smashing people in the face with a big Hammer.
Lady Ayeipsia Red Federation RvB - RED Federation 370	Posted - 2012.10.17 13:02:00 - [28] - Quote Nostradamouse Riraille wrote: Tiberious Thessalonia wrote: I can think of nothing I would rather watch less than a couple of people in hulks mining a belt. They're fun to watch... When you gank them... You lack imagination. Try miner bowling. Using 100mwd tengu/loki, who can displace the most miners and send a miner tge furthest in one bump? Miner bowling!
Tiberious Thessalonia True Slave Foundations Shaktipat Revelators 538	Posted - 2012.10.17 13:03:00 - [29] - Quote Seraphina Bibbs wrote: Tiberious Thessalonia wrote: I can think of nothing I would rather watch less than a couple of people in hulks mining a belt. Dude if you don't put the sarcasm tag at the end he will think you're being serious. Oh dear God I hope you aren't being serious. There is nothing I would rather watch LESS, not nothing I would rather watch. I mined for primary income for the first 8 months of my EVE career. I sometimes still mine. It is not something that is fun. It is, at best, 'relaxing'. That does not make for good television, basically.
Seraphina Bibbs Caldari Provisions Caldari State 6	Posted - 2012.10.17 13:04:00 - [30] - Quote Lady Ayeipsia wrote: Nostradamouse Riraille wrote: Tiberious Thessalonia wrote: I can think of nothing I would rather watch less than a couple of people in hulks mining a belt. They're fun to watch... When you gank them... You lack imagination. Try miner bowling. Using 100mwd tengu/loki, who can displace the most miners and send a miner tge furthest in one bump? Miner bowling! Now THAT I would watch.
Seraphina Bibbs Caldari Provisions Caldari State 6	Posted - 2012.10.17 13:05:00 - [31] - Quote Tiberious Thessalonia wrote: Seraphina Bibbs wrote: Tiberious Thessalonia wrote: I can think of nothing I would rather watch less than a couple of people in hulks mining a belt. Dude if you don't put the sarcasm tag at the end he will think you're being serious. Oh dear God I hope you aren't being serious. There is nothing I would rather watch LESS, not nothing I would rather watch. I mined for primary income for the first 8 months of my EVE career. I sometimes still mine. It is not something that is fun. It is, at best, 'relaxing'. That does not make for good television, basically. I was kidding....It was a joke.... Dammit I forgot my own humor/joke/sarcasm tag.... I need more coffee.
Tiberious Thessalonia True Slave Foundations Shaktipat Revelators 538	Posted - 2012.10.17 13:07:00 - [32] - Quote Seraphina Bibbs wrote: Tiberious Thessalonia wrote: Seraphina Bibbs wrote: Tiberious Thessalonia wrote: I can think of nothing I would rather watch less than a couple of people in hulks mining a belt. Dude if you don't put the sarcasm tag at the end he will think you're being serious. Oh dear God I hope you aren't being serious. There is nothing I would rather watch LESS, not nothing I would rather watch. I mined for primary income for the first 8 months of my EVE career. I sometimes still mine. It is not something that is fun. It is, at best, 'relaxing'. That does not make for good television, basically. I was kidding....It was a joke.... Dammit I forgot my own humor/joke/sarcasm tag.... I need more coffee. Sorry, I thought you just misread ;) "And now JimmyMiner1 has finished his asteroid and is targetting another one! He dumps the ore into JimmyOrca1! Oh my god I think he's pulling ahead! WAIT NO! BillyMiner1 has started targetting the same asteroid as JimmyMiner! IT'S A RACE TO SEE WHO CAN MINE THE ROID FASTER!!!"
Alice Saki 11434	Posted - 2012.10.17 13:12:00 - [33] - Quote Seraphina Bibbs wrote: I need more coffee. :D Scottish Interweb Spaceshippy Person, Very Easily Confused. I like to show my Love by Smashing people in the face with a big Hammer.
Ravnik Choke-Hold 1721	Posted - 2012.10.17 13:15:00 - [34] - Quote How about a competition to see who can get abused the most in local after ganking someone? I think it would be good for giggles You lose it here, you're in a world of hurt....-á
Hakaru Ishiwara Republic Military School Minmatar Republic 352	Posted - 2012.10.17 13:34:00 - [35] - Quote Regardless whether the OP is trolling or serious, I'd like to see a tourney that: 1) doesn't cost upwards of $300 to participate. 2) accounts for major holiday disruption in a primary subscriber locale. +++++++ I have never shed a tear for a fellow EVE player until now. Mark GÇ£SeleeneGÇ¥ Heard's Blog Honoring Sean "Vile Rat" Smith.
Smiknight The Plebian Republic 17	Posted - 2012.10.17 14:06:00 - [36] - Quote What, afraid you can't make that Kessel run in 12 parsecs? Seriously though, I thought all activities in Eve were, by definition, PvP? I am what you refer to as a Carebear...I care very much about the future New Eden and Eve and couldn't bear the Chicken Littles destroying that.
Lady Ayeipsia Red Federation RvB - RED Federation 370	Posted - 2012.10.17 14:12:00 - [37] - Quote Hakaru Ishiwara wrote: Regardless whether the OP is trolling or serious, I'd like to see a tourney that: 1) doesn't cost upwards of $300 to participate. 2) accounts for major holiday disruption in a primary subscriber locale. How can you accomplish #2? Brits are a primary subscriber locale, but they have a bank holiday every week! As for 1, you need some method of preventing everyone from joining. Plexes are actually a smart idea. Some groups will buy plex with isk, but far more will say screw it, pool resources and buy the plex outright. CCP makes money and could seed the olex back to the market, reducing plex prices. Or they could just use the cash to help cover their end of the tourney such as commentators, setup, reinforced node for the tourney, etc. Just because ownage is putting up the prize money doesn't mean.they are paying all expenses. Both groups have to invest some money in the hopes of drawing in new customers. (ownage is hoping more viewers from eve start watching other events, increasing their viewer pool, and ccp is hoping other gamers who watch become interested in eve.)
War Kitten Panda McLegion 1331	Posted - 2012.10.17 14:30:00 - [38] - Quote What? No ship spinning tourney idea? I am disappoint. I find that without a good mob to provide one for them, most people would have no mentality at all.
Shederov Blood Wrecketeers 54	Posted - 2012.10.17 14:37:00 - [39] - Quote No .01 ISKing competition either? Or is that too much hardcore pvp for you?
Doddy Excidium. Executive Outcomes 306	Posted - 2012.10.17 14:57:00 - [40] - Quote Swarm Of Bees wrote: [list] Fastest probing down of a group of anomalies - Could be legit, mostly trained skills but some player technique involved Not much technique involved in on board scanner -> scan.
Schalac Apocalypse Reign 92	Posted - 2012.10.17 17:01:00 - [41] - Quote Quote: Fastest probing down of a group of anomalies This could be done scavenger hunt style. Place random ships around the solar system with a specific mod equipped or item in the cargo. The prober would have to probe out the ship fly to it and scan it then move onto the next one and repeat. Have like 4-6 ships and when they get back to the rally point they have to name the item that was equipped or in cargo to win the prize. If they don't name them all then the next person gets his chance to. That could be kinda fun.
Val'Dore PlanetCorp InterStellar 37	Posted - 2012.10.17 17:52:00 - [42] - Quote I like the idea of a transgalactic noobship race.
Baroness Vulna Solenus Directive Rieos Coalition 31	Posted - 2012.10.17 17:52:00 - [43] - Quote My god, CCP is going out of their way after keeping this game fun for years in making a tournament like this. This is a big risk for them but i think it will pay off and players will like it. So why all the haters? Why can't CCP come up with a tourny like this for a game they gave to us for all these years? If you think the tourny sucks then start your own tourny, you fork over all the effort the risk the time and money and you make an event......what? oh you dont want to.....then just show some respect to those who can and do.
Alcmeme Momentary Lapse of Reason. STR8NGE BREW 1	Posted - 2012.10.17 18:36:00 - [44] - Quote Lady Ayeipsia wrote: Nostradamouse Riraille wrote: Tiberious Thessalonia wrote: I can think of nothing I would rather watch less than a couple of people in hulks mining a belt. They're fun to watch... When you gank them... You lack imagination. Try miner bowling. Using 100mwd tengu/loki, who can displace the most miners and send a miner tge furthest in one bump? Miner bowling! I propose a tournament to bump capships out of POSses. I am sure it would look something like this
Arch Stanton's Neighbour Forceful Resource Acquisition Inc 28	Posted - 2012.10.17 23:29:00 - [45] - Quote Swarm Of Bees wrote: Fastest salvage of a field of wrecks - 100% based on trained skills Madam, allow me to illustrate. When clearing a field with a Noctis first and foremost the pilot must be a good multitasker to keep all his salvagers busy the whole time. He must simultaneously: loot wrecks that are close, select another wreck and activate salvagers on it when the last is done, then target another wreck, wait for the tractor to deactivate from the previously salvaged wreck then activate it on the newly acquired target. Also there are other strategies to consider: move around following the wrecks or stay stil? Moving around is more effort because you have to manually target on space the wrecks that are being left behind not letting them get out of range. When those wrecks are in multiple clusters, at which point to start moving towards the new one? Also, how fast to burn? Burning too fast lengthens the tractoring time of the wrecks being left behind, OTOH shortens that of the ones being approached so it is a trade off as to the optimal moment to start burning off and how fast. Standing still also allows for another advanced tactic: manually deactivating the tractors on wrecks that have already 'arrived' so another one can be tractored immediatelly. This is important when pulling multiple wrecks that are far away to avoid the salvagers sitting idle with no close wrecks while all tractors are busy. Finally, if using the above strategy, the player must consider how many tractors and salvagers to fit. If he expects most wrecks to be close 5 salvagers would be a good idea, otherwise 5 tractors might be best. An auto targeter, to increase the maximum allowed number of targets, is also useful to reduce pilot load because more wrecks can be targeted and the job of reactivating tractors becomes easier. Finally, there's the decision of fitting for salvage or cargo, the former potentially wasting time with extra trips to drop off the cargo. So you see, that is the depth of the profession of the salvager. I believe it is clear how it could be a competitive event and how the outcome would depend on player skill, not character skill. Similar narratives can be made for the other competitions as well.
Lady Spank Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED 2819	Posted - 2012.10.17 23:52:00 - [46] - Quote If you think that requires effort then there's no hope for you. (a¦á_a¦â) ~ (my spaceblog) http://bit.ly/RB6X4C ~ (a¦á_a¦â)

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